Re: [talk-au] DEA Hotspots map - no attribution?

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Thanks fellas!

You're not wrong it's hard to see, especially when said little icon is
sitting over pale grey land!

On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 at 15:46, Phil Wyatt  wrote:

>
>
> Probably want to change the standard letter to point out that the
> attribution should not be behind a button – needs to be in full view.
>

Is that a requirement for our attribution, Phil?

So we should contact them about it?

Thanks

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Re: [talk-au] DEA Hotspots map - no attribution?

[Phil Wyatt]

Bottom left corner behind some symbol that you need to click on…and you can 
barely see!

 



 

This is what I put in my standard letter (including the code required)

 

Probably want to change the standard letter to point out that the attribution 
should not be behind a button – needs to be in full view.

 

Cheers - Phil

 

From: Graeme Fitzpatrick  
Sent: Monday, 30 December 2019 4:35 PM
To: OSM-Au 
Subject: [talk-au] DEA Hotspots map - no attribution?

 

Hi

 

Just saw the new DEA / GA hotspots map for the first time.

 

One of the map layers you can choose is OSM, but it doesn't appear to have any 
attribution on it?

 

Could somebody please check & confirm?




Thanks

 

Graeme

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Re: [talk-au] DEA Hotspots map - no attribution?

[Alex (Maxious) Sadleir]

Hi Graeme,

There is a little (i) information icon next to the scale in the bottom left
corner that can be clicked for Attributions but it's hard to see because of
the color scheme when you switch the base map to OSM.


On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 4:36 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> Just saw the new DEA / GA hotspots map for the first time.
>
> One of the map layers you can choose is OSM, but it doesn't appear to have
> any attribution on it?
>
> Could somebody please check & confirm?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
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[talk-au] DEA Hotspots map - no attribution?

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Hi

Just saw the new DEA / GA hotspots map for the first time.

One of the map layers you can choose is OSM, but it doesn't appear to have
any attribution on it?

Could somebody please check & confirm?

Thanks

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Re: [talk-au] parking and bike lane

[Andrew Harvey]

The default for non-highways roads is bicycle=yes so even without any cycle
tags the router should still take you though it, but that's a routing
decision.

Omitting bicycle infrastructure tags from the roundabout helps let you know
that you need to merge with traffic to go though the roundabout.

On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 at 08:04, Sebastian S.  wrote:

> I agree that if there is nothing marked, however my question was rather
> from a continuity point of view.
> The roads into and out of the round about have cycle lanes. The cyclist
> needs to merge with the road traffic to pass through.
> Should the roundabout have cycle=designated or yes to ensure routing goes
> through it?
>
>
> On 30 December 2019 6:56:31 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey <
> andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If there's nothing marked on the road in the roundabout, then you can
>> just omit the cycle lane tag from the roundabout.
>>
>> On Sun., 29 Dec. 2019, 2:21 pm Graeme Fitzpatrick, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Graeme
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 at 16:52, David Wales 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I prefer to use separate ways for separate foot paths.

>>>
>>> As do I.
>>>
>>>
 On 28 December 2019 3:02:30 pm AEDT, Sebastian Spiess <
 mapp...@consebt.de> wrote:
>
>
> I do welcome comments. In particular regarding how to go about the
> cycle way and the roundabout.
>

>>> Looks OK to me, but I've also wondered how bike lanes are supposed to
>>> work through roundabouts, when there's nothing marked on the road?
>>>
>>>   Thanks
>>>
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Re: [talk-au] Question re tagging unpaved vs paved roads

[Bob Cameron]

Okay thanks all.

Surprisingly the Snowy Mountains Hwy between Dalgety and (almost) 
Bombala NSW had 3 unpaved sections near the wind turbine ridge. It has 
all been fully paved through for more than 3 years.


As I drive I use an OSM based map set on my Garmin GPS to route sealed 
only, so I can discover these map errors. (Garmin doesn't display paved 
vs not)


Bob

On 30/12/19 11:14 am, cleary wrote:

If you just delete the tag, someone might interpret it as an accidental 
deletion.  A changed tag is clearly a deliberate decision based on new 
information.




On Sun, 29 Dec 2019, at 8:52 AM, Bob Cameron wrote:

Hi

The tagging guidelines don't quite seem to over this. I'd like to do it
correctly.

When a road is unpaved we use the surface=unpaved tag, the default (no
tag) being paved.

When an unpaved road is (roadwork) paved, should the tag be deleted or
changed to paved?

Thanks


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Re: [talk-au] Question re tagging unpaved vs paved roads

[cleary]

If you just delete the tag, someone might interpret it as an accidental 
deletion.  A changed tag is clearly a deliberate decision based on new 
information.




On Sun, 29 Dec 2019, at 8:52 AM, Bob Cameron wrote:
> Hi
> 
> The tagging guidelines don't quite seem to over this. I'd like to do it 
> correctly.
> 
> When a road is unpaved we use the surface=unpaved tag, the default (no 
> tag) being paved.
> 
> When an unpaved road is (roadwork) paved, should the tag be deleted or 
> changed to paved?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [talk-au] Question re tagging unpaved vs paved roads

[Warin]

On 29/12/19 19:52, Bob Cameron wrote:

Hi

The tagging guidelines don't quite seem to over this. I'd like to do 
it correctly.


When a road is unpaved we use the surface=unpaved tag, the default (no 
tag) being paved.


When an unpaved road is (roadwork) paved, should the tag be deleted or 
changed to paved?


Changed to 'paved', not deleted. And only the section that is paved 
should be tagged paved, not the other parts that remain unpaved.


If the paving is going to be removed .. then I simply don't bother.
If the paving is going to be unmaintained and deteriorate .. then I'd 
still mark it paved .. and later on unpaved.




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Re: [talk-au] parking and bike lane

[Sebastian S.]

I agree that if there is nothing marked, however my question was rather from a 
continuity point of view.
The roads into and out of the round about have cycle lanes. The cyclist needs 
to merge with the road traffic to pass through.
Should the roundabout have cycle=designated or yes to ensure routing goes 
through it?


On 30 December 2019 6:56:31 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey  
wrote:
>If there's nothing marked on the road in the roundabout, then you can
>just
>omit the cycle lane tag from the roundabout.
>
>On Sun., 29 Dec. 2019, 2:21 pm Graeme Fitzpatrick,
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Graeme
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 at 16:52, David Wales 
>wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer to use separate ways for separate foot paths.
>>>
>>
>> As do I.
>>
>>
>>> On 28 December 2019 3:02:30 pm AEDT, Sebastian Spiess
>
>>> wrote:


 I do welcome comments. In particular regarding how to go about the
>cycle
 way and the roundabout.

>>>
>> Looks OK to me, but I've also wondered how bike lanes are supposed to
>work
>> through roundabouts, when there's nothing marked on the road?
>>
>>   Thanks
>>
>> Graeme
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Re: [talk-au] parking and bike lane

[Andrew Harvey]

If there's nothing marked on the road in the roundabout, then you can just
omit the cycle lane tag from the roundabout.

On Sun., 29 Dec. 2019, 2:21 pm Graeme Fitzpatrick, 
wrote:

>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 at 16:52, David Wales  wrote:
>
>> I prefer to use separate ways for separate foot paths.
>>
>
> As do I.
>
>
>> On 28 December 2019 3:02:30 pm AEDT, Sebastian Spiess 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I do welcome comments. In particular regarding how to go about the cycle
>>> way and the roundabout.
>>>
>>
> Looks OK to me, but I've also wondered how bike lanes are supposed to work
> through roundabouts, when there's nothing marked on the road?
>
>   Thanks
>
> Graeme
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Re: [talk-au] Phone number updates

[Phil Wyatt]

Hi David,

 

It may be for someone more skilled than me  however there are lots of 
combinations that need to be taken into account

 

Those with no area codes

Those with area codes in ()

Those with area codes but no international code

Those with international code but no + sign at the start

Spaces or dashes between numbers or no spaces

Grouping of numbers +61 x  

1300/1800 numbers that need to be tagged phone:AU

Those without enough numbers

Inconsistent area codes in some areas (NSW/VIC border areas)

 

…to mention just a few that I have found…

 

Cheers – Phil

 

From: David Wales  
Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2019 9:34 PM
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Phone number updates

 

I did a few.

Surely this would be a prime target for an automated edit?

Regards,
David Wales

On 29/12/19 2:22 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:




 

On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 at 12:36, Phil Wyatt mailto:p...@wyatt-family.com> > wrote:

feel free to join me if you want some mind numbing entertainment for an hour or 
two.

 

It is certainly that! :-)

 

WA and Tasmania already completed

 

As is Qld :-)

 

 Thanks

 

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Re: [talk-au] Phone number updates

[David Wales]

I did a few.

Surely this would be a prime target for an automated edit?

Regards,
David Wales

On 29/12/19 2:22 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 at 12:36, Phil Wyatt  > wrote:
>
> feel free to join me if you want some mind numbing entertainment
> for an hour or two.
>
>
> It is certainly that! :-)
>  
>
> WA and Tasmania already completed
>
>
> As is Qld :-)
>
>  Thanks
>
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[talk-au] Question re tagging unpaved vs paved roads

[Bob Cameron]

Hi

The tagging guidelines don't quite seem to over this. I'd like to do it 
correctly.


When a road is unpaved we use the surface=unpaved tag, the default (no 
tag) being paved.


When an unpaved road is (roadwork) paved, should the tag be deleted or 
changed to paved?


Thanks


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