Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-25 Thread Tom Brennan

Here's the basics:
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1HOH

I nicked the starting point off the US Trail Access Project page and 
adapted it a bit.


Hard to show up all the different things that are useful in tagging a 
track as there's only so many styles available!


cheers
Tom

Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning
Bushwalking? try http://bushwalkingnsw.com

On 26/02/2024 12:01 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

It would be interesting to see what Strava shows, so yes, please, Tom, I'd
like to see the OT link.

Thanks

Graeme


On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 22:22, Tom Brennan  wrote:


I thought I'd see if the tagging details in the US Trail Access Project
link might be useful for Australia.

I tagged all of the tracks out at Kanangra - mainly because it has a mix
of tracks, but few enough that it's easy to cover them all - with
operator=NPWS or informal as appropriate. Basically the maintained ones
with operator tags, others as informal.

I know Gaia (for example) renders informal tracks with less priority
than formal tracks, though I don't know exactly the combinations of tags
they are focussing on. I believe they refresh their tiles every 2-3
weeks so I'll have a look again in a few weeks.

If you're into mapping bush tracks, I hacked an Overpass Turbo query
which does a pretty good job of visualising some of the useful tags (and
where tags are missing). Happy to share.

cheers
Tom

Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning
Bushwalking? try http://bushwalkingnsw.com

On 24/02/2024 8:10 am, Mark Pulley wrote:

I had suggested changing to access=no, or adding a disused: prefix

(mainly to keep NPWS happy), but looking at this page, the recommendation
seems to be to keep the tags as they are now (access=discouraged,
informal=yes).


Mark P.


On 23 Feb 2024, at 7:29 pm, Tom Brennan  wrote:

Given this thread is still going, the US has a useful collaboration

resource between mappers and land managers


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/Trail_Access_Project

cheers
Tom




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Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
It would be interesting to see what Strava shows, so yes, please, Tom, I'd
like to see the OT link.

Thanks

Graeme


On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 at 22:22, Tom Brennan  wrote:

> I thought I'd see if the tagging details in the US Trail Access Project
> link might be useful for Australia.
>
> I tagged all of the tracks out at Kanangra - mainly because it has a mix
> of tracks, but few enough that it's easy to cover them all - with
> operator=NPWS or informal as appropriate. Basically the maintained ones
> with operator tags, others as informal.
>
> I know Gaia (for example) renders informal tracks with less priority
> than formal tracks, though I don't know exactly the combinations of tags
> they are focussing on. I believe they refresh their tiles every 2-3
> weeks so I'll have a look again in a few weeks.
>
> If you're into mapping bush tracks, I hacked an Overpass Turbo query
> which does a pretty good job of visualising some of the useful tags (and
> where tags are missing). Happy to share.
>
> cheers
> Tom
> 
> Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning
> Bushwalking? try http://bushwalkingnsw.com
>
> On 24/02/2024 8:10 am, Mark Pulley wrote:
> > I had suggested changing to access=no, or adding a disused: prefix
> (mainly to keep NPWS happy), but looking at this page, the recommendation
> seems to be to keep the tags as they are now (access=discouraged,
> informal=yes).
> >
> > Mark P.
> >
> >> On 23 Feb 2024, at 7:29 pm, Tom Brennan  wrote:
> >>
> >> Given this thread is still going, the US has a useful collaboration
> resource between mappers and land managers
> >>
> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/Trail_Access_Project
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> Tom
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-25 Thread Tom Brennan
I thought I'd see if the tagging details in the US Trail Access Project 
link might be useful for Australia.


I tagged all of the tracks out at Kanangra - mainly because it has a mix 
of tracks, but few enough that it's easy to cover them all - with 
operator=NPWS or informal as appropriate. Basically the maintained ones 
with operator tags, others as informal.


I know Gaia (for example) renders informal tracks with less priority 
than formal tracks, though I don't know exactly the combinations of tags 
they are focussing on. I believe they refresh their tiles every 2-3 
weeks so I'll have a look again in a few weeks.


If you're into mapping bush tracks, I hacked an Overpass Turbo query 
which does a pretty good job of visualising some of the useful tags (and 
where tags are missing). Happy to share.


cheers
Tom

Canyoning? try http://ozultimate.com/canyoning
Bushwalking? try http://bushwalkingnsw.com

On 24/02/2024 8:10 am, Mark Pulley wrote:

I had suggested changing to access=no, or adding a disused: prefix (mainly to 
keep NPWS happy), but looking at this page, the recommendation seems to be to 
keep the tags as they are now (access=discouraged, informal=yes).

Mark P.


On 23 Feb 2024, at 7:29 pm, Tom Brennan  wrote:

Given this thread is still going, the US has a useful collaboration resource 
between mappers and land managers

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/Trail_Access_Project

cheers
Tom




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