Re: [talk-au] M11 naming
Thanks for the research Dian, I was hoping that it would be named "TISM Mordialloc Freeway" however sadly alas. This is Serious Mum (TISM) sang about the construction of the road in their 1988 song ‘Mordialloc Road Duplicator’, which appeared on their album Great Truckin’ Songs of the Renaissance and David Limbrick, MP, introduced a bill to the Victorian State Parliament to rename the Mordialloc Freeway to the TISM Mordialloc Freeway. *"If you’re behind a truck or freighter* *Say, “Thank god for the Mordialloc Road duplicator”* http://www.noise11.com/news/victorian-state-mp-introduces-bill-to-name-freeway-after-tism-20191129 On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 21:56, Dian Ågesson wrote: > Hey all > > > Having driven the road today from Dingley to Thompsons Road I can confirm > two things. > > > 1) The freeway is particularly boring and unremarkable. Not worth the trip > unless it is actually the quickest route to take. > > 2) The signs all read Mornington Peninsula Freeway; both on the turns to > get onto the road and on the distance signs while driving on the road > itself. > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dingley_Bypass_%26_Mornington_Peninsula_Freeway.jpg > > It also has a *huge *median, so they are obviously expect to extend it to > three lanes at some point. > > > Dian > > > On 2021-11-26 15:53, Brendan Barnes wrote: > > Unfortunately the Major Road Projects Victoria website is not compatible > with the ODbL, as "no part may be reproduced or used for any commercial > purposes whatsoever". The press release on their site has no other > licencing information, so we should treat it as copyright and not use it as > a source for OSM data. > > The Engage Victoria website is CC BY 4.0 (State of Victoria (Department of > Premier and Cabinet)), but unfortunately we don't have a waiver for. > > To ensure data in our database is sourced correctly, we need to collect > street naming from on-the-ground surveys, compatible imagery providers, and > any other compatible licence sources. > > > On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 00:07, Adam Horan wrote: > > The existing southern end of this road which was known through > construction as 'Peninsula Link', and is mapped as such now, should > probably also be called 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway.' > See relation > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12622680#map=12/-38.1791/145.1193 > and ways within. > Here is a VicRoads doc referring to upgrades on the southern part, and > calling it Mornington Peninsula Freeway https://engage.vic.gov.au/mpfu > However roadsigns along the road seem to call it Peninsula Link still. > > re the Mordialloc end - the project page is clear that *"The 9km long > Mordialloc Freeway connects the Mornington Peninsula Freeway in Aspendale > Gardens to the Dingley Bypass in Dingley Village..."* > https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/projects/mordialloc-freeway > The press release for opening it calls it Mordialloc Freeway > https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/news/mordialloc-freeway-open > > > On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 22:51, Brendan Barnes wrote: > > Nice work from the community surveying and mapping so quickly since early > opening. > > There's no KartaView imagery of the extension, and Mapillary isn't loading > for me right now, so it's hard to weigh-in as an armchair mapper. > > On sampling some of the ways (example > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/913115111), both name=* and > official_name=* appear to be sourced correctly and follow the "map what's > on the ground" good practice. > > My only suggestion would be alt_name=* being the same as official_name=* > is probably redundant. > > > On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 21:11, Dian Ågesson wrote: > > Hello, > > There has been a flurry of activity in South-East Melbourne surrounding > the opening of the brand new M11 extension. Unfortunately, it seems as > though sources vary on the name of this new section of road. > > The construction has been heavily advertised and promoted as the > 'Mordialloc Freeway'. That is the name of the road on Vicnames as well. > > Every roadsign I've seen in the area though uses 'Mornington Peninsula > Freeway'. Wikipedia (currently) uses that name as well, but the editors > there seem unsure what to call it as well. > > Thoughts? > > Dian > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >
Re: [talk-au] M11 naming
Hey all Having driven the road today from Dingley to Thompsons Road I can confirm two things. 1) The freeway is particularly boring and unremarkable. Not worth the trip unless it is actually the quickest route to take. 2) The signs all read Mornington Peninsula Freeway; both on the turns to get onto the road and on the distance signs while driving on the road itself. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dingley_Bypass_%26_Mornington_Peninsula_Freeway.jpg It also has a _huge _median, so they are obviously expect to extend it to three lanes at some point. Dian On 2021-11-26 15:53, Brendan Barnes wrote: Unfortunately the Major Road Projects Victoria website is not compatible with the ODbL, as "no part may be reproduced or used for any commercial purposes whatsoever". The press release on their site has no other licencing information, so we should treat it as copyright and not use it as a source for OSM data. The Engage Victoria website is CC BY 4.0 (State of Victoria (Department of Premier and Cabinet)), but unfortunately we don't have a waiver for. To ensure data in our database is sourced correctly, we need to collect street naming from on-the-ground surveys, compatible imagery providers, and any other compatible licence sources. On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 00:07, Adam Horan wrote: The existing southern end of this road which was known through construction as 'Peninsula Link', and is mapped as such now, should probably also be called 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway.' See relation https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12622680#map=12/-38.1791/145.1193 and ways within. Here is a VicRoads doc referring to upgrades on the southern part, and calling it Mornington Peninsula Freeway https://engage.vic.gov.au/mpfu However roadsigns along the road seem to call it Peninsula Link still. re the Mordialloc end - the project page is clear that _"The 9km long Mordialloc Freeway connects the Mornington Peninsula Freeway in Aspendale Gardens to the Dingley Bypass in Dingley Village..."_ https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/projects/mordialloc-freeway The press release for opening it calls it Mordialloc Freeway https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/news/mordialloc-freeway-open On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 22:51, Brendan Barnes wrote: Nice work from the community surveying and mapping so quickly since early opening. There's no KartaView imagery of the extension, and Mapillary isn't loading for me right now, so it's hard to weigh-in as an armchair mapper. On sampling some of the ways (example https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/913115111), both name=* and official_name=* appear to be sourced correctly and follow the "map what's on the ground" good practice. My only suggestion would be alt_name=* being the same as official_name=* is probably redundant. On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 21:11, Dian Ågesson wrote: Hello, There has been a flurry of activity in South-East Melbourne surrounding the opening of the brand new M11 extension. Unfortunately, it seems as though sources vary on the name of this new section of road. The construction has been heavily advertised and promoted as the 'Mordialloc Freeway'. That is the name of the road on Vicnames as well. Every roadsign I've seen in the area though uses 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway'. Wikipedia (currently) uses that name as well, but the editors there seem unsure what to call it as well. Thoughts? Dian ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] M11 naming
Hey Adam, it was at the corner of Lower Dandenong and also Centre Dandenong; they both said Mornington Peninsula Fwy. I saw it again this morning on my way through the area, and didn't take a photo… can try and do so again later today if needed? dian On 2021-11-26 16:54, Adam Horan wrote: @Dian where were the roadsigns that you saw? Maybe someone can get out and take some pictures. From VicNames it seems that south of Springvale Road it's called Mornington Peninsula Freeway, but north of Springvale it's Mordialloc Freeway. Continue further south and it's Peninsula Link, and then further it's back to Mornington Peninsula Freeway. I'm sure the signs on Peninsula Link still say that, but I have seen newer/adjusted signs in this northern area which refer to MPF. Unfortunately I can't remember exactly where I saw them... The only consistent thing is the M11 numbering :) On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 15:56, Brendan Barnes wrote: Unfortunately the Major Road Projects Victoria website is not compatible with the ODbL, as "no part may be reproduced or used for any commercial purposes whatsoever". The press release on their site has no other licencing information, so we should treat it as copyright and not use it as a source for OSM data. The Engage Victoria website is CC BY 4.0 (State of Victoria (Department of Premier and Cabinet)), but unfortunately we don't have a waiver for. To ensure data in our database is sourced correctly, we need to collect street naming from on-the-ground surveys, compatible imagery providers, and any other compatible licence sources. On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 00:07, Adam Horan wrote: The existing southern end of this road which was known through construction as 'Peninsula Link', and is mapped as such now, should probably also be called 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway.' See relation https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12622680#map=12/-38.1791/145.1193 and ways within. Here is a VicRoads doc referring to upgrades on the southern part, and calling it Mornington Peninsula Freeway https://engage.vic.gov.au/mpfu However roadsigns along the road seem to call it Peninsula Link still. re the Mordialloc end - the project page is clear that _"The 9km long Mordialloc Freeway connects the Mornington Peninsula Freeway in Aspendale Gardens to the Dingley Bypass in Dingley Village..."_ https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/projects/mordialloc-freeway The press release for opening it calls it Mordialloc Freeway https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/news/mordialloc-freeway-open On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 22:51, Brendan Barnes wrote: Nice work from the community surveying and mapping so quickly since early opening. There's no KartaView imagery of the extension, and Mapillary isn't loading for me right now, so it's hard to weigh-in as an armchair mapper. On sampling some of the ways (example https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/913115111), both name=* and official_name=* appear to be sourced correctly and follow the "map what's on the ground" good practice. My only suggestion would be alt_name=* being the same as official_name=* is probably redundant. On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 21:11, Dian Ågesson wrote: Hello, There has been a flurry of activity in South-East Melbourne surrounding the opening of the brand new M11 extension. Unfortunately, it seems as though sources vary on the name of this new section of road. The construction has been heavily advertised and promoted as the 'Mordialloc Freeway'. That is the name of the road on Vicnames as well. Every roadsign I've seen in the area though uses 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway'. Wikipedia (currently) uses that name as well, but the editors there seem unsure what to call it as well. Thoughts? Dian ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] M11 naming
Hey Adam, I've seen the signs at both Lower and Centre Dandenong Roads. Both said Morning Peninsula Fwy. I drove past one this morning but didn't take a picture, but I can swing past again if necessary. Dian On 2021-11-26 16:54, Adam Horan wrote: @Dian where were the roadsigns that you saw? Maybe someone can get out and take some pictures. From VicNames it seems that south of Springvale Road it's called Mornington Peninsula Freeway, but north of Springvale it's Mordialloc Freeway. Continue further south and it's Peninsula Link, and then further it's back to Mornington Peninsula Freeway. I'm sure the signs on Peninsula Link still say that, but I have seen newer/adjusted signs in this northern area which refer to MPF. Unfortunately I can't remember exactly where I saw them... The only consistent thing is the M11 numbering :) On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 15:56, Brendan Barnes wrote: Unfortunately the Major Road Projects Victoria website is not compatible with the ODbL, as "no part may be reproduced or used for any commercial purposes whatsoever". The press release on their site has no other licencing information, so we should treat it as copyright and not use it as a source for OSM data. The Engage Victoria website is CC BY 4.0 (State of Victoria (Department of Premier and Cabinet)), but unfortunately we don't have a waiver for. To ensure data in our database is sourced correctly, we need to collect street naming from on-the-ground surveys, compatible imagery providers, and any other compatible licence sources. On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 00:07, Adam Horan wrote: The existing southern end of this road which was known through construction as 'Peninsula Link', and is mapped as such now, should probably also be called 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway.' See relation https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12622680#map=12/-38.1791/145.1193 and ways within. Here is a VicRoads doc referring to upgrades on the southern part, and calling it Mornington Peninsula Freeway https://engage.vic.gov.au/mpfu However roadsigns along the road seem to call it Peninsula Link still. re the Mordialloc end - the project page is clear that _"The 9km long Mordialloc Freeway connects the Mornington Peninsula Freeway in Aspendale Gardens to the Dingley Bypass in Dingley Village..."_ https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/projects/mordialloc-freeway The press release for opening it calls it Mordialloc Freeway https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/news/mordialloc-freeway-open On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 22:51, Brendan Barnes wrote: Nice work from the community surveying and mapping so quickly since early opening. There's no KartaView imagery of the extension, and Mapillary isn't loading for me right now, so it's hard to weigh-in as an armchair mapper. On sampling some of the ways (example https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/913115111), both name=* and official_name=* appear to be sourced correctly and follow the "map what's on the ground" good practice. My only suggestion would be alt_name=* being the same as official_name=* is probably redundant. On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 21:11, Dian Ågesson wrote: Hello, There has been a flurry of activity in South-East Melbourne surrounding the opening of the brand new M11 extension. Unfortunately, it seems as though sources vary on the name of this new section of road. The construction has been heavily advertised and promoted as the 'Mordialloc Freeway'. That is the name of the road on Vicnames as well. Every roadsign I've seen in the area though uses 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway'. Wikipedia (currently) uses that name as well, but the editors there seem unsure what to call it as well. Thoughts? Dian ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] M11 naming
@Dian where were the roadsigns that you saw? Maybe someone can get out and take some pictures. >From VicNames it seems that south of Springvale Road it's called Mornington Peninsula Freeway, but north of Springvale it's Mordialloc Freeway. Continue further south and it's Peninsula Link, and then further it's back to Mornington Peninsula Freeway. I'm sure the signs on Peninsula Link still say that, but I have seen newer/adjusted signs in this northern area which refer to MPF. Unfortunately I can't remember exactly where I saw them... The only consistent thing is the M11 numbering :) On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 15:56, Brendan Barnes wrote: > Unfortunately the Major Road Projects Victoria website is not compatible > with the ODbL, as "no part may be reproduced or used for any commercial > purposes whatsoever". The press release on their site has no other > licencing information, so we should treat it as copyright and not use it as > a source for OSM data. > > The Engage Victoria website is CC BY 4.0 (State of Victoria (Department of > Premier and Cabinet)), but unfortunately we don't have a waiver for. > > To ensure data in our database is sourced correctly, we need to collect > street naming from on-the-ground surveys, compatible imagery providers, and > any other compatible licence sources. > > > On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 00:07, Adam Horan wrote: > >> The existing southern end of this road which was known through >> construction as 'Peninsula Link', and is mapped as such now, should >> probably also be called 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway.' >> See relation >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12622680#map=12/-38.1791/145.1193 >> and ways within. >> Here is a VicRoads doc referring to upgrades on the southern part, and >> calling it Mornington Peninsula Freeway https://engage.vic.gov.au/mpfu >> However roadsigns along the road seem to call it Peninsula Link still. >> >> re the Mordialloc end - the project page is clear that *"The 9km long >> Mordialloc Freeway connects the Mornington Peninsula Freeway in Aspendale >> Gardens to the Dingley Bypass in Dingley Village..."* >> https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/projects/mordialloc-freeway >> The press release for opening it calls it Mordialloc Freeway >> https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/news/mordialloc-freeway-open >> >> >> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 22:51, Brendan Barnes >> wrote: >> >>> Nice work from the community surveying and mapping so quickly since >>> early opening. >>> >>> There's no KartaView imagery of the extension, and Mapillary isn't >>> loading for me right now, so it's hard to weigh-in as an armchair mapper. >>> >>> On sampling some of the ways (example >>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/913115111), both name=* and >>> official_name=* appear to be sourced correctly and follow the "map what's >>> on the ground" good practice. >>> >>> My only suggestion would be alt_name=* being the same as official_name=* >>> is probably redundant. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 21:11, Dian Ågesson wrote: >>> Hello, There has been a flurry of activity in South-East Melbourne surrounding the opening of the brand new M11 extension. Unfortunately, it seems as though sources vary on the name of this new section of road. The construction has been heavily advertised and promoted as the 'Mordialloc Freeway'. That is the name of the road on Vicnames as well. Every roadsign I've seen in the area though uses 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway'. Wikipedia (currently) uses that name as well, but the editors there seem unsure what to call it as well. Thoughts? Dian ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>> ___ >>> Talk-au mailing list >>> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>> >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] M11 naming
Unfortunately the Major Road Projects Victoria website is not compatible with the ODbL, as "no part may be reproduced or used for any commercial purposes whatsoever". The press release on their site has no other licencing information, so we should treat it as copyright and not use it as a source for OSM data. The Engage Victoria website is CC BY 4.0 (State of Victoria (Department of Premier and Cabinet)), but unfortunately we don't have a waiver for. To ensure data in our database is sourced correctly, we need to collect street naming from on-the-ground surveys, compatible imagery providers, and any other compatible licence sources. On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 00:07, Adam Horan wrote: > The existing southern end of this road which was known through > construction as 'Peninsula Link', and is mapped as such now, should > probably also be called 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway.' > See relation > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12622680#map=12/-38.1791/145.1193 > and ways within. > Here is a VicRoads doc referring to upgrades on the southern part, and > calling it Mornington Peninsula Freeway https://engage.vic.gov.au/mpfu > However roadsigns along the road seem to call it Peninsula Link still. > > re the Mordialloc end - the project page is clear that *"The 9km long > Mordialloc Freeway connects the Mornington Peninsula Freeway in Aspendale > Gardens to the Dingley Bypass in Dingley Village..."* > https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/projects/mordialloc-freeway > The press release for opening it calls it Mordialloc Freeway > https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/news/mordialloc-freeway-open > > > On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 22:51, Brendan Barnes wrote: > >> Nice work from the community surveying and mapping so quickly since early >> opening. >> >> There's no KartaView imagery of the extension, and Mapillary isn't >> loading for me right now, so it's hard to weigh-in as an armchair mapper. >> >> On sampling some of the ways (example >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/913115111), both name=* and >> official_name=* appear to be sourced correctly and follow the "map what's >> on the ground" good practice. >> >> My only suggestion would be alt_name=* being the same as official_name=* >> is probably redundant. >> >> >> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 21:11, Dian Ågesson wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> There has been a flurry of activity in South-East Melbourne surrounding >>> the opening of the brand new M11 extension. Unfortunately, it seems as >>> though sources vary on the name of this new section of road. >>> >>> The construction has been heavily advertised and promoted as the >>> 'Mordialloc Freeway'. That is the name of the road on Vicnames as well. >>> >>> Every roadsign I've seen in the area though uses 'Mornington Peninsula >>> Freeway'. Wikipedia (currently) uses that name as well, but the editors >>> there seem unsure what to call it as well. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Dian >>> ___ >>> Talk-au mailing list >>> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>> >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] M11 naming
The existing southern end of this road which was known through construction as 'Peninsula Link', and is mapped as such now, should probably also be called 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway.' See relation https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12622680#map=12/-38.1791/145.1193 and ways within. Here is a VicRoads doc referring to upgrades on the southern part, and calling it Mornington Peninsula Freeway https://engage.vic.gov.au/mpfu However roadsigns along the road seem to call it Peninsula Link still. re the Mordialloc end - the project page is clear that *"The 9km long Mordialloc Freeway connects the Mornington Peninsula Freeway in Aspendale Gardens to the Dingley Bypass in Dingley Village..."* https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/projects/mordialloc-freeway The press release for opening it calls it Mordialloc Freeway https://roadprojects.vic.gov.au/news/mordialloc-freeway-open On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 22:51, Brendan Barnes wrote: > Nice work from the community surveying and mapping so quickly since early > opening. > > There's no KartaView imagery of the extension, and Mapillary isn't loading > for me right now, so it's hard to weigh-in as an armchair mapper. > > On sampling some of the ways (example > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/913115111), both name=* and > official_name=* appear to be sourced correctly and follow the "map what's > on the ground" good practice. > > My only suggestion would be alt_name=* being the same as official_name=* > is probably redundant. > > > On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 21:11, Dian Ågesson wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> There has been a flurry of activity in South-East Melbourne surrounding >> the opening of the brand new M11 extension. Unfortunately, it seems as >> though sources vary on the name of this new section of road. >> >> The construction has been heavily advertised and promoted as the >> 'Mordialloc Freeway'. That is the name of the road on Vicnames as well. >> >> Every roadsign I've seen in the area though uses 'Mornington Peninsula >> Freeway'. Wikipedia (currently) uses that name as well, but the editors >> there seem unsure what to call it as well. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Dian >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] M11 naming
Nice work from the community surveying and mapping so quickly since early opening. There's no KartaView imagery of the extension, and Mapillary isn't loading for me right now, so it's hard to weigh-in as an armchair mapper. On sampling some of the ways (example https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/913115111), both name=* and official_name=* appear to be sourced correctly and follow the "map what's on the ground" good practice. My only suggestion would be alt_name=* being the same as official_name=* is probably redundant. On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 21:11, Dian Ågesson wrote: > Hello, > > There has been a flurry of activity in South-East Melbourne surrounding > the opening of the brand new M11 extension. Unfortunately, it seems as > though sources vary on the name of this new section of road. > > The construction has been heavily advertised and promoted as the > 'Mordialloc Freeway'. That is the name of the road on Vicnames as well. > > Every roadsign I've seen in the area though uses 'Mornington Peninsula > Freeway'. Wikipedia (currently) uses that name as well, but the editors > there seem unsure what to call it as well. > > Thoughts? > > Dian > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] M11 naming
Hello, There has been a flurry of activity in South-East Melbourne surrounding the opening of the brand new M11 extension. Unfortunately, it seems as though sources vary on the name of this new section of road. The construction has been heavily advertised and promoted as the 'Mordialloc Freeway'. That is the name of the road on Vicnames as well. Every roadsign I've seen in the area though uses 'Mornington Peninsula Freeway'. Wikipedia (currently) uses that name as well, but the editors there seem unsure what to call it as well. Thoughts? Dian___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
