Re: [talk-au] OSMF elections

2010-11-28 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:48 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
 On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 15:12 -0800, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

 OSMF is a democratically elected body. Candidates welcome. I guess 2011's
 elections will take place at the start of July as usual.

 (Last year's election:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM10/Election_to_Board )

 Out of interest, how come only 3 names are shown as 'elected' on that
 page, but the foundation page lists 7 members?  Is the entire board
 required to stand down every year, before elections are held?

In 2010, OSMF transitioned from chair serves two year term and others
serve one-year terms, to 1/3 of board stands for election each
year.  Ulf, Mike and Andy chose to step down and not to run again.
Six new candidates stood and three were elected to the three
vacancies.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM09
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM08
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM07

FYI, and because I love ASCII-(ch)art, here is the history of the OSMF
board elections. (monospace font required.)

07|08|09|10|
 Y |- | Y |- | Steve Coast
 Y | Y | Y | - | Andy Robinson
 Y | Y | N | - | George James (Etienne)
 Y | Y | Y | - | Michael Collinson
 Y | Y | Y |- | Mikel Maron
 Y | - | - | - | Richard Fairhurst
 Y | - | - | - | Corey Burger
 - | Y | N | - | Nick Black
 - | Y | Y |- | Henk Hoff
 - | N | - | - | Grant Slater
 - | N | Y |- | Simone Cortesi
 - | N | - | - | Richard Weait
 - | - | Y | - | Ulf Möller
 - | - | N | - | Peter Miller
 - | - | N | - | Hurricane Coast (nee McEwen)
 - | - | - | Y | Emilie Laffray
 - | - | - | Y | Iván Sánchez Ortega
 - | - | - | Y | Oliver Kühn
 - | - | - | N | Lars Franke
 - | - | - | N | Thea Clay
 - | - | - | N | Kate Chapman

[ ... ]
 Interestingly, I notice the number of foundation members is dropping
 over previous years, 2009 numbers were over 250, where 2010 numbers were
 only 130.  Has any effort been made to find out why so many former
 members decided not to rejoin?

Those numbers surprise me.  Where did you get them?  145 valid votes
were cast for the most recent election, so your 130 does not match
the election results found here.

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2010-August/000975.html

I do remember the AGM10 report from the membership secretary
mentioning the number of paid members (but I don't recall the number).
 Perhaps I can find that report.

[ ... ]

 Do the various working
 groups publish their own minutes or decisions, [ ... ]

Steve Bennett showed us the location of the minutes.

http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes

There is also an unofficial summary of Board and Working Group
activities that is published periodically at
http://blog.osmfoundation.org/

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Re: [talk-au] OSMF elections

2010-11-28 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 08:30 -0500, Richard Weait wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:48 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
  On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 15:12 -0800, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
 
 In 2010, OSMF transitioned from chair serves two year term and others
 serve one-year terms, to 1/3 of board stands for election each
 year.

Thanks for the explanation, someone else provided the simple two-year
explanation off-list, which makes the elections make more sense.

  Interestingly, I notice the number of foundation members is dropping
  over previous years, 2009 numbers were over 250, where 2010 numbers were
  only 130.  Has any effort been made to find out why so many former
  members decided not to rejoin?
 
 Those numbers surprise me.  Where did you get them?  145 valid votes
 were cast for the most recent election, so your 130 does not match
 the election results found here.

I found the numbers in the minutes, but from a quick look through now I
cant remember exactly which ones.  Unfortunately a lot of them dont have
membership reports, and those that do often dont state the number of
members.  Im not sure what the association laws are like in the UK, but
from my experience of minuting meetings (and openness of documents and
reports) under Australian law, these wouldnt come close to muster.  Im
happy enough to be corrected if youre actually able to find minutes
somewhere that do have the relevant numbers from points in time.

David


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Re: [talk-au] OSMF elections

2010-11-28 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:01 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 08:30 -0500, Richard Weait wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:48 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:

[ ... ]

 Thanks for the explanation, someone else provided the simple two-year
 explanation off-list, which makes the elections make more sense.

No problem.  You planning to run in 2011?  Never too early to start
campaigning. ;-)

  Interestingly, I notice the number of foundation members is dropping
  over previous years, 2009 numbers were over 250, where 2010 numbers were
  only 130.  Has any effort been made to find out why so many former
  members decided not to rejoin?

 Those numbers surprise me.  Where did you get them?  145 valid votes
 were cast for the most recent election, so your 130 does not match
 the election results found here.

 I found the numbers in the minutes, but from a quick look through now I
 cant remember exactly which ones.

I'm not certain if membership numbers fall under must be reported,
may be reported, or may only be reported under specific privacy
guidelines.  I'll send a request to the board / membership secretary
and copy you.

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Re: [talk-au] OSMF elections

2010-11-28 Thread 80n
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:

 On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:48 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au
 wrote:
  On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 15:12 -0800, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
 
  OSMF is a democratically elected body. Candidates welcome. I guess
 2011's
  elections will take place at the start of July as usual.
 
  (Last year's election:
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM10/Election_to_Board )
 
  Out of interest, how come only 3 names are shown as 'elected' on that
  page, but the foundation page lists 7 members?  Is the entire board
  required to stand down every year, before elections are held?

 In 2010, OSMF transitioned from chair serves two year term and others
 serve one-year terms, to 1/3 of board stands for election each
 year.  Ulf, Mike and Andy chose to step down and not to run again.
 Six new candidates stood and three were elected to the three
 vacancies.


Hmmm, according to the articles of association The members of the Board to
retire shall be those who have been longest in office since their last
election or appointment.

So if I'm reading your table correctly then SteveC, Mikel and Andy should
have retired and, if they wished, stood for re-election.  The fact that
other board members wished to retire does not appear to be relevant.



 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM09
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM08
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM07

 FYI, and because I love ASCII-(ch)art, here is the history of the OSMF
 board elections. (monospace font required.)

 07|08|09|10|
  Y |- | Y |- | Steve Coast
  Y | Y | Y | - | Andy Robinson
  Y | Y | N | - | George James (Etienne)
  Y | Y | Y | - | Michael Collinson
  Y | Y | Y |- | Mikel Maron
  Y | - | - | - | Richard Fairhurst
  Y | - | - | - | Corey Burger
  - | Y | N | - | Nick Black
  - | Y | Y |- | Henk Hoff
  - | N | - | - | Grant Slater
  - | N | Y |- | Simone Cortesi
  - | N | - | - | Richard Weait
  - | - | Y | - | Ulf Möller
  - | - | N | - | Peter Miller
  - | - | N | - | Hurricane Coast (nee McEwen)
  - | - | - | Y | Emilie Laffray
  - | - | - | Y | Iván Sánchez Ortega
  - | - | - | Y | Oliver Kühn
  - | - | - | N | Lars Franke
  - | - | - | N | Thea Clay
  - | - | - | N | Kate Chapman

 [ ... ]
  Interestingly, I notice the number of foundation members is dropping
  over previous years, 2009 numbers were over 250, where 2010 numbers were
  only 130.  Has any effort been made to find out why so many former
  members decided not to rejoin?

 Those numbers surprise me.  Where did you get them?  145 valid votes
 were cast for the most recent election, so your 130 does not match
 the election results found here.

 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2010-August/000975.html

 I do remember the AGM10 report from the membership secretary
 mentioning the number of paid members (but I don't recall the number).
  Perhaps I can find that report.

 [ ... ]

  Do the various working
  groups publish their own minutes or decisions, [ ... ]

 Steve Bennett showed us the location of the minutes.

 http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes

 There is also an unofficial summary of Board and Working Group
 activities that is published periodically at
 http://blog.osmfoundation.org/

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