Re: [talk-au] Proposed features/Snow chains
hei all first - great idea to map areas where snow chains need to be carried. In the Australian context: The season for needing to carry chains is generally fixed, and corresponds to when park entry fees change (on tarred / main roads which go to snowfields at least). In my experience its not a subject decision every day, more like: 'between date 1 and date 2 you are required to carry chains, road A requires all vehicles to carry chains, road B requires only 2wd vehicles to carry chains'. I haven't seen a requirement for winter tyres in Australia, but as a general principle always bought ones with the snow/mountain mark anyway :) Chain fitting bays are usually fixed sites - the variable part is which ones are in use as chain fitting bays on any given day, so giving it a conditional flag which indicates 'in winter this might be a chain fitting bay' is a great idea. Anyway, I've scanned the proposal and don't see any issues yet, it seems generally useful given my experience with snow and ice driving in Australia (seems paradoxical huh? hope that helps, Adam On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 at 09:18, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > highway=chain_up_area sounds fine, while these places close/open depending > on conditions, many are signposted as chain bays and they don't move, so can > be surveyed and added. > > I think snow_chains:conditional=required @ ... is very useful to show roads > which you may be expected to carry and use snow chains, at least during > particular seasons. I can't see why anyone would think this is not a good > idea? > > Leaving the current situation about if you need to use the chains up to local > signage which does change with conditions over time so won't be tagged. > > On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 at 18:06, Brendan Barnes wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> For the NSW and Victorian snowfield mappers, user Trapicki has submitted a >> comprehensive snow chains proposal: >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Snow_chains >> >> A lot of Aussie chain bays are (incorrectly) tagged as parking lots, so >> proposed tags may be useful. >> >> ..Brendan >> >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Proposed features/Snow chains
highway=chain_up_area sounds fine, while these places close/open depending on conditions, many are signposted as chain bays and they don't move, so can be surveyed and added. I think snow_chains:conditional=required @ ... is very useful to show roads which you may be expected to carry and use snow chains, at least during particular seasons. I can't see why anyone would think this is not a good idea? Leaving the current situation about if you need to use the chains up to local signage which does change with conditions over time so won't be tagged. On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 at 18:06, Brendan Barnes wrote: > Hi all, > > For the NSW and Victorian snowfield mappers, user Trapicki has submitted a > comprehensive snow chains proposal: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Snow_chains > > A lot of Aussie chain bays are (incorrectly) tagged as parking lots, so > proposed tags may be useful. > > ..Brendan > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Proposed features/Snow chains
On 14/11/21 18:30, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi My impression in Victoria is that the chain fitting and chains required locations move up and down the mountain with the weather and that there's very little that can be mapped. Tony snow_chains:conditional=required @ snow; required @ ice Apparently... almost as useful as: headlight:conditional=required @ dark ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Proposed features/Snow chains
Hi My impression in Victoria is that the chain fitting and chains required locations move up and down the mountain with the weather and that there's very little that can be mapped. Tony Hi all, For the NSW and Victorian snowfield mappers, user Trapicki has submitted a comprehensive snow chains proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Snow_chains A lot of Aussie chain bays are (incorrectly) tagged as parking lots, so proposed tags may be useful. ..Brendan ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Proposed features/Snow chains
Hi all, For the NSW and Victorian snowfield mappers, user Trapicki has submitted a comprehensive snow chains proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Snow_chains A lot of Aussie chain bays are (incorrectly) tagged as parking lots, so proposed tags may be useful. ..Brendan ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
