Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails

2009-10-07 Thread Hugh Barnes
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:24:26 +1000
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/10/6 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
  On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Jeff Price wrote:
  G'day all,
 
  Any chance folks could take some conversations offline, or batch
  up their 15 emails into a single email?  I presume I'm not the
  only one who has pretty well stopped paying any real attention to
  the talk-au list because its carrying on like a Twitter feed.
 
  Jeff.
  if you get the list emailed as a digest ( an option you can set at
  http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ) you have that
  easily.
 

This makes it difficult to take part in conversations in a thread-safe
way.

 Alternatively emails can be either sent to a new mail account just for
 mailing list(s) emails or filtered differently from personal emails.
 

I'm sorry, you've got the onus for change on completely the wrong side.
The tweeters are the offending parties in this case, and also in the
minority. They should adapt their behaviour to those of us who follow
standard behavioural norms and who consider others, instead of the
other way around.

There are more suitable channels, as Jeff pointed out, or start your
own list.

The serious effect of this chatter, whether I digest or not, is that I
miss a lot of important stuff because it's buried in the noise, which I
tend to skim. Please think it through with other people and the
net(work) effect in mind.

Wiki vote, perhaps?

Cheers, hopefully not for the last time.

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Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails

2009-10-07 Thread Jim Croft
gmail threads messages by topic by default which reduces clutter and
takes a lot of the pain out of cleanup :)

jim

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Hugh Barnes list@hughbris.com wrote:
 On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:24:26 +1000
 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/10/6 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
  On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Jeff Price wrote:
  G'day all,
 
  Any chance folks could take some conversations offline, or batch
  up their 15 emails into a single email?  I presume I'm not the
  only one who has pretty well stopped paying any real attention to
  the talk-au list because its carrying on like a Twitter feed.
 
  Jeff.
  if you get the list emailed as a digest ( an option you can set at
  http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ) you have that
  easily.


 This makes it difficult to take part in conversations in a thread-safe
 way.

 Alternatively emails can be either sent to a new mail account just for
 mailing list(s) emails or filtered differently from personal emails.


 I'm sorry, you've got the onus for change on completely the wrong side.
 The tweeters are the offending parties in this case, and also in the
 minority. They should adapt their behaviour to those of us who follow
 standard behavioural norms and who consider others, instead of the
 other way around.

 There are more suitable channels, as Jeff pointed out, or start your
 own list.

 The serious effect of this chatter, whether I digest or not, is that I
 miss a lot of important stuff because it's buried in the noise, which I
 tend to skim. Please think it through with other people and the
 net(work) effect in mind.

 Wiki vote, perhaps?

 Cheers, hopefully not for the last time.

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Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails

2009-10-07 Thread John Smith
2009/10/7 Hugh Barnes list@hughbris.com:
 On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:24:26 +1000
 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/10/6 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
  On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Jeff Price wrote:
  G'day all,
 
  Any chance folks could take some conversations offline, or batch
  up their 15 emails into a single email?  I presume I'm not the
  only one who has pretty well stopped paying any real attention to
  the talk-au list because its carrying on like a Twitter feed.
 
  Jeff.
  if you get the list emailed as a digest ( an option you can set at
  http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ) you have that
  easily.


 This makes it difficult to take part in conversations in a thread-safe
 way.

 Alternatively emails can be either sent to a new mail account just for
 mailing list(s) emails or filtered differently from personal emails.


 I'm sorry, you've got the onus for change on completely the wrong side.
 The tweeters are the offending parties in this case, and also in the
 minority. They should adapt their behaviour to those of us who follow
 standard behavioural norms and who consider others, instead of the
 other way around.

 There are more suitable channels, as Jeff pointed out, or start your
 own list.

 The serious effect of this chatter, whether I digest or not, is that I
 miss a lot of important stuff because it's buried in the noise, which I
 tend to skim. Please think it through with other people and the
 net(work) effect in mind.

 Wiki vote, perhaps?

This seems very subjective as to what an appropriate amount of emails
is and and could possibly kill all conversation on this list, since
people that do wish to subscribe to such emails will just shift to say
talk-au-high-volume mailing list and this list will drop to almost
nothing as a result.

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Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails

2009-10-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Hugh Barnes wrote:
 I'm sorry, you've got the onus for change on completely the wrong side.
 The tweeters are the offending parties in this case, and also in the
 minority. They should adapt their behaviour to those of us who follow
 standard behavioural norms and who consider others, instead of the
 other way around.

 There are more suitable channels, as Jeff pointed out, or start your
 own list.
offenders??
this list is described on the page which lists the osm mailing lists as place 
for Aussie mappers to chat
I don't use twitter or any social networking sites, and don't care for any 
opinion that my behaviour may be like being on one of those.
Suitable channels? 
suitable for what?

I appreciate that list traffic is increasing, but that is the nature of life, 
and I increase the list traffic by inviting as many Aussie mappers as I can 
onto this list.



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Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails

2009-10-07 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:

 Suitable channels?
 suitable for what?

I think those complaining about list activity need to be more specific
about what is and what isn't acceptable. You can't just ask people
to stop being twitter-like.

Personally, I think staying on topic is good enough - it's easy to
skip a thread based on the email subject if it is not of interest to
you.

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[talk-au] Twitter like emails

2009-10-06 Thread Jeff Price
G'day all,

Any chance folks could take some conversations offline, or batch up their 15 
emails into a single email?  I presume I'm not the only one who has pretty well 
stopped paying any real attention to the talk-au list because its carrying on 
like a Twitter feed.

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Re: [talk-au] Twitter like emails

2009-10-06 Thread John Smith
2009/10/6 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
 On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Jeff Price wrote:
 G'day all,

 Any chance folks could take some conversations offline, or batch up their
 15 emails into a single email?  I presume I'm not the only one who has
 pretty well stopped paying any real attention to the talk-au list because
 its carrying on like a Twitter feed.

 Jeff.
 if you get the list emailed as a digest ( an option you can set at
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ) you have that easily.

Alternatively emails can be either sent to a new mail account just for
mailing list(s) emails or filtered differently from personal emails.

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