[talk-au] scenic routes
Hi all, I have an angle for updating OSM. I want to find a file of all scenic drives. The ones sign posted with brown signs that you see when driving. For all my Googling, I can't seem to find a map or a file of these. It would be good to tag all such roads in OSM so it's easy to plan scenic trips. I want to do this so I can discover more nice parts of Queensland. Wil ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] scenic routes
Yep, good idea Wil. I don't see anything obvious in Map Features, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features you really have two choices, define your own or start a campaign to define a suitable key. First is easier, second will do a heap better job as if most people do it the same way, its going to be easier to find entries. If you go for the roll your own solution, do doc it in the Australian page so local people can at least follow you example. I think its something you add to a road, so maybe its - highway=* tourism=scenic_route . However, most of the things defined under tourism http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourism are really POI like, does that mean they should not be applied to a linear thing ? David On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 23:32 +1030, wil ly wrote: Hi all, I have an angle for updating OSM. I want to find a file of all scenic drives. The ones sign posted with brown signs that you see when driving. For all my Googling, I can't seem to find a map or a file of these. It would be good to tag all such roads in OSM so it's easy to plan scenic trips. I want to do this so I can discover more nice parts of Queensland. Wil ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] scenic routes
Traditionally, I've seen these mapped as route relations type=route route=road network=T ref=number Where they are numbered tourist routes. There are a fair few of them around, and this is documented on AU tagging guidelines page, I think.. Ian. On 8 November 2012 08:47, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: Yep, good idea Wil. I don't see anything obvious in Map Features, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features you really have two choices, define your own or start a campaign to define a suitable key. First is easier, second will do a heap better job as if most people do it the same way, its going to be easier to find entries. If you go for the roll your own solution, do doc it in the Australian page so local people can at least follow you example. I think its something you add to a road, so maybe its - highway=* tourism=scenic_route . However, most of the things defined under tourism http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourism are really POI like, does that mean they should not be applied to a linear thing ? David On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 23:32 +1030, wil ly wrote: Hi all, I have an angle for updating OSM. I want to find a file of all scenic drives. The ones sign posted with brown signs that you see when driving. For all my Googling, I can't seem to find a map or a file of these. It would be good to tag all such roads in OSM so it's easy to plan scenic trips. I want to do this so I can discover more nice parts of Queensland. Wil ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] scenic routes
Agreed. What Ian says. Use a route relation. - Ben. On Nov 8, 2012 9:18 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: Traditionally, I've seen these mapped as route relations type=route route=road network=T ref=number Where they are numbered tourist routes. There are a fair few of them around, and this is documented on AU tagging guidelines page, I think.. Ian. On 8 November 2012 08:47, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: Yep, good idea Wil. I don't see anything obvious in Map Features, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features you really have two choices, define your own or start a campaign to define a suitable key. First is easier, second will do a heap better job as if most people do it the same way, its going to be easier to find entries. If you go for the roll your own solution, do doc it in the Australian page so local people can at least follow you example. I think its something you add to a road, so maybe its - highway=* tourism=scenic_route . However, most of the things defined under tourism http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourism are really POI like, does that mean they should not be applied to a linear thing ? David On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 23:32 +1030, wil ly wrote: Hi all, I have an angle for updating OSM. I want to find a file of all scenic drives. The ones sign posted with brown signs that you see when driving. For all my Googling, I can't seem to find a map or a file of these. It would be good to tag all such roads in OSM so it's easy to plan scenic trips. I want to do this so I can discover more nice parts of Queensland. Wil ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] scenic routes
Ian, I don't think it (route relations for eg scenic routes) is doc'ed on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines Or not that I can find. Sounds like a good approach, should it be on the above page so people can be suitably inspired ? David On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 09:17 +1100, Ian Sergeant wrote: Traditionally, I've seen these mapped as route relations type=route route=road network=T ref=number Where they are numbered tourist routes. There are a fair few of them around, and this is documented on AU tagging guidelines page, I think.. Ian. On 8 November 2012 08:47, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: Yep, good idea Wil. I don't see anything obvious in Map Features, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features you really have two choices, define your own or start a campaign to define a suitable key. First is easier, second will do a heap better job as if most people do it the same way, its going to be easier to find entries. If you go for the roll your own solution, do doc it in the Australian page so local people can at least follow you example. I think its something you add to a road, so maybe its - highway=* tourism=scenic_route . However, most of the things defined under tourism http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourism are really POI like, does that mean they should not be applied to a linear thing ? David On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 23:32 +1030, wil ly wrote: Hi all, I have an angle for updating OSM. I want to find a file of all scenic drives. The ones sign posted with brown signs that you see when driving. For all my Googling, I can't seem to find a map or a file of these. It would be good to tag all such roads in OSM so it's easy to plan scenic trips. I want to do this so I can discover more nice parts of Queensland. Wil ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] scenic routes
I guess for copyright reasons you would actually need to go and read the street signs instead of tagging out of a copyrighted book or file? Russell On 2012-11-08 00:02, wil ly wrote: Hi all, I have an angle for updating OSM. I want to find a file of all scenic drives. The ones sign posted with brown signs that you see when driving. For all my Googling, I can't seem to find a map or a file of these. It would be good to tag all such roads in OSM so it's easy to plan scenic trips. I want to do this so I can discover more nice parts of Queensland. Wil ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] scenic routes
On 8 November 2012 11:06, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: Ian, I don't think it (route relations for eg scenic routes) is doc'ed on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines Or not that I can find. Sounds like a good approach, should it be on the above page so people can be suitably inspired ? It was on that page, hidden under non-alphanumeric highway shields. I've given it its own heading for added prominence, but feel free to do whatever you can to make it findable. Ian. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] scenic routes
Hi guys, I have discovered, finally, a couple of resources for tourist drives (as indicated by numbered brown signs). 1. DERM's physical roads dataset dated 28/9/2010 has a TOURNUM field, but this only seems to contain a few tourist drives: 1, 5, 8, 9, 10, 16, 22, 23, 42, 43, 99, LA and z (the last two I suspect are not named correctly). 2. RACQ's trip planner: http://www.racq.com.au/travel/drive_travel/trip_planner#directions:route/Kuranda/Mareeba/Tolga/Malanda-Atherton_Road_East_Barron_/Yungaburra/Malanda/Millaa_Millaa/PALMERSTON,_QUEENSLAND/Innisfail This has a button top left (right most button) to toggle tourist drives. I am not sure if these are official tourist drives (are there such things - does the government decide on them, and what level of government?), but it's a start. I'm just wondering if there's an automated method to extract these features from their web map. I sent RACQ an email asking for the data, who knows how that will go. Still looking for a definitive source of tourist drive dataset. Let me know if you find anything. Wil On 8 November 2012 13:12, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 November 2012 11:06, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: Ian, I don't think it (route relations for eg scenic routes) is doc'ed on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines Or not that I can find. Sounds like a good approach, should it be on the above page so people can be suitably inspired ? It was on that page, hidden under non-alphanumeric highway shields. I've given it its own heading for added prominence, but feel free to do whatever you can to make it findable. Ian. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
