Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
Neil Penman wrote: Yes the Coober Pedy golf course is almost identical to the google maps representation. Using google earth it does however seem to me that the golf course in that area (no grass of course) but the area marked on the maps only covers a small part of the total course, maybe the club house and immediate surrounds. Still the main point I wanted to make is that if before talking about reverting edits you need to talk to the mapper directly and get there story. Agree totally. Message sent. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
It's not a full sized golf course from what I saw of it when I was through there in June this year. Kevin S From: talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Neil Penman Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2010 3:20 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org; i...@4x4falcon.com Subject: Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names Yes the Coober Pedy golf course is almost identical to the google maps representation. Using google earth it does however seem to me that the golf course in that area (no grass of course) but the area marked on the maps only covers a small part of the total course, maybe the club house and immediate surrounds. Still the main point I wanted to make is that if before talking about reverting edits you need to talk to the mapper directly and get there story. --- On Wed, 27/10/10, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: From: Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com Subject: Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Received: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010, 12:42 PM referenced is for Coober Pedy. As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. The Coober Pedy ones look suspect as well. If you compare the Golf Cource (their spelling) with the mentioned commercial maps then they are similar. If you look at the satellite images from the same source then you see that it bears no resemblence to what is actually there. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
Ian Sergeant wrote: As far as street names are concerned, we could just pick up the names for the streets currently unnamed by survey from the Atlas of SA, and attribute appropriately. If someone gets updated names from survey, they can update. Until then the temptation to just add them from a commercial map is gone. It would only take a couple of minutes for Maree/Coober Pedy, and the problem as far as street names go would vanish. Ian. Good idea. Just be careful not to replace names already surveyed. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
As far as street names are concerned, we could just pick up the names for the streets currently unnamed by survey from the Atlas of SA, and attribute appropriately. I've got 3 names by research - checking the addresses of the pub, school, police station. After that I was going to send offspring to Dept Lands in Adelaide to read the official maps and get some names definitely off copyright I didn't know about the Atlas of SA If someone gets updated names from survey, they can update. Until then the temptation to just add them from a commercial map is gone. It would only take a couple of minutes for Maree/Coober Pedy, and the problem as far as street names go would vanish. Ian. That then removes the tempation On 27 October 2010 12:42, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: referenced is for Coober Pedy. As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. The Coober Pedy ones look suspect as well. If you compare the Golf Cource (their spelling) with the mentioned commercial maps then they are similar. If you look at the satellite images from the same source then you see that it bears no resemblence to what is actually there. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:20:50 -0400 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: What did staehler say when you discussed this? reply sent to list separately ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. Pub isn't where he put it, nor the Health Service and the pub is really called The Great Northern Hotel on the board with the licensee's name ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
You done good Liz. Well spotted. --- On Wed, 27/10/10, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: From: Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net Subject: Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names To: Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Received: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010, 7:22 PM On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. Pub isn't where he put it, nor the Health Service and the pub is really called The Great Northern Hotel on the board with the licensee's name ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:16:10 +1100 Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: As far as street names are concerned, we could just pick up the names for the streets currently unnamed by survey from the Atlas of SA, and attribute appropriately. If someone gets updated names from survey, they can update. Until then the temptation to just add them from a commercial map is gone. It would only take a couple of minutes for Maree/Coober Pedy, and the problem as far as street names go would vanish. Son agrees to get copyright free data from appropriate government department in Adelaide - he said he had to go there anyway. then when the revert process has completed I can add names and attribute them to correct source ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4274375 Rosscoe surveyed the streets of Marree, and there are no street signs at all. From the comfort of his German home, staehler has determined the street names, adding in a few interesting points in the wrong place, but just the same as certain commercial map, spelling the name of the hotel and health service wrongly (which might avoid copyright infringements). I saw in this guys changesets also Halls Creek, and I really think that we should revert any Australian stuff he has done. What did staehler say when you discussed this? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
I could be wrong about this but It looks to me like Rosscoe added the street names for Marree. Most of the information in the changeset you referenced is for Coober Pedy. As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. Any way if you have concerns I think you should contact him directly before suggesting his work be reverted. --- On Wed, 27/10/10, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: From: Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net Subject: [talk-au] outback SA street names To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Received: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010, 7:36 AM http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4274375 Rosscoe surveyed the streets of Marree, and there are no street signs at all. From the comfort of his German home, staehler has determined the street names, adding in a few interesting points in the wrong place, but just the same as certain commercial map, spelling the name of the hotel and health service wrongly (which might avoid copyright infringements). I saw in this guys changesets also Halls Creek, and I really think that we should revert any Australian stuff he has done. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
Neil Penman wrote: I could be wrong about this but It looks to me like Rosscoe added the street names for Marree. Most of the information in the changeset you referenced is for Coober Pedy. As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. Rosscoe surveyed the streets of Marree, and there are no street signs at all. From the comfort of his German home, staehler has determined the street names, adding in a few interesting points in the wrong place, but just the same as certain commercial map, spelling the name of the hotel and health service wrongly (which might avoid copyright infringements). I saw in this guys changesets also Halls Creek, and I really think that we should revert any Australian stuff he has done. I added those street names I could find and confirm at the time I originally surved them in 2008. I can't remember the exact details (there at home) and I'm in WA at the moment. From memory Fifth Street did not exist as currently depicted but I can not be sure, likewise some of the others. The pub is on Railway Terrace not the Oodnadatta Track also from memory. I doubt whether they were on holidays as suggested as there are no gaps in the editing time frame for staehler. This and the Halls Creek edits just appear randomly in amongst all their other edits. as here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/staehler/edits?page=15 Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
referenced is for Coober Pedy. As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. The Coober Pedy ones look suspect as well. If you compare the Golf Cource (their spelling) with the mentioned commercial maps then they are similar. If you look at the satellite images from the same source then you see that it bears no resemblence to what is actually there. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
As far as street names are concerned, we could just pick up the names for the streets currently unnamed by survey from the Atlas of SA, and attribute appropriately. If someone gets updated names from survey, they can update. Until then the temptation to just add them from a commercial map is gone. It would only take a couple of minutes for Maree/Coober Pedy, and the problem as far as street names go would vanish. Ian. That then removes the tempation On 27 October 2010 12:42, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: referenced is for Coober Pedy. As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. The Coober Pedy ones look suspect as well. If you compare the Golf Cource (their spelling) with the mentioned commercial maps then they are similar. If you look at the satellite images from the same source then you see that it bears no resemblence to what is actually there. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names
Yes the Coober Pedy golf course is almost identical to the google maps representation. Using google earth it does however seem to me that the golf course in that area (no grass of course) but the area marked on the maps only covers a small part of the total course, maybe the club house and immediate surrounds. Still the main point I wanted to make is that if before talking about reverting edits you need to talk to the mapper directly and get there story. --- On Wed, 27/10/10, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: From: Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com Subject: Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Received: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010, 12:42 PM referenced is for Coober Pedy. As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went. The Coober Pedy ones look suspect as well. If you compare the Golf Cource (their spelling) with the mentioned commercial maps then they are similar. If you look at the satellite images from the same source then you see that it bears no resemblence to what is actually there. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
