Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [Talk-us] Boston transit info available
I don't know about Translink, but I know BC Transit, which controls the rest of the province is actively interested in getting their data into the Google Transit Data Spec. No timeframe though, because that person is busy with a lot of shiny new projects. Corey On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Sam Vekemansacrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Just being a messenger here. I forget who it was in Halifax who said that OSM is used for the local transit map? Anyway, im not on that talk-transit list, but it might be of interest to you. Also, if anyone has an 'in' with Translink (vancouver transit) it would be great to get access to that data stream. :-) (as i think the city is looking at freeing up their data) cheers, Sam -- Forwarded message -- From: Hillsman, Edward hills...@cutr.usf.edu Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:55:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Boston transit info available To: talk...@openstreetmap.org On 22 Aug 2009, at 09:29, Peter Miller wrote: Calling all 'US' people interested in transit systems. We are in the middle of an major import of 350,000 bus stops and ferry terminals etc for the UK ( London and a couple of other places have been imported in the past two days - Birmingham was imported two months ago). There are a good number of US transit data feeds available now with bus stop and route data and it would be great to have these in OSM. When you have then you can produce bus maps and all sorts of other lovely stuff including bus maps and it makes it easier to link between OSM and official route planners and real time feeds etc from transit authorities. So... Please, let's have some folk getting stuck into the imports of this data. We already have code available which we used in the US which could probably be adapted for the import of GTFS and other data feeds. The main wiki page for mass transit/public transport on the wiki is here and you can need drill in by mode. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport Hi Peter, My guess is that you have my expression of interest and contact information from a post earlier this month on talk-transit, but in case not, please count me in. One of my colleagues and I are finalizing a scope of work that includes developing tools to enable US transit agencies to upload their GTFS data into OSM whenever they update their data in Google. Part of a longer term effort to link bike/bus/walk route planning here. The project is not formally agreed to yet, but we think it is pretty likely to start this fall. So, definitely, I'm interested and look forward to working with the group. Certainly we'd be interested in starting with what you've done in the US. Edward L. Hillsman, Ph.D. Senior Research Associate Center for Urban Transportation Research University of South Florida 4202 Fowler Ave., CUT100 Tampa, FL 33620-5375 813-974-2977 (tel) 813-974-5168 (fax) hills...@cutr.usf.edu mailto:pol...@cutr.usf.edu http://www.cutr.usf.edu blocked::http://www.cutr.usf.edu/ -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [Talk-us] Boston transit info available
I should also mention this: http://www.transitdb.ca/ Corey On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Sam Vekemansacrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: If you have a chance, (im not at a computer right now). Perhaps we can put a new section on the BC province wiki page under 'goals' . I put a star on this email, so its on my todo list :) On 8/26/09, Corey Burger corey.bur...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know about Translink, but I know BC Transit, which controls the rest of the province is actively interested in getting their data into the Google Transit Data Spec. No timeframe though, because that person is busy with a lot of shiny new projects. Corey On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Sam Vekemansacrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Just being a messenger here. I forget who it was in Halifax who said that OSM is used for the local transit map? Anyway, im not on that talk-transit list, but it might be of interest to you. Also, if anyone has an 'in' with Translink (vancouver transit) it would be great to get access to that data stream. :-) (as i think the city is looking at freeing up their data) cheers, Sam -- Forwarded message -- From: Hillsman, Edward hills...@cutr.usf.edu Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:55:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Boston transit info available To: talk...@openstreetmap.org On 22 Aug 2009, at 09:29, Peter Miller wrote: Calling all 'US' people interested in transit systems. We are in the middle of an major import of 350,000 bus stops and ferry terminals etc for the UK ( London and a couple of other places have been imported in the past two days - Birmingham was imported two months ago). There are a good number of US transit data feeds available now with bus stop and route data and it would be great to have these in OSM. When you have then you can produce bus maps and all sorts of other lovely stuff including bus maps and it makes it easier to link between OSM and official route planners and real time feeds etc from transit authorities. So... Please, let's have some folk getting stuck into the imports of this data. We already have code available which we used in the US which could probably be adapted for the import of GTFS and other data feeds. The main wiki page for mass transit/public transport on the wiki is here and you can need drill in by mode. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport Hi Peter, My guess is that you have my expression of interest and contact information from a post earlier this month on talk-transit, but in case not, please count me in. One of my colleagues and I are finalizing a scope of work that includes developing tools to enable US transit agencies to upload their GTFS data into OSM whenever they update their data in Google. Part of a longer term effort to link bike/bus/walk route planning here. The project is not formally agreed to yet, but we think it is pretty likely to start this fall. So, definitely, I'm interested and look forward to working with the group. Certainly we'd be interested in starting with what you've done in the US. Edward L. Hillsman, Ph.D. Senior Research Associate Center for Urban Transportation Research University of South Florida 4202 Fowler Ave., CUT100 Tampa, FL 33620-5375 813-974-2977 (tel) 813-974-5168 (fax) hills...@cutr.usf.edu mailto:pol...@cutr.usf.edu http://www.cutr.usf.edu blocked::http://www.cutr.usf.edu/ -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Can-Amera border, states and provinces.
Richard Weait wrote: Well we are all the OSM project, so regional styles would have some support; you and me at least. ;-) How to implement it? That's a question. I'm interested in regional styles as well, but it's a tough nut to crack, if you want the regional styles to be collated into 1 overall map, like the competition also has. So, IF mapnik / osmarender supported regions style sheets, They can easily render from different stylesheets, as a separate task. That only makes you end up with 2 sets of tiles. The interesting, and very challenging task, is then how to stitch them up at the boundaries where the style changes. and IF regional style sheets existed for USA and Canada, That's up to people like you and me. They won't magically pop into existence. Fortunately, most of the changes involve tweaks to colour, symbols, and zoom levels. Most of the structure of the stylesheet can be preserved just fine when doing another style. and IF the Foundation / server team decided to support the idea, then the main site could serve regional tiles to all who visit. I think that the first two points are the tricky ones. Do not discount the last one. = Would the main OSM site connect to and defer to the regional server? No. The stance I got when it came up in discussion is that the map on openstreetmap.org will only show tiles coming from servers under control of the osm.org admins. They would not redirect to an outside server for different regions. -- Lennard ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Hey, look! State / Prov borders!
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Lennardl...@xs4all.nl wrote: Richard Weait wrote: I think the provincial / state borders will continue to be yucky on the main map until mapnik supports rendering different style sheets As you guys in the North Americas might will probably already have noticed, the main mapnik style now shows state boundaries, and also labels them either by ref or name, depending on zoom. I wrote something on talk-us last week, but I apparently forgot to include talk-ca, as I wasn't subscribed to talk-ca at the time. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2009-August/001522.html Oh, that is very nice. I'm surprised I missed that on the first time around. Excellent work by ldp (Lennard) and delta_foxtrot2. So we USA-ians have a few nodes to move for place=state; Canucks, do we have to clean up some border artifacts? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=60mlon=-90layers=B000FTFzoom=6 Best regards, Richard ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Can-Amera border, states and provinces.
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Lennardl...@xs4all.nl wrote: As you guys in the North Americas might will probably already have noticed, the main mapnik style now shows state boundaries, and also labels them either by ref or name, depending on zoom. I noticed that yesterday... I'm much happier now, Canada is starting to look like it has some mapping going on. It's no longer a blank slate. Of course now that the borders are rendered at a level when you can see the data, I see that there are multiple borders around Alberta. Every time we make the data in the database visible, we find more problems! Oh well, it was an easy fix... I had a look and found that it was some lunk-head by the user name of VE6SRV that put imprecise borders in place... Just deleted them from the database, and now all should render nicely. Oh yeah, there's only one North America... even if those silly people to the south of us think they can label themselves as if they are the only inhabitants of the Americas! So, while poking around, I notice that again we have these node remnants... big old green dots along the way that don't describe anything. We've seen this quite often before, mostly part of mass imports. The lakewalker script left these behind on shorelines, the GeoBase road import left them as well. Now again they are here on the border import. Do we need to look at fixing the way the automated imports happen, or fixing the import routines to be able to handle the speed at which the data is thrown at it, or do we just live with it? It also looks like Daniel Patterson was importing the continental divide as well. Lots of nodes, but it doesn't look like a way was described. Is there a tag for the continental divide? I did a quick look in the wiki, and didn't see it. They might have a tag in the watershed project. The continental divide is a feature that is described on a lot of maps. Here's where to look: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.7998lon=-119.977zoom=13 James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Hey, look! State / Prov borders!
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Richard Weaitrich...@weait.com wrote: So we USA-ians have a few nodes to move for place=state; Ooh, yuck... the state name labels end up in the wrong spots... missed that. Washington looks like it has two labels. I had a look at Canadian labels and they look okay except for Nunavut. The NU label is good when zoomed out, but I don't see the name Nunavut when zoomed in like the rest of the provinces/territories. We're missing borders at different zoom levels, but that's probably going to sort out as the tiles are rendered. Canucks, do we have to clean up some border artifacts? I did some housekeeping along the western border of Alberta, and also along the 60th parallel already. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Hey, look! State / Prov borders!
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 10:56 -0400, Adam Schreiber wrote: To make things clear, should the place=state tag be placed on, near the node for the capital city of the state? Why not closer to the geographic center like expected? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
