Re: [Talk-ca] Some french translation advice
In practice, people are much more likely to use Highway 59 rather than Provincial Trunk Highway 59. Even if the latter is the formally correct name, it's extremely cumbersome and stilted; can you imagine it in text-to-speech driving directions? For French names of Manitoba highways, I'd consider using Route, as is done in Quebec -- i.e., if name:en=Highway 59, then name:fr=Route 59. But what is the Franco-Manitoban practice? That's what should determine it. Other points: Provincial Trunk Highway would be wrong for 1, 16, 100 and 101; I'd use Trans-Canada Highway for 1 (except where it's a street), Yellowhead Highway for 16, and Perimeter Highway for 100 and 101. (I seem to have become a descriptivist rather than a prescriptivist. We're making a map for people to use, not a GIS with precise definitions.) Note that provincial roads begin at 200. 110 is a trunk highway. Also note that highways frequently have street names, especially when passing through towns, but also sometimes in nominally rural areas. A plugin might break all kinds of correct names. On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Daniel Begin jfd...@hotmail.com wrote: Bonjour Tyler, I don't know the best practices about naming roads when a road is not really named like Tyler Gunn Trunk Highway. I prefer not adding any name tag when the name tag would actually be a combination of other tags and context as you suggest... Context: with few exceptions, all Canadian roads are provincial or municipal tag highway=trunk tag ref=99 then, a name=Provincial Trunk Highway 99 tag seems a bit artificial for me. However, to answer your questions - Provincial Trunk Highway XY: As there is no real translation for trunk in this context, so I would suggest route provinciale XY - Provincial Road XYX: I would suggest route provinciale XYX Best regards Daniel -Original Message- From: Tyler Gunn [mailto:ty...@egunn.com] Sent: January-11-12 10:53 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Some french translation advice I'm working on a JOSM plugin to help rename/reclassify provincial roads and provincial trunk highways in Manitoba in the Canvec data. The goal is to enforce a common naming for PRs and PTHs in MB. Generally, highways with ref=0-99 are considered Provincial Trunk Highways, and as such I've got the following names: EN: Provincial Trunk Highway XY FR: route provinciale à grande circulation XY Generally, highways with ref99 are considered Provincial Roads, as as such I've got the following names: EN = Provincial Road XYX FR = route provinciale secondaire XYZ These are the french translations I could come up with, given my very limited understanding of the French language. Could someone proof these for me and let me know if I'm completely off base? Thanks, Tyler -- Jonathan Crowe http://www.jonathancrowe.net ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] OSM Hack Weekend in Washington, DC
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Based on the success, and incredible fun of the OSM Hacking Weekends in London, a bunch of OSMers in the US have decided to ruthlessly steal the idea and try running one ourselves. US Community? Okay, I can't resist this anyway. :-) See you there. (That means you have to go, too.) I'll be working on either highway shields (surprise) or mapper statistics or both. But mostly, I'm in it to spend time chatting with everybody and learning from you at the restaurant. Register now. Please sign up at the Eventbrite page: http://osmhackweekenddc2012.eventbrite.com/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DC_Hack_weekend_Feb_2012 See you there, Richard ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap
Good Afternoon Everyone, I've been lurking on the MkGMap developers list for several months now and see that recently, they have solved some major issues regarding finding streets when OSM is imported for use on Garmin GPS's... without the use of MapSource! They are now moving on to the problem of locating by house number. That's a great accomplishment and the developers deserve a lot of credit.!!! Very well done. Don't know if anyone else has been playing with this, but in short, there may need to be some Canadian-specific tweaks placed into the default style files that are packaged with MkGMap. Through adjustments to the MkGMap command line options, I've been able get the location function to work fairly well in my Nuvi 255, but have run into the issue where I can find Granville Street in Vancouver but Hastings Street can only be found under Gastown and Dundas Street under Capitol Hill. These should all be found in Vancouver. My first guess is that the administrative boundary levels need to be tweaked, not in OSM but in the MkGMap style files where some recasting can take place. They already have country-specific tweaks for about 20 European countries but nothing for Canada yet. I was just wondering if anyone has a customized MkGMap style file that works logically with the way administrative boundaries have been set up in Canada? If so, and we can show that it works well with r2179, their most recent stable version, we could probably pass it on to them for inclusion in the packaged style files so that the location function will work by default on Canadian extracts. Assuming you're willing to share of course :) Thanks... Sam Longiaru, Kamloops, BC ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap
The administrative boundaries in the lower mainland are not complete. I've been looking for a source for the rest of them, but haven't found one. From: SAMUEL LONGIARU [mailto:longi...@shaw.ca] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:42 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap Good Afternoon Everyone, I've been lurking on the MkGMap developers list for several months now and see that recently, they have solved some major issues regarding finding streets when OSM is imported for use on Garmin GPS's... without the use of MapSource! They are now moving on to the problem of locating by house number. That's a great accomplishment and the developers deserve a lot of credit.!!! Very well done. Don't know if anyone else has been playing with this, but in short, there may need to be some Canadian-specific tweaks placed into the default style files that are packaged with MkGMap. Through adjustments to the MkGMap command line options, I've been able get the location function to work fairly well in my Nuvi 255, but have run into the issue where I can find Granville Street in Vancouver but Hastings Street can only be found under Gastown and Dundas Street under Capitol Hill. These should all be found in Vancouver. My first guess is that the administrative boundary levels need to be tweaked, not in OSM but in the MkGMap style files where some recasting can take place. They already have country-specific tweaks for about 20 European countries but nothing for Canada yet. I was just wondering if anyone has a customized MkGMap style file that works logically with the way administrative boundaries have been set up in Canada? If so, and we can show that it works well with r2179, their most recent stable version, we could probably pass it on to them for inclusion in the packaged style files so that the location function will work by default on Canadian extracts. Assuming you're willing to share of course :) Thanks... Sam Longiaru, Kamloops, BC ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap
Ah... well that could be the issue. I was not aware of that. I thought those were established a while ago through a GeoBase import. Thanks. Sam -Original Message- From: Paul Norman penor...@mac.com To: 'SAMUEL LONGIARU' longi...@shaw.ca, talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:25:57 -0800 The administrative boundaries in the lower mainland are not complete. I’ve been looking for a source for the rest of them, but haven’t found one. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap
Surrey and Township of Langley borders were imported by me, which also got all of the City of Langley and White Rock borders in at the same time. I've mapped the New West border from street signs and local knowledge. Another user got the north shore and some of the tri-cities area. Burnaby, Vancouver, Richmond and Delta are all incomplete I believe. From: Samuel Longiaru [mailto:longi...@shaw.ca] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:56 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap Ah... well that could be the issue. I was not aware of that. I thought those were established a while ago through a GeoBase import. Thanks. Sam -Original Message- From: Paul Norman penor...@mac.com mailto:paul%20norman%20%3cpenor...@mac.com%3e To: 'SAMUEL LONGIARU' longi...@shaw.ca mailto:'SAMUEL%20LONGIARU'%20%3clongi...@shaw.ca%3e , talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Canadian-specific boundary tweaks for MkGMap Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:25:57 -0800 The administrative boundaries in the lower mainland are not complete. I've been looking for a source for the rest of them, but haven't found one. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
