Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal
Bonjour Pierre, Une très bonne nouvelle! Espérons que les autres villes suivront... À noter qu'au Québec, la ville de Repentigny vient, elle aussi, d'ouvrir des données. Bruno Remy Le 2013-03-02 12:05, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr a écrit : ENGLISH TEXT FOLLOWS Après consultation de la communauté, la ville de Montréal a modifié sa licence de données en date du 28 février 2013. Il est clairement stipulé sur la page de la licence : Elle est similaire à une licence *Creative Commons CC-BY*http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/. Par exemple, elle est compatible avec les licences de type ODblhttp://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/plus restrictives telles que celle d’ OpenStreetMap http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright. Voir http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/licence/ Lors de la journée de données ouvertes, samedi le 23 février, des représentants de la ville ont aussi offert de fournir les données de cadastre. Ceci contribuerait grandement à enrichir la carte de Montréal. Si des personnes sont intéressées à contribuer à ce dossier, veuillez communiquer avec moi. C'est une bonne nouvelle pour la communauté des données libres, les développeurs et tous ceux qui croient à une participation plus grande des citoyens. La ville de Montréal en modifiant sa licence contribue à mettre en place un éco-système ou les créateurs de données libres, les développeurs d'applications OpenSource, les gouvernements et les citoyens contribuent collectivement à enrichir l'information et le dialogue. Nous devrons bien sûr nous assurer avec le comité d'import de données que cette licences est compatible avec OSM. Nous espérons que cet exemple sera suivi par d'autres et notamment par le gouvernement du Québec et la ville de Québec. Pierre -- After consultation with the community, the city of Montreal changed its OpenData license the 28 February 2013. It is clearly stated on the page of the license: It is similar to a Creative Commons license CC-BY. For example, it is compatible with the more restrictive type ODbL licenses such as OpenStreetMap. See http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/licence/ On the Open Data day, Saturday, February 23, representatives of the city have also offered to provide cadastre data. This would greatly contribute to enrich the map of Montreal. If people are interested in contributing to this issue, please contact me. This is a good news for the community of free data, developers and all those who believe in a greater participation of citizens. The city of Montreal, by amending its license, contributes to develop an eco-system where OpenData creators OpenSource developpers, governments and citizens collectively contribute to enrich the information and dialogue. We should of course assure with the Import Workgroup that this license is compatible with OSM. We hope that this example will be followed by others, including the Government of Quebec and Quebec City. Pierre ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal
Voir la page suivante où le Conseil d'agglomération annonce la nouvelle licence. J'ai ajouté un commentaire pour remercier le Conseil et je vous invite à faire de même. C'est une façon de montrer que notre communauté est présente dans les débats. Ajoutez comme signature, Contributeur OpenStreetMap. http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/le-conseil-dagglomeration-adopte-une-nouvelle-licence-ouverte-et-une-premiere-politique-sur-louverture-des-donnees-de-la-ville-de-montreal/ Pierre De : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr À : talk-ca talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mars 2013 12h04 Objet : [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal ENGLISH TEXT FOLLOWS Après consultation de la communauté, la ville de Montréal a modifié sa licence de données en date du 28 février 2013. Il est clairement stipulé sur la page de la licence : Elle est similaire à une licence Creative Commons CC-BY. Par exemple, elle est compatible avec les licences de type ODbl plus restrictives telles que celle d’OpenStreetMap. Voir http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/licence/ Lors de la journée de données ouvertes, samedi le 23 février, des représentants de la ville ont aussi offert de fournir les données de cadastre. Ceci contribuerait grandement à enrichir la carte de Montréal. Si des personnes sont intéressées à contribuer à ce dossier, veuillez communiquer avec moi. C'est une bonne nouvelle pour la communauté des données libres, les développeurs et tous ceux qui croient à une participation plus grande des citoyens. La ville de Montréal en modifiant sa licence contribue à mettre en place un éco-système ou les créateurs de données libres, les développeurs d'applications OpenSource, les gouvernements et les citoyens contribuent collectivement à enrichir l'information et le dialogue. Nous devrons bien sûr nous assurer avec le comité d'import de données que cette licences est compatible avec OSM. Nous espérons que cet exemple sera suivi par d'autres et notamment par le gouvernement du Québec et la ville de Québec. Pierre -- After consultation with the community, the city of Montreal changed its OpenData license the28 February 2013. It is clearly stated on the page of the license: It is similar to a Creative Commons license CC-BY. For example, it is compatible with the more restrictive type ODbL licenses such as OpenStreetMap. See http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/licence/ On the Open Data day, Saturday, February 23, representatives of the city have also offered to provide cadastre data. This would greatly contribute to enrich the map of Montreal. If people are interested in contributing to this issue, please contact me. This is a good news for the community of free data, developers and all those who believe in a greater participation of citizens. The city of Montreal, by amending its license, contributes to develop an eco-system where OpenDatacreators OpenSource developpers, governments and citizens collectively contribute to enrich the information and dialogue. We should of course assure with the Import Workgroup that this license is compatible with OSM. We hope that this example will be followed by others, including the Government of Quebec and Quebec City. Pierre ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal
It’s good to see more municipalities opening up their data and open data catching on. Seeing more municipalities writing their own licenses isn’t so good. Now, on to the more practical questions needed to use the data. Could you provide a translation of 4.1 and 4.2 of their license? Are these identical to CC BY? One of the problems with CC BY is the vagueness of the attribution. Some cities regard our attribution as not meeting the CC BY attribution requirements, although I guess that isn’t an issue here because they’ve explicitly said it’s compatible with ODbL, so I have to assume that meeting the ODbL attribution requirements (met by listing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors) is sufficient for them. What’s the Import Workgroup you refer to? Lastly, cadastral data is probably the least exciting type of data for OSM. Other data like roads, addresses and even buildings is more useful. From: Pierre Béland [mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:05 AM To: talk-ca Subject: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal After consultation with the community, the city of Montreal changed its OpenData license the 28 February 2013. It is clearly stated on the page of the license: It is similar to a Creative Commons license CC-BY. For example, it is compatible with the more restrictive type ODbL licenses such as OpenStreetMap. See http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/licence/ On the Open Data day, Saturday, February 23, representatives of the city have also offered to provide cadastre data. This would greatly contribute to enrich the map of Montreal. If people are interested in contributing to this issue, please contact me. This is a good news for the community of free data, developers and all those who believe in a greater participation of citizens. The city of Montreal, by amending its license, contributes to develop an eco-system where OpenData creators OpenSource developpers, governments and citizens collectively contribute to enrich the information and dialogue. We should of course assure with the Import Workgroup that this license is compatible with OSM. We hope that this example will be followed by others, including the Government of Quebec and Quebec City. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Montréal v. Toronto :-)
Which Montréal-based OpenStreetMap contributors and developers will be coming to Toronto for the Hack Weekend (and to mock the Maple Leafs) ? It's only a quick trip along the autoroute. Please pass the Hack Weekend details along to your local groups of potentially-interested developers. Hey. Ottawa too. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Toronto_Hack_Weekend_March_2013 http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Toronto/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Minister Clement Hosts Canadian Government's First Google Hangout
Does anybody have more info about this? http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/media/nr-cp/2013/0301a-eng.asp Pierre ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Out of date or incomplete NRCan-CanVec-7.0 data
Folks I'm just a casual editor who cleans up things I know first hand in a few small towns and a small city.So I went to Landmark, Manitoba and saw an interesting, irregularly shaped out-of-date/incomplete polygon that was added. I don't recall seeing it when I last visited there several months ago but who knows. Residential Area - Source - NRCan-CanVec-7.0 This appears to display a shaded area on the user viewable map. The problem is that this is very much out of date or incomplete. Furthermore, for that village/hamlet it's mostly nonsense. Main street, which is the highway running north/south through Landmark is the commercial/industrial road through town although there are houses interspersed among the retail and commercial buildings and feed mill. Furthermore the residential area goes 1.5 blocks west and a few blocks east. So it might as well not even exist. Now judging on my memories of that village/hamlet it is probably at least ten years out of date. Does it serve any useful purpose? Is it safe to delete that polygon or will it come back on some re-import in the future. Tony ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal
Hi Paul Hi refer to the Import list to be more precise. For the translation, my contact at city of Montreal is telling me that they are preparing an english translation but this is not yet available. Below is my own translation of 4.1 and 4.2 Pierre 4.0 Source Indication 4.1 You must include and maintain the following notice on your copies, modifications, translations and distributions of data: Contains data reproduced, modified, translated or distributed as is with permission of the City of Montreal. 4.2 If a product contains value-added data, you must include the following opinion on this product: This product contains licensed data given as is in accordance with the license agreement for the use of data from the City of Montreal. The granting of the license is not an endorsement of the product by the City of Montreal. De : Paul Norman penor...@mac.com À : 'Pierre Béland' pierz...@yahoo.fr; 'talk-ca' talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mars 2013 15h58 Objet : RE: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal It’s good to see more municipalities opening up their data and open data catching on. Seeing more municipalities writing their own licenses isn’t so good. Now, on to the more practical questions needed to use the data. Could you provide a translation of 4.1 and 4.2 of their license? Are these identical to CC BY? One of the problems with CC BY is the vagueness of the attribution. Some cities regard our attribution as not meeting the CC BY attribution requirements, although I guess that isn’t an issue here because they’ve explicitly said it’s compatible with ODbL, so I have to assume that meeting the ODbL attribution requirements (met by listing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors) is sufficient for them. What’s the Import Workgroup you refer to? Lastly, cadastral data is probably the least exciting type of data for OSM. Other data like roads, addresses and even buildings is more useful. From:Pierre Béland [mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:05 AM To: talk-ca Subject: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal After consultation with thecommunity, the city of Montreal changed its OpenData license the28 February 2013. It is clearly stated on the page of the license: It is similar to a Creative Commons license CC-BY. For example, it is compatible with the more restrictive type ODbL licenses such as OpenStreetMap. See http://donnees.ville.montreal.qc.ca/licence/ On the Open Data day,Saturday, February 23, representatives of the city have also offered to provide cadastre data. This would greatly contribute to enrich the map of Montreal. If people are interested in contributing to this issue, please contact me. This is a good news for the community of free data, developers and all those who believe in a greater participation of citizens. The city of Montreal, by amending its license, contributes to develop an eco-system where OpenDatacreators OpenSource developpers, governments and citizens collectively contribute to enrich the information and dialogue. We should of course assure with the Import Workgroup that this license is compatible with OSM. We hope that this example will be followed by others, including the Government of Quebec and Quebec City. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
