[Talk-ca] ODbL compliant remapping

[James Ewen]

I'm still a little confused on how a user that does not accept the new
license can simply touch a node or way, and make it so that we have to
completely remove the data and recreate it.

vreimer seems to have touched a great deal of ways across Canada,
which sparked the banning of his account quite a while ago. He is
listed as being contacted, but we have never seen a response from this
user, at least that I know of.

I can understand that if the user modified a tag or something, that we
would only need to remove that modification. However I am seeing
things where a way from the GeoBase import has somehow been taken over
by this user. This means we need to strip out the way, and then
completely recreate the way.

Here's the deep diff page:

http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=51536611

Obviously this way was created by the GeoBase import robot, but
vreimer is shown as the creator.

I traced this rail line from the aerial photos years ago, but vreimer
is the creator of v1...

http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=51536149

I have to strip out my original work, and retrace the rail line yet
again. If after that, someone that does not agree with the license
comes along and touches it, then it will need to be stripped out
again, and retraced... seems kind of silly that we can't simply
touch it again, and reclaim the proper license.

-- 
James
VE6SRV

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Re: [Talk-ca] ODbL compliant remapping

[Tyler Gunn]

 vreimer seems to have touched a great deal of ways across Canada,
 which sparked the banning of his account quite a while ago. He is
 listed as being contacted, but we have never seen a response from this
 user, at least that I know of.


I think we need to review this on an almost case by case basis. I've
been working to clean up vreimer data in Winnipeg.  He was responsible
for mapping large areas of Winnipeg.  Looking at the data, and
comparing it to Canvec, Bing, etc its pretty clear he must have
sourced the data somewhere else.  In these cases I've been removing
his data entirely and replacing it with CanVec data which has been
improved using Bing.

However, that said, it IS a very laborious process, and there's still
large areas to go.

I know there's still a load of Vreimer data in Western MB, but for the
most part I think its safe to let that go and replace with Canvec.

I DO agree with you though, there are some roads in Winnipeg where
he's touched them since they were created, having made only minor
tagging changes.  It seems a shame to have to recreate this data.

Tyler

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