Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread James 
Why wouldn't this be added value to osm? Maybe not in your use case, but
for statistics, disaster relief and even routing this would be valuable to
have on the map.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you really want to add 300,000 building outline to the map?  If it was
> just the non residential ones I think that is reasonable but adding every
> residential house is adding less value.  Can we identify and omit the
> obvious single family homes?
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 3 Aug 2016 7:57 pm, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <
> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:
>
>> James,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for this. Comparing with what is already there and the new data
>> is definitely a major first step.
>>
>>
>>
>> For licensing, we are making sure to follow terms and conditions. So far,
>> footprints that we obtained are all cleared for use.
>>
>> Getting addresses is going to be part of the collection stage from
>> participants so we it will be in the fields people can fill out.
>>
>> Hopefully, it helps to complete what’s missing.
>>
>>
>>
>> We will make available about 300 000 buildings for Ottawa soon. Dave and
>> Mojgan suggested methodologies to do the import in segments.
>>
>> We can look into those as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bjenk
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* July-26-16 7:55 AM
>>
>> *To:* Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
>> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> For Gatineau, I've been manually tracing buildings via this project:
>>
>> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/1
>>
>> The yellow squares are the ones I completed in tracing the buildings, so
>> during the review stage, the work could be compared to what Gatineau gives
>> you to make sure everything is correct and not any missing buildings(old
>> Satellite imagery data)
>>
>> We could use
>> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/2
>>
>> For Ottawa, I've not started on this yet, as Gatineau has a lot of
>> buildings and I am not even near completing it.
>>
>> One of the major issues will be merging with the existing data, that's
>> why I think a tasking manager will be appropriate for the task. There is
>> also the licensing issue(I think you've covered this in the past).
>>
>> Gatineau currently has all address points in OSM so no need to combine
>> them with the buildings. Ottawa does not due to licensing issues.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <
>> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Hi James,
>>
>>
>>
>> We are working in partnerships with both municipalities of Ottawa and
>> Gatineau. So far, Ottawa has given us two files. One is a large buildings
>> file available through their open data portal. It contains about 16 000
>> building footprints.  The other is a larger file with over 300 000
>> buildings in it. That one contains footprints that are not on OSM after a
>> quick look through.
>>
>>
>>
>> John mentioned that the best way to make it available is through the TB
>> open data portal so I am going to look into that.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are talking with Gatineau and they will join the project. I will give
>> updates on how this is going.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
>>
>>
>>
>> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et
>> l’intégration de données (LEID)
>>
>> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur
>> les entreprises
>>
>> Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
>>
>> (343) 998-3004
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* July-18-16 4:58 PM
>> *To:* Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
>> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> Should be pretty easy on the Gatineau sode as all the address points are
>> there, as for Ottawa, not so much until they decide to change their license
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2016 11:28 AM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <
>> bjenk.ellef...@ca

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread john whelan 
Do you really want to add 300,000 building outline to the map?  If it was
just the non residential ones I think that is reasonable but adding every
residential house is adding less value.  Can we identify and omit the
obvious single family homes?

Cheerio John

On 3 Aug 2016 7:57 pm, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
wrote:

> James,
>
>
>
> Thank you for this. Comparing with what is already there and the new data
> is definitely a major first step.
>
>
>
> For licensing, we are making sure to follow terms and conditions. So far,
> footprints that we obtained are all cleared for use.
>
> Getting addresses is going to be part of the collection stage from
> participants so we it will be in the fields people can fill out.
>
> Hopefully, it helps to complete what’s missing.
>
>
>
> We will make available about 300 000 buildings for Ottawa soon. Dave and
> Mojgan suggested methodologies to do the import in segments.
>
> We can look into those as well.
>
>
>
> Bjenk
>
>
>
> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* July-26-16 7:55 AM
> *To:* Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada
>
>
>
> For Gatineau, I've been manually tracing buildings via this project:
>
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/1
>
> The yellow squares are the ones I completed in tracing the buildings, so
> during the review stage, the work could be compared to what Gatineau gives
> you to make sure everything is correct and not any missing buildings(old
> Satellite imagery data)
>
> We could use
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/2
>
> For Ottawa, I've not started on this yet, as Gatineau has a lot of
> buildings and I am not even near completing it.
>
> One of the major issues will be merging with the existing data, that's why
> I think a tasking manager will be appropriate for the task. There is also
> the licensing issue(I think you've covered this in the past).
>
> Gatineau currently has all address points in OSM so no need to combine
> them with the buildings. Ottawa does not due to licensing issues.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <
> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
>
>
> We are working in partnerships with both municipalities of Ottawa and
> Gatineau. So far, Ottawa has given us two files. One is a large buildings
> file available through their open data portal. It contains about 16 000
> building footprints.  The other is a larger file with over 300 000
> buildings in it. That one contains footprints that are not on OSM after a
> quick look through.
>
>
>
> John mentioned that the best way to make it available is through the TB
> open data portal so I am going to look into that.
>
>
>
> We are talking with Gatineau and they will join the project. I will give
> updates on how this is going.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
>
>
>
> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et
> l’intégration de données (LEID)
>
> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les
> entreprises
>
> Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
>
> (343) 998-3004
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* July-18-16 4:58 PM
> *To:* Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada
>
>
>
> Should be pretty easy on the Gatineau sode as all the address points are
> there, as for Ottawa, not so much until they decide to change their license
>
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2016 11:28 AM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <
> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:
>
> Dear members of the Board of Directors,
>
>
>
> My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and
> Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.
>
>
>
> I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada
> initiated a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of
> data crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.
>
>
>
> We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting
> contributors to crowdsource information on non-residential buildings
> (footprints, addresses and simple building attributes). The pilot project
> will focus on the Ottawa-Gatineau region.
>
>
>
> We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people
>

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) 
James,

Thank you for this. Comparing with what is already there and the new data is 
definitely a major first step.

For licensing, we are making sure to follow terms and conditions. So far, 
footprints that we obtained are all cleared for use.
Getting addresses is going to be part of the collection stage from participants 
so we it will be in the fields people can fill out.
Hopefully, it helps to complete what’s missing.

We will make available about 300 000 buildings for Ottawa soon. Dave and Mojgan 
suggested methodologies to do the import in segments.
We can look into those as well.

Bjenk

From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: July-26-16 7:55 AM
To: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

For Gatineau, I've been manually tracing buildings via this project:

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/1
The yellow squares are the ones I completed in tracing the buildings, so during 
the review stage, the work could be compared to what Gatineau gives you to make 
sure everything is correct and not any missing buildings(old Satellite imagery 
data)
We could use
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/2
For Ottawa, I've not started on this yet, as Gatineau has a lot of buildings 
and I am not even near completing it.
One of the major issues will be merging with the existing data, that's why I 
think a tasking manager will be appropriate for the task. There is also the 
licensing issue(I think you've covered this in the past).
Gatineau currently has all address points in OSM so no need to combine them 
with the buildings. Ottawa does not due to licensing issues.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) 
<bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>> wrote:
Hi James,

We are working in partnerships with both municipalities of Ottawa and Gatineau. 
So far, Ottawa has given us two files. One is a large buildings file available 
through their open data portal. It contains about 16 000 building footprints.  
The other is a larger file with over 300 000 buildings in it. That one contains 
footprints that are not on OSM after a quick look through.

John mentioned that the best way to make it available is through the TB open 
data portal so I am going to look into that.

We are talking with Gatineau and they will join the project. I will give 
updates on how this is going.


Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et 
l’intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les 
entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
(343) 998-3004<tel:%28343%29%20998-3004>



From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com<mailto:james2...@gmail.com>]
Sent: July-18-16 4:58 PM
To: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) 
<bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>>
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
<talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada


Should be pretty easy on the Gatineau sode as all the address points are there, 
as for Ottawa, not so much until they decide to change their license

On Jul 18, 2016 11:28 AM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" 
<bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>> wrote:
Dear members of the Board of Directors,

My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and 
Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.

I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada initiated 
a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of data 
crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.

We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting contributors to 
crowdsource information on non-residential buildings (footprints, addresses and 
simple building attributes). The pilot project will focus on the 
Ottawa-Gatineau region.

We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people from 
five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities of Ottawa 
and Gatineau.

In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul Norman. 
At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have done quite a 
lot of background research and planning since then (although much learning 
remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a proof of concept 
proposal and, from there, into the current project.

Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local 
(Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in the 
coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.

This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There are 
a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about (including the IT 
dimension, communic

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-26 Thread James 
For Gatineau, I've been manually tracing buildings via this project:

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/1
The yellow squares are the ones I completed in tracing the buildings, so
during the review stage, the work could be compared to what Gatineau gives
you to make sure everything is correct and not any missing buildings(old
Satellite imagery data)

We could use
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/2
For Ottawa, I've not started on this yet, as Gatineau has a lot of
buildings and I am not even near completing it.

One of the major issues will be merging with the existing data, that's why
I think a tasking manager will be appropriate for the task. There is also
the licensing issue(I think you've covered this in the past).

Gatineau currently has all address points in OSM so no need to combine them
with the buildings. Ottawa does not due to licensing issues.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <
bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:

> Hi James,
>
>
>
> We are working in partnerships with both municipalities of Ottawa and
> Gatineau. So far, Ottawa has given us two files. One is a large buildings
> file available through their open data portal. It contains about 16 000
> building footprints.  The other is a larger file with over 300 000
> buildings in it. That one contains footprints that are not on OSM after a
> quick look through.
>
>
>
> John mentioned that the best way to make it available is through the TB
> open data portal so I am going to look into that.
>
>
>
> We are talking with Gatineau and they will join the project. I will give
> updates on how this is going.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
>
>
>
> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et
> l’intégration de données (LEID)
>
> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les
> entreprises
>
> Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
>
> (343) 998-3004
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* July-18-16 4:58 PM
> *To:* Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada
>
>
>
> Should be pretty easy on the Gatineau sode as all the address points are
> there, as for Ottawa, not so much until they decide to change their license
>
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2016 11:28 AM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <
> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:
>
> Dear members of the Board of Directors,
>
>
>
> My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and
> Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.
>
>
>
> I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada
> initiated a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of
> data crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.
>
>
>
> We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting
> contributors to crowdsource information on non-residential buildings
> (footprints, addresses and simple building attributes). The pilot project
> will focus on the Ottawa-Gatineau region.
>
>
>
> We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people
> from five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities
> of Ottawa and Gatineau.
>
>
>
> In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul
> Norman. At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have
> done quite a lot of background research and planning since then (although
> much learning remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a
> proof of concept proposal and, from there, into the current project.
>
>
>
> Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local
> (Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in
> the coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.
>
>
>
> This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There
> are a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about
> (including the IT dimension, communications,  legal aspects, etc.).
>
>
>
> For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and
> much curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a
> reality but, as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess
> its potential from the perspective of a national statistical office.
>
>
>
> One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is
> championing the innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen
> interest in this project. At some point, we would like to have an
>

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-25 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) 
Hi James,

We are working in partnerships with both municipalities of Ottawa and Gatineau. 
So far, Ottawa has given us two files. One is a large buildings file available 
through their open data portal. It contains about 16 000 building footprints.  
The other is a larger file with over 300 000 buildings in it. That one contains 
footprints that are not on OSM after a quick look through.

John mentioned that the best way to make it available is through the TB open 
data portal so I am going to look into that.

We are talking with Gatineau and they will join the project. I will give 
updates on how this is going.


Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et 
l’intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les 
entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
(343) 998-3004



From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: July-18-16 4:58 PM
To: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada


Should be pretty easy on the Gatineau sode as all the address points are there, 
as for Ottawa, not so much until they decide to change their license

On Jul 18, 2016 11:28 AM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" 
<bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>> wrote:
Dear members of the Board of Directors,

My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and 
Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.

I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada initiated 
a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of data 
crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.

We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting contributors to 
crowdsource information on non-residential buildings (footprints, addresses and 
simple building attributes). The pilot project will focus on the 
Ottawa-Gatineau region.

We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people from 
five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities of Ottawa 
and Gatineau.

In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul Norman. 
At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have done quite a 
lot of background research and planning since then (although much learning 
remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a proof of concept 
proposal and, from there, into the current project.

Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local 
(Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in the 
coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.

This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There are 
a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about (including the IT 
dimension, communications,  legal aspects, etc.).

For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and much 
curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a reality but, 
as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess its potential from 
the perspective of a national statistical office.

One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is championing the 
innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen interest in this project. 
At some point, we would like to have an “institutional” meeting between 
Statistics Canada and OSM (although I am not quite sure in which shape and form 
this can take place). I am open to your suggestions.

I am copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who will 
follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on Talk-Ca.

I look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on this 
project.

I will soon write more about the project!

Regards,



Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et 
l’intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les 
entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
(343) 998-3004<tel:%28343%29%20998-3004>




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Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-19 Thread john whelan 
Until Stats Canada decide what tags they're after I don't think we can do
much.  They are aware of the Happy Goat by the way, but not when you meet.

Postcodes will be interesting.  There are three types, conventional ones,
rural ones and Federal Government department ones.  The first two are
attached to a physical building, the last one is not.  If the department
moves offices it retains the same postcode.  Also Federal Government
offices in Gatineau have a postcode that resembles an Ottawa postcode all
their mail goes through Ottawa sorting office rather than Montreal which is
the case for everyone else in Gatineau.  One reason is most of it is
interdepartmental.

So will Stats Canada want the physical building postcode or the
departmental one?

So far for everything I’ve seen that they would like there is an existing
example in OSM.  They would like to add more data using either OSM mappers
or volunteers, something like the HOT system.  So no problems there from
our point of view.

I’ve seen a suggestion that they may wish to import some data to OSM and
they are aware of the rules to follow.

At the moment I think their biggest problem maybe the number of different
ways that we tag data to show the same thing.  For example in Gatineau
every address is there, but has the address been associated with the
amenity=café that is also there.

Another issue is the data quality is uneven, in some parts of Ottawa every
store in a mall has been mapped.  In other areas either no one has mapped
them yet or they were mapped but not recently so the names maybe out of
date.

As Heather mentioned it will be interesting to see what unfolds.

Cheerio John

On 19 July 2016 at 07:38, John Marshall  wrote:

> I'm a local OSM mapper in Ottawa, how can I help?
>
> John Marshall
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:16 AM, James  wrote:
>
>> Stewart that lawsuit was dropped, mostly because canada post knew they
>> couldnt copyright a postal code and also they would have to sue every
>> online retailer as they have to collect postal code data of their clients
>> to be able to ship their products
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2016 10:11 PM, "Stewart C. Russell"  wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-07-18 04:08 PM, john whelan wrote:
>>> >
>>> > … for the pilot what they would like
>>> > is a few tags adding to existing buildings.  These would be things such
>>> > as postcode
>>>
>>> Ooh, lemme order popcorn so I can watch Canada Post sue Statistics
>>> Canada for use of "their" precious codes ...
>>>
>>>  Stewart
>>>
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Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-19 Thread John Marshall 
I'm a local OSM mapper in Ottawa, how can I help?

John Marshall

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 7:16 AM, James  wrote:

> Stewart that lawsuit was dropped, mostly because canada post knew they
> couldnt copyright a postal code and also they would have to sue every
> online retailer as they have to collect postal code data of their clients
> to be able to ship their products
>
> On Jul 18, 2016 10:11 PM, "Stewart C. Russell"  wrote:
>
>> On 2016-07-18 04:08 PM, john whelan wrote:
>> >
>> > … for the pilot what they would like
>> > is a few tags adding to existing buildings.  These would be things such
>> > as postcode
>>
>> Ooh, lemme order popcorn so I can watch Canada Post sue Statistics
>> Canada for use of "their" precious codes ...
>>
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Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-19 Thread James 
Stewart that lawsuit was dropped, mostly because canada post knew they
couldnt copyright a postal code and also they would have to sue every
online retailer as they have to collect postal code data of their clients
to be able to ship their products

On Jul 18, 2016 10:11 PM, "Stewart C. Russell"  wrote:

> On 2016-07-18 04:08 PM, john whelan wrote:
> >
> > … for the pilot what they would like
> > is a few tags adding to existing buildings.  These would be things such
> > as postcode
>
> Ooh, lemme order popcorn so I can watch Canada Post sue Statistics
> Canada for use of "their" precious codes ...
>
>  Stewart
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread Heather Leson 
Hi

Maybe the osm ca community could set up an adhoc call or working group to
see how this can help all your efforts?

I'm not in Canada for the foreseeable future and don't have the bandwidth
but this might be a good way to build the relationship.

Excited to see how it plays out.

Heather

On 19 Jul 2016 05:11, "Stewart C. Russell"  wrote:

> On 2016-07-18 04:08 PM, john whelan wrote:
> >
> > … for the pilot what they would like
> > is a few tags adding to existing buildings.  These would be things such
> > as postcode
>
> Ooh, lemme order popcorn so I can watch Canada Post sue Statistics
> Canada for use of "their" precious codes ...
>
>  Stewart
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread Stewart C. Russell 
On 2016-07-18 04:08 PM, john whelan wrote:
> 
> … for the pilot what they would like
> is a few tags adding to existing buildings.  These would be things such
> as postcode

Ooh, lemme order popcorn so I can watch Canada Post sue Statistics
Canada for use of "their" precious codes ...

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Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread James 
Should be pretty easy on the Gatineau sode as all the address points are
there, as for Ottawa, not so much until they decide to change their license

On Jul 18, 2016 11:28 AM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <
bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:

> Dear members of the Board of Directors,
>
> My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and
> Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.
>
> I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada
> initiated a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of
> data crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.
>
> We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting
> contributors to crowdsource information on non-residential buildings
> (footprints, addresses and simple building attributes). The pilot project
> will focus on the Ottawa-Gatineau region.
>
> We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people
> from five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities
> of Ottawa and Gatineau.
>
> In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul
> Norman. At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have
> done quite a lot of background research and planning since then (although
> much learning remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a
> proof of concept proposal and, from there, into the current project.
>
> Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local
> (Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in
> the coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.
>
> This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There
> are a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about
> (including the IT dimension, communications,  legal aspects, etc.).
>
> For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and
> much curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a
> reality but, as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess
> its potential from the perspective of a national statistical office.
>
> One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is
> championing the innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen
> interest in this project. At some point, we would like to have an
> “institutional” meeting between Statistics Canada and OSM (although I am
> not quite sure in which shape and form this can take place). I am open to
> your suggestions.
>
> I am copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who
> will follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on
> Talk-Ca.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on
> this project.
>
> I will soon write more about the project!
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
>
> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et
> l’intégration de données (LEID)
> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les
> entreprises
> Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
> (343) 998-3004
>
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread john whelan 
I suspect that Stats Canada has an official party line and Bjenk's email
shows all the signs of a press release.

I've met with some of the people involved and my impression is that some
managers find the idea that OpenStreetMap does not have a CEO who makes
decisions very difficult to accept.

However the impression I got is that for the pilot what they would like is
a few tags adding to existing buildings.  These would be things such as
postcode and the number of stories using tags that are already in wide use
within OSM.  Having said that different people within Stats Canada probably
have their own ideas and part of Bjenk's role will be to reconcile
everything together.

Cheerio John
On 18 Jul 2016 12:51 pm, "Pierre Béland" <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Bonjour Bjenk
>
> Les contributeurs de certains pays ont des organisations plus structurées,
> ce qui n'est pas le cas au Canada.
>
> La coordination des contributeurs canadiens se fait via cette liste-ci
> (ie. discussion et coordonnation) et via divers groupes locaux tels Ottawa,
> Toronto, Montréal, Québec, etc.
>
> Le mieux est de présenter vos projets sur la liste et inviter les groupes
> intéressés à vous contacter.
>
> Les contributeurs s'intéressent à diverses problématiques et pourraient
> par exemple vous proposer d'intégrer des informations relatives aux types
> d'accès aux immeubles publics par les handicapés.
>
>
> Pierre
>
>
> --
> *De :* john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
> *À :* "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
> *Cc :* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
> *Envoyé le :* lundi 18 juillet 2016 12h07
> *Objet :* Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada
>
> >Board of Directors
>
> I don't think there is such a thing on talk-ca.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 18 July 2016 at 11:27, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <
> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:
>
> Dear members of the Board of Directors,
>
> My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and
> Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.
>
> I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada
> initiated a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of
> data crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.
>
> We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting
> contributors to crowdsource information on non-residential buildings
> (footprints, addresses and simple building attributes). The pilot project
> will focus on the Ottawa-Gatineau region.
>
> We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people
> from five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities
> of Ottawa and Gatineau.
>
> In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul
> Norman. At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have
> done quite a lot of background research and planning since then (although
> much learning remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a
> proof of concept proposal and, from there, into the current project.
>
> Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local
> (Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in
> the coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.
>
> This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There
> are a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about
> (including the IT dimension, communications,  legal aspects, etc.).
>
> For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and
> much curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a
> reality but, as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess
> its potential from the perspective of a national statistical office.
>
> One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is
> championing the innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen
> interest in this project. At some point, we would like to have an
> “institutional” meeting between Statistics Canada and OSM (although I am
> not quite sure in which shape and form this can take place). I am open to
> your suggestions.
>
> I am copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who
> will follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on
> Talk-Ca.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on
> this project.
>
> I will soon write more about the project!
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
>
> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et
&

Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) 
Pierre,

Merci de l’information. Je suivrai cette semaine avec plus de détails.

Je trouve l’idée d’informations sur les types d’accès intéressante. Je décrirai 
les informations de bases que Statistique Canada voudrait recueillir et les 
suggestions seront bienvenues !

Bjenk

From: Pierre Béland [mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr]
Sent: July-18-16 12:47 PM
To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
Cc: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

Bonjour Bjenk


Les contributeurs de certains pays ont des organisations plus structurées, ce 
qui n'est pas le cas au Canada.


La coordination des contributeurs canadiens se fait via cette liste-ci (ie. 
discussion et coordonnation) et via divers groupes locaux tels Ottawa, Toronto, 
Montréal, Québec, etc.



Le mieux est de présenter vos projets sur la liste et inviter les groupes 
intéressés à vous contacter.


Les contributeurs s'intéressent à diverses problématiques et pourraient par 
exemple vous proposer d'intégrer des informations relatives aux types d'accès 
aux immeubles publics par les handicapés.



Pierre


De : john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com<mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>>
À : "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" 
<bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>>
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
<talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>>
Envoyé le : lundi 18 juillet 2016 12h07
Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

>Board of Directors
I don't think there is such a thing on talk-ca.
Cheerio John

On 18 July 2016 at 11:27, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) 
<bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>> wrote:
Dear members of the Board of Directors,

My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and 
Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.

I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada initiated 
a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of data 
crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.

We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting contributors to 
crowdsource information on non-residential buildings (footprints, addresses and 
simple building attributes). The pilot project will focus on the 
Ottawa-Gatineau region.

We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people from 
five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities of Ottawa 
and Gatineau.

In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul Norman. 
At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have done quite a 
lot of background research and planning since then (although much learning 
remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a proof of concept 
proposal and, from there, into the current project.

Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local 
(Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in the 
coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.

This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There are 
a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about (including the IT 
dimension, communications,  legal aspects, etc.).

For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and much 
curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a reality but, 
as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess its potential from 
the perspective of a national statistical office.

One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is championing the 
innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen interest in this project. 
At some point, we would like to have an “institutional” meeting between 
Statistics Canada and OSM (although I am not quite sure in which shape and form 
this can take place). I am open to your suggestions.

I am copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who will 
follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on Talk-Ca.

I look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on this 
project.

I will soon write more about the project!

Regards,



Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et 
l’intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les 
entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
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Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) 
As noted by John,

The message should have read, dear members of the OSM community!

☺

Bjenk

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À : "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" 
<bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>>
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
<talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>>
Envoyé le : lundi 18 juillet 2016 12h07
Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

>Board of Directors
I don't think there is such a thing on talk-ca.
Cheerio John

On 18 July 2016 at 11:27, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) 
<bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>> wrote:
Dear members of the Board of Directors,

My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and 
Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.

I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada initiated 
a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of data 
crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.

We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting contributors to 
crowdsource information on non-residential buildings (footprints, addresses and 
simple building attributes). The pilot project will focus on the 
Ottawa-Gatineau region.

We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people from 
five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities of Ottawa 
and Gatineau.

In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul Norman. 
At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have done quite a 
lot of background research and planning since then (although much learning 
remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a proof of concept 
proposal and, from there, into the current project.

Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local 
(Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in the 
coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.

This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There are 
a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about (including the IT 
dimension, communications,  legal aspects, etc.).

For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and much 
curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a reality but, 
as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess its potential from 
the perspective of a national statistical office.

One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is championing the 
innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen interest in this project. 
At some point, we would like to have an “institutional” meeting between 
Statistics Canada and OSM (although I am not quite sure in which shape and form 
this can take place). I am open to your suggestions.

I am copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who will 
follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on Talk-Ca.

I look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on this 
project.

I will soon write more about the project!

Regards,



Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et 
l’intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les 
entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
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Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread Pierre Béland 
Bonjour Bjenk
Les contributeurs de certains pays ont des organisations plus structurées, ce 
qui n'est pas le cas au Canada.
La coordination des contributeurs canadiens se fait via cette liste-ci (ie. 
discussion et coordonnation) et via divers groupes locaux tels Ottawa, Toronto, 
Montréal, Québec, etc.  

Le mieux est de présenter vos projets sur la liste et inviter les groupes 
intéressés à vous contacter.
Les contributeurs s'intéressent à diverses problématiques et pourraient par 
exemple vous proposer d'intégrer des informations relatives aux types d'accès 
aux immeubles publics par les handicapés.
 
 
Pierre 


  De : john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
 À : "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> 
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
 Envoyé le : lundi 18 juillet 2016 12h07
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada
   
>Board of Directors

I don't think there is such a thing on talk-ca.

Cheerio John

On 18 July 2016 at 11:27, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> 
wrote:

Dear members of the Board of Directors, My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working 
for the Data Exploration and Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.  I am 
writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada initiated a 
two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of data 
crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.  We are planning to use OpenStreetMap 
as a platform for inviting contributors to crowdsource information on 
non-residential buildings (footprints, addresses and simple building 
attributes). The pilot project will focus on the Ottawa-Gatineau region.  We 
have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people from 
five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities of Ottawa 
and Gatineau.  In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke 
with Paul Norman. At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We 
have done quite a lot of background research and planning since then (although 
much learning remains to be done).The preliminary idea has evolved in a proof 
of concept proposal and, from there, into the current project.  Earlier this 
month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local (Canada/Ottawa) 
OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in the coming months by 
engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.  This pilot project is a major 
innovative undertaking for our Agency. There are a multitude of aspects that we 
need to assess and learn about (including the IT dimension, communications,  
legal aspects, etc.).  For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about 
the project and much curiosity from senior management. We know that 
crowdsourcing is a reality but, as far as I know, there has been no other 
attempt to assess its potential from the perspectiveof a national statistical 
office. One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is 
championing the innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen interest 
in this project. At some point, we would like to have an “institutional” 
meeting between Statistics Canada andOSM (although I am not quite sure in which 
shape and form this can take place). I am open to your suggestions.   I am 
copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who will 
follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on Talk-Ca.  I 
look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on this 
project.   I will soon write more about the project! Regards,   Bjenk Ellefsen, 
PhD Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et 
l’intégration de données (LEID)Center for Special Business Projects | Centre 
des Projets Spéciaux sur les entreprisesStatistics Canada | Statistique 
Canada(343) 998-3004   
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Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada

2016-07-18 Thread john whelan 
>Board of Directors

I don't think there is such a thing on talk-ca.

Cheerio John

On 18 July 2016 at 11:27, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <
bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:

> Dear members of the Board of Directors,
>
> My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and
> Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.
>
> I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada
> initiated a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of
> data crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.
>
> We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting
> contributors to crowdsource information on non-residential buildings
> (footprints, addresses and simple building attributes). The pilot project
> will focus on the Ottawa-Gatineau region.
>
> We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people
> from five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities
> of Ottawa and Gatineau.
>
> In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul
> Norman. At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have
> done quite a lot of background research and planning since then (although
> much learning remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a
> proof of concept proposal and, from there, into the current project.
>
> Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local
> (Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in
> the coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.
>
> This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There
> are a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about
> (including the IT dimension, communications,  legal aspects, etc.).
>
> For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and
> much curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a
> reality but, as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess
> its potential from the perspective of a national statistical office.
>
> One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is
> championing the innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen
> interest in this project. At some point, we would like to have an
> “institutional” meeting between Statistics Canada and OSM (although I am
> not quite sure in which shape and form this can take place). I am open to
> your suggestions.
>
> I am copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who
> will follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on
> Talk-Ca.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on
> this project.
>
> I will soon write more about the project!
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
>
> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et
> l’intégration de données (LEID)
> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les
> entreprises
> Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
> (343) 998-3004
>
>
>
>
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