Re: [Talk-GB] Uk Missing Major Roads.
On 26 Aug 2009, at 10:08, Chris Hill wrote: The orange (maybe brownish) roads can be secondary, tertiary or unclassified. I've compared the NPE roads to some roads that I know well and they cover what I would say are secondary, tertiary or unclassified. Secondary have reference numbers. The NPE maps are available as a background to Potlatch and you can zoom in a little further and trace directly over them. For your information When I copied from NPE in Suffolk and Essex I always used the highway=road;source=NPE tagging to indicate where it came from and that it needed a local review. I wouldn't copy references for roads (reference and classification changes) and where the join a road that didn't exist on NPE I leave a gap between the NPE traced road and the new road to avoid guessing if the road does or does not join to the bypass or whatever. Others then review the road classification and references based on their local knowledge and change the tagging to tertiary etc. Basically the only assumption I was making was that if there was a road there in 1945 there is probably a road there now and it geometry does not need to be resurveyed but everything else does need a review. Possibly adding the review=no tag would be helpful. Regards, Peter Cheers, Chris Peter Childs wrote: I was trying to fill in a few gaps in what I thought was where by looking at the Out Of Copyright OS Maps at http://www.npemap.org.uk Would it be right to suggest that all Orange Roads on this old map (should they still exist) including any obvious diversions are either Secondary (and should have numbers), or Tertrary Roads. and should be on OSM as such. Scales is far too small to trace but it might be useful for checking classification, and finding a few missing roads Did not find what I wanted as it was not there back in 1940, So I'm going to have to get out and do it on the ground instead :) (Does the Village on the map between Meopham, Sole Street, A2 and Southfleet and Sole Street have a name?) If this is a silly idea you can all shout at once. Peter. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?
On 20 Aug 2009, at 13:21, Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/8/17 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com: I'll start the imports tomorrow. I think it'd be wise to spread them around the country so one group of people aren't entirely swamped with several counties. As such, I'll start with Hull, Greater London and Suffolk, mostly picked based on the impression of eagerness for this to happen in those regions to begin. Shall we continue with Hull and Suffolk now? I see that there are another 16 counties where a NaPTAN import has been requested[1]. Personally I have found the Suffolk data to be very helpful and would recommend that we get on with it. There is a Baslidon mapping party in Essex coming up and it would be great for them to have the data in first. We did spot one gremlin in the source data in the formatting of change versioning which resulted in a small number of excess stops being imported. We have discussed this with the DfT/Traveline and they will get it fixed at some point but lets not wait for that. Can you do a work round Thomas? If not I would suggest we get on with it anyway as any issues will be picked up on the ground survey anyway. Am I right in assuming we are only importing bus stops on this pass? I notice that some ferry terminals were not imported in Suffolk - not a problem but it would be good to get the railways entrances, ferry terminals tram stops and indeed the ATCO codes for railways stations etc in at some point. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Request_for_Import Regards, Peter -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Edinburgh Meetups: Glasgow Central Scotland
Hi, Kick starting a place for regular meetups in Edinburgh I have added some basic information about people getting together in Edinburgh http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Mapping_Parties The main aim of this is to get more people to add the catagory Users in Edinburgh to their profile so that it is easier to let them know if there is a meetup in Edinburgh. After that I hope to organise a monthly or bimonthly meeting for Edinburgh, if successful then meetups in Glasgow and Central Scotland. I hope to use the calendar feature of the wiki as the local schedule Please send your thoughts to me or edit the wiki Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?
2009/8/26 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 20 Aug 2009, at 13:21, Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/8/17 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com: I'll start the imports tomorrow. I think it'd be wise to spread them around the country so one group of people aren't entirely swamped with several counties. As such, I'll start with Hull, Greater London and Suffolk, mostly picked based on the impression of eagerness for this to happen in those regions to begin. Shall we continue with Hull and Suffolk now? I see that there are another 16 counties where a NaPTAN import has been requested[1]. Personally I have found the Suffolk data to be very helpful and would recommend that we get on with it. There is a Baslidon mapping party in Essex coming up and it would be great for them to have the data in first. Yes, yesterday I was fixing a bug in the software that caused some of the Suffolk StopAreas to not upload at all, they will be going live today (there's not very many). We did spot one gremlin in the source data in the formatting of change versioning which resulted in a small number of excess stops being imported. We have discussed this with the DfT/Traveline and they will get it fixed at some point but lets not wait for that. Can you do a work round Thomas? If not I would suggest we get on with it anyway as any issues will be picked up on the ground survey anyway. I am not able to work around it, as the bug is in the source data I downloaded. On a review of more recent data, it appears that it was just that one download that had the issue. Downloading the data again should rectify the problem for future downloads. Am I right in assuming we are only importing bus stops on this pass? I notice that some ferry terminals were not imported in Suffolk - not a problem but it would be good to get the railways entrances, ferry terminals tram stops and indeed the ATCO codes for railways stations etc in at some point. Yes, we were going to do the rest in a separate pass. Regarding recent discussions on accuracy of railway station data, eg (http://googlemapsfail.tumblr.com/post/170424479/only-one-of-these-is-really-a-railway-station), I'm assuming this data is sourced from NaPTAN, so care will be needed with that import. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Request_for_Import Regards, Peter -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Cycle Map - without the cycleway?
I'd like to use the OSM Cycle Map rendering at different zoom levels as the base layer for a project I'm doing, but I want to overlay something else, and the emphasised cycleways in large red lines are both obliterating some of the detail I need. and would distract from my own overlay. If it wasn't for the cycleways the map would be perfect for what I need. Is it possible (and if so how?) to get a map rendered like the Cycle Map, but without the cycleways? Mario ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Edinburgh Meetups: Glasgow Central Scotland
Hi Bob, Sounds like a good idea. I organized a meetup in Glasgow back in Feb '08. There were a few Edinburgh people came through but in the end there weren't as many people came as had posted to the list or on the wiki (there were only 4 of us in the end I think). Despite the poor turnout was good to put some faces to the edits. Since then I've not done much mapping but am going to start to try to get back on top of things. I'd try to make it along to anything organized in Glasgow. Regards, ~ Callum On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Bob Kerropenstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi, Kick starting a place for regular meetups in Edinburgh I have added some basic information about people getting together in Edinburgh http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Mapping_Parties The main aim of this is to get more people to add the catagory Users in Edinburgh to their profile so that it is easier to let them know if there is a meetup in Edinburgh. After that I hope to organise a monthly or bimonthly meeting for Edinburgh, if successful then meetups in Glasgow and Central Scotland. I hope to use the calendar feature of the wiki as the local schedule Please send your thoughts to me or edit the wiki Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Cycle Map - without the cycleway?
2009/8/26 WessexMario wessexmario-...@yahoo.co.uk: I'd like to use the OSM Cycle Map rendering at different zoom levels as the base layer for a project I'm doing, but I want to overlay something else, and the emphasised cycleways in large red lines are both obliterating some of the detail I need. and would distract from my own overlay. If it wasn't for the cycleways the map would be perfect for what I need. Is it possible (and if so how?) to get a map rendered like the Cycle Map, but without the cycleways? Mario The Cloudmade map style editor might be able to do it, but perhaps it doesn't have fine grained enough control. Try it out. http://maps.cloudmade.com/editor -- Matt Williams http://milliams.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?
2009/8/26 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com: 2009/8/26 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 20 Aug 2009, at 13:21, Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/8/17 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com: I'll start the imports tomorrow. I think it'd be wise to spread them around the country so one group of people aren't entirely swamped with several counties. As such, I'll start with Hull, Greater London and Suffolk, mostly picked based on the impression of eagerness for this to happen in those regions to begin. Shall we continue with Hull and Suffolk now? I see that there are another 16 counties where a NaPTAN import has been requested[1]. Personally I have found the Suffolk data to be very helpful and would recommend that we get on with it. There is a Baslidon mapping party in Essex coming up and it would be great for them to have the data in first. Yes, yesterday I was fixing a bug in the software that caused some of the Suffolk StopAreas to not upload at all, they will be going live today (there's not very many). At least I would have, if the dev server was being co-operative. I can't install a python module that the new revision of the upload script requires. Regarding remaining counties, Essex is definately a priority, we may as well just upload the remaining counties as and when we can. (Which'll probably be when the new dev server is up with a sane python environment) -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Cycle Map - without the cycleway?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:57 PM, WessexMariowessexmario-...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I'd like to use the OSM Cycle Map rendering at different zoom levels as the base layer for a project I'm doing, but I want to overlay something else, and the emphasised cycleways in large red lines are both obliterating some of the detail I need. and would distract from my own overlay. If it wasn't for the cycleways the map would be perfect for what I need. Is it possible (and if so how?) to get a map rendered like the Cycle Map, but without the cycleways? I don't think there's anyone offering a tile download service for just contours and hillshading, so you'll probably need to render your own. For contours, the info you need is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contours Also useful info at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HikingBikingMaps Dave ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?
Thomas Wood wrote: [] Regarding remaining counties, Essex is definitely a priority, we may as well just upload the remaining counties as and when we can. (Which'll probably be when the new dev server is up with a sane python environment) Good, thanks for that - I am hoping to go round my bit of the world check them out as I didn't do them on my Grand GPS Survey 2 years ago, so having them as targets may provoke some activity :) Also, yes they will be nice for the Basildon Mapping Party, it will be a strange experience to have residential areas, parks bus stops but no roads on the Garmin ;) Mark ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?
On 26 Aug 2009, at 18:46, Mark Williams wrote: Thomas Wood wrote: [] Regarding remaining counties, Essex is definitely a priority, we may as well just upload the remaining counties as and when we can. (Which'll probably be when the new dev server is up with a sane python environment) Good, thanks for that - I am hoping to go round my bit of the world check them out as I didn't do them on my Grand GPS Survey 2 years ago, so having them as targets may provoke some activity :) I have certainly picked up some useful issues while reviewing the areas. Additional paths, letter boxes etc. Also, yes they will be nice for the Basildon Mapping Party, it will be a strange experience to have residential areas, parks bus stops but no roads on the Garmin ;) Have you seen this bit of Italy where one part of the Italian government has released all the building outlines, but there are still no roads? It looks strangely like a map of a roman town for some reason.[1] [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.92635lon=12.73679zoom=16layers=B000FTF Regards, Peter Mark ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Edinburgh Meetups: Glasgow Central Scotland
On 26/08/09 16:29, Callum Noble wrote: Hi Bob, Sounds like a good idea. I organized a meetup in Glasgow back in Feb '08. There were a few Edinburgh people came through but in the end there weren't as many people came as had posted to the list or on the wiki (there were only 4 of us in the end I think). Despite the poor turnout was good to put some faces to the edits. Since then I've not done much mapping but am going to start to try to get back on top of things. I'd try to make it along to anything organized in Glasgow. I was trying to figure out when that was, I remember there were 4 or 5 of us. It woll be well worth getting together and look at organising some mapping parties outside of the cities. Cheers Chris On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Bob Kerropenstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi, Kick starting a place for regular meetups in Edinburgh I have added some basic information about people getting together in Edinburgh http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Mapping_Parties The main aim of this is to get more people to add the catagory Users in Edinburgh to their profile so that it is easier to let them know if there is a meetup in Edinburgh. After that I hope to organise a monthly or bimonthly meeting for Edinburgh, if successful then meetups in Glasgow and Central Scotland. I hope to use the calendar feature of the wiki as the local schedule Please send your thoughts to me or edit the wiki Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Edinburgh Meetups: Glasgow Central Scotland
On 27 Aug 2009, at 00:15, Chris Fleming wrote: On 26/08/09 16:29, Callum Noble wrote: Hi Bob, Sounds like a good idea. I organized a meetup in Glasgow back in Feb '08. There were a few Edinburgh people came through but in the end there weren't as many people came as had posted to the list or on the wiki (there were only 4 of us in the end I think). Despite the poor turnout was good to put some faces to the edits. Since then I've not done much mapping but am going to start to try to get back on top of things. I'd try to make it along to anything organized in Glasgow. I was trying to figure out when that was, I remember there were 4 or 5 of us. It woll be well worth getting together and look at organising some mapping parties outside of the cities. According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Past_Events_2008 there was one on 25th Feb 2008 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=WikiProject_Scotlandoldid=81610 is the version of the page with the pub meet info. I'm needing a good excuse to take a little holiday up there in some fresh air. ;-) If I remember correct, that was one of those days I got into Glasgow early and lost the data from my wander around some of the city centre streets collecting data. And it wasn't the day I was mad enough to cycle the whole way back home: http://blog.shaunmcdonald.me.uk/2007/07/cycling-glasgow-to-edinburgh/ Shaun Cheers Chris On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Bob Kerropenstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi, Kick starting a place for regular meetups in Edinburgh I have added some basic information about people getting together in Edinburgh http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Mapping_Parties The main aim of this is to get more people to add the catagory Users in Edinburgh to their profile so that it is easier to let them know if there is a meetup in Edinburgh. After that I hope to organise a monthly or bimonthly meeting for Edinburgh, if successful then meetups in Glasgow and Central Scotland. I hope to use the calendar feature of the wiki as the local schedule Please send your thoughts to me or edit the wiki Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?
2009/8/26 Mark Williams mark@blueyonder.co.uk: Thomas Wood wrote: [] Regarding remaining counties, Essex is definitely a priority, we may as well just upload the remaining counties as and when we can. (Which'll probably be when the new dev server is up with a sane python environment) Good, thanks for that - I am hoping to go round my bit of the world check them out as I didn't do them on my Grand GPS Survey 2 years ago, so having them as targets may provoke some activity :) Also, yes they will be nice for the Basildon Mapping Party, it will be a strange experience to have residential areas, parks bus stops but no roads on the Garmin ;) Mark Output 7568 StopPoints and 3305 StopAreas Essex has now been uploaded in http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2273335 Have fun with the data, any problems or queries can be reported back here. -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
