Re: [Talk-GB] Open Litter Map now online

2017-04-25 Thread Seán Lynch
Hi Dave & David,

Thanks for the feedback- appreciate it.

OpenLitterMap.com enables Citizen Scientists to tell a story and like the
millions of tonnes of plastic choking our oceans, it is meant to be
provocative (hence a few animations). I think one of the websites strengths
is its ability to communicate the problems of littering and be used in an
educational setting for collecting data and communicating that data. The
nav bar is fixed at the top which clearly says "Maps & Data" which guides
the user to click on a country name for a list of areas that have maps
within each country. Each sub-country location can be loaded on a map,
which also has a time slider and dynamically-sized weighted hex. grid for
spatial analysis. It might take a minute to navigate but I don't think it's
particularly difficult? All instructions are listed on each respective
page. I will follow up with some improved tutorials soon.

If you are unable to contribute as little as 30p a day to finance the
continued development of OpenLitterMap.com, there is a free account, which
will increase in upload allowance as you play the game. I think the first 2
increases are at level 5 and 10 and I will leave you explore if you want to
find out how it will increase over time. Basically the more people that are
happy to contribute, the greater the upload allowance will be for everyone.
At the moment I need to be conservative as I am financing this
independently, but I hope there are a community of mappers out there who
would like to see this project developed further. Any additional feedback
is welcome and I will take OSM considerations seriously.

Once the data grows a bit, researchers and councils can download it at ease
which I hope can improve our modes of understanding and intervention. The
goal here is to find new ways to stop plastic reaching the ocean by
enabling civic participation and creating open data.

If you would like to give it a whirl and report back, please do

Kind regards,

Seán



On 25 April 2017 at 11:19, David Woolley  wrote:

> On 25/04/17 10:44, Dave F wrote:
>
>> Unsure how you expect this site to reduce litter. It's not going to
>> prevent people dropping their waste & it's more productive to contact
>> your local authority to get fly-tipping debris removed.
>>
>
> +1
>
> Also, by looking at sites that already collect this sort of information,
> e.g. FixMyStreet.com, one would conclude that the map you get will show the
> locations of concerned individuals, not a complete picture of the litter,
> and that, where there is a picture, it can be predicted from local
> sociological and environmental conditions, that are probably already well
> known to the relevant council employees, and their refuse collection
> companies.
>
> My guess would be that the areas with the worst littering problems have
> relatively few concerned individuals, and, in any case, the number of
> individuals sufficiently interested to spend the time needed to lock up a
> GPS and take the photographs, is too few to get even 1% coverage.
>
> (I also found the animation annoying, and possibly even disability
> discrimination violations, and found it difficult work out what you were
> really doing.  I'm still not completely sure.
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Open Litter Map now online

2017-04-25 Thread Warin

On 25-Apr-17 08:19 PM, David Woolley wrote:

On 25/04/17 10:44, Dave F wrote:

Unsure how you expect this site to reduce litter. It's not going to
prevent people dropping their waste & it's more productive to contact
your local authority to get fly-tipping debris removed.


+1


A Mayor of North Sydney NSW Australia found rubbish piled up beside the 
council bins, so he organised more pick ups.

The amount of rubbish beside the bins did not decrease!
So he doubled the number of bins.
The amount of rubbish increased!

He removed the bins. Quite a few locals were upset at this taking place.
There was vastly less rubbish at these places. People, including the 
locals, were much happier with this result.


I wish you luck with 'your' rubbish.

(His name was Ted Mack, refused the Mayor's 'free' car and driver 
preferring to drive his old car himself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Mack_(politician))



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Re: [Talk-GB] Open Litter Map now online

2017-04-25 Thread David Woolley

On 25/04/17 10:44, Dave F wrote:

Unsure how you expect this site to reduce litter. It's not going to
prevent people dropping their waste & it's more productive to contact
your local authority to get fly-tipping debris removed.


+1

Also, by looking at sites that already collect this sort of information, 
e.g. FixMyStreet.com, one would conclude that the map you get will show 
the locations of concerned individuals, not a complete picture of the 
litter, and that, where there is a picture, it can be predicted from 
local sociological and environmental conditions, that are probably 
already well known to the relevant council employees, and their refuse 
collection companies.


My guess would be that the areas with the worst littering problems have 
relatively few concerned individuals, and, in any case, the number of 
individuals sufficiently interested to spend the time needed to lock up 
a GPS and take the photographs, is too few to get even 1% coverage.


(I also found the animation annoying, and possibly even disability 
discrimination violations, and found it difficult work out what you were 
really doing.  I'm still not completely sure.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Open Litter Map now online

2017-04-25 Thread Dave F

Hi

On 24/04/2017 22:36, Seán Lynch wrote:



Would appreciate some feedback. I hope you like it!


I find the initial page very irritating. Are sliding, wobbly text blocks 
& images really necessary?


You say it's a map, yet make it very hard to find. There's no mention of 
clicking the country/town to display one. As you call it a map wouldn't 
it be beneficial to put a map on the home page?


I'm not willing to pay to be able to contribute above the minimum.

Unsure how you expect this site to reduce litter. It's not going to 
prevent people dropping their waste & it's more productive to contact 
your local authority to get fly-tipping debris removed.


Wish I could of been more positive
DaveF
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