Re: [Talk-GB] Asda petrol station data

[Paul Berry]

Hi Rob,

If it's not too much trouble, could you run through an example of how to
validate this data? I'm only going to weigh in on the one filling station I
know in the import (Meadow Lane, Leeds) but it's not entirely clear how
this is managed via the validation tool.

Many thanks.

Regards,
*Paul*

On 26 December 2017 at 11:04, Rob Nickerson 
wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback. This is now ready for you to validate:
>
> http://audit.osmz.ru/project/Asda-petrol-stations
>
> And noted it is a very small dataset as it's primarily a learning exercise
> for me.
>
> Thanks and Merry Christmas
> Rob
>
> On 22 Dec 2017 11:05 p.m., "Rob Nickerson" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Following the shell petrol station data I wanted to learn more about the
>> tools that Ilya was using (the conflate script and the community validation
>> website). To do this I have downloaded the Asda petrol station data. This
>> was listed on the OSM United Kingdom wiki page as a source we have
>> permission to use and I have followed this up and checked the permission
>> details.
>>
>> It's only a small dataset but it should still be treated with care. As
>> such I will be using the community validation website but before uploading
>> the data I would like to check the following:
>>
>> 1. Each petrol station has a URL with the store details including opening
>> hours. How should we tag this? Should we use the "website" tag or the
>> "opening_hours:url" tag?
>>
>> 2. For opening hours 6am to 10pm every day of the week, what is the right
>> tag value? Is is "06:00-22:00" or "Mo-Su 06:00-22:00"?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> *Rob*
>>
>> p.s. The timing with the walmart import being discussed on the imports
>> mailing list is purely coincidental.
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

[Mark Goodge]

On 29/12/2017 23:23, Mick Orridge wrote:

The ONS postcode file (Open Government Licence other than BT postcodes 
for NI) for August 2017 (download here:- 
https://ons.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=1e4a246b91c34178a55aab047413f29b) 
holds terminated postcodes. It's entry for BD5 8JR shows a terminated 
date of 2009 06. I guess the replacement postcode could be narrowed down 
using the date introduced field along with perhaps the OA01 field (2001 
census output area) plus easting and northing.


That's a nice idea, but unfortunately it doesn't quite work :-)

The correct postcode according to PAF, BD6 1DA, was introduced in 1980 
(the same year as BD5 8JR, as it happens), so there isn't a one to one 
mapping of old to new - instead, properties formerly in BD5 8JR seem to 
have been reassigned to other existing postcodes rather than to a new one.


Also, BD6 1DA isn't the nearest current postcode to BD5 8JR - there are 
a couple of other BD5 xxx postcodes that are closer.


It's speculation, but my guess is that BD5 8JR was simply abolished and 
all the properties in it reassigned to the BD6 postal area. Bear in mind 
that it's not just a different postcode, but also a different district 
(and therefore a different outbound code). Looking at the boundary maps 
of the postcode districts, it looks as if Rooley Avenue and all the 
roads immediately off it were moved from BD5 to BD6. So the change was 
probably for operational reasons, quite possibly in response to new 
development in the area that affected the pattern of mail delivery.


Going back to the previous point about using neighbouring properties as 
a guide, the Shell filling station only has one neighbour (on the other 
side it's right up against the junction). That neighbour is Pearls 
Tearoom & Patisserie, which publishes its own postcode as BD6 1DA:


https://www.facebook.com/pearlstearoom/

Also, looking at the map, the tearoom shares an entrance and car park 
with the filling station (it's a typical "cafe at a petrol station" 
layout). Given that BD6 1DA isn't a single-user postcode, I think that's 
sufficient observational evidence to assign it to the filling station as 
well - unless the filling station itself had a single-user postcode 
(which is unlikely), there's no other postcode it could plausibly be.


Personally, I'd be happy with that. Even though we know, from the PAF, 
that BD6 1DA is correct, there's enough non-PAF evidence to support it. 
If anyone feels like editing it, it would probably be worth adding a 
note to say that the source of the postcode is extrapolated from a known 
neighbour, just to be on the safe side. But that ought to be enough to 
cover it.


Mark

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[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #388 2017-12-19-2017-12-25

[weeklyteam]

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 388,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/9819/

Enjoy!

weeklyOSM? 
who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
where?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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