[Talk-GB] Derby Meeting next month: location tba

2019-01-22 Thread SK53
Dear All,

John Baker (Rovastar) informs me that the Old Silk Mill (our normal venue)
is currently closed, perhaps for refurbishment. Therefore at present our
location for next month's meeting remains to be confirmed,

If the Old Silk MIll has not reopened by then, likely alternatives are The
Alex and The Brunswick close to Derby railway station.

Cheers,

Jerry
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Re: [Talk-GB] OS National Grid References

2019-01-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Brian Prangle wrote:
> Are these covered by copyright?

The National Grid per se is not covered by copyright.

The newer transformations used to produce highly accurate grid references
may be, but in fact OS has licensed  the most recent (OSTN15) under the
permissive BSD licence:

https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/help-and-support/navigation-technology/os-net/formats-for-developers.html

Richard



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Re: [Talk-GB] OS National Grid References

2019-01-22 Thread Tom Hughes

On 22/01/2019 16:20, Brian Prangle wrote:


Are these covered by copyright? I've found conflicting opinions:


The issue is not a grid ref itself as such, but the data tables
that are necessary to do a fully accurate conversion between OSGB
and WG84 (or any other coordinate system).

There is a simplified algorithmic transformation but a fully
accurate conversion requires the OSTN02 data.

I'm not sure what the current status is but they certainly used
to claim various IP rights over it.

Tom

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[Talk-GB] OS National Grid References

2019-01-22 Thread Brian Prangle
Are these covered by copyright? I've found conflicting opinions:

out of copyright in 1986 - since it was 50 years since the introduction of
the NG in 1936

and

"current case law supports this ownership, given in Ordnance Survey vs
Younger and others (Ch 10 April 1995), in which Sir Jeremy Vinelott,
sitting as a Judge of the High Court, ruled that "OS copyright material
includes the National Grid" and that "the OS retain the right to refuse to
allow ... [someone] ... to use the National Grid", a right taken up in that
case. "

Can anyone shed any light on this?

regards

Brian
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Re: [Talk-GB] High Speed 2 route mapping

2019-01-22 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019, Jez Nicholson wrote:

> I'm doing some professional work with High Speed 2 data.
> 
> Can anyone update or add detail to
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Railways/High_speed_2 ?
> I know that @blackadder worked on this.
> 
> I've also been looking at http://www.thehs2.com/
> 
> I also know that there are now some active (pre?) construction sites on the
> route which could be mapped.

I will do the one 20 meters from my home, once they start going. They're 
currently still preparing, but I am keeping an eye on it (quite 
literally from the living room!).

cheers,
Derick

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[Talk-GB] Nottingham pub meeting Jan 2019

2019-01-22 Thread SK53
The first Nottingham pub meeting of the year will be tonight in the
Lincolnshire Poacher.from 19:30.  Usual wiki link:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup

Dates for the next two months are:

* Feb: Tuesday 19th Silk MIll Derby
* Mar: Tuesday 19th Lincolnshire Poacher, Nottingham

I'll have a go at sorting out the rest of the calendar for the year today.

Jerry
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