Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabouts one piece or segregated

[Dave F via Talk-GB]

On 23/12/2019 18:28, David Woolley wrote:

On 23/12/2019 18:15, Nick Allen wrote:
I may be missing something here, but 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/477263099 looks okay to me.




The OP was proposing that 
, 
, and 

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabouts one piece or segregated

[Nick Allen]

Hi,
Yes, but the way it is currently mapped is the way I would chose, and
have utilised on many roundabouts for public transport &  cycle
routes. 
Has something changed? If so I wasn't aware?
Regards
NickTallguy
On Mon, 2019-12-23 at 18:28 +, David Woolley wrote:
> On 23/12/2019 18:15, Nick Allen wrote:
> I may be missing something here, but 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/477263099 looks okay to me.
> 
> 
> The OP was proposing that <
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/477263099>, <
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/757674481>, and <
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/757543147 should be merged into a,
> single, closed loop.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabouts one piece or segregated

[David Woolley]

On 23/12/2019 18:15, Nick Allen wrote:
I may be missing something here, but 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/477263099 looks okay to me.





The OP was proposing that , 
, and 

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabouts one piece or segregated

[Nick Allen]

Hi,

I may be missing something here, but 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/477263099 looks okay to me. 

The wiki at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Public_transport_routes
 didn't give me any clues either.

Regards

Nick
(Tallguy)

On Mon, 2019-12-23 at 14:08 +1100, Warin wrote:
> I'm looking at Wivenhoe B1028 way 477263099.
> This is a segment of a roundabout.
> 
> Would it not be better for the way to be a single feature in OSM?
> 
> I think the route relations now handle roundabouts so there should be no 
> problem there.
> 
> Thoughts?
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Re: [Talk-GB] East Midlands New Year Footpath Mapping Social 2020

[SK53]

I was planning to close the poll tomorrow, but as it is clear that Friday
this week (27th Dec) is the best date for everyone I thought I'd close it
now to enable planning for the day.

I will update the wiki in detail this evening, but I have reserved a table
at The Horseshoes for 12:30 on Friday. If anyone else fancies joining us on
the day, you are more than welcome. The area is not well-served by public
transport at the best of times, so if someone fancies coming along but does
not use a car, do get in touch, one of us may be able to arrange a pick-up
somewhere more convenient for you. For drivers from most directions the
best way is to turn off the A52 either just before Kirk Langley or at Kirk
Langley and then follow Long Lane to the village of the same name. Long
Lane follows the course of the former Roman Road between Rocester & Little
Chester. From the A50, the junction at Hilton provides access to the area.

I hope I'll have time to prepare more detailed missing maps paths, but
MapthePaths is a good start

.

Now that a date is fixed, I think it's reasonable to start adding detail
from aerial imagery. One thing we can do is have a good look at the various
types of farmland and do some of the sub-tagging recently discussed.

Jerry







On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 12:55, SK53  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Provisional details for a planned mapping event around the new year are
> now on the wiki:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Mapping_Meetup/New_Year_2020
> .
>
> There's masses to be done in the area just to the West of where we visited
> last year. Similar type of terrain. Once a date is firmed up then there's
> ample scope for some arm-chair mapping which can be refined by the ground
> survey.
>
> A Doodle poll to select a date most convenient for as many as possible
> (unfortunately New Year Plant Hunt dates rule out 1st-4th Jan for me):
> https://doodle.com/poll/2edmmyvi9yeeip3q
>
> I'm anticipating the 11th or 18th Jan are likely to be most convenient.
>
> Hope people might be able to make it,
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jerry
>
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[Talk-GB] Poll results: New Year Footpath Mapping 2020

[SK 53 (via Doodle)]

Hi,

SK 53 has chosen the following final date in the poll New Year
Footpath Mapping 2020:

Time zone: London

* Friday, 27 December 2019 10:30 – 12:30

Hi,
  Thanks, everyone who participated in this poll. To my surprise
Friday this week (27th) is the date which suits most people, so I've
closed the poll to give enough notice for planning.
  
  I've booked a
table for 12:30 in a room with tiled floors, just in case we get very
muddy.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Jerry
  
  PS. Will add a bit more direct to
talk-gb

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Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabouts one piece or segregated

[David Woolley via Talk-GB]

On 23/12/2019 03:08, Warin wrote:

I'm looking at Wivenhoe B1028 way 477263099.
This is a segment of a roundabout.

Would it not be better for the way to be a single feature in OSM?


It is rarely a good idea to revert from more concrete to more abstract, 
so I would say no.


Incidentally, many things mapped as roundabouts aren't legally 
roundabouts, but rather traffic circles.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Disused or empty apartments

[Gareth L]

Thank you all for your contributions to this discussion. There does appear to 
still be a bit of a trick here as the disused tag for areas/buildings is still 
expected to be used with regards to an amenity tag, and building=apartments is 
a description of the construction/building but also indicates its use.

The towers in question are due to be demolished in 2020. I’ve made them 
building=yes and kept the building level tags, and name, as they’re still 
visible. The landuse has been changed from residential to brownfield.
Additionally, i’ve added a note and a source indicating their expected 
demolishion date.

Fwiw, building=disused with disused=apartment *does* render differently (dashed 
lines, like construction) in the ID editor at least... but that’s just one 
render, so i’ve held back.

Gareth


From: Warin
Sent: 18 December 2019 23:47
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Disused or empty apartments

On 19/12/19 00:41, Mike Baggaley wrote:
> Perhaps setting both building=yes and disused: building=apartments
> would fulfill all the needs.

Err no. Having both tags on the one object is contradictory.

How is it determined which tag to render?


A building=* is rendered one way.
A disused:building=* is rendered another.

So .. is it a "building" or a "disused building"???



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