Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
I've now had updated map files through from NLS and these work well. The main priorities now are: * Website - we need to think about the design. I've just raised this with Chris at the NLS to get his thoughts (it is after all their maps at the moment). * Improving the vectorizer so that we don't end up with a gap between terrace buildings. Help from the GIS community would be great. See the bug details at https://github.com/NYPL/map-vectorizer/issues/19 Regards, Rob On 21 May 2014 22:41, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Good work Tim. It seems we have a lot of people interested in this. :-D In regards to the NLS maps, I am having some trouble with the sample files sent through to me. I sent them on to the guys from NYPL and even they struggled. I've just contacted Chris at NLS to see if he can send me them in a different file format. Meanwhile there is a chance to improve the map vecotorizer tool. Currently the way it works leaves a gap between terrace buildings. If you, or anyone you know may be able to help solve this GIS problem (including post processing), please get in touch. Details at: https://github.com/NYPL/map-vectorizer/issues/19 Regards, Rob On 21 May 2014 22:31, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I've heard back from the British Library - they are hugely interested with the Map-Vectorizer work - it's really encouraging. In brief they said that they were positive but that they'd need to get some things sorted first, looking at licensing, formats etc and they would update me soonish. In the meantime I suggest we go ahead with the NLS maps and see if we can get our stack up and running with those maps? Cheers, Tim On 18 May 2014 23:01, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work Tim.You're right about the traced and centroid JSON files.They do indeed come out of the NYPL map-vectorizer [1]. I've got a version of this up and running on my computer and have successfully vectorized the test file. Chris Fleet (from NLS) has sent me some test maps, however these are Jpeg 2000 files and are causing quite a bit of trouble so far. At first I thought it was a bug in my computer (in the jasper library that's responsible for opening jp2 files), but I tried a second computer today and that failed to. I'll get in touch with Chris again. Meanwhile those BL Goad maps look great. Let us know if you hear back from BL. Thanks for your help, Rob [1] https://github.com/NYPL/map-vectorizer On 18 May 2014 22:35, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of things - building inspector update and British Library Goad maps. Building Inspector update: I've got it working and have put up an instance on heroku for the moment - Works well and it can handle 10K rows in the database for free. http://leatherwood.herokuapp.com/ * It's just got about half of the NYPL data in it * Only Twitter log in will work for it. * Initially only the Check Polygons task will work until there's enough that's been checked, and then the other tasks become unlocked. The code is here: https://github.com/timwaters/building-inspector So, it does require some configuring. We need: * a tile set for the basemap Also - some files like what's in https://github.com/timwaters/building-inspector/tree/master/public/files: * ingestor_config_builder.py run on the geotiffs * The traced and centroid json files which I imagine are generated by the vectorising process. We'd also need to tweak the website blurb etc Overall it should be quite easy to get a pilot area done. - British Library Goad Maps Like the NYPL's maps - these are fire insurance maps of the 19th century - they have various colours, addresses etc and great detail. They are the perfect thing for our Building Inspector. In addition, the coverage is immense. Major towns and cities in Ireland and the UK. http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlineex/firemaps/fireinsurancemaps.html I've reached out via Twitter and via email to the Library asking for a couple of maps for a pilot area to look at. Cheers, Tim On 16 May 2014 19:57, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for you help Tim, The NYPL code is here: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector/ I'm assuming it's rails as that's mentioned in some of the code commits, but I don't know any more than that. Best, Rob p.s. The code for vectorizing maps is also on GitHub. Chris has sent me a couple of GeoTIFs so I'm going to have a go with them this weekend. On 16 May 2014 12:51, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: I might have some time this weekend to look at the Rails side of things (that is, if no one else has made any progress) Will ping back in a couple of days Tim On 12 May 2014 21:08, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Steven, Thanks for the offer of help. Yesterday I managed to get the NYPL vectorizer working (this is the tool
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Hi folks, I've heard back from the British Library - they are hugely interested with the Map-Vectorizer work - it's really encouraging. In brief they said that they were positive but that they'd need to get some things sorted first, looking at licensing, formats etc and they would update me soonish. In the meantime I suggest we go ahead with the NLS maps and see if we can get our stack up and running with those maps? Cheers, Tim On 18 May 2014 23:01, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work Tim.You're right about the traced and centroid JSON files.They do indeed come out of the NYPL map-vectorizer [1]. I've got a version of this up and running on my computer and have successfully vectorized the test file. Chris Fleet (from NLS) has sent me some test maps, however these are Jpeg 2000 files and are causing quite a bit of trouble so far. At first I thought it was a bug in my computer (in the jasper library that's responsible for opening jp2 files), but I tried a second computer today and that failed to. I'll get in touch with Chris again. Meanwhile those BL Goad maps look great. Let us know if you hear back from BL. Thanks for your help, Rob [1] https://github.com/NYPL/map-vectorizer On 18 May 2014 22:35, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of things - building inspector update and British Library Goad maps. Building Inspector update: I've got it working and have put up an instance on heroku for the moment - Works well and it can handle 10K rows in the database for free. http://leatherwood.herokuapp.com/ * It's just got about half of the NYPL data in it * Only Twitter log in will work for it. * Initially only the Check Polygons task will work until there's enough that's been checked, and then the other tasks become unlocked. The code is here: https://github.com/timwaters/building-inspector So, it does require some configuring. We need: * a tile set for the basemap Also - some files like what's in https://github.com/timwaters/building-inspector/tree/master/public/files: * ingestor_config_builder.py run on the geotiffs * The traced and centroid json files which I imagine are generated by the vectorising process. We'd also need to tweak the website blurb etc Overall it should be quite easy to get a pilot area done. - British Library Goad Maps Like the NYPL's maps - these are fire insurance maps of the 19th century - they have various colours, addresses etc and great detail. They are the perfect thing for our Building Inspector. In addition, the coverage is immense. Major towns and cities in Ireland and the UK. http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlineex/firemaps/fireinsurancemaps.html I've reached out via Twitter and via email to the Library asking for a couple of maps for a pilot area to look at. Cheers, Tim On 16 May 2014 19:57, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for you help Tim, The NYPL code is here: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector/ I'm assuming it's rails as that's mentioned in some of the code commits, but I don't know any more than that. Best, Rob p.s. The code for vectorizing maps is also on GitHub. Chris has sent me a couple of GeoTIFs so I'm going to have a go with them this weekend. On 16 May 2014 12:51, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: I might have some time this weekend to look at the Rails side of things (that is, if no one else has made any progress) Will ping back in a couple of days Tim On 12 May 2014 21:08, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steven, Thanks for the offer of help. Yesterday I managed to get the NYPL vectorizer working (this is the tool that has a first stab at creating vectors from the map). I did this on a small screenshot of NLS's London maps. I've asked Chris if he could send me a GeoTIF to do a larger scale test. Some of the key areas that I think need addressing: * Improving the automated vectorizer. Currently the vectorizer creates polygons of the inside of buildings (rather than following the wall). For a terraced street this produces a row of detached buildings. Some processing could improve this. I guess this could be done before, after, or both before and after the polygon has been processed by the human volunteers on the website. * The website looks like it's a Rails site. I would need a lot of help with this as it's an area I know very little about. Are you able to help with either of these? Kind regards, Rob On 12 May 2014 16:26, Steven Horner ste...@stevenhorner.com wrote: Hello, I would be happy to help in anyway and have previously had a conversation with Chris at NLS regarding helping georeference some of their maps. I had been looking into creating my own historical version of OSM for a local personal project, when I looked a few weeks ago Open Historical Map was down and was never very usable before that. It sounds like from the WIKI
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Good work Tim. It seems we have a lot of people interested in this. :-D In regards to the NLS maps, I am having some trouble with the sample files sent through to me. I sent them on to the guys from NYPL and even they struggled. I've just contacted Chris at NLS to see if he can send me them in a different file format. Meanwhile there is a chance to improve the map vecotorizer tool. Currently the way it works leaves a gap between terrace buildings. If you, or anyone you know may be able to help solve this GIS problem (including post processing), please get in touch. Details at: https://github.com/NYPL/map-vectorizer/issues/19 Regards, Rob On 21 May 2014 22:31, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I've heard back from the British Library - they are hugely interested with the Map-Vectorizer work - it's really encouraging. In brief they said that they were positive but that they'd need to get some things sorted first, looking at licensing, formats etc and they would update me soonish. In the meantime I suggest we go ahead with the NLS maps and see if we can get our stack up and running with those maps? Cheers, Tim On 18 May 2014 23:01, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work Tim.You're right about the traced and centroid JSON files.They do indeed come out of the NYPL map-vectorizer [1]. I've got a version of this up and running on my computer and have successfully vectorized the test file. Chris Fleet (from NLS) has sent me some test maps, however these are Jpeg 2000 files and are causing quite a bit of trouble so far. At first I thought it was a bug in my computer (in the jasper library that's responsible for opening jp2 files), but I tried a second computer today and that failed to. I'll get in touch with Chris again. Meanwhile those BL Goad maps look great. Let us know if you hear back from BL. Thanks for your help, Rob [1] https://github.com/NYPL/map-vectorizer On 18 May 2014 22:35, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of things - building inspector update and British Library Goad maps. Building Inspector update: I've got it working and have put up an instance on heroku for the moment - Works well and it can handle 10K rows in the database for free. http://leatherwood.herokuapp.com/ * It's just got about half of the NYPL data in it * Only Twitter log in will work for it. * Initially only the Check Polygons task will work until there's enough that's been checked, and then the other tasks become unlocked. The code is here: https://github.com/timwaters/building-inspector So, it does require some configuring. We need: * a tile set for the basemap Also - some files like what's in https://github.com/timwaters/building-inspector/tree/master/public/files: * ingestor_config_builder.py run on the geotiffs * The traced and centroid json files which I imagine are generated by the vectorising process. We'd also need to tweak the website blurb etc Overall it should be quite easy to get a pilot area done. - British Library Goad Maps Like the NYPL's maps - these are fire insurance maps of the 19th century - they have various colours, addresses etc and great detail. They are the perfect thing for our Building Inspector. In addition, the coverage is immense. Major towns and cities in Ireland and the UK. http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlineex/firemaps/fireinsurancemaps.html I've reached out via Twitter and via email to the Library asking for a couple of maps for a pilot area to look at. Cheers, Tim On 16 May 2014 19:57, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for you help Tim, The NYPL code is here: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector/ I'm assuming it's rails as that's mentioned in some of the code commits, but I don't know any more than that. Best, Rob p.s. The code for vectorizing maps is also on GitHub. Chris has sent me a couple of GeoTIFs so I'm going to have a go with them this weekend. On 16 May 2014 12:51, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: I might have some time this weekend to look at the Rails side of things (that is, if no one else has made any progress) Will ping back in a couple of days Tim On 12 May 2014 21:08, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steven, Thanks for the offer of help. Yesterday I managed to get the NYPL vectorizer working (this is the tool that has a first stab at creating vectors from the map). I did this on a small screenshot of NLS's London maps. I've asked Chris if he could send me a GeoTIF to do a larger scale test. Some of the key areas that I think need addressing: * Improving the automated vectorizer. Currently the vectorizer creates polygons of the inside of buildings (rather than following the wall). For a terraced street this produces a row of detached buildings. Some processing could improve this. I guess this could be done before, after, or both before and after
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Couple of things - building inspector update and British Library Goad maps. Building Inspector update: I've got it working and have put up an instance on heroku for the moment - Works well and it can handle 10K rows in the database for free. http://leatherwood.herokuapp.com/ * It's just got about half of the NYPL data in it * Only Twitter log in will work for it. * Initially only the Check Polygons task will work until there's enough that's been checked, and then the other tasks become unlocked. The code is here: https://github.com/timwaters/building-inspector So, it does require some configuring. We need: * a tile set for the basemap Also - some files like what's in https://github.com/timwaters/building-inspector/tree/master/public/files : * ingestor_config_builder.py run on the geotiffs * The traced and centroid json files which I imagine are generated by the vectorising process. We'd also need to tweak the website blurb etc Overall it should be quite easy to get a pilot area done. - British Library Goad Maps Like the NYPL's maps - these are fire insurance maps of the 19th century - they have various colours, addresses etc and great detail. They are the perfect thing for our Building Inspector. In addition, the coverage is immense. Major towns and cities in Ireland and the UK. http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlineex/firemaps/fireinsurancemaps.html I've reached out via Twitter and via email to the Library asking for a couple of maps for a pilot area to look at. Cheers, Tim On 16 May 2014 19:57, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for you help Tim, The NYPL code is here: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector/ I'm assuming it's rails as that's mentioned in some of the code commits, but I don't know any more than that. Best, Rob p.s. The code for vectorizing maps is also on GitHub. Chris has sent me a couple of GeoTIFs so I'm going to have a go with them this weekend. On 16 May 2014 12:51, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: I might have some time this weekend to look at the Rails side of things (that is, if no one else has made any progress) Will ping back in a couple of days Tim On 12 May 2014 21:08, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steven, Thanks for the offer of help. Yesterday I managed to get the NYPL vectorizer working (this is the tool that has a first stab at creating vectors from the map). I did this on a small screenshot of NLS's London maps. I've asked Chris if he could send me a GeoTIF to do a larger scale test. Some of the key areas that I think need addressing: * Improving the automated vectorizer. Currently the vectorizer creates polygons of the inside of buildings (rather than following the wall). For a terraced street this produces a row of detached buildings. Some processing could improve this. I guess this could be done before, after, or both before and after the polygon has been processed by the human volunteers on the website. * The website looks like it's a Rails site. I would need a lot of help with this as it's an area I know very little about. Are you able to help with either of these? Kind regards, Rob On 12 May 2014 16:26, Steven Horner ste...@stevenhorner.com wrote: Hello, I would be happy to help in anyway and have previously had a conversation with Chris at NLS regarding helping georeference some of their maps. I had been looking into creating my own historical version of OSM for a local personal project, when I looked a few weeks ago Open Historical Map was down and was never very usable before that. It sounds like from the WIKI things maybe starting to happen, date slider planned, etc. regards, Steven On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Historic Map folks, I have now heard from Chris at National Library of Scotland (NLS). He is very supportive* of the idea of using something similar to the NYPL Building Inspector software and website for digitizing some of NLS's historic maps. As NYPL have made all their software Open Source, it should be relatively easy to roll this out with NLS's (or other) maps. Who's interested in getting involved? You lot set the pace of this :-D Regards, Rob * NLS would be able to supply the scanned and geo-rectified maps. As with everyone else their ability to do any more is limited by their level of funding. This should not be a problem as we can self host the website. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Nice work Tim.You're right about the traced and centroid JSON files.They do indeed come out of the NYPL map-vectorizer [1]. I've got a version of this up and running on my computer and have successfully vectorized the test file. Chris Fleet (from NLS) has sent me some test maps, however these are Jpeg 2000 files and are causing quite a bit of trouble so far. At first I thought it was a bug in my computer (in the jasper library that's responsible for opening jp2 files), but I tried a second computer today and that failed to. I'll get in touch with Chris again. Meanwhile those BL Goad maps look great. Let us know if you hear back from BL. Thanks for your help, Rob [1] https://github.com/NYPL/map-vectorizer On 18 May 2014 22:35, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of things - building inspector update and British Library Goad maps. Building Inspector update: I've got it working and have put up an instance on heroku for the moment - Works well and it can handle 10K rows in the database for free. http://leatherwood.herokuapp.com/ * It's just got about half of the NYPL data in it * Only Twitter log in will work for it. * Initially only the Check Polygons task will work until there's enough that's been checked, and then the other tasks become unlocked. The code is here: https://github.com/timwaters/building-inspector So, it does require some configuring. We need: * a tile set for the basemap Also - some files like what's in https://github.com/timwaters/building-inspector/tree/master/public/files : * ingestor_config_builder.py run on the geotiffs * The traced and centroid json files which I imagine are generated by the vectorising process. We'd also need to tweak the website blurb etc Overall it should be quite easy to get a pilot area done. - British Library Goad Maps Like the NYPL's maps - these are fire insurance maps of the 19th century - they have various colours, addresses etc and great detail. They are the perfect thing for our Building Inspector. In addition, the coverage is immense. Major towns and cities in Ireland and the UK. http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlineex/firemaps/fireinsurancemaps.html I've reached out via Twitter and via email to the Library asking for a couple of maps for a pilot area to look at. Cheers, Tim On 16 May 2014 19:57, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for you help Tim, The NYPL code is here: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector/ I'm assuming it's rails as that's mentioned in some of the code commits, but I don't know any more than that. Best, Rob p.s. The code for vectorizing maps is also on GitHub. Chris has sent me a couple of GeoTIFs so I'm going to have a go with them this weekend. On 16 May 2014 12:51, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: I might have some time this weekend to look at the Rails side of things (that is, if no one else has made any progress) Will ping back in a couple of days Tim On 12 May 2014 21:08, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steven, Thanks for the offer of help. Yesterday I managed to get the NYPL vectorizer working (this is the tool that has a first stab at creating vectors from the map). I did this on a small screenshot of NLS's London maps. I've asked Chris if he could send me a GeoTIF to do a larger scale test. Some of the key areas that I think need addressing: * Improving the automated vectorizer. Currently the vectorizer creates polygons of the inside of buildings (rather than following the wall). For a terraced street this produces a row of detached buildings. Some processing could improve this. I guess this could be done before, after, or both before and after the polygon has been processed by the human volunteers on the website. * The website looks like it's a Rails site. I would need a lot of help with this as it's an area I know very little about. Are you able to help with either of these? Kind regards, Rob On 12 May 2014 16:26, Steven Horner ste...@stevenhorner.com wrote: Hello, I would be happy to help in anyway and have previously had a conversation with Chris at NLS regarding helping georeference some of their maps. I had been looking into creating my own historical version of OSM for a local personal project, when I looked a few weeks ago Open Historical Map was down and was never very usable before that. It sounds like from the WIKI things maybe starting to happen, date slider planned, etc. regards, Steven On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Historic Map folks, I have now heard from Chris at National Library of Scotland (NLS). He is very supportive* of the idea of using something similar to the NYPL Building Inspector software and website for digitizing some of NLS's historic maps. As NYPL have made all their software Open Source, it should be relatively easy to roll this out with
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
I might have some time this weekend to look at the Rails side of things (that is, if no one else has made any progress) Will ping back in a couple of days Tim On 12 May 2014 21:08, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steven, Thanks for the offer of help. Yesterday I managed to get the NYPL vectorizer working (this is the tool that has a first stab at creating vectors from the map). I did this on a small screenshot of NLS's London maps. I've asked Chris if he could send me a GeoTIF to do a larger scale test. Some of the key areas that I think need addressing: * Improving the automated vectorizer. Currently the vectorizer creates polygons of the inside of buildings (rather than following the wall). For a terraced street this produces a row of detached buildings. Some processing could improve this. I guess this could be done before, after, or both before and after the polygon has been processed by the human volunteers on the website. * The website looks like it's a Rails site. I would need a lot of help with this as it's an area I know very little about. Are you able to help with either of these? Kind regards, Rob On 12 May 2014 16:26, Steven Horner ste...@stevenhorner.com wrote: Hello, I would be happy to help in anyway and have previously had a conversation with Chris at NLS regarding helping georeference some of their maps. I had been looking into creating my own historical version of OSM for a local personal project, when I looked a few weeks ago Open Historical Map was down and was never very usable before that. It sounds like from the WIKI things maybe starting to happen, date slider planned, etc. regards, Steven On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Historic Map folks, I have now heard from Chris at National Library of Scotland (NLS). He is very supportive* of the idea of using something similar to the NYPL Building Inspector software and website for digitizing some of NLS's historic maps. As NYPL have made all their software Open Source, it should be relatively easy to roll this out with NLS's (or other) maps. Who's interested in getting involved? You lot set the pace of this :-D Regards, Rob * NLS would be able to supply the scanned and geo-rectified maps. As with everyone else their ability to do any more is limited by their level of funding. This should not be a problem as we can self host the website. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Thanks for you help Tim, The NYPL code is here: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector/ I'm assuming it's rails as that's mentioned in some of the code commits, but I don't know any more than that. Best, Rob p.s. The code for vectorizing maps is also on GitHub. Chris has sent me a couple of GeoTIFs so I'm going to have a go with them this weekend. On 16 May 2014 12:51, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: I might have some time this weekend to look at the Rails side of things (that is, if no one else has made any progress) Will ping back in a couple of days Tim On 12 May 2014 21:08, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steven, Thanks for the offer of help. Yesterday I managed to get the NYPL vectorizer working (this is the tool that has a first stab at creating vectors from the map). I did this on a small screenshot of NLS's London maps. I've asked Chris if he could send me a GeoTIF to do a larger scale test. Some of the key areas that I think need addressing: * Improving the automated vectorizer. Currently the vectorizer creates polygons of the inside of buildings (rather than following the wall). For a terraced street this produces a row of detached buildings. Some processing could improve this. I guess this could be done before, after, or both before and after the polygon has been processed by the human volunteers on the website. * The website looks like it's a Rails site. I would need a lot of help with this as it's an area I know very little about. Are you able to help with either of these? Kind regards, Rob On 12 May 2014 16:26, Steven Horner ste...@stevenhorner.com wrote: Hello, I would be happy to help in anyway and have previously had a conversation with Chris at NLS regarding helping georeference some of their maps. I had been looking into creating my own historical version of OSM for a local personal project, when I looked a few weeks ago Open Historical Map was down and was never very usable before that. It sounds like from the WIKI things maybe starting to happen, date slider planned, etc. regards, Steven On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Historic Map folks, I have now heard from Chris at National Library of Scotland (NLS). He is very supportive* of the idea of using something similar to the NYPL Building Inspector software and website for digitizing some of NLS's historic maps. As NYPL have made all their software Open Source, it should be relatively easy to roll this out with NLS's (or other) maps. Who's interested in getting involved? You lot set the pace of this :-D Regards, Rob * NLS would be able to supply the scanned and geo-rectified maps. As with everyone else their ability to do any more is limited by their level of funding. This should not be a problem as we can self host the website. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Hello, I would be happy to help in anyway and have previously had a conversation with Chris at NLS regarding helping georeference some of their maps. I had been looking into creating my own historical version of OSM for a local personal project, when I looked a few weeks ago Open Historical Map was down and was never very usable before that. It sounds like from the WIKI things maybe starting to happen, date slider planned, etc. regards, Steven On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, Historic Map folks, I have now heard from Chris at National Library of Scotland (NLS). He is very supportive* of the idea of using something similar to the NYPL Building Inspector software and website for digitizing some of NLS's historic maps. As NYPL have made all their software Open Source, it should be relatively easy to roll this out with NLS's (or other) maps. Who's interested in getting involved? You lot set the pace of this :-D Regards, Rob * NLS would be able to supply the scanned and geo-rectified maps. As with everyone else their ability to do any more is limited by their level of funding. This should not be a problem as we can self host the website. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Hi Steven, Thanks for the offer of help. Yesterday I managed to get the NYPL vectorizer working (this is the tool that has a first stab at creating vectors from the map). I did this on a small screenshot of NLS's London maps. I've asked Chris if he could send me a GeoTIF to do a larger scale test. Some of the key areas that I think need addressing: * Improving the automated vectorizer. Currently the vectorizer creates polygons of the inside of buildings (rather than following the wall). For a terraced street this produces a row of detached buildings. Some processing could improve this. I guess this could be done before, after, or both before and after the polygon has been processed by the human volunteers on the website. * The website looks like it's a Rails site. I would need a lot of help with this as it's an area I know very little about. Are you able to help with either of these? Kind regards, Rob On 12 May 2014 16:26, Steven Horner ste...@stevenhorner.com wrote: Hello, I would be happy to help in anyway and have previously had a conversation with Chris at NLS regarding helping georeference some of their maps. I had been looking into creating my own historical version of OSM for a local personal project, when I looked a few weeks ago Open Historical Map was down and was never very usable before that. It sounds like from the WIKI things maybe starting to happen, date slider planned, etc. regards, Steven On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Historic Map folks, I have now heard from Chris at National Library of Scotland (NLS). He is very supportive* of the idea of using something similar to the NYPL Building Inspector software and website for digitizing some of NLS's historic maps. As NYPL have made all their software Open Source, it should be relatively easy to roll this out with NLS's (or other) maps. Who's interested in getting involved? You lot set the pace of this :-D Regards, Rob * NLS would be able to supply the scanned and geo-rectified maps. As with everyone else their ability to do any more is limited by their level of funding. This should not be a problem as we can self host the website. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Hi All, Historic Map folks, I have now heard from Chris at National Library of Scotland (NLS). He is very supportive* of the idea of using something similar to the NYPL Building Inspector software and website for digitizing some of NLS's historic maps. As NYPL have made all their software Open Source, it should be relatively easy to roll this out with NLS's (or other) maps. Who's interested in getting involved? You lot set the pace of this :-D Regards, Rob * NLS would be able to supply the scanned and geo-rectified maps. As with everyone else their ability to do any more is limited by their level of funding. This should not be a problem as we can self host the website. On 3 May 2014 14:15, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: The OS National Grid 1:2500 series includes addresses but is only just coming out of copyright. I have access to a slippy map with a few sheets scanned but they look like they're too recent and still in copyright. It's Chris Fleet at NLS that we need to speak to. He's spoken at sotm Scotland in the past. I'll follow it up with the Scotland group. Rob On 3 May 2014 00:09, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Those are some good examples - they appear to be around the same scale also. They are monochrome and don't have addresses which should limit a couple of the types of the tasks. Could be worth trying the Building Inspector with this dataset. I wonder if there's anyone from the NLS on list? On 1 May 2014 19:11, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, all Open. It's great. In terms of how we could use it here in the UK, the best data I can think of is the OS Town Plans for Scotland that NLS have as individual map sheets and as a slippy map: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=57.14443lon=-2.1054layers=B0TFF There is also some great London data: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=51.52008lon=-0.12473layers=B0FTF We have a pretty good relation with NLS. Is there any interest in our community to enquire about working with them? Rob On 30 April 2014 15:46, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, it has been on the list before - but they have recently revamped it and added many more features, and maps! In my opinion it's a shining example of how geo crowdsourcing applications should be. I believe it has been developed internally with the library - and I think they are just using Mapbox to host the tiles (originally coming from the warper at maps.nypl.org) The code is on github: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector and the data is available to download as well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/general/data Cheers, Tim On 29 April 2014 22:44, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote: Don't think I've spotted this on the historic mailing list so I'll post it. NYPL digitizing old maps using crowd sourcing. I just gave it a go and it works very well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/ Looks like Mapbox has some involvement, or at least the map display has a similar style to mapbox's. I wonder whether the software is open as we can use this to help OpenHistoricMap. Rob ___ Historic mailing list histo...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
The 1:2500 maps, and many other large scale maps on the Warwickshire site were digitised and rectified by Landmark Information Grouphttp://www.landmark.co.uk/, who own the copyright in the images and of course in their rectified form. Landmark. Landmark have a commericial business, Old-Maps which sells reproduction (IIRC for non-commercial use) onlinehttp://www.old-maps.co.uk/. The use of these maps at the moment for OSM or OHM purposes appears to be out-of-bounds Jerry On 6 May 2014 22:17, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Correction: I don't mean OS Country series (that seems to be older and probably now out of copyright). What I really mean is OS National Grid 1:2500 series, which can be seen at: http://maps.warwickshire.gov.uk/historical/ Rob On 3 May 2014 14:15, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: The OS County series includes addresses but is only just coming out of copyright. I have access to a slippy map with a few sheets scanned but they look like they're too recent and still in copyright. It's Chris Fleet at NLS that we need to speak to. He's spoken at sotm Scotland in the past. I'll follow it up with the Scotland group. Rob On 3 May 2014 00:09, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Those are some good examples - they appear to be around the same scale also. They are monochrome and don't have addresses which should limit a couple of the types of the tasks. Could be worth trying the Building Inspector with this dataset. I wonder if there's anyone from the NLS on list? On 1 May 2014 19:11, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, all Open. It's great. In terms of how we could use it here in the UK, the best data I can think of is the OS Town Plans for Scotland that NLS have as individual map sheets and as a slippy map: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=57.14443lon=-2.1054layers=B0TFF There is also some great London data: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=51.52008lon=-0.12473layers=B0FTF We have a pretty good relation with NLS. Is there any interest in our community to enquire about working with them? Rob On 30 April 2014 15:46, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, it has been on the list before - but they have recently revamped it and added many more features, and maps! In my opinion it's a shining example of how geo crowdsourcing applications should be. I believe it has been developed internally with the library - and I think they are just using Mapbox to host the tiles (originally coming from the warper at maps.nypl.org) The code is on github: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector and the data is available to download as well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/general/data Cheers, Tim On 29 April 2014 22:44, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote: Don't think I've spotted this on the historic mailing list so I'll post it. NYPL digitizing old maps using crowd sourcing. I just gave it a go and it works very well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/ Looks like Mapbox has some involvement, or at least the map display has a similar style to mapbox's. I wonder whether the software is open as we can use this to help OpenHistoricMap. Rob ___ Historic mailing list histo...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic ___ Historic mailing list histo...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Yes, out of bounds for now but coming out of copyright. Just as I said: The OS strikethroughCounty\strikethrough 1:2500 series includes addresses but is only just coming out of copyright. If we can get hold them and scan them, then I see no problem with using them when their copyright period ends. The link to warks site was just to give folks an idea of what I'm on about. Rob On 7 May 2014 10:23, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: The 1:2500 maps, and many other large scale maps on the Warwickshire site were digitised and rectified by Landmark Information Grouphttp://www.landmark.co.uk/, who own the copyright in the images and of course in their rectified form. Landmark. Landmark have a commericial business, Old-Maps which sells reproduction (IIRC for non-commercial use) onlinehttp://www.old-maps.co.uk/. The use of these maps at the moment for OSM or OHM purposes appears to be out-of-bounds Jerry On 6 May 2014 22:17, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Correction: I don't mean OS Country series (that seems to be older and probably now out of copyright). What I really mean is OS National Grid 1:2500 series, which can be seen at: http://maps.warwickshire.gov.uk/historical/ Rob On 3 May 2014 14:15, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: The OS County series includes addresses but is only just coming out of copyright. I have access to a slippy map with a few sheets scanned but they look like they're too recent and still in copyright. It's Chris Fleet at NLS that we need to speak to. He's spoken at sotm Scotland in the past. I'll follow it up with the Scotland group. Rob On 3 May 2014 00:09, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Those are some good examples - they appear to be around the same scale also. They are monochrome and don't have addresses which should limit a couple of the types of the tasks. Could be worth trying the Building Inspector with this dataset. I wonder if there's anyone from the NLS on list? On 1 May 2014 19:11, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, all Open. It's great. In terms of how we could use it here in the UK, the best data I can think of is the OS Town Plans for Scotland that NLS have as individual map sheets and as a slippy map: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=57.14443lon=-2.1054layers=B0TFF There is also some great London data: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=51.52008lon=-0.12473layers=B0FTF We have a pretty good relation with NLS. Is there any interest in our community to enquire about working with them? Rob On 30 April 2014 15:46, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, it has been on the list before - but they have recently revamped it and added many more features, and maps! In my opinion it's a shining example of how geo crowdsourcing applications should be. I believe it has been developed internally with the library - and I think they are just using Mapbox to host the tiles (originally coming from the warper at maps.nypl.org) The code is on github: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspectorand the data is available to download as well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/general/data Cheers, Tim On 29 April 2014 22:44, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote: Don't think I've spotted this on the historic mailing list so I'll post it. NYPL digitizing old maps using crowd sourcing. I just gave it a go and it works very well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/ Looks like Mapbox has some involvement, or at least the map display has a similar style to mapbox's. I wonder whether the software is open as we can use this to help OpenHistoricMap. Rob ___ Historic mailing list histo...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic ___ Historic mailing list histo...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Correction: I don't mean OS Country series (that seems to be older and probably now out of copyright). What I really mean is OS National Grid 1:2500 series, which can be seen at: http://maps.warwickshire.gov.uk/historical/ Rob On 3 May 2014 14:15, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: The OS County series includes addresses but is only just coming out of copyright. I have access to a slippy map with a few sheets scanned but they look like they're too recent and still in copyright. It's Chris Fleet at NLS that we need to speak to. He's spoken at sotm Scotland in the past. I'll follow it up with the Scotland group. Rob On 3 May 2014 00:09, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Those are some good examples - they appear to be around the same scale also. They are monochrome and don't have addresses which should limit a couple of the types of the tasks. Could be worth trying the Building Inspector with this dataset. I wonder if there's anyone from the NLS on list? On 1 May 2014 19:11, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, all Open. It's great. In terms of how we could use it here in the UK, the best data I can think of is the OS Town Plans for Scotland that NLS have as individual map sheets and as a slippy map: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=57.14443lon=-2.1054layers=B0TFF There is also some great London data: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=51.52008lon=-0.12473layers=B0FTF We have a pretty good relation with NLS. Is there any interest in our community to enquire about working with them? Rob On 30 April 2014 15:46, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, it has been on the list before - but they have recently revamped it and added many more features, and maps! In my opinion it's a shining example of how geo crowdsourcing applications should be. I believe it has been developed internally with the library - and I think they are just using Mapbox to host the tiles (originally coming from the warper at maps.nypl.org) The code is on github: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector and the data is available to download as well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/general/data Cheers, Tim On 29 April 2014 22:44, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote: Don't think I've spotted this on the historic mailing list so I'll post it. NYPL digitizing old maps using crowd sourcing. I just gave it a go and it works very well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/ Looks like Mapbox has some involvement, or at least the map display has a similar style to mapbox's. I wonder whether the software is open as we can use this to help OpenHistoricMap. Rob ___ Historic mailing list histo...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
The OS County series includes addresses but is only just coming out of copyright. I have access to a slippy map with a few sheets scanned but they look like they're too recent and still in copyright. It's Chris Fleet at NLS that we need to speak to. He's spoken at sotm Scotland in the past. I'll follow it up with the Scotland group. Rob On 3 May 2014 00:09, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Those are some good examples - they appear to be around the same scale also. They are monochrome and don't have addresses which should limit a couple of the types of the tasks. Could be worth trying the Building Inspector with this dataset. I wonder if there's anyone from the NLS on list? On 1 May 2014 19:11, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, all Open. It's great. In terms of how we could use it here in the UK, the best data I can think of is the OS Town Plans for Scotland that NLS have as individual map sheets and as a slippy map: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=57.14443lon=-2.1054layers=B0TFF There is also some great London data: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=51.52008lon=-0.12473layers=B0FTF We have a pretty good relation with NLS. Is there any interest in our community to enquire about working with them? Rob On 30 April 2014 15:46, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, it has been on the list before - but they have recently revamped it and added many more features, and maps! In my opinion it's a shining example of how geo crowdsourcing applications should be. I believe it has been developed internally with the library - and I think they are just using Mapbox to host the tiles (originally coming from the warper at maps.nypl.org) The code is on github: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector and the data is available to download as well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/general/data Cheers, Tim On 29 April 2014 22:44, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Don't think I've spotted this on the historic mailing list so I'll post it. NYPL digitizing old maps using crowd sourcing. I just gave it a go and it works very well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/ Looks like Mapbox has some involvement, or at least the map display has a similar style to mapbox's. I wonder whether the software is open as we can use this to help OpenHistoricMap. Rob ___ Historic mailing list histo...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Those are some good examples - they appear to be around the same scale also. They are monochrome and don't have addresses which should limit a couple of the types of the tasks. Could be worth trying the Building Inspector with this dataset. I wonder if there's anyone from the NLS on list? On 1 May 2014 19:11, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, all Open. It's great. In terms of how we could use it here in the UK, the best data I can think of is the OS Town Plans for Scotland that NLS have as individual map sheets and as a slippy map: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=57.14443lon=-2.1054layers=B0TFF There is also some great London data: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=51.52008lon=-0.12473layers=B0FTF We have a pretty good relation with NLS. Is there any interest in our community to enquire about working with them? Rob On 30 April 2014 15:46, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, it has been on the list before - but they have recently revamped it and added many more features, and maps! In my opinion it's a shining example of how geo crowdsourcing applications should be. I believe it has been developed internally with the library - and I think they are just using Mapbox to host the tiles (originally coming from the warper at maps.nypl.org) The code is on github: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector and the data is available to download as well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/general/data Cheers, Tim On 29 April 2014 22:44, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Don't think I've spotted this on the historic mailing list so I'll post it. NYPL digitizing old maps using crowd sourcing. I just gave it a go and it works very well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/ Looks like Mapbox has some involvement, or at least the map display has a similar style to mapbox's. I wonder whether the software is open as we can use this to help OpenHistoricMap. Rob ___ Historic mailing list histo...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
