Re: [Talk-GB] Lewis Cubitt Square, Kings Cross

2017-08-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2017-08-04 at 15:29 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> That was, of course, meant to go to the Wikimedia UK mailing list,
> not
> the OSM UK list.
> 
> I was wondering why so many replies were about mapping...

But it has sparked some useful debate, both here and #osm-gb.

Phil (trigpoint)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Lewis Cubitt Square, Kings Cross

2017-08-04 Thread SK53
Hi Brian,

The GiGL data are open AFAIK. I have downloaded a copy but havent looked at
it yet: it should be appearing on the GLA Data Store.

Jerry

On 4 August 2017 at 15:15, Brian Prangle  wrote:

> While we're on this subject, it isn't readily apparent to me  which map
> base the Guardian is using for this campaign. We should be lobbying them to
> use an open source rather than an online POPS which does suggest a
> delicious irony. But if they're using OSM  then good for them.  I've
> already raised this with them but not received a reply
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
> On 4 August 2017 at 14:16, Dan S  wrote:
>
>> 2017-08-04 13:20 GMT+01:00 SK53 :
>> > Personally I'm rather more interested in mapping POPS as they are
>> becoming
>> > an issue in larger cities.
>>
>> We could map the boundaries of POPS through a systematic procedure of
>> standing in specific spots, looking like we don't want to buy
>> anything, and waiting for the security guards' reaction?
>>
>> Dan
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Re: [Talk-GB] Lewis Cubitt Square, Kings Cross

2017-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
That was, of course, meant to go to the Wikimedia UK mailing list, not
the OSM UK list.

I was wondering why so many replies were about mapping...

On 3 August 2017 at 13:47, Andy Mabbett  wrote:
> We appear to have no pics on Commons of Lewis Cubitt Square, a newly
> (2016?) created public open space behind Kings Cross station:
>
>https://www.kingscross.co.uk/lewis-cubitt-square
>
> If anyone is passing there, please take a few, and add one to:
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34622297
>
> The same goes for the other parts of that development, such as Lewis
> Cubitt Park:
>
> https://www.kingscross.co.uk/lewis-cubitt-park
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Lewis Cubitt Square, Kings Cross

2017-08-04 Thread Brian Prangle
While we're on this subject, it isn't readily apparent to me  which map
base the Guardian is using for this campaign. We should be lobbying them to
use an open source rather than an online POPS which does suggest a
delicious irony. But if they're using OSM  then good for them.  I've
already raised this with them but not received a reply

Regards

Brian

On 4 August 2017 at 14:16, Dan S  wrote:

> 2017-08-04 13:20 GMT+01:00 SK53 :
> > Personally I'm rather more interested in mapping POPS as they are
> becoming
> > an issue in larger cities.
>
> We could map the boundaries of POPS through a systematic procedure of
> standing in specific spots, looking like we don't want to buy
> anything, and waiting for the security guards' reaction?
>
> Dan
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Re: [Talk-GB] Lewis Cubitt Square, Kings Cross

2017-08-04 Thread Dan S
2017-08-04 13:20 GMT+01:00 SK53 :
> Personally I'm rather more interested in mapping POPS as they are becoming
> an issue in larger cities.

We could map the boundaries of POPS through a systematic procedure of
standing in specific spots, looking like we don't want to buy
anything, and waiting for the security guards' reaction?

Dan

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Re: [Talk-GB] Lewis Cubitt Square, Kings Cross

2017-08-04 Thread SK53
See for example:
https://www.nicholasgooddenphotography.co.uk/london-blog/permit-for-photography-london.
I think it's entirely reasonable to warn people about such issues.

I think I may have taken photos of Granary Square but not sure if from
within the private bounds.

Personally I'm rather more interested in mapping POPS as they are becoming
an issue in larger cities.

Jerry

On 4 August 2017 at 12:57, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> On 4 August 2017 at 09:23, SK53  wrote:
>
> > Isn't this one of the Pops (privately-owned public-space) recently
> mapped by
> > GiGL? In which case the landowner might forbid photographs.
>
> That doesn't mean that photographs cannot be taken; just that if they
> ask a photographer to stop or leave, they should do so. (And good luck
> to them spotting, let alone stopping, everyone who takes a pic with
> their mobile phone.)
>
> Nor can they stop people taking pictures from adjacent public spaces,
> such as the highway.
>
> In either case, once the pics are taken, Wikipedia and its sister
> projects can use them.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Lewis Cubitt Square, Kings Cross

2017-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 4 August 2017 at 09:23, SK53  wrote:

> Isn't this one of the Pops (privately-owned public-space) recently mapped by
> GiGL? In which case the landowner might forbid photographs.

That doesn't mean that photographs cannot be taken; just that if they
ask a photographer to stop or leave, they should do so. (And good luck
to them spotting, let alone stopping, everyone who takes a pic with
their mobile phone.)

Nor can they stop people taking pictures from adjacent public spaces,
such as the highway.

In either case, once the pics are taken, Wikipedia and its sister
projects can use them.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Lewis Cubitt Square, Kings Cross

2017-08-04 Thread SK53
Isn't this one of the Pops (privately-owned public-space) recently mapped
by GiGL? In which case the landowner might forbid photographs.

Jerry

On 3 Aug 2017 20:44, "Andy Mabbett"  wrote:

> We appear to have no pics on Commons of Lewis Cubitt Square, a newly
> (2016?) created public open space behind Kings Cross station:
>
>https://www.kingscross.co.uk/lewis-cubitt-square
>
> If anyone is passing there, please take a few, and add one to:
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34622297
>
> The same goes for the other parts of that development, such as Lewis
> Cubitt Park:
>
> https://www.kingscross.co.uk/lewis-cubitt-park
>
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[Talk-GB] Lewis Cubitt Square, Kings Cross

2017-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
We appear to have no pics on Commons of Lewis Cubitt Square, a newly
(2016?) created public open space behind Kings Cross station:

   https://www.kingscross.co.uk/lewis-cubitt-square

If anyone is passing there, please take a few, and add one to:

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q34622297

The same goes for the other parts of that development, such as Lewis
Cubitt Park:

https://www.kingscross.co.uk/lewis-cubitt-park

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