Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
More info on this - it seems to be a bunch of people working for this company: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH I've had no reply from the mapper that I tried to contact (although they have fixed at least one of the problems that they created) so I've tried again via direct message, comment on the firm's OSM wiki page and an OSM message to the company's main OSM account. What concerns me is that they're still editing (with various accounts). It's relatively easy to trace straight lines from Bing, but it needs experience and interpretation (and a local survey!) to see how everything on the ground relates to everything else. Based on their error rate so far I'd definitely still suggest that local mappers check their edits. Cheers, Andy On 08/11/2014 22:51, SomeoneElse wrote: An anonymous note adder (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267719) and someone on IRC noticed some problematical railway edits near Sutton-in-Ashfield: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311380489#map=15/53.1247/-1.2346layers=N It looks like an attempt to dual the Robin Hood line went a bit wrong and ended up slicing through an industrial estate and some areas of housing (though I'm sure it was cock-up rather than conspiracy as Sir Bernard Ingham would have said). Looking at some other edits in the same changeset, there are some other, less obvious, issues too, which I've added to the changeset discussion: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26590071 The most obvious problem seems to be tracing the railway in but not joining properly to other features (such as crossings). Some information (e.g. cutting=yes) has also been lost. Another local changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26587435 has some similar issues. There have been a number of other edits, some with rather a lot of deletions in them, including: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26613977 All of these changesets could probably also benefit from a review from local mappers to identify potential issues. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
Yes, I looked at the first user in the list and the first page of changesets loaded with one close to me which is a railway platform apparently in the middle of a housing estate. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24439915 As it’s a U_Bahn entry I'm assuming its meant to be a platform on an underground line that’s just totally in the wrong geographical location. However the name of station 1 might suggest its someone practicing too. Reverting and will look for others in the west mids area. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Sent: 12 November 2014 10:23 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. More info on this - it seems to be a bunch of people working for this company: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH I've had no reply from the mapper that I tried to contact (although they have fixed at least one of the problems that they created) so I've tried again via direct message, comment on the firm's OSM wiki page and an OSM message to the company's main OSM account. What concerns me is that they're still editing (with various accounts). It's relatively easy to trace straight lines from Bing, but it needs experience and interpretation (and a local survey!) to see how everything on the ground relates to everything else. Based on their error rate so far I'd definitely still suggest that local mappers check their edits. Cheers, Andy On 08/11/2014 22:51, SomeoneElse wrote: An anonymous note adder (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267719) and someone on IRC noticed some problematical railway edits near Sutton-in-Ashfield: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311380489#map=15/53.1247/-1.2346laye rs=N It looks like an attempt to dual the Robin Hood line went a bit wrong and ended up slicing through an industrial estate and some areas of housing (though I'm sure it was cock-up rather than conspiracy as Sir Bernard Ingham would have said). Looking at some other edits in the same changeset, there are some other, less obvious, issues too, which I've added to the changeset discussion: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26590071 The most obvious problem seems to be tracing the railway in but not joining properly to other features (such as crossings). Some information (e.g. cutting=yes) has also been lost. Another local changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26587435 has some similar issues. There have been a number of other edits, some with rather a lot of deletions in them, including: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26613977 All of these changesets could probably also benefit from a review from local mappers to identify potential issues. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
Interestingly, the source given is the German phrase for surveyed in the field... Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 12 November 2014 10:52, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I looked at the first user in the list and the first page of changesets loaded with one close to me which is a railway platform apparently in the middle of a housing estate. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24439915 As it’s a U_Bahn entry I'm assuming its meant to be a platform on an underground line that’s just totally in the wrong geographical location. However the name of station 1 might suggest its someone practicing too. Reverting and will look for others in the west mids area. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Sent: 12 November 2014 10:23 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. More info on this - it seems to be a bunch of people working for this company: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH I've had no reply from the mapper that I tried to contact (although they have fixed at least one of the problems that they created) so I've tried again via direct message, comment on the firm's OSM wiki page and an OSM message to the company's main OSM account. What concerns me is that they're still editing (with various accounts). It's relatively easy to trace straight lines from Bing, but it needs experience and interpretation (and a local survey!) to see how everything on the ground relates to everything else. Based on their error rate so far I'd definitely still suggest that local mappers check their edits. Cheers, Andy On 08/11/2014 22:51, SomeoneElse wrote: An anonymous note adder (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267719) and someone on IRC noticed some problematical railway edits near Sutton-in-Ashfield: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311380489#map=15/53.1247/-1.2346laye rs=N It looks like an attempt to dual the Robin Hood line went a bit wrong and ended up slicing through an industrial estate and some areas of housing (though I'm sure it was cock-up rather than conspiracy as Sir Bernard Ingham would have said). Looking at some other edits in the same changeset, there are some other, less obvious, issues too, which I've added to the changeset discussion: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26590071 The most obvious problem seems to be tracing the railway in but not joining properly to other features (such as crossings). Some information (e.g. cutting=yes) has also been lost. Another local changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26587435 has some similar issues. There have been a number of other edits, some with rather a lot of deletions in them, including: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26613977 All of these changesets could probably also benefit from a review from local mappers to identify potential issues. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
Greetings, all. Mentz (aka mdv) is a German company that provides the journey planner used by a number of the traveline regions, as well as for Transport for London. As you may recall from my previous posts, a number traveline regions are now using OSM as the GIS. We found a problem (internally) with how railways were mapped, and mdv told us that they had found a way around it. It looks like that involved amending things in ways that are not appropriate. Please pass the details back to me, and I will discuss it with them and also with the community if things need reverting. Regards, Stuart -Original Message- From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Sent: 12 November 2014 10:23 AM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. More info on this - it seems to be a bunch of people working for this company: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH I've had no reply from the mapper that I tried to contact (although they have fixed at least one of the problems that they created) so I've tried again via direct message, comment on the firm's OSM wiki page and an OSM message to the company's main OSM account. What concerns me is that they're still editing (with various accounts). It's relatively easy to trace straight lines from Bing, but it needs experience and interpretation (and a local survey!) to see how everything on the ground relates to everything else. Based on their error rate so far I'd definitely still suggest that local mappers check their edits. Cheers, Andy On 08/11/2014 22:51, SomeoneElse wrote: An anonymous note adder (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267719) and someone on IRC noticed some problematical railway edits near Sutton-in-Ashfield: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311380489#map=15/53.1247/-1.2346laye rs=N It looks like an attempt to dual the Robin Hood line went a bit wrong and ended up slicing through an industrial estate and some areas of housing (though I'm sure it was cock-up rather than conspiracy as Sir Bernard Ingham would have said). Looking at some other edits in the same changeset, there are some other, less obvious, issues too, which I've added to the changeset discussion: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26590071 The most obvious problem seems to be tracing the railway in but not joining properly to other features (such as crossings). Some information (e.g. cutting=yes) has also been lost. Another local changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26587435 has some similar issues. There have been a number of other edits, some with rather a lot of deletions in them, including: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26613977 All of these changesets could probably also benefit from a review from local mappers to identify potential issues. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
Here's just one example of an odd type of edit. Adding priority=yard to rail objects. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/96973880 I did not see anything on the schema page to suggest odd tags: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=detl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2F%25C3%2596V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH%2FModellierungsvorschl%25C3%25A4ge Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Stuart Reynolds [mailto:stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk] Sent: 12 November 2014 10:59 To: SomeoneElse; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: project Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. Greetings, all. Mentz (aka mdv) is a German company that provides the journey planner used by a number of the traveline regions, as well as for Transport for London. As you may recall from my previous posts, a number traveline regions are now using OSM as the GIS. We found a problem (internally) with how railways were mapped, and mdv told us that they had found a way around it. It looks like that involved amending things in ways that are not appropriate. Please pass the details back to me, and I will discuss it with them and also with the community if things need reverting. Regards, Stuart -Original Message- From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Sent: 12 November 2014 10:23 AM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. More info on this - it seems to be a bunch of people working for this company: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH I've had no reply from the mapper that I tried to contact (although they have fixed at least one of the problems that they created) so I've tried again via direct message, comment on the firm's OSM wiki page and an OSM message to the company's main OSM account. What concerns me is that they're still editing (with various accounts). It's relatively easy to trace straight lines from Bing, but it needs experience and interpretation (and a local survey!) to see how everything on the ground relates to everything else. Based on their error rate so far I'd definitely still suggest that local mappers check their edits. Cheers, Andy On 08/11/2014 22:51, SomeoneElse wrote: An anonymous note adder (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267719) and someone on IRC noticed some problematical railway edits near Sutton-in-Ashfield: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311380489#map=15/53.1247/-1.2346laye rs=N It looks like an attempt to dual the Robin Hood line went a bit wrong and ended up slicing through an industrial estate and some areas of housing (though I'm sure it was cock-up rather than conspiracy as Sir Bernard Ingham would have said). Looking at some other edits in the same changeset, there are some other, less obvious, issues too, which I've added to the changeset discussion: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26590071 The most obvious problem seems to be tracing the railway in but not joining properly to other features (such as crossings). Some information (e.g. cutting=yes) has also been lost. Another local changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26587435 has some similar issues. There have been a number of other edits, some with rather a lot of deletions in them, including: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26613977 All of these changesets could probably also benefit from a review from local mappers to identify potential issues. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
OK. I agree that it is odd, but my ability to influence them will be restricted to UK edits that they will have done (theoretically) to resolve issues that we have raised with them. I'll take a look at some of the other edits referred to in the trail below. Regards, Stuart -Original Message- From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 November 2014 11:09 AM To: Stuart Reynolds; 'SomeoneElse'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: project Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. Here's just one example of an odd type of edit. Adding priority=yard to rail objects. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/96973880 I did not see anything on the schema page to suggest odd tags: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=detl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2F%25C3%2596V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH%2FModellierungsvorschl%25C3%25A4ge Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Stuart Reynolds [mailto:stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk] Sent: 12 November 2014 10:59 To: SomeoneElse; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: project Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. Greetings, all. Mentz (aka mdv) is a German company that provides the journey planner used by a number of the traveline regions, as well as for Transport for London. As you may recall from my previous posts, a number traveline regions are now using OSM as the GIS. We found a problem (internally) with how railways were mapped, and mdv told us that they had found a way around it. It looks like that involved amending things in ways that are not appropriate. Please pass the details back to me, and I will discuss it with them and also with the community if things need reverting. Regards, Stuart -Original Message- From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Sent: 12 November 2014 10:23 AM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. More info on this - it seems to be a bunch of people working for this company: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH I've had no reply from the mapper that I tried to contact (although they have fixed at least one of the problems that they created) so I've tried again via direct message, comment on the firm's OSM wiki page and an OSM message to the company's main OSM account. What concerns me is that they're still editing (with various accounts). It's relatively easy to trace straight lines from Bing, but it needs experience and interpretation (and a local survey!) to see how everything on the ground relates to everything else. Based on their error rate so far I'd definitely still suggest that local mappers check their edits. Cheers, Andy On 08/11/2014 22:51, SomeoneElse wrote: An anonymous note adder (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267719) and someone on IRC noticed some problematical railway edits near Sutton-in-Ashfield: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311380489#map=15/53.1247/-1.2346laye rs=N It looks like an attempt to dual the Robin Hood line went a bit wrong and ended up slicing through an industrial estate and some areas of housing (though I'm sure it was cock-up rather than conspiracy as Sir Bernard Ingham would have said). Looking at some other edits in the same changeset, there are some other, less obvious, issues too, which I've added to the changeset discussion: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26590071 The most obvious problem seems to be tracing the railway in but not joining properly to other features (such as crossings). Some information (e.g. cutting=yes) has also been lost. Another local changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26587435 has some similar issues. There have been a number of other edits, some with rather a lot of deletions in them, including: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26613977 All of these changesets could probably also benefit from a review from local mappers to identify potential issues. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
On 12/11/2014 10:59, Stuart Reynolds wrote: Please pass the details back to me, and I will discuss it with them and also with the community if things need reverting. Thanks Stuart. All of my detailed comments so far have been on changesets. I went through http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26590071 in some detail (since I'm very familiar with the area), and also http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26587435 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26588170?way_page=2 . The user concerned has tried to fix some but not all of the issues raised, but the biggest issue so far I think is the lack of communication with the UK community (I've not had any reply to messages to that user)* Meaningful changeset comments (i.e. not just modified railway like on http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26597441 ) would also help. If these really are just source=bing (as that last changeset suggests then there are going to be some major issues with Bing offset). Cheers, Andy * though I have just now had a reply from a message to the main OSM MDV account ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
According to http://hdyc.neis-one.org .The ÖV Firma Mentz Datenverarbeitung GmbH users that have edited in the UK are: tklug thomas-oliver-berlin mjessen Gavaasuren haytigran rotkelch taoxue I'm sure many edits are perfectly valid, but clearly there are concerns with some. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Stuart Reynolds [mailto:stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk] Sent: 12 November 2014 11:25 To: Andy Robinson; 'SomeoneElse'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: project Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. OK. I agree that it is odd, but my ability to influence them will be restricted to UK edits that they will have done (theoretically) to resolve issues that we have raised with them. I'll take a look at some of the other edits referred to in the trail below. Regards, Stuart -Original Message- From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 November 2014 11:09 AM To: Stuart Reynolds; 'SomeoneElse'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: project Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. Here's just one example of an odd type of edit. Adding priority=yard to rail objects. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/96973880 I did not see anything on the schema page to suggest odd tags: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=detl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2F%25C3%2596V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH%2FModellierungsvorschl%25C3%25A4ge Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Stuart Reynolds [mailto:stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk] Sent: 12 November 2014 10:59 To: SomeoneElse; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: project Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. Greetings, all. Mentz (aka mdv) is a German company that provides the journey planner used by a number of the traveline regions, as well as for Transport for London. As you may recall from my previous posts, a number traveline regions are now using OSM as the GIS. We found a problem (internally) with how railways were mapped, and mdv told us that they had found a way around it. It looks like that involved amending things in ways that are not appropriate. Please pass the details back to me, and I will discuss it with them and also with the community if things need reverting. Regards, Stuart -Original Message- From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Sent: 12 November 2014 10:23 AM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. More info on this - it seems to be a bunch of people working for this company: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH I've had no reply from the mapper that I tried to contact (although they have fixed at least one of the problems that they created) so I've tried again via direct message, comment on the firm's OSM wiki page and an OSM message to the company's main OSM account. What concerns me is that they're still editing (with various accounts). It's relatively easy to trace straight lines from Bing, but it needs experience and interpretation (and a local survey!) to see how everything on the ground relates to everything else. Based on their error rate so far I'd definitely still suggest that local mappers check their edits. Cheers, Andy On 08/11/2014 22:51, SomeoneElse wrote: An anonymous note adder (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267719) and someone on IRC noticed some problematical railway edits near Sutton-in-Ashfield: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311380489#map=15/53.1247/-1.2346laye rs=N It looks like an attempt to dual the Robin Hood line went a bit wrong and ended up slicing through an industrial estate and some areas of housing (though I'm sure it was cock-up rather than conspiracy as Sir Bernard Ingham would have said). Looking at some other edits in the same changeset, there are some other, less obvious, issues too, which I've added to the changeset discussion: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26590071 The most obvious problem seems to be tracing the railway in but not joining properly to other features (such as crossings). Some information (e.g. cutting=yes) has also been lost. Another local changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26587435 has some similar issues. There have been a number of other edits, some with rather a lot of deletions in them, including: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26613977 All of these changesets could probably also benefit from a review from local mappers to identify potential issues. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list
Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
On 12/11/14 11:40, Andy Robinson wrote: According to http://hdyc.neis-one.org .The ÖV Firma Mentz Datenverarbeitung GmbH users that have edited in the UK are: tklug thomas-oliver-berlin mjessen Gavaasuren haytigran rotkelch taoxue I don't see anything to link that last one to mentzdv? Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
taoxue is listed on: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH#Users_that_work_for_us Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Tom Hughes [mailto:t...@compton.nu] Sent: 12 November 2014 12:03 To: Andy Robinson; 'Stuart Reynolds'; 'SomeoneElse'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: 'project' Subject: Re: Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. On 12/11/14 11:40, Andy Robinson wrote: According to http://hdyc.neis-one.org .The ÖV Firma Mentz Datenverarbeitung GmbH users that have edited in the UK are: tklug thomas-oliver-berlin mjessen Gavaasuren haytigran rotkelch taoxue I don't see anything to link that last one to mentzdv? Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
Mdv tell me that they have replied to SomeoneElse - presumably privately, as I didn't see it on the list - and have withdrawn the editor in question. They will also send a response to the list. Regards, Stuart -Original Message- From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 November 2014 1:31 PM To: 'Tom Hughes'; Stuart Reynolds; 'SomeoneElse'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: project Subject: RE: Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. taoxue is listed on: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96V_Firma_Mentz_Datenverarbeitung_GmbH#Users_that_work_for_us Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Tom Hughes [mailto:t...@compton.nu] Sent: 12 November 2014 12:03 To: Andy Robinson; 'Stuart Reynolds'; 'SomeoneElse'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: 'project' Subject: Re: Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking. On 12/11/14 11:40, Andy Robinson wrote: According to http://hdyc.neis-one.org .The ÖV Firma Mentz Datenverarbeitung GmbH users that have edited in the UK are: tklug thomas-oliver-berlin mjessen Gavaasuren haytigran rotkelch taoxue I don't see anything to link that last one to mentzdv? Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
For completeness, I've also added a changeset discussion comment to: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26688781 Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.
An anonymous note adder (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267719) and someone on IRC noticed some problematical railway edits near Sutton-in-Ashfield: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311380489#map=15/53.1247/-1.2346layers=N It looks like an attempt to dual the Robin Hood line went a bit wrong and ended up slicing through an industrial estate and some areas of housing (though I'm sure it was cock-up rather than conspiracy as Sir Bernard Ingham would have said). Looking at some other edits in the same changeset, there are some other, less obvious, issues too, which I've added to the changeset discussion: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26590071 The most obvious problem seems to be tracing the railway in but not joining properly to other features (such as crossings). Some information (e.g. cutting=yes) has also been lost. Another local changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26587435 has some similar issues. There have been a number of other edits, some with rather a lot of deletions in them, including: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26613977 All of these changesets could probably also benefit from a review from local mappers to identify potential issues. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
