Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse

On 29/05/2015 09:16, David Woolley wrote:


There are ways of reversing changes exactly, but they are difficult to 
use if there have been ad hoc attempts to repair in the mean time, as 
you have to reverse those repairs first and you need to distinguish 
them from legitimate changes that happened to overlap.


Indeed, but in this case it's long enough (6 weeks, ish) ago that a 
revert probably isn't going to be practical.


Also, based on changeset comments, the addition of the coastline ways 
arround the Llyn to the national park boundary appears deliberate, so 
it's probably worth trying to discuss the changes with that mapper via a 
changeset discussion (who probably doesn't read this list).


Cheers,

Andy




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Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-29 Thread David Woolley

On 29/05/15 00:46, Colin Smale wrote:

Thanks to the people who pointed me at helpful tools. I have fixed it up
as best as I can for the moment - obviously erroneous stretches of
coastline have been removed, missing segments have been added where a
bridge has been inserted, that kind of thing. Geometrically it looks OK,
and it seems very roughly to correspond to the illustrative map on
Wikipedia.


There are ways of reversing changes exactly, but they are difficult to 
use if there have been ad hoc attempts to repair in the mean time, as 
you have to reverse those repairs first and you need to distinguish them 
from legitimate changes that happened to overlap.



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Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-28 Thread Dave F.

You're correct, it is a bit screwed up

http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeMap?relationId=287245

http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation?relationId=287245_noCache=on

History should be listed here:
http://osm.virtuelle-loipe.de/history/

Dave F.

On 28/05/2015 20:12, Colin Smale wrote:


Hi everyone,

The boundary relation for Snowdonia National Park is severely messed 
up at the moment.


Is there anyone who can sort this out? I don't mind doing the editing 
but I kind of resent fixing somebody else's damage and I haven't got a 
source for the boundary vectors.


The latest editor of the relation is SK53 but he is a respected, 
experienced mapper and I don't believe he would do this. Querying the 
history on the website just times out so I can't easily see when it 
went pear-shaped and how it used to be


http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287245

Cheers,

Colin



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[Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-28 Thread Colin Smale
 

Hi everyone, 

The boundary relation for Snowdonia National Park is severely messed up
at the moment. 

Is there anyone who can sort this out? I don't mind doing the editing
but I kind of resent fixing somebody else's damage and I haven't got a
source for the boundary vectors. 

The latest editor of the relation is SK53 but he is a respected,
experienced mapper and I don't believe he would do this. Querying the
history on the website just times out so I can't easily see when it went
pear-shaped and how it used to be 

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287245 [1] 

Cheers, 

Colin 

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Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-28 Thread SomeoneElse

On 28/05/2015 20:12, Colin Smale wrote:


 Querying the history on the website just times out so I can't easily 
see when it went pear-shaped and how it used to be


http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287245




http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=287245

shows recent changes to it (I haven't been through and seen what should 
/ shouldn't have been deleted).


Cheers,

Andy


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Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-28 Thread Colin Smale
 

Dammit, how did I miss that one? Thanks for pointing it out. It's fixed
now and the analyser now comes up green. 

On 2015-05-29 01:57, Dave F. wrote: 

 Hi Colin
 
 FYI
 There appears to be a minor overlap on the Eastern marker:
 http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeMap?relationId=287245 [2]
 
 On 29/05/2015 00:46, Colin Smale wrote: 
 
 Thanks to the people who pointed me at helpful tools. I have fixed it up as 
 best as I can for the moment - obviously erroneous stretches of coastline 
 have been removed, missing segments have been added where a bridge has been 
 inserted, that kind of thing. Geometrically it looks OK, and it seems very 
 roughly to correspond to the illustrative map on Wikipedia. 
 
 //colin 
 
 On 2015-05-28 21:12, Colin Smale wrote: 
 
 Hi everyone, 
 
 The boundary relation for Snowdonia National Park is severely messed up at 
 the moment. 
 
 Is there anyone who can sort this out? I don't mind doing the editing but I 
 kind of resent fixing somebody else's damage and I haven't got a source for 
 the boundary vectors. 
 
 The latest editor of the relation is SK53 but he is a respected, experienced 
 mapper and I don't believe he would do this. Querying the history on the 
 website just times out so I can't easily see when it went pear-shaped and how 
 it used to be 
 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287245 [3] 
 
 Cheers, 
 
 Colin 
 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-28 Thread Colin Smale
 

Thanks to the people who pointed me at helpful tools. I have fixed it up
as best as I can for the moment - obviously erroneous stretches of
coastline have been removed, missing segments have been added where a
bridge has been inserted, that kind of thing. Geometrically it looks OK,
and it seems very roughly to correspond to the illustrative map on
Wikipedia. 

//colin 

On 2015-05-28 21:12, Colin Smale wrote: 

 Hi everyone, 
 
 The boundary relation for Snowdonia National Park is severely messed up at 
 the moment. 
 
 Is there anyone who can sort this out? I don't mind doing the editing but I 
 kind of resent fixing somebody else's damage and I haven't got a source for 
 the boundary vectors. 
 
 The latest editor of the relation is SK53 but he is a respected, experienced 
 mapper and I don't believe he would do this. Querying the history on the 
 website just times out so I can't easily see when it went pear-shaped and how 
 it used to be 
 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287245 [1] 
 
 Cheers, 
 
 Colin 
 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-28 Thread Dave F.

Hi Colin

FYI
There appears to be a minor overlap on the Eastern marker:
http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeMap?relationId=287245

On 29/05/2015 00:46, Colin Smale wrote:


Thanks to the people who pointed me at helpful tools. I have fixed it 
up as best as I can for the moment - obviously erroneous stretches of 
coastline have been removed, missing segments have been added where a 
bridge has been inserted, that kind of thing. Geometrically it looks 
OK, and it seems very roughly to correspond to the illustrative map on 
Wikipedia.


//colin

On 2015-05-28 21:12, Colin Smale wrote:


Hi everyone,

The boundary relation for Snowdonia National Park is severely messed 
up at the moment.


Is there anyone who can sort this out? I don't mind doing the editing 
but I kind of resent fixing somebody else's damage and I haven't got 
a source for the boundary vectors.


The latest editor of the relation is SK53 but he is a respected, 
experienced mapper and I don't believe he would do this. Querying the 
history on the website just times out so I can't easily see when it 
went pear-shaped and how it used to be


http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287245

Cheers,

Colin


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