Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

2015-12-16 Thread Bob Hawkins
Paul, Jon and Robert
I thank you all for your very prompt and constructive replies.  I have 
downloaded the AONB boundaries that Jon pointed me to, in both .tab and .shp 
format (I am amazed always at what valuable information to hand people have and 
the wonderful benefit of forums and mailing lists!).  The boundaries seem to be 
just what I was looking for.  I should make clear: my use of The Chilterns AONB 
boundary is for my purpose only to assist the delineation of my area of 
interest.
Bob

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Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

2015-12-16 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 16 December 2015 at 15:36, Bob Hawkins  wrote:
>
> I am a retired cartographer who enjoys extending his connection with and love 
> of mapping by contributing to OpenStreetMap (OSM).  My current project is to 
> improve Public Rights of Way (PROW) attributes and add their PROW and 
> Chiltern Society references to ways in OSM.  I am concentrating on 
> Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire because that is my geographical area.  Their 
> local authorities make available downloads of their Public Rights of Way and 
> I have Ordnance Survey OpenData civil parish boundary data, too.  It would be 
> most useful to have a digital boundary of the Chilterns AONB.  I have 
> searched the internet and cannot find such a file to download.  I 
> communicated with Lucy Murfett, Planning Officer at Chilterns Conservation 
> Board and received this reply:

I think GIS data for AONB boundaries can be obtained from
http://www.gis.naturalengland.org.uk/ . However, the licence for the
data appears to be based on an old version of the Open Government
Licence (OGL), with an OS-OpenData-Licence style variation insisting
on stronger downstream attribution that OSM can guarantee. IMO this
means we can't use those datasets in OSM at the moment.

However, the reason Natural England have used that licence is almost
certainly because of requirements placed on them by Ordnance Survey.
Ordnance Survey have recently changed for using a customised version
of the OGL to using the OGL version 3.0 un-modified. Thus Natural
England should be able to do the same, at which point we'd be able to
make use of their data sets.

Robert.

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Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

2015-12-16 Thread Jon Burgess
On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 15:36 +, Bob Hawkins wrote:
> Neither of these sites seem to offer the opportunity to download a
> digital file.  I wonder if an OSM user here can help?

There is a download option for the AONB data in this list of files:

http://www.geostore.com/environment-agency/WebStore?xml=environment-agency/xml/ogcDataDownload.xml

I haven't checked the licensing so cannot make any comment about its
suitability for use in OSM.

Jon


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[Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

2015-12-16 Thread Bob Hawkins
I am a retired cartographer who enjoys extending his connection with and love 
of mapping by contributing to OpenStreetMap (OSM).  My current project is to 
improve Public Rights of Way (PROW) attributes and add their PROW and Chiltern 
Society references to ways in OSM.  I am concentrating on Oxfordshire and 
Buckinghamshire because that is my geographical area.  Their local authorities 
make available downloads of their Public Rights of Way and I have Ordnance 
Survey OpenData civil parish boundary data, too.  It would be most useful to 
have a digital boundary of the Chilterns AONB.  I have searched the internet 
and cannot find such a file to download.  I communicated with Lucy Murfett, 
Planning Officer at Chilterns Conservation Board and received this reply:

Dear Bob,

Thanks for your message and great that you are able to give your time to 
improving this map resource. I am attaching an AONB boundary map with an OS 
base.

I love using GIS but I’m afraid I am not knowledgeable about how to share 
layers or know whether we have permission to do this. Have you tried accessing 
the AONB boundary on the Government’s websites:

http://www.magic.gov.uk/ or  
https://data.gov.uk/data/map-preview?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geostore.com%2FOGC%2FOGCInterface%3FSERVICE%3DWMS%26UID%3DUDATAGOV2011%26PASSWORD%3Ddatagov2011%26INTERFACE%3DENVIRONMENT%26LC%3D8000n=55.816w=-6.236e=2.072s=49.943

Neither of these sites seem to offer the opportunity to download a digital 
file.  I wonder if an OSM user here can help?


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Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

2015-12-16 Thread Paul Berry
Bob,

I can't offer any specific advice myself but it might be worthwhile
contacting the original creators of the AONBs that have already been mapped
on OSM to see if they can offer any specific advice on how they came by
their datasets.

Steve_NI
Dashers
UniEagle
jochta

User jochta has mapped the North Wessex Downs AONB which I understand
shares a boundary with the Chilterns AONB so you might start with them :)

Existing AONB relations are here:
http://ra.osmsurround.org/searchRelation?name=aonb

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Paul Berry

On 16 December 2015 at 15:36, Bob Hawkins  wrote:

> I am a retired cartographer who enjoys extending his connection with and
> love of mapping by contributing to OpenStreetMap (OSM).  My current project
> is to improve Public Rights of Way (PROW) attributes and add their PROW and
> Chiltern Society references to ways in OSM.  I am concentrating on
> Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire because that is my geographical area.
> Their local authorities make available downloads of their Public Rights of
> Way and I have Ordnance Survey OpenData civil parish boundary data, too.
> It would be most useful to have a digital boundary of the Chilterns AONB.
> I have searched the internet and cannot find such a file to download.  I
> communicated with Lucy Murfett, Planning Officer at Chilterns Conservation
> Board and received this reply:
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> Thanks for your message and great that you are able to give your time to
> improving this map resource. I am attaching an AONB boundary map with an OS
> base.
>
> I love using GIS but I’m afraid I am not knowledgeable about how to share
> layers or know whether we have permission to do this. Have you tried
> accessing the AONB boundary on the Government’s websites:
>
> http://www.magic.gov.uk/ or
> https://data.gov.uk/data/map-preview?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geostore.com%2FOGC%2FOGCInterface%3FSERVICE%3DWMS%26UID%3DUDATAGOV2011%26PASSWORD%3Ddatagov2011%26INTERFACE%3DENVIRONMENT%26LC%3D8000n=55.816w=-6.236e=2.072s=49.943
>
> Neither of these sites seem to offer the opportunity to download a digital
> file.  I wonder if an OSM user here can help?
>
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