Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Why is Billy parish in Antrim shown as in Athlone Municipal District?

[Marc Gemis]

Brian,

I looked at 
https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?osmtype=R&osmid=10993573&class=boundary
Normally this allows me to understand why a certain admin hierarchy is
returned. In this case, I do not understand why the distance is 0.1746
for the Athlone Municipal District.
It seems to be the admin level 8 that is closest to the centre of
Billy Parish. But as it is a relation, it should be returned when the
object is outside. (perhaps the relation was not properly closed at
the time Nominatim imported the data?)

If none here replies you should reach out to the Nominatim maintainers.

regards
m

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 wrote:
>
> During the stay at home I have added many CofI parishes to OSM based on
> single or combinations of civil parishes.
> Please see Billy Parish 10993573, it suggests it is in County Roscommon!!
> This applies to a number of others as well. Please can somebody explain why
> to me and also how or who can rectify it. While they all display OK it
> might be disconcerting to a person doing a search.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Why is Billy parish in Antrim shown as in Athlone Municipal District?

[Marc Gemis]

 it should be returned when the object is outside. => it should NOT be
returned when the object is outside

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 3:16 PM Marc Gemis  wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> I looked at 
> https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?osmtype=R&osmid=10993573&class=boundary
> Normally this allows me to understand why a certain admin hierarchy is
> returned. In this case, I do not understand why the distance is 0.1746
> for the Athlone Municipal District.
> It seems to be the admin level 8 that is closest to the centre of
> Billy Parish. But as it is a relation, it should be returned when the
> object is outside. (perhaps the relation was not properly closed at
> the time Nominatim imported the data?)
>
> If none here replies you should reach out to the Nominatim maintainers.
>
> regards
> m
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:40 PM Brian Hollinshead
>  wrote:
> >
> > During the stay at home I have added many CofI parishes to OSM based on
> > single or combinations of civil parishes.
> > Please see Billy Parish 10993573, it suggests it is in County Roscommon!!
> > This applies to a number of others as well. Please can somebody explain why
> > to me and also how or who can rectify it. While they all display OK it
> > might be disconcerting to a person doing a search.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] What are your 'must map' features?

[Marc Gemis]

Rebecca,

Thanks for the offer, but as I wrote, I do not map in Ireland. I'm a
Belgian following this mailing list.
However, I do hope someone on this list might get interested in the
topic and start mapping those objects in Ireland.
I wrote an OSM diary entry on the subject a while ago [1].  As you can
see from my list of Wikimedia Commons contributions [2], I do try to
photograph the less popular, or smaller heritage items. (and some
artwork as well)

regards

m

[1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/escada/diary/40782
[2] 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles/Funkyxian&ilshowall=1

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 4:56 PM Rebecca O'Neill  wrote:
>
> I'm happy to help with some of the Wikimedia Commons element if I can.
> Right now we are running a photography competition to get people to take
> photos of National Monuments and structures listed by the National
> Inventory of Architectural Heritage and upload them to Commons:
> www.wikilovesmonuments.ie
> I'd love to see a lot of the more obscure images (that won't ever have a
> dedicated article) be used!
>
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 14:53, Marc Gemis  wrote:
>
> > (although I do not map in Ireland):
> >
> > * turn:lanes and destination signs, I find this very useful when they
> > are mapped.
> > * wayside shrines (or listed buildings in general) with photos on
> > Wikimedia Commons
> > * dog parks
> >
> > m.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:26 AM Colm Moore 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > So, for whatever reason, some of us are interested in specific
> > localities or projects, e.g. minutely mapping a whole village or
> > neighbourhood, all the roads in a county or perhaps something more
> > specific, e.g. mapping all shops in a chain or technical, e.g. I do a fair
> > bit of debugging of disconnected roads.
> > >
> > > There are some features that I feel I 'must' map, e.g. if something has
> > a reference number (road, bus stop, rubbish bin (Dublin City Council has
> > them)), I want to map it. I *really* like mapping / filling in details on
> > electrical transformers (I'm the most recent editor of 2,274 of 2,285
> > transformers mapped in Ireland). I can smell them at 50 metres! :) Or
> > rather, I've mapped so many I can tell in a neighbourhood where I am likely
> > to find one.
> > >
> > > I also run scripts through Over-Pass Turbo a few times a month,
> > searching for police stations, post office infrastructure and power
> > facilities that need their tagging improved. I also map pipelines &
> > storage  tanks. I've mapped lots of railway, but there are relatively few
> > feature left to map.
> > >
> > > Most of the time, mapping driveways an houses bores me.
> > >
> > > Colm
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] What are your 'must map' features?

[Marc Gemis]

(although I do not map in Ireland):

* turn:lanes and destination signs, I find this very useful when they
are mapped.
* wayside shrines (or listed buildings in general) with photos on
Wikimedia Commons
* dog parks

m.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:26 AM Colm Moore  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> So, for whatever reason, some of us are interested in specific localities or 
> projects, e.g. minutely mapping a whole village or neighbourhood, all the 
> roads in a county or perhaps something more specific, e.g. mapping all shops 
> in a chain or technical, e.g. I do a fair bit of debugging of disconnected 
> roads.
>
> There are some features that I feel I 'must' map, e.g. if something has a 
> reference number (road, bus stop, rubbish bin (Dublin City Council has 
> them)), I want to map it. I *really* like mapping / filling in details on 
> electrical transformers (I'm the most recent editor of 2,274 of 2,285 
> transformers mapped in Ireland). I can smell them at 50 metres! :) Or rather, 
> I've mapped so many I can tell in a neighbourhood where I am likely to find 
> one.
>
> I also run scripts through Over-Pass Turbo a few times a month, searching for 
> police stations, post office infrastructure and power facilities that need 
> their tagging improved. I also map pipelines & storage  tanks. I've mapped 
> lots of railway, but there are relatively few feature left to map.
>
> Most of the time, mapping driveways an houses bores me.
>
> Colm
>
>
> ---
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> the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

[Marc Gemis]

> > you can find linked Wikipedia articles with slightly different subjects
> > in different languages.
>
> All of these are yet more good reasons to tag with Wikidata, rather
> than Wikipedia.

From what I have heard there are sometimes (or often depending on the
source) mismatches between the subject of the Wikidata item and the
OSM object.
Not a problem if people only need some additional information and can
see that both subjects do not match entirely, but poses problems if a
program combines OSM and Wikidata data.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

[Marc Gemis]

AFAIK, one should use the main language of the area in which the
feature is located. I think it is supposed to follow the language used
to determine the name tag.
So for the Belgian/Flemish town Antwerpen (Antwerp in English), you
should use wikipedia=nl:Antwerpen (stad)
This links to the Wikipedia page: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_(stad)
Wikipedia knows that the English page is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerp (perhaps by using Wikidata
internally)
This link and links to over a hundred other languages is found on the left

So either the data consumer or Wikipedia should be able to direct you
immediately to the English page if your browser settings (or app
settings) indicate that you prefer English over Dutch.
I don't know whether Wikipedia actually does this.

There is no need to add more than 100 Wikipedia links (the number of
languages for which there is an article on Antwerpen) to OSM.

This is a problem for Brussels, where OSM has no real preference for
language. Should be point to the Dutch or French version?

Note that people pointed out in the past that you can find linked
Wikipedia articles with slightly different subjects in different
languages.

I am still not really happy with this, but hey, if this is what the
majority wants, I'm not going to be a dissident.

m.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:45 PM  wrote:
>
> How do I tag for this situation?
>
>  How is 'the proper' language decided?
>
> Phil
>
> On Wednesday, 20 March 2019, Marc Gemis wrote:
> > The reply that I got more than a year ago when the Mapbox team was
> > doing a similar quest, was that the Wikipedia pages for multiple
> > languages are linked and that the data consumer should display the
> > page in the proper language.
> >
> > m.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:53 AM  wrote:
> > >
> > > How do you intend to deal with bi-lingual areas where having Wikipedia 
> > > links in both languages is an important cultural consideration?
> > >
> > > Phil (trigpoint)
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, 19 March 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mar 19, 2019, 3:10 PM by r...@technomancy.org:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure why one would bother with this, but whatever.
> > > > >
> > > > It went as follows:
> > > >
> > > > - I made small prototype tool listing tourism attractions based on OSM 
> > > > data
> > > > - during development I discovered massive amount of broken wikipedia 
> > > > and wikidata tags
> > > > - due to scale and that problems were fixable by automatic edit I made 
> > > > a program for bot edits
> > > > (library parts ended on 
> > > > https://github.com/matkoniecz/osm_bot_abstraction_layer 
> > > > <https://github.com/matkoniecz/osm_bot_abstraction_layer> and
> > > > https://github.com/matkoniecz/wikibrain 
> > > > <https://github.com/matkoniecz/wikibrain> )
> > > > - I made bot edits that fixed tens of thousands objects in Poland
> > > > - in most cases (except one depending on links to TERYT, official 
> > > > government dataset in Poland)
> > > > scripts can be used in other regions
> > > > - so now I am checking whatever I would be allowed to run this script 
> > > > in various places,
> > > > including ones where some tagging issues are quite rare and would not 
> > > > justify
> > > > writing and testing an OSM bot - but running existing one is IMHO a 
> > > > good idea
> > > >
> > > > > Are they any cases where there are more than wikipedia:XX tag, and 
> > > > > what will you do in that case? What will the wikipedia tag be?
> > > > >
> > > > In case of existing matching wikipedia tag - there is no problem and 
> > > > wikipedia:XX tags
> > > > will be removed.
> > > >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

[Marc Gemis]

The reply that I got more than a year ago when the Mapbox team was
doing a similar quest, was that the Wikipedia pages for multiple
languages are linked and that the data consumer should display the
page in the proper language.

m.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:53 AM  wrote:
>
> How do you intend to deal with bi-lingual areas where having Wikipedia links 
> in both languages is an important cultural consideration?
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
> On Tuesday, 19 March 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> >
> > Mar 19, 2019, 3:10 PM by r...@technomancy.org:
> >
> > > I'm not sure why one would bother with this, but whatever.
> > >
> > It went as follows:
> >
> > - I made small prototype tool listing tourism attractions based on OSM data
> > - during development I discovered massive amount of broken wikipedia and 
> > wikidata tags
> > - due to scale and that problems were fixable by automatic edit I made a 
> > program for bot edits
> > (library parts ended on 
> > https://github.com/matkoniecz/osm_bot_abstraction_layer 
> >  and
> > https://github.com/matkoniecz/wikibrain 
> >  )
> > - I made bot edits that fixed tens of thousands objects in Poland
> > - in most cases (except one depending on links to TERYT, official 
> > government dataset in Poland)
> > scripts can be used in other regions
> > - so now I am checking whatever I would be allowed to run this script in 
> > various places,
> > including ones where some tagging issues are quite rare and would not 
> > justify
> > writing and testing an OSM bot - but running existing one is IMHO a good 
> > idea
> >
> > > Are they any cases where there are more than wikipedia:XX tag, and what 
> > > will you do in that case? What will the wikipedia tag be?
> > >
> > In case of existing matching wikipedia tag - there is no problem and 
> > wikipedia:XX tags
> > will be removed.
> >
> > Otherwise object will be skipped for a manual review.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Is data being corrupted?

[Marc Gemis]

the last edit date of ways or relations are only updated when their
tags or the list of their members change. Not when the members in the
relation of way change location or tags.
So the error you describe is only 6 days old, and Vincent de Philly
wrote a changeset comment 5 days ago
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/55504147)

m.

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Colm Moore  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please don't correct this error until we know what is happening. :)
>
> Of late, I've noticed some mapping errors, e.g. a node on a road that has 
> been dragged off-road by a few hundred metres. When I check the last edit, it 
> might not have been edited in 5 years. I thought it implausible that such 
> obvious errors would remain in place for so long. Indeed, I had sometimes 
> edited in the area and would have thought that I would have spotted an 
> obvious error (I readily admit I make errors also). Many of the issues are 
> thrown up by OSMI http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/
>
> Today, using OSMI, I see that the car park in Kilkenny train station is 
> wonky, but it hasn't been changed in two years. The boundary wall hasn't been 
> edited in 4 years. The thing is, I viewed that area recently (I don't 
> recollect why) and had to do a forced refresh of the browser (Ctrl F5) of the 
> area to make the background map match the object outline. Several users have 
> edited in the area in recent years and surely one of us would have spotted 
> the error. Interestingly, the car park is now attached to a node for a shop.
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/216942338 Edited about 4 years ago by 
> Vincent de Phily Version #2 · Changeset #20131140
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/100847087 Edited about 2 years ago by 
> wheelmap_visitor Version #7 · Changeset #35421480
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1165425462 Edited 6 days ago by Reilsky 
> Version #4 · Changeset #55504147
>
> --
>
> It may be justifiable for the last edit date not to be updated where an 
> object within a relation is edited, but the relation itself isn't edited.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Colm
>
> PS Thanks to OSMI people for the service they provide. :)
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mass edits

[Marc Gemis]

You could e.g. select them all in JOSM and edit them in one go. Or
write an Overpass query to download only certain data.

But since you are not inspecting them one-by-one, you are performing a
mechanical edit and have to follow
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct


m.

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:50 AM, Colm Moore  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Tidying up some addresses, I have a 47 entries where:
>
> * addr:city=Offaly
>
> * addr:housenumber=Shinrone
> * addr:street=Roscrea Road
>
> Where addr:city should be addr:county and addr:housenumber should be 
> addr:city. Let's ignore for the moment that the Roscrea Road name is 
> questionable at the Roscrea end.
>
> Similarly, I have:
> * addr:city=Swords, Co. Dublin (174) - space
> * addr:city=Swords, Co.Dublin (108) - no space
>
> They should all really be addr:city=Swords and addr:county=Dublin or at a 
> minimum, they should be the same.
>
> Fixing these manually is fine when there are only a few, but what is the 
> simplest way of rectifying these types of errors when there are dozens or 
> hundreds?
>
>
> Colm
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] What to do about sloppy mapping errors

[Marc Gemis]

Welcome Adrian,

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Adrian Thomas  wrote:
> I was quite disheartened next day when less than half of my
> new additions appeared on the map so I haven't been back.

This could be caused by a number of reasons:

- your browser was caching the old map tiles (a tile is a small jpeg file)
- the things you mapped are not rendered on the standard map style
- you made some tagging mistake.

Please let us know what and where you mapped features, so we can help
you understand what was going on.
There is no approval process, so everything you change goes straight
to the database and from there to the map.
Though, every map maker can filter out features that are not
interesting to them.

I would say, you are more than welcome to improve the map.

regards

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Wanted OSM shapefile of Ireland and province outlines, otherwise blank

[Marc Gemis]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Brian Hollinshead  wrote:
> Thank you Mark, but that link only gives Republic of Ireland. The Dna study
> is for the entire Island of Ireland and Rory has since added a boundary
> download for the provinces to the ones that were already on offer. They
> have tried it and it is splendid.

You have to select all the regions you need. Click on the little
triangle in front and you can select e.g. individual provinces (?).
You can select over multiple countries, etc. Press the info/help
button in the right corner to get more info on how to select multiple
regions.

I doubt that is any admin border in OSM that you cannot download. I
understand that Rory's dedicated download is easier, but this site
offers more flexibiity (world wide).

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Wanted OSM shapefile of Ireland and province outlines, otherwise blank

[Marc Gemis]

Is https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/ of any help to you ?

regards

m

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Brian Hollinshead
 wrote:
> The Genealogical Society of Ireland are collaborating with the Royal
> College of Surgeons in Ireland on local greatgrandparent DNA comparisions.
>
> They have been using OSM with leaflet layers showing the centroids, areas
> covered by each group of eight greatgrandparents and and their individual
> locations beside an interactive list of participants. (which my son and I
> did for them as they had some difficulties using Google)
>
> I have now been asked if I can provide them with an OSM shapefile of all
> Ireland with provincial boundaries but no other detail. They needed one for
> a poster for display at a conference in the Conway Institute in UCD this
> week and settled for just an Ireland outline. Because this study when
> complete will be published internationally i would like them to be able to
> use OSM for all map images.
>
> Please can someone either send me a file or explain to me how I can create
> one for them.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] SoTM talk about townlands

[Marc Gemis]

Good luck, I hope it gets accepted

m.

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Rory McCann  wrote:
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>
> Hi all,
>
> I've submitted the proposal now. Now we wait.
>
> Rory
>
> On 19/05/16 11:28, Rory McCann wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Lots of great content being added to that page, from many people!
>> :) The important part now is the proposal ("What is your session
>> about?") section at the top, since that what we have to submit by
>> Saturday. Please feel free to write something eye catching,
>> especially if you plan to be at SoTM and want to co-present it :)
>>
>> I'm going to submit the proposal tomorrow (Friday) to be sure it's
>> in on time.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>> On 17/05/16 11:03, Rory McCann wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>
>>> Let's start writing a proposal, and talk, for State of the Map
>>> about townlands. We have to submit the proposal by Saturday! So
>>> we should aim to have it finished by Friday (just in case)
>>
>>> I've started a pirate pad for collaborative editing here:
>>> http://piratepad.net/eO6nzIEI0A
>>
>>> Please have a look at edit it away. As you type, others can see
>>> what you're doing.
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Landuse

[Marc Gemis]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:11 AM, Colm Moore  wrote:
>> How all-encompassing should landuse=farmland be ?
>
> Is it a farm? For the farm house / buildings, one can use landuse=farm. Note 
> that OSM will over-ride general features (landuse=residential) with specific 
> features (landuse=grass, leisure=park) 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/53.33614/-6.22972

JOSM complains about using landuse=farm. IMHO you have to use farmyard
for the farm house / buildings.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Landuse

[Marc Gemis]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Rory McCann  wrote:
> Conversely, I've seen rough landuse=residental drawn over a few houses
> which are strung out in rural ireland. Most of the area inside the
> area is fields, not residential. That's not accurate. Map the
> individual houses, but you don't need a residential landuse for a few
> houses in rural areas.
>
> And not everywhere in OSM needs to be in a "landuse" tag.

Please explain, I am setting my first baby steps in landuse mapping
and want to know what I should do ?  I have heard other opinions as
well, but I'm interested why we should not cover the globe with
landuse/landcover/natural tags.
Isn't every land in use ? How can we calculate the total amount of
square meters of land used for living if you do not draw a
landuse=residential around each small group of houses ?

regards

m

p.s. In Belgium we usually do not have housing estates with a name. So
we need different criteria anyhow on when we draw a
landuse=residential area.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] User Accounts in Ireland (was Re: Mobile speed camera zones)

[Marc Gemis]

Unfortunately Joost's site does not include worldwide information. He
does not have to time to continue support for it. Sorry.


m.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Marc Gemis  wrote:
> I hoped for a moment that Pascal Neis' site would be helpful:
> http://osmstats.neis-one.org/?item=countries&country=Ireland
>
> but it only gives an overview on how many mappers a day (use the
> arrows next to the graphs) , not a total number of mappers.
>
> Joost Schouppe made a tool for that (he had a presentation on SOTM
> 2014). I'll ask him whether the site is still online
>
> regards
>
> m
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Daniel Cussen  wrote:
>> Ca, someone tell me how many user accounts there are than have edited
>> osm irl data (yes there is a reason)
>>
>> On 31/03/2014, Killyfole and District Development Assocation
>>  wrote:
>>> Colm,
>>>
>>> It is because no-one has added those details yet.  Road sections can be
>>> tagged with what ever
>>> data we wish to tag them with.  The OSM wiki describes how to use the tags.
>>> Speed on that
>>> section of way is tagging using maxspeed=*  We use the ref=* tag to record
>>> the road reference
>>> number ie R999, L etc
>>>
>>> The following link is a visual layer which colour codes the speed limits
>>> stored in the OSM
>>> database and shows it on an OSM map.  The small key on the right shows the
>>> legend/key for
>>> the colours.  As you zoom in, minor roads will appear. Grey roads indicate
>>> that we do not have
>>> data available for those sections.
>>>
>>> http://www.itoworld.com/map/35?lon=-7.03486&lat=53.36929&zoom=8&fullscreen=true
>>>
>>> Notice that the North speeds are a yellow/green colour, this is because the
>>> speed limits here
>>> are in miles per hour, not km/h.
>>>
>>> I suggest you come along to #osm-ie and have a chat.
>>>
>>> KDDA
>>>
>>>
>>>> However, with an adjacent minor road:
>>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/53.7570/-6.3205 it
>>>> does
>>>> not have "Lanes" or "Reference". Is this because it is an unclassified
>>>> road? How does one record the local road number?
>>>>
>>>> Colm
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[OSM-talk-ie] User Accounts in Ireland (was Re: Mobile speed camera zones)

[Marc Gemis]

I hoped for a moment that Pascal Neis' site would be helpful:
http://osmstats.neis-one.org/?item=countries&country=Ireland

but it only gives an overview on how many mappers a day (use the
arrows next to the graphs) , not a total number of mappers.

Joost Schouppe made a tool for that (he had a presentation on SOTM
2014). I'll ask him whether the site is still online

regards

m

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Daniel Cussen  wrote:
> Ca, someone tell me how many user accounts there are than have edited
> osm irl data (yes there is a reason)
>
> On 31/03/2014, Killyfole and District Development Assocation
>  wrote:
>> Colm,
>>
>> It is because no-one has added those details yet.  Road sections can be
>> tagged with what ever
>> data we wish to tag them with.  The OSM wiki describes how to use the tags.
>> Speed on that
>> section of way is tagging using maxspeed=*  We use the ref=* tag to record
>> the road reference
>> number ie R999, L etc
>>
>> The following link is a visual layer which colour codes the speed limits
>> stored in the OSM
>> database and shows it on an OSM map.  The small key on the right shows the
>> legend/key for
>> the colours.  As you zoom in, minor roads will appear. Grey roads indicate
>> that we do not have
>> data available for those sections.
>>
>> http://www.itoworld.com/map/35?lon=-7.03486&lat=53.36929&zoom=8&fullscreen=true
>>
>> Notice that the North speeds are a yellow/green colour, this is because the
>> speed limits here
>> are in miles per hour, not km/h.
>>
>> I suggest you come along to #osm-ie and have a chat.
>>
>> KDDA
>>
>>
>>> However, with an adjacent minor road:
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/53.7570/-6.3205 it
>>> does
>>> not have "Lanes" or "Reference". Is this because it is an unclassified
>>> road? How does one record the local road number?
>>>
>>> Colm
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Traffic islands / medians

[Marc Gemis]

Colm,

May I suggest to read to read some posts from the tagging mailing list

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-October/027218.html
continued in November
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-November/027225.html

It's the same topic. I don't know whether you will get the answer that you
need from it, but you might get some ideas.

regards

m

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm wondering what the best way is to deal with traffic islands - the
> parts of roads that aren't roadway / carriageway and aren't lateral
> footways / footpaths. Sometimes they are unmapped, sometimes they are
> mapped as pedestrian areas and/or pedestrian ways .
> On the road, they generally come in one of three fashions:1. No pedestrian
> access / no meaningful pedestrian use, e.g. Dorset Street Lower in Dublin,
> where  there are trees every 10 meters that block the way. Not mapped,
> other than as two separate roadways. Should these be mapped at all?
>
> https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3599777,-6.261141,3a,75y,44.35h,85.42t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0YTaJATDMDakjhiLjRa__w!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D0YTaJATDMDakjhiLjRa__w%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D219.34166%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
> 2. Those where pedestrian access is an important part of their use, e.g.
> at the central median on O'Connell Bridge in Dublin. Mapped as pedestrian
> area linked to pedestrian ways at the south end, but not the north end,
> effectively making it a cul de sac. I'm not sure how route planners treat
> areas.
>
> https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3470972,-6.2591266,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s7ed2ZerYJnbZnrW-0cHENQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D7ed2ZerYJnbZnrW-0cHENQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D94.366425%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
> 3. Traffic islands at signaled junctions generally, e.g. at the junction
> of O'Connell Bridge / D'Olier Street / Westmoreland Street. Mapped as
> pedestrian areas and pedestrian ways.
> Thank you
> Colm
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Eir lacking proper attribution

[Marc Gemis]

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Stephen Judge 
wrote:

> Although if they are using Mapbox, I would have though Mapbox
> would have included an attribion link to the OSM unless Eir removed it.
>

This problem has been mentioned several times in the past, e.g. here
[1][2][3]. AFAIK it is a setting, which is not always on by default.

regards


[1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Pieren/diary/21132
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8145220
[3] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lxbarth/diary/21769
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Dividing houses with returns as terrace

[Marc Gemis]

I hope I got the problem correct.

if you do not have the house numbers yet, use the number of segments in the
terracer plugin to split in even parts.
When you have the house numbers, fill in the lowest & highest number and
choose even-odd/all. In this case you preferable select the building, the
street, as well as one node of the building on the side where the lowest
number has to come before opening the dialog.

This only works for buildings that are nice rectangles.

regards


m

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Nick Burrett  wrote:

> On 8 August 2015 at 16:36, Brian Hollinshead 
> wrote:
>
> > I have routinely used the terracer plugin in JOSM to divide a long/single
> > building into a set of terraced houses.
> >
> > Recently I was talking OSM to a librarian from Casimir Road, Harolds
> Cross,
> > Dublin, I asked would he like to share the house numbers with me if I
> added
> > the outlines first. He readily agreed.
> >
> > When I got home I found someone has already kindly added most of the
> > buildings carefully showing the return in each case. I cannot get the
> > terracer plugin to like trying to divide such a building into two equal
> > rectangular halves.
> >
>
> I have only ever achieved that by drawing a large outline of the terrace,
> then drawing the lines to split the houses and manually splitting the
> outline into several houses.  Very tedious, so I don't bother these days,
> choosing to terrace as a block and add the house numbers, which I find to
> be more important than the shape.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 71, Issue 3

[Marc Gemis]

You can use, e.g.  in case you want
highways without lane values.
see http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/8Rv

In your case that will become 

Recently, I translated
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_API_by_Example
from German into English, but neither languages are my mother tongue. Feel
free to correct the English version, though I hope you find the examples
already usefull

regards
m

On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Brian Hollinshead 
wrote:

> ​Thanks to Donal the nodes for highway=traffic_signals no longer show on
> Overpass page. A useful bit of MapCSS for me to learn.
>
> My Overpasshttp://url.ie/yyqb
>
> Donals version   http://url.ie/yyqd
>
> They do however still get exported to Mapbox and perhaps to Leaflet also.
> (my laptop is away being fixed under warranty so have not checked leaflet
> yet.)
>
> My preference is to learn how ​to Exclude items like
> highway=traffic_signals or traffic-calming=hump or barrier=gate from the
> data collected by Overpass.
>
> Can I write a'please do not add   v="traffic-signals"/> ' line to a query?
>
> Thanks
>
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> > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:47:54 +0100
> > From: Brian Hollinshead 
> > To: talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
> > Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Excluding nodes in Overpass query
> > Message-ID:
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> > canspjsdte8gseoomso+uynxiw_kvrof2zrur4o1pzbbs3ob...@mail.gmail.com>
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> > I have an overpass query which includes all EDs in Stillorgan LEA (2014)
> >
> > http://url.ie/yyqb
> >
> > I wish to exclude nodes and only include ways and relations so as to
> avoid
> > node markers in Mapbox which I have just started learning. I know I can
> > remove them from the geojson file between overpass and mapbox but that is
> > fierce tedious. Better to exclude them earlier.
> >
> > Any guidance very welcome. have read lots of overpass help to no avail.
> >
> > btw I know I have to fix a false overlap between Stillorgan LEA and
> > Pembroke ED boundaries!
> >
> >
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 12:17:15 +0100
> > From: Donal Diamond 
> > To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland 
> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Excluding nodes in Overpass query
> > Message-ID:
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> > On 12 April 2015 at 11:47, Brian Hollinshead 
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> >
> > > I have an overpass query which includes all EDs in Stillorgan LEA
> (2014)
> > >
> > > http://url.ie/yyqb
> > >
> > > I wish to exclude nodes and only include ways and relations so as to
> > avoid
> > > node markers in Mapbox which I have just started learning.
> >
> >
> > I presume you mean MapCSS  and not Mapbox.
> >
> > Try this:
> >
> > http://url.ie/yyqd
> >
> >
> > Donal
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I know I can
> > > remove them from the geojson file between overpass and mapbox but that
> is
> > > fierce tedious. Better to exclude them earlier.
> > >
> > > Any guidance very welcome. have read lots of overpass help to no avail.
> > >
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> > > Pembroke ED boundaries!
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] 10 years mapping in Ireland

[Marc Gemis]

thanks for sharing, took your idea and posted it on the Belgian mailing
list as well :-)

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Donal Diamond 
wrote:

> Saw this on Mapbox blog
>
> https://www.mapbox.com/blog/ten-years-openstreetmap/
>
> Animated map of Ireland:
>
> https://www.mapbox.com/ten-years-openstreetmap/#-6.841736/53.558258/8
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4

[Marc Gemis]

Hallo Stephen,

You have to do that yourself, follow the instructions on
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie (this link is included at
the bottom of all digests mail)

regards


m

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Stephen Huggard  wrote:

> Can someone remove me from this...
>  On 15 Jan 2015 12:02,  wrote:
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> >2. Re: Open Data Ireland - Govt Survey on Datasets (Rory McCann)
> >3. Re: Meath field names (Rory McCann)
> >4. Re: Meath field names
> >   (Killyfole and District Development Assocation)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 15:52:58 +
> > From: Dave Corley 
> > To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland
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> > Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Open Data Ireland - Govt Survey on Datasets
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> > Folks,
> >
> > tl;dr - go to https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OpenDataIreland and
> complete
> > the survey to get the Irish govt to open up more geo data for us to use
> > with open licences
> >
> > I want to make you aware of a survey being run by Dept. of Public
> > Enterprise and Reform. For those not aware, it is this dept which is
> > responsible for driving the open data process in govt. They have done
> some
> > good work so far on data.gov.ie which has something like 500 datasets so
> > far. Granted most are not compliant in formats or are not of any value,
> but
> > it is a good start.
> >
> > Part of the next step is asking the public what data is considered high
> > value as this is what they will focus on releasing next (where possible).
> > With this is mind they are running at survey at
> > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OpenDataIreland which I would like to ask
> > as
> > many of you as possible to complete.
> >
> > They will ask for personal details and I was a bit hesitant at first, but
> > then realised the govt has all my personal details already.
> >
> > I was in the process of completing the survey and ranked geospatial data
> as
> > my number 1 choice in question 3. In question 5 it asks you to list 5
> > datasets that you would consider high value. I put the following:
> >
> > * Full & accurate boundary data for all boundaries in Ireland (coastline,
> > counties, townlands, towns, cities, etc) released as shapefiles
> > * Full set of roads shapefile to include all associated attribute data
> > (speed limit, road classification, name, reference number e.g. N17 etc)
> > * Building footprint shapefile for all buildings in Ireland including
> > related attribute data (building type (house, apartment etc), address,
> age
> > built etc)
> > * Shapefile of all historic monuments and site in Ireland including all
> > related attribute data (name, feature type, age, etc)
> > * Full release of Eircode post code data points for all of Ireland
> >
> > Feel free to copy or add your own
> >
> > The survey took about 10 mins to complete and only contains 12 questions
> in
> > total so I would urge you all to take a few mins to complete it, you
> never
> > know, it could lead to a load of OSi & other useful data being opened up
> > that we can use
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:25:20 +0100
> > From: Rory McCann 
> > To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland 
> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Open Data Ireland - Govt Survey on Datasets
> > Message-ID: <54b6b490.6000...@technomancy.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > That's a great idea. I've filled it in there, and would hope that
> > everyone will do it too. Like you I listed some ideal data sets. We'll
> > see what happens.
> >
> > re: Historic Monuments, there are shapefiles available for the
> > Archeological Survey of Ireland from the National Monuments Serice. You
> > can download the shapefiles here
> > http://www.archaeology.ie/archaeological-survey-ireland *but* the
> > copyright is closed. Only non-commerical usage etc.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> >
> > On 14/01/15 16:52, Dave Corley wrote:
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > tl;dr - go to https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/OpenDataIreland and
>