Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland chapter - reboot

2017-08-13 Thread Martín Ferrari
Hi Dave,

On 13/08/17 21:52, Dave Corley wrote:

> What I would love to see is a functioning OSM Ireland body which, at an
> absolute minimum, could do the following
[snip]

Excuse me for the possibly dumb question.. But why is a legal entity
needed to achive any of these goals? Seems to me all of that could be
done as an informal group... Actually, I would say that there is no
point in setting a formal structure unless there is an already
functioning group.

My 2¢.

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[OSM-talk-ie] Fwd: Debian-Ireland release beers!

2017-06-14 Thread Martín Ferrari
Tomorrow the local Debian community is celebrating the upcoming new
release of Debian. We would love to share it with the wider
free/libre/open community!


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Subject: Debian-Ireland release beers!
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 12:31:28 +0100
From: Martín Ferrari <tin...@tincho.org>
To: Irish Debian User Group <debian-dug...@lists.debian.org>

Stretch is going to be released this Saturday, we need to celebrate!


Come have a drink of your choice (and maybe some deliciousfood) with the
local Debianites. There will be no talks or presentations, but many of
us worked hard for the release, so we would love to tell you all about it!


Sorry for the last minute announcement, but better late than never!

So, tomorrow, again in the Black Sheep:


Irish Debian User Group release pints
June 15, Thursday. 20:00
The Black Sheep. 61 Capel St.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/480606988#map=15/53.3483/-6.2677
https://wiki.debian.org/ReleasePartyStretch/Ireland/Dublin

Hope to see you all there!

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Registration is Now Open for State of the Map!

2016-05-04 Thread Martín Ferrari
Rob,

On 04/05/16 13:56, Rob Nickerson wrote:

> 1. We have a scholarship fund in place to help with costs. Feel free to
> apply to that.
> 
> 2. At 75 EUR tickets are sold at a loss compared to variable costs
> alone. When you add in fixed costs the loss per ticket is much bigger.
> We can do this because of sponsorship.
> 
> 3. Our price is in line with SotM 2013 and 5 EUR less than SotM US 2015.
> 
> 4. The hotel deal is available to try to keep accommodation costs down.
> 
> 5. We welcome anyone with contacts to airlines to come forward but can't
> arrange any deals with them as is.
> 
> Once again sorry that we can't get to the price level you want. Please
> apply to the scholarship fund and send in sponsorship leads.

Thanks for your detailed reply.

I don't think I should apply for sponsorship, as surely there are people
who need it way more than I do.

My complaint here was about the cost of attending the event, not about
the plane tickets or accommodation, which one can always handle in
different ways. It is not that I can't afford the 75/100 EUR, but that I
can't justify to myself to pay that money to attend a community event.

If the tickets are sold at a loss, I guess the problem then is that the
costs are too high. I don't know the cost structure of the SotM, as I
have never attended one, so I can't comment.

I have been involved in the organisation of many Debian events, where
attendance is always free, and in the bigger event (DebConf) even food
and accommodation is paid for the majority of attendees, because we
consider it a way to give back to the community. Of course, this means
finding many sponsors and really cheap venues, catering and places to
sleep; and nobody gets paid to deliver a talk. We also provide travel
sponsorship for a small amount of people, based on financial need.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Registration is Now Open for State of the Map!

2016-05-03 Thread Martín Ferrari
On 02/05/16 21:56, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Tickets for State of the Map 2016 are now on sale. Get yours before the
> price goes up (to EUR 100)!

Sadly, this cost is too high to justify attending. I care about OSM, and
I have been a silent contributor for years, but spending on plane
tickets, acommodation, and on top of that 75-100 EUR to attend the
conference, is just too much money for this little hobby of mine.

I think it is a sad state when most libre projects I care about charge
its own volunteers to gather and improve the community, specially when
corporate sponsors could be offsetting this cost. OSM is far from the
only one, I am just writing this because I am getting increasingly
annoyed by the situation.

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