Re: [Talk-in] old_name tag for merged Associate State Banks

[Arun Ganesh]

Overpass has a useful function to query historic data using the data
parameter. It also supports a CSV output.

Putting them together, this query will give a CSV of the OSM id and names
of banks and atms: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sms . This should hopefully
match the spreadsheet and be useful for such tasks in future.

Theres also a super handy script to update data from a CSV to OSM
https://github.com/srividyacb/osm-name-translation. It was mainly created
to update translations, but this seems like a good use case as well. We
should just get consensus that we want to do this.



On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Revert the name changesets and start again?
>
> The new changes should then place the original name into old_name and
> introduce the new name.
>
> On 13-Oct-17 11:08 PM, Srihari Thalla wrote:
>
> Chetan, Is there any possibility to update them via script?
>
> I am not sure if Overpass API can download based on changes in changesets.
> If not, manually going through the spreadsheet would be the obvious choice.
>
> It would be better to write a script to query the histories of Bank
> amenity objects
> and import them into JOSM and update.
>
> Scripting would, of course, need approval from the community!
>
> Here are my changesets: OSMCha: https://goo.gl/V76HoH
>
> I bundled all the changes into two changesets. (There are 5 other singled
> out changesets too.)
>
> Manually :: Downloading the changeset -> going through each object history
> -> updating each object
>
> What do you say would be a good idea?
>
> On Fri 13 Oct, 2017, 17:03 Chetan H A,  wrote:
>
>> Srihari, makes sense. I wonder how to get back deleted old names and add
>> it in old_name tag in one go like you added?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Srihari Thalla 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Back in May 2017, we have updated the name tags of merged Associate
>>> State Banks from their old names (State Bank of xxx) to the new name,
>>> "State Bank of India".
>>>
>>> We have identified and tracked the entries in a spreadsheet [1]. I have
>>> updated many entries.
>>> However, I forgot to add the old_name tag with the old name (State Bank
>>> of xxx) and just updated the name tag to State Bank of India.
>>>
>>> I think it is good to have the old names in the old_name tag as people
>>> might still remember the banks with their old names.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Srihari
>>>
>>> [1] - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/
>>> 17VXVWQVF1rujmQiSQVrXiTOi2sRImh29I2JCGWCKaxc/edit#gid=1622201629
>>>
>>> talk-in Discussions
>>> [1] - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-
>>> April/002862.html
>>> [2] - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-
>>> May/002888.html
>>>
>>> cc Chetan, Bharata
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Srihari
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Re: [Talk-in] old_name tag for merged Associate State Banks

[Warin]

Revert the name changesets and start again?

The new changes should then place the original name into old_name and 
introduce the new name.


On 13-Oct-17 11:08 PM, Srihari Thalla wrote:


Chetan, Is there any possibility to update them via script?

I am not sure if Overpass API can download based on changes in changesets.
If not, manually going through the spreadsheet would be the obvious 
choice.


It would be better to write a script to query the histories of Bank 
amenity objects

and import them into JOSM and update.

Scripting would, of course, need approval from the community!

Here are my changesets: OSMCha: https://goo.gl/V76HoH

I bundled all the changes into two changesets. (There are 5 other 
singled out changesets too.)


Manually :: Downloading the changeset -> going through each object 
history -> updating each object


What do you say would be a good idea?


On Fri 13 Oct, 2017, 17:03 Chetan H A, > wrote:


Srihari, makes sense. I wonder how to get back deleted old names
and add it in old_name tag in one go like you added?



On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Srihari Thalla
> wrote:

Hi,

Back in May 2017, we have updated the name tags of merged
Associate State Banks from their old names (State Bank of xxx)
to the new name, "State Bank of India".

We have identified and tracked the entries in a spreadsheet
[1]. I have updated many entries.
However, I forgot to add the old_name tag with the old name
(State Bank of xxx) and just updated the name tag to State
Bank of India.

I think it is good to have the old names in the old_name tag
as people might still remember the banks with their old names.

Thoughts?

Cheers,
Srihari

[1] -

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17VXVWQVF1rujmQiSQVrXiTOi2sRImh29I2JCGWCKaxc/edit#gid=1622201629

talk-in Discussions
[1] -
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-April/002862.html
[2] -
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-May/002888.html

cc Chetan, Bharata
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Re: [Talk-in] old_name tag for merged Associate State Banks

[Srihari Thalla]

Chetan, Is there any possibility to update them via script?

I am not sure if Overpass API can download based on changes in changesets.
If not, manually going through the spreadsheet would be the obvious choice.

It would be better to write a script to query the histories of Bank amenity
objects
and import them into JOSM and update.

Scripting would, of course, need approval from the community!

Here are my changesets: OSMCha: https://goo.gl/V76HoH

I bundled all the changes into two changesets. (There are 5 other singled
out changesets too.)

Manually :: Downloading the changeset -> going through each object history
-> updating each object

What do you say would be a good idea?

On Fri 13 Oct, 2017, 17:03 Chetan H A,  wrote:

> Srihari, makes sense. I wonder how to get back deleted old names and add
> it in old_name tag in one go like you added?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Srihari Thalla 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Back in May 2017, we have updated the name tags of merged Associate State
>> Banks from their old names (State Bank of xxx) to the new name, "State Bank
>> of India".
>>
>> We have identified and tracked the entries in a spreadsheet [1]. I have
>> updated many entries.
>> However, I forgot to add the old_name tag with the old name (State Bank
>> of xxx) and just updated the name tag to State Bank of India.
>>
>> I think it is good to have the old names in the old_name tag as people
>> might still remember the banks with their old names.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Srihari
>>
>> [1] -
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17VXVWQVF1rujmQiSQVrXiTOi2sRImh29I2JCGWCKaxc/edit#gid=1622201629
>>
>> talk-in Discussions
>> [1] -
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-April/002862.html
>> [2] -
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-May/002888.html
>>
>> cc Chetan, Bharata
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Srihari
>>
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Re: [Talk-in] old_name tag for merged Associate State Banks

[Chetan H A]

Srihari, makes sense. I wonder how to get back deleted old names and add it
in old_name tag in one go like you added?



On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Srihari Thalla 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Back in May 2017, we have updated the name tags of merged Associate State
> Banks from their old names (State Bank of xxx) to the new name, "State Bank
> of India".
>
> We have identified and tracked the entries in a spreadsheet [1]. I have
> updated many entries.
> However, I forgot to add the old_name tag with the old name (State Bank of
> xxx) and just updated the name tag to State Bank of India.
>
> I think it is good to have the old names in the old_name tag as people
> might still remember the banks with their old names.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
> Srihari
>
> [1] - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/
> 17VXVWQVF1rujmQiSQVrXiTOi2sRImh29I2JCGWCKaxc/edit#gid=1622201629
>
> talk-in Discussions
> [1] - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-
> April/002862.html
> [2] - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-
> May/002888.html
>
> cc Chetan, Bharata
> --
> Cheers,
> Srihari
>
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