[OSM-talk-be] OSM Used in Helsinki
Helsinki installed a couple of interactive information boards, using OSM and MapBox: http://vimeo.com/75556782 (in English) source: a Russian blog: http://shtosm.ru/all/znakomye-cherty/ (used google translate in Chrome, I'm not Polyglot :-) ) regards m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Meeting OpenStreetMap, Brussels (Central station) on Thursday 3/10 at 19h
we hope to see you. The meeting will be very close to a train station (Bruxelles central) for easy access. There will most probably be parking lot in the street (at that hour most are free) and otherwise, I'll see if I get 5 or 6 cars in the private parkign of the school. Regards, NP 2013/9/28 andy petrella andy.petre...@gmail.com I might consider coming, but I cannot guarantee since October is already quite busy... but I'm definitively interested! At least, I know some of the participants (Ben and Julien ^^). I'll keep you posted Cheers Andy Petrella Belgium (Liège) * * * * IT Consultant for *NextLab http://nextlab.be/ sprl* (co-founder) Engaged Citizen Coder for *WAJUG http://wajug.be/* (co-founder) Author of *Learning Play! Framework 2*http://www.packtpub.com/learning-play-framework-2/book * * * *Mobile: *+32 495 99 11 04* Mails: - andy.petre...@nextlab.be - andy.petre...@gmail.com Socials: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/noootsab - LinkedIn: http://be.linkedin.com/in/andypetrella - Blogger: http://ska-la.blogspot.com/ - GitHub: https://github.com/andypetrella - Masterbranch: https://masterbranch.com/andy.petrella On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.bewrote: A meeting at École supérieure d'informatique ( http://osm.org/go/0EoTiW96D--?m= , rue Royale 67 à 1000 Bruxelles, very close to Brussels Central Station and cheap restaurants ) on Thursday 3 october from 19h till 21 or 22h then go for a dinner nearby for those who want. The drinks will be offered by the school. I would propose that we discuss and compose the schedule of the meeting on http://lite2.framapad.org/p/OSMBE20131003 and list there who would come. Please see there the proposed planning and comment / adapt ? I would very much like to get in touch with the press (RTBF, Le Soir, Le vif, la DH, Tele Bruxelles) and members of the administrations to advertize the event and have public come if you agree. Please register too o nthe page, Regards, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux - +32 496 24 55 01 - http://rmll.info - http://lepacte.be EuroSciPy 2013 co-chair http://www.euroscipy.org/ -- Vous recevez ce message, car vous êtes abonné au groupe Google Groupes Open Data Wallonie. Pour vous désabonner de ce groupe et ne plus recevoir d'e-mails le concernant, envoyez un e-mail à l'adresse open-data-wallonie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Pour plus d'options, visitez le site https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- Nicolas Pettiaux - +32 496 24 55 01 - http://rmll.info - http://lepacte.be EuroSciPy 2013 co-chair http://www.euroscipy.org/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Visual editor for the wiki (WAS: How to overcome lack of consensus)
Ouch, from LibreOffice menu and help, it looks like it's only able to store a wiki file, not to read and edit it. Pretty much useless. André. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Tagging] Visual editor for the wiki (WAS: How to overcome lack of consensus)
On 2013-09-29 00:50, Clifford Snow wrote : On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:38 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Only gotcha, I think: recent Ubuntu comes with a desktop called Unity which is very resource consuming, dancing but not singing, and is really crawling on VB. There are solutions to tame Unity https://www.google.be/#q=ubuntu+unity+virtualbox+performance, but you may prefer to install a more classic desktop like gnome session fallback http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-04/ubuntu-12-04-how-to-install-the-gnome-session-fallback or, even closer to classic Ubuntu and better IMHO, MATE http://mate-desktop.org/, and choose it as your desktop before login. Try XFCE for a lightweight windows manager. I've been using it since gnome3 appeared. Yes, I know XFCE, Clifford, it runs a few apps in 384 MB. Both Gnome3 and MATE run fine on any decent machine (MATE is a mix of Gnome2 + criticized Gnome3). The only problem is starting Ubuntu the first time with crawling sole Unity under VirtualBox. Once you've managed to install one of these and use it, you're off. André. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 2013 videos
Hi, I've added a reworked version of my talk with the properly rendered sildes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxWEHQ2DpI0 Have fun, Roland ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Carto stylesheet for parks/campgrounds
Just curious if anyone else has created on OSM Carto stylesheet focused on parks or campgrounds. There are a lot of parks near me which have maps which haven't changed in ten, twenty, or thirty years. I've mapped several of them thoroughly, but now would like to see a rendering which is a bit more focused and detailed, such as rendering some of the less commonly used tags to include tagging individual camp sites (pitches). It would be great if I could put something together to show the local parks. If no one has anything, I would probably just derive something from the openstreetmap-carto style. Thanks, Josh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Carto stylesheet for parks/campgrounds
Has the NPS shared theirs? On Sep 28, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: Just curious if anyone else has created on OSM Carto stylesheet focused on parks or campgrounds. There are a lot of parks near me which have maps which haven't changed in ten, twenty, or thirty years. I've mapped several of them thoroughly, but now would like to see a rendering which is a bit more focused and detailed, such as rendering some of the less commonly used tags to include tagging individual camp sites (pitches). It would be great if I could put something together to show the local parks. If no one has anything, I would probably just derive something from the openstreetmap-carto style. Thanks, Josh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Carto stylesheet for parks/campgrounds
Hi, But, I don't see any reason why the default style shouldn't render individual sites at zoom level 19. It might drive a consensus on how to tag individual camp sites. If you feel like it, perhaps you could give that a try? Thanks Jason. On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: Just curious if anyone else has created on OSM Carto stylesheet focused on parks or campgrounds. There are a lot of parks near me which have maps which haven't changed in ten, twenty, or thirty years. I've mapped several of them thoroughly, but now would like to see a rendering which is a bit more focused and detailed, such as rendering some of the less commonly used tags to include tagging individual camp sites (pitches). It would be great if I could put something together to show the local parks. If no one has anything, I would probably just derive something from the openstreetmap-carto style. Thanks, Josh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-br] usuário hiperativo?
Gerald, se resposta não foi para todos pode repassar. Abs. Vinicius
Em sexta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2013, Gerald Weber escreveu:
Já enviei mensagem para ele. Se alguém quiser reforçar seria uma boa.
O que ocorre é que na região que vi as edições dele ao longo da Dutra, ele
encheu de highway=unclassified todas desconectadas entre si.
Sem falar que o teclado dele só deve ter letras maiúsculas:
http://osm.org/go/PAAqk5Oh-
abraço
Gerald
2013/9/27 Wille wi...@wille.blog.br javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'wi...@wille.blog.br');
Olhei rapidamente e não parece ser um caso ruim.
Ele usou bastante o aplicativo Pushpin, que provavelmente envia apenas um
POI por changeset, por isso o número grande de edições.
É um caso para chamar para a lista e ter alguém alertando-o sobre os
erros.
On 27-09-2013 20:15, Gerald Weber wrote:
Achei um usuário com 2600 edições em apenas 1 mês. Cheio de coisas
erradas:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/vialma
algém conhece?
Gerald
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Zero a esquerda em mapas digitais. Alguém poderia orientar algo menos
trabalhoso que ponto a ponto para inserir pequenos cursos de água. Só tenho
a realidade, bing e mapa municipal pdf do IBGE. Por isso ficam alguns
espaços abertos na hidrografia e highways. Quero fechar. Vinicius
Em sexta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2013, Gerald Weber escreveu:
Já enviei mensagem para ele. Se alguém quiser reforçar seria uma boa.
O que ocorre é que na região que vi as edições dele ao longo da Dutra, ele
encheu de highway=unclassified todas desconectadas entre si.
Sem falar que o teclado dele só deve ter letras maiúsculas:
http://osm.org/go/PAAqk5Oh-
abraço
Gerald
2013/9/27 Wille wi...@wille.blog.br javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'wi...@wille.blog.br');
Olhei rapidamente e não parece ser um caso ruim.
Ele usou bastante o aplicativo Pushpin, que provavelmente envia apenas um
POI por changeset, por isso o número grande de edições.
É um caso para chamar para a lista e ter alguém alertando-o sobre os
erros.
On 27-09-2013 20:15, Gerald Weber wrote:
Achei um usuário com 2600 edições em apenas 1 mês. Cheio de coisas
erradas:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/vialma
algém conhece?
Gerald
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Um problema eu discobri com pushpin app e que eles nao confirmando fonte do imagens ariais, algum pode entra em contato com eles (ou com OSMF) sobre este, existe em posebilidade que tudos edicoes com pushpin e sujo - OSMF preciso investigar este Aun Johnsen Sent from my iPhone On 28. sep. 2013, at 16:23, Vinicius de A. Maranhão viniciusdeamaran...@gmail.com wrote: Zero a esquerda em mapas digitais. Alguém poderia orientar algo menos trabalhoso que ponto a ponto para inserir pequenos cursos de água. Só tenho a realidade, bing e mapa municipal pdf do IBGE. Por isso ficam alguns espaços abertos na hidrografia e highways. Quero fechar. Vinicius Em sexta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2013, Gerald Weber escreveu: Já enviei mensagem para ele. Se alguém quiser reforçar seria uma boa. O que ocorre é que na região que vi as edições dele ao longo da Dutra, ele encheu de highway=unclassified todas desconectadas entre si. Sem falar que o teclado dele só deve ter letras maiúsculas: http://osm.org/go/PAAqk5Oh- abraço Gerald 2013/9/27 Wille wi...@wille.blog.br Olhei rapidamente e não parece ser um caso ruim. Ele usou bastante o aplicativo Pushpin, que provavelmente envia apenas um POI por changeset, por isso o número grande de edições. É um caso para chamar para a lista e ter alguém alertando-o sobre os erros. On 27-09-2013 20:15, Gerald Weber wrote: Achei um usuário com 2600 edições em apenas 1 mês. Cheio de coisas erradas: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/vialma algém conhece? Gerald ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Dr. Gerald Weber gweber...@gmail.com Personal website Departamento de Física/Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais Department of Physics/Federal University of Minas Gerais Campus da Pampulha Av. Antônio Carlos, 6627, 31270-901 Belo Horizonte, MG, Brazil mobile: +55-(0)31-96462277 (mudou/changed 02/07/2013) -- Vinicius Maranhao ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] usuário hiperativo?
Por favor verifiquem pois caso não aceito pelas regras apagaremos e paro de
utilizar. Mas pushpin pediu para logar no OSM e assim acreditei que estava
correto. Vinicius.
Em sábado, 28 de setembro de 2013, Aun Johnsen escreveu:
Um problema eu discobri com pushpin app e que eles nao confirmando fonte
do imagens ariais, algum pode entra em contato com eles (ou com OSMF) sobre
este, existe em posebilidade que tudos edicoes com pushpin e sujo - OSMF
preciso investigar este
Aun Johnsen
Sent from my iPhone
On 28. sep. 2013, at 16:23, Vinicius de A. Maranhão
viniciusdeamaran...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'viniciusdeamaran...@gmail.com'); wrote:
Zero a esquerda em mapas digitais. Alguém poderia orientar algo menos
trabalhoso que ponto a ponto para inserir pequenos cursos de água. Só tenho
a realidade, bing e mapa municipal pdf do IBGE. Por isso ficam alguns
espaços abertos na hidrografia e highways. Quero fechar. Vinicius
Em sexta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2013, Gerald Weber escreveu:
Já enviei mensagem para ele. Se alguém quiser reforçar seria uma boa.
O que ocorre é que na região que vi as edições dele ao longo da Dutra,
ele encheu de highway=unclassified todas desconectadas entre si.
Sem falar que o teclado dele só deve ter letras maiúsculas:
http://osm.org/go/PAAqk5Oh-
abraço
Gerald
2013/9/27 Wille wi...@wille.blog.br
Olhei rapidamente e não parece ser um caso ruim.
Ele usou bastante o aplicativo Pushpin, que provavelmente envia apenas
um POI por changeset, por isso o número grande de edições.
É um caso para chamar para a lista e ter alguém alertando-o sobre os
erros.
On 27-09-2013 20:15, Gerald Weber wrote:
Achei um usuário com 2600 edições em apenas 1 mês. Cheio de coisas
erradas:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/vialma
algém conhece?
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Re: [Talk-br] usuário hiperativo?
Na página do PushPin no wiki diz que usa imagens do bing e não relata problema nenhum http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pushpin_OSM Vinícius para ver os erros que você cometeu sugiro usar o Keep It Right http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=13lat=-22.42893lon=-44.32227layers=B0Tshow_ign=1show_tmpign=1 Qualquer dúvida é só perguntar. Bem vindo à comunidade! Abraços, Em 2013-09-28 17:31, Vinicius de A. Maranhão escreveu: Por favor verifiquem pois caso não aceito pelas regras apagaremos e paro de utilizar. Mas pushpin pediu para logar no OSM e assim acreditei que estava correto. Vinicius. Em sábado, 28 de setembro de 2013, Aun Johnsen escreveu: Um problema eu discobri com pushpin app e que eles nao confirmando fonte do imagens ariais, algum pode entra em contato com eles (ou com OSMF) sobre este, existe em posebilidade que tudos edicoes com pushpin e sujo - OSMF preciso investigar este Aun Johnsen Sent from my iPhone On 28. sep. 2013, at 16:23, Vinicius de A. Maranhão viniciusdeamaran...@gmail.com wrote: Zero a esquerda em mapas digitais. Alguém poderia orientar algo menos trabalhoso que ponto a ponto para inserir pequenos cursos de água. Só tenho a realidade, bing e mapa municipal pdf do IBGE. Por isso ficam alguns espaços abertos na hidrografia e highways. Quero fechar. Vinicius Em sexta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2013, Gerald Weber escreveu: Já enviei mensagem para ele. Se alguém quiser reforçar seria uma boa. O que ocorre é que na região que vi as edições dele ao longo da Dutra, ele encheu de highway=unclassified todas desconectadas entre si. Sem falar que o teclado dele só deve ter letras maiúsculas: http://osm.org/go/PAAqk5Oh- [3] abraço Gerald 2013/9/27 Wille wi...@wille.blog.br Olhei rapidamente e não parece ser um caso ruim. Ele usou bastante o aplicativo Pushpin, que provavelmente envia apenas um POI por changeset, por isso o número grande de edições. É um caso para chamar para a lista e ter alguém alertando-o sobre os erros. On 27-09-2013 20:15, Gerald Weber wrote: Achei um usuário com 2600 edições em apenas 1 mês. Cheio de coisas erradas: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/vialma [2] algém conhece? Gerald ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br [1] ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br [1] -- Dr. Gerald Weber gweber...@gmail.com Personal website [4] Departamento de Física/Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais Department of Physics/Federal University of Minas Gerais Campus da Pampulha Av. Antônio Carlos, 6627, 31270-901 Belo Horizonte, MG, Brazil mobile: +55-(0)31-96462277 (mudou/changed 02/07/2013) -- Vinicius Maranhao ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br [1] -- Vinicius Maranhao Links: -- [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/vialma [3] http://osm.org/go/PAAqk5Oh- [4] https://sites.google.com/site/geraldweberufmg/ ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- wille http://wille.blog.br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] usuário hiperativo?
Willi, agradeço as boas vindas à comunidade e o toque do keep it right que verei daqui a pouco. As dúvidas já existem e serão apresentadas em breve. Em casa uso direto osm org com idBing. Creio que ok. Fonte eu mesmo, local. Quando na rua utilizo vivozap no ipad e softs baixados da apple no local. Tanto no pushpin quanto no GoMap v1.1 ou no Openmap fico logado na conta OSM. Utilizam imagens bing que me parecem as mesmas do OSM. Fiz as edições com o entendimento de que as imagens bing foram abertas pela Microsoft. É interessante verificarem a questão aqui Brasil e com o restante da comunidade para não perdermos esforços. Creio que perderia no max uns 100-200 pinos e linhas. Nada sério. Quanto aos muitos erros que cometi, peço desculpas públicas aos mapeadores aqui do BR e de todos os cantos. Estou aprendendo, tinha uma necessidade urgente do mapa aberto e fiz o que podia. Uma questão que me aflige agora dentre muitas é na hidrografia, pequenos cursos d'água, canais, drenos em uma escala de detalhe com imagem que tem limitações. Mesmo com o conhecimento local, não posso adentrar propriedades para passear com um gps. Assim muitas linhas estão incompletas mas serão finalizadas. Já verificamos uma série de crimes ambientais (alteração de pequenos cursos d'água, mini barragens em outros, loteamentos que se implantam aprovados pelo município e com muito discurso de sustentabilidade forçando drenagem canalizada e acabando com trechos. Sem licenças, ou com licenças que considerem estes pequenos detalhes estamos abismados com a ganância. O mapa deverá ser utilizado em denúncia estruturada na Promotoria Direitos Difusos (cidadania, meio ambiente, etc), além de espalhar gratuitamente arquivo pdf feito pelo mapomatic, não me recordo agora do nome correto. Estou aprendendo tb a usar um SIG open, o gVSIG para tentar fazer uma série histórica com imagens de Porto Real mostrando a bagunça no território que alguns fizeram. O municipio está mudando muito por causa das indústrias e sem infra urbana adequada está virando uma . em canais e drenos. Outro crime quando se mistura esgoto com águas pluviais. Estaremos em breve, com a ajuda que o mapa incompleto já deu dos canais e drenos, fazendo uma amostragem coletiva básica (inicialmente uma qualitativa dos coli - onde der presente, detalharemos). Tudo voluntário. Mapa para nosso pequeno grupo é instrumento de cidadania. Aqui não parece Brasil, LAIs não são respondidas, etc... Estamos indo no clique a clique. Essa parte ficou comigo. Utilizar 1:5 ibge ou 25000 militar digital ajudaria se eu soubesse fazer e se soubesse que funcionaria no detalhe 5000 ou 2000. Ainda não sei mas quero aprender. Outra linha que cito está na estrada Quatis para Passa Vinte, MG e depois Liberdade, MG que detalhei, já subi a serra muitas vezes, gosot de 4x4. Aprendi no final dos cliques que havia uma linha feita, numa escala 5 ou 10 ou 250, pelo primeiro contribuidor OSM do Brasil. Deixei as duas e gostaria de ouvir comentários. Por favor, se estiver errado apagaremos. Outros pontos nem existem na imagem mas já na realidade e estão plotados. Agência da CEF na esquina da Avenida F com Rua A. Avenida F está mal desenhada. Com calma aprenderei o tal do acesso, fiquem a vontade se quiserem ajudar. Dou, damos boas vindas. Já utilizamos uma plataforma aberta de crisis mapping ushahidi com suporte google mas queremos passar em breve para OSM. Mais uma vez desculpas, agradeço pelo convite e retribuo convidando quem quiser e puder ajudar no mapa. Na fase pontual pesada faremos cópias de bairro e com apoio associações de bairro que completem o mapa no detalhe que quiserem. Dúvida: banco de dados domsig da ampla é público? Chega por hoje. Abs todos. Em sábado, 28 de setembro de 2013, wille escreveu: Na página do PushPin no wiki diz que usa imagens do bing e não relata problema nenhum http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/Pushpin_OSMhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pushpin_OSM Vinícius para ver os erros que você cometeu sugiro usar o Keep It Right http://keepright.ipax.at/**report_map.php?zoom=13lat=-** 22.42893lon=-44.32227layers=**B0Tshow_ign=1show_tmpign=1http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=13lat=-22.42893lon=-44.32227layers=B0Tshow_ign=1show_tmpign=1 Qualquer dúvida é só perguntar. Bem vindo à comunidade! Abraços, Em 2013-09-28 17:31, Vinicius de A. Maranhão escreveu: Por favor verifiquem pois caso não aceito pelas regras apagaremos e paro de utilizar. Mas pushpin pediu para logar no OSM e assim acreditei que estava correto. Vinicius. Em sábado, 28 de setembro de 2013, Aun Johnsen escreveu: Um problema eu discobri com pushpin app e que eles nao confirmando fonte do imagens ariais, algum pode entra em contato com eles (ou com OSMF) sobre este, existe em posebilidade que tudos edicoes com pushpin e sujo - OSMF preciso investigar este Aun Johnsen Sent from my iPhone On 28. sep. 2013, at 16:23, Vinicius de A. Maranhão
[Talk-de] Bug in http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/
Hallo, das Free maps for Garmin brand GPS devices from OpenStreetMap ist irgendwie buggy. Nach Aufruf des Links in der Mail kommt: Not Found The requested URL /garmin/generic/23-09-2013/6e1e1db50918a937b56f547b1e25a61c was not found on this server. Kann jemand bitte helfen? Mit lieben Grüßen Michael ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Bug in http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/
Hallo Michael, ich kein einfach auf den Link klicken und dann z.B. Dänemark runterladen. Kann das sein das dein Browser noch irgendeine alte Url vom dem Server aus seinem Cache nutzt ? Christoph Am 28.09.2013 um 15:22 schrieb Michael osm...@suesz.de: Hallo, das Free maps for Garmin brand GPS devices from OpenStreetMap ist irgendwie buggy. Nach Aufruf des Links in der Mail kommt: Not Found The requested URL /garmin/generic/23-09-2013/6e1e1db50918a937b56f547b1e25a61c was not found on this server. Kann jemand bitte helfen? Mit lieben Grüßen Michael ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Bug in http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ -- Fehler gefunden
On 28.09.2013 16:46, Christoph (TheFive@OSM) wrote: ich kein einfach auf den Link klicken und dann z.B. Dänemark runterladen. Kann das sein das dein Browser noch irgendeine alte Url vom dem Server aus seinem Cache nutzt ? Hallo Christoph, das ist mir schon klar, aber sollte ausgeschlossen sein. Der Ablauf ist ja folgender: * Ich klicke mir die Kartenteile zusammen. * In meinem Fall Jordanien und Israel. * gebe meine Mailadresse ein * warte bis mail kommt * Da steht dann der Link drin = Your request for a Garmin map on garmin.openstreetmap.nl is ready. The server has generated four different configurations of your map: * _windows.exe = Installer for Garmin BaseCamp/MapSource (Windows). * _macosx.zip = Installer for Garmin BaseCamp/RoadTrip (Mac OSX) * _gmapsupp.zip = Combined image for direct manual placement on the GPS device (gmapsupp.img) * _tiles.zip = A zip file containing the tiles in the request, especially useful for Linux users (e.g. QLandkarte) Please browse to the website listed below and download the map configuration(s) you're interested in. Your request will be available on the server for 60 hours before it's deleted. http://osm2.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de/garmin/generic/23-09-2013/6e1e1db50918a937b56f547b1e25a61c upps, jetzt kommt es. Mein Thunderbird nimmt die spitze Klammer am Ende mit zur Url. Wenn ich diese lösche, dann ist die url korrekt!! statt: http://osm2.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de/garmin/generic/23-09-2013/6e1e1db50918a937b56f547b1e25a61c lieber so: http://osm2.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de/garmin/generic/23-09-2013/6e1e1db50918a937b56f547b1e25a61c Danke fürs mitdenken. Mit lieben Grüßen Michael ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Bug in http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ -- Fehler gefunden
Hab gerne geholfen ohne was beizutragen :-) Christoph Am 28.09.2013 um 17:41 schrieb Michael osm...@suesz.de: On 28.09.2013 16:46, Christoph (TheFive@OSM) wrote: ich kein einfach auf den Link klicken und dann z.B. Dänemark runterladen. Kann das sein das dein Browser noch irgendeine alte Url vom dem Server aus seinem Cache nutzt ? Hallo Christoph, das ist mir schon klar, aber sollte ausgeschlossen sein. Der Ablauf ist ja folgender: * Ich klicke mir die Kartenteile zusammen. * In meinem Fall Jordanien und Israel. * gebe meine Mailadresse ein * warte bis mail kommt * Da steht dann der Link drin = Your request for a Garmin map on garmin.openstreetmap.nl is ready. The server has generated four different configurations of your map: * _windows.exe = Installer for Garmin BaseCamp/MapSource (Windows). * _macosx.zip = Installer for Garmin BaseCamp/RoadTrip (Mac OSX) * _gmapsupp.zip = Combined image for direct manual placement on the GPS device (gmapsupp.img) * _tiles.zip = A zip file containing the tiles in the request, especially useful for Linux users (e.g. QLandkarte) Please browse to the website listed below and download the map configuration(s) you're interested in. Your request will be available on the server for 60 hours before it's deleted. http://osm2.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de/garmin/generic/23-09-2013/6e1e1db50918a937b56f547b1e25a61c upps, jetzt kommt es. Mein Thunderbird nimmt die spitze Klammer am Ende mit zur Url. Wenn ich diese lösche, dann ist die url korrekt!! statt: http://osm2.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de/garmin/generic/23-09-2013/6e1e1db50918a937b56f547b1e25a61c lieber so: http://osm2.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de/garmin/generic/23-09-2013/6e1e1db50918a937b56f547b1e25a61c Danke fürs mitdenken. Mit lieben Grüßen Michael ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] OpenStreetMap mit eigenen Stand auf der INTERGEO 2013
Hallo, dieses Jahr konnten wir als Projekt nicht auf den OpenSource-Park ( ehemals OSGeo Stand ) und haben kurzfristig durch den Veranstalter DVW e.V. und die Firma Hinte einen eigenen kostenlosen Messestand bekommen. Dieser ist in Halle 1 I1.040 und neben dem OSGeo Stand. Wer uns besuchen möchte, ist herzlichst eingeladen. Und wer mithelfen will, kann auch das sehr gerne. Einige Informationen stehen im Wiki [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Intergeo_2013], zur Koordination benutzen wir die lokale Mailingliste OSM-Essen [http://lists.openstreetmap.de/mailman/listinfo/essen]. Marc ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Sentiero CAI dismesso
Am 27/set/2013 um 18:38 schrieb bredy bredy...@yahoo.it: Mi domandavo se sia il caso di anteporre Ex al numero del ref. o basta solo aggiungere abandoned anche al ref? se ritieni opportuno lasciare traccia della vecchia route lascierei la relazione, ma senza ex-, se invece vuoi togliere quella informazione perché è superata e non si trova più alcun riferimento nella realtà allora cancelli la relazione e non metti alcun ref o ex-ref al way ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Fwd: [Tile-serving] [osm2pgsql] Add abandoned: tags to phstore list (#86)
Vi inoltro, per conoscenza e perché abbiamo recentemente discusso di cose simili, questo pull request per carto, dove una serie tags con prefisso abandoned: vengono integrati nel rendering database, condizione preliminare per renderizzare tale oggetti. ciao, Martin -- Forwarded message -- From: Paul Norman notificati...@github.com Date: 2013/9/28 Subject: [Tile-serving] [osm2pgsql] Add abandoned: tags to phstore list (#86) To: openstreetmap/osm2pgsql osm2pg...@noreply.github.com The non-abandoned version of these tags are areas, so the abandoned ones should be too. Necessary for hotosm/HDM-CartoCSS#126https://github.com/hotosm/HDM-CartoCSS/issues/126 . Also defines area:highway as an area in default.style Test results might need tweaking, but the tests are failing for me for unrelated reasons. -- You can merge this Pull Request by running git pull https://github.com/pnorman/osm2pgsql abandoned Or view, comment on, or merge it at: https://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/pull/86 Commit Summary - Add abandoned: tags to phstore list File Changes - *M* default.stylehttps://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/pull/86/files#diff-0(10) - *M* empty.stylehttps://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/pull/86/files#diff-1(7) Patch Links: - https://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/pull/86.patch - https://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/pull/86.diff ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Coastline
Sembra che quello che ho fatto sia stato digerito da osm... -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Coastline-tp5778319p5779252.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Coastline
2013/9/28 ramon saxe...@libero.it Sembra che quello che ho fatto sia stato digerito da osm... si, pare che da poco tempo la coastline viene aggiornata più spesso (ho letto qualcosa come quasi ogni giorno)... ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Villaggi turistici, campeggi e strutture simili
Vorrei sapere se tali strutture è meglio mapparle come aree o come singolo punto, o in tutti i due i modi? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Villaggi-turistici-campeggi-e-strutture-simili-tp5779255.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Villaggi turistici, campeggi e strutture simili
2013/9/28 ramon saxe...@libero.it Vorrei sapere se tali strutture è meglio mapparle come aree o come singolo punto, o in tutti i due i modi è sempre meglio mappare tutto come area, al meno che sia più grande di ca. un metro quadrato... ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Villaggi turistici, campeggi e strutture simili
Immaginavo, parlo di grandi strutture/aree... -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Villaggi-turistici-campeggi-e-strutture-simili-tp5779255p5779260.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Villaggi turistici, campeggi e strutture simili
2013/9/28 ramon saxe...@libero.it Immaginavo, parlo di grandi strutture/aree... si, immaginavo. Tutti i due modi (nodo ed area con gli stessi tags) va evitato, sarebbe un doppione. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Cambiare formato testo in JOSM
Il giorno 27 settembre 2013 23:23, marco bra marcobra.ubu...@gmail.com ha scritto: Groppo, non ho usato il tuo script, ma l'ho provato ed e' potente, sarebbero da discriminare alcune liste di parole... che non vanno maiuscole... di, del etc. Sì, il mio era un esempio per far vedere cosa si può fare. Lo si può modificare/migliorare in base alle proprie esigenze. Ad esempio, con le modifiche qui sotto (vedi ### aggiunta), tiene conto di alcune preposizioni ed alla fine stampa sul terminale la lista dei nomi e le loro conversioni. #codice script Capitalize words of name=* tags in JOSM import sys from javax.swing import JOptionPane from org.openstreetmap.josm import Main def getMapView(): if Main.main and Main.main.map: return Main.main.map.mapView else: JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(Main.parent, Apri dei dati, prima di eseguire lo script.) sys.exit(1) aggiunta prepositions = [ di , del , della , delle ] mv = getMapView() if mv and mv.editLayer and mv.editLayer.data: dataset = mv.editLayer.data elements = [] elements.extend(dataset.nodes) elements.extend(dataset.ways) elements.extend(dataset.relations) #For each OSM object in the dataset for element in elements: tags = element.getKeys() if len(tags) != 0: if name in tags: #capitalize words of name value oldName = element.get(name) newName = oldName.title() aggiunta for prep in prepositions: newName = newName.replace(prep.title(), prep.lower()) tags[name] = newName #Print names to terminal print %s --- %s % (oldName, newName) #Update element tags element.setKeys(tags) JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(Main.parent, Done.) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Scrivere ed eseguire script in JOSM (era: Cambiare formato testo in JOSM)
Il giorno 27 settembre 2013 23:23, marco bra marcobra.ubu...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... Ci potresti lasciare qualche riferimento disponibile in rete, che per tua esperienza, è utile per approfondimenti... Gli script (in Pyhton, Javascript, Groovy o Ruby) possono essere eseguiti tramite il plugin Scripting: http://gubaer.github.io/josm-scripting-plugin/ scrivendo il codice nella console: menu Scripting -- Show scripting console o eseguendoli come files: Scripting -- Run... Per eseguire il codice all'avvio di JOSM bisogna invece creare un plugin ( http://gubaer.github.io/josm-scripting-plugin/). Questi passi, però, non sono necessari se si vuole fare un semplice scirpt, che si lancia a mano. Alcuni esempi di script: https://github.com/Gubaer/josm-scripting-plugin/tree/master/scripts A chi non conosce Python, consiglio queste due guide: http://swaroopch.com/notes/python/ http://www.python.it/doc/Howtothink/HowToThink_ITA.pdf.gz Per interagire con JOSM (leggere i dati aperti, modificare i tags, creare layers...) bisogna consultare la documentazione di JOSM: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/doc/ Essendo scritta per JAVA, la documentazione va un po' interpretata, per poter fare le stesse cose in Python. Se si vuole aggiungere un'interfaccia grafica allo script (dialoghi, finestre, pulsanti) si usa Swing: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/uiswing/components/dialog.html Un altro esempio di script Python per JOSM che può essere consultato è il mio script per scaricare e correggere in sequenza gli errori (qat_script), che però non usa funzioni di lettura/modifica dei tags. (SPAM...) Ne approfitto per segnalare alcuni aggiornamenti che non ho mai annunciato in lista: - possibilità di vedere solo gli errori di un'area preferita, ad es. un comune (grazie a jts topology) - supporto di Osmose. Da Preferenze -- Osmose si può chiedere di mostrare solo gli errori di una certa gravità o di un determinato mapper. - traduzione in italiano (tedesco e francese, grazie a Poppei82 ed operon) - lo script può essere lanciato da una directory qualsiasi. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Quality_Assurance_Tools_script Ciao, Groppo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Cambiare formato testo in JOSM
2013/9/28 Groppo grop...@gmail.com Il giorno 27 settembre 2013 23:23, marco bra marcobra.ubu...@gmail.comha scritto: Groppo, non ho usato il tuo script, ma l'ho provato ed e' potente, sarebbero da discriminare alcune liste di parole... che non vanno maiuscole... di, del etc. Sì, il mio era un esempio per far vedere cosa si può fare. Lo si può modificare/migliorare in base alle proprie esigenze. forse sarebbe anche un bel plugin? Confermo che alle volte anche a me sarebbe proprio servito un metodo comodo per cambiare il TUTTO MAIUSCOLO secondo le nostre convenzioni. Qualcosa come: seleziona il contenuto del campo nel tag-editor, click dx - all to UPPER case/all to lower case/All to mixed case. Non dovrebbe essere perfetto, già dover solo cambiare i di, da, per ecc. in minuscolo sarebbe poco rispetto a quello che ora serve. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Villaggi turistici, campeggi e strutture simili
Il 28/09/2013 12:07, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: 2013/9/28 ramon saxe...@libero.it mailto:saxe...@libero.it Immaginavo, parlo di grandi strutture/aree... si, immaginavo. Tutti i due modi (nodo ed area con gli stessi tags) va evitato, sarebbe un doppione. ciao, Martin Ho mappato recentemente il Camping a Sestiere dove mi recavo in villeggiatura da piccolo, con grande emozione ho ricalcato tutta l'area ed ho inserito i relativi tags nell'area stessa. Se per comodità (è un modo di operare forse sbrigativo) vuoi creare un singolo nodo provvisorio va bene lo stesso, viene renderizzato in egual maniera e quando avrai tempo potrai crearti l'area più eventuali buinding ed i tag di contatto e address. E' però un lavoro doppio, devi poi ricordarti di cancellare il nodo a favore dell'area stessa per non creare doppioni. -- Gianluca Boero ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Numeri romani sulle vie
A mio avviso bisogna prendere una decisione e lasciarla a memoria per tutti sulla pagina delle convenzioni e non sulla Key IT:name, in quanto la prima è più facile sia letta da un nuovo arrivato, che non la pagina name, sulla seconda metterei il riferimento alla pagina conventios. In questo modo c'è solo una pagina da modificare e non si crea la possibilità di avere due versioni diverse, com'è attualmente. Una riporta di usare la realtà, la seconda la regola grammaticale. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Numeri-romani-sulle-vie-tp5778517p5779271.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Strade con più ways
27.09.2013 - 23:40 - Martin Koppenhöfer: Am 27.09.2013 um 17:03 schrieb Damjan Gerl dam...@damjan.net: Non si potrebe usare una relazione street? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:street Si potrebbe, ma AFAIK nel consenso attuale richiederebbe ugualmente i nomi anche sulle way, quindi è un lavori in più (ridondante). Vista la fragilità delle relazioni lo sconsiglierei In generale... Ciao, Martin A, non sapevo. Si, se bisogna comunque mettere i nomi sulle way singole credo non serva la relazione. Ciao Damjan ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] tag laguna venezia
Il 24/09/2013 21:34, Hartman ha scritto: Tralasciando l'errore che un utente ha fatto alla laguna di venezia (ha messo footway alla relazione) al quale ho già posto rimedio, prendo l'occasione per chiedere alle barene, velme e casse di colmata ( link http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Veneto/Lagune_e_zone_umide/Laguna_di_Venezia ) va posto il tag natural=water oppure no? cioè bisogna farle risultare terra emersa? Quelli che vedi sulla pagina che hai citato sono i tag che abbiamo discusso in lista regionale. Natural=water non va messo su barene, velme, casse di colmata etc. Direi che va messo solo dove l'acqua c'è sempre. Inoltre qualcuno si è mosso per avere i dati del magistrato delle acque che risultano molto più dettagliati rispetto a quelli messi a disposizione del comune di Venezia e dalla regione Veneto nella descrizione della laguna? Credo di no. ciao Paolo M ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Villaggi turistici, campeggi e strutture simili
Il 28/09/2013 12:07, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: 2013/9/28 ramon saxe...@libero.it mailto:saxe...@libero.it Immaginavo, parlo di grandi strutture/aree... si, immaginavo. Tutti i due modi (nodo ed area con gli stessi tags) va evitato, sarebbe un doppione. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it Esempio --- http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.17138lon=9.38395zoom=17 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.367224lon=10.138193zoom=19 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] tag laguna venezia
ok allora elimini il tag natural=water. Però prima di muovermi sarebbe bello avere i dati del magistrato delle acque. Come ci si muove? Bisogna contattarli tramite un canale ufficiale di openstreetmap? Non ho idea di come procedere. Non voglio importare la ctr quando esistono dati qualitativamente superiori in mano ad un ente pubblico e magari rifare poi tutto da capo. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/tag-laguna-venezia-tp5778859p5779294.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Villaggi turistici, campeggi e strutture simili
Il 28/09/2013 17:44, Mario Pichetti ha scritto: Esempio --- http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.17138lon=9.38395zoom=17 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.367224lon=10.138193zoom=19 Non ha un nome questo Camping? Leggo solo campeggio sotto l'icona. Se lo si attribuisce con il tag name viene visualizzato. -- Gianluca Boero ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Area ecologica
Si è parlato di area per i camping in questi giorni. Io avrei un quesito da chiedervi per quanto riguarda i cassonetti della raccolta differenziata. Nel mio territorio sono dislocati in vari punti nei vari paesi e sono gestiti da Acea. Ho già provato a mapparne alcuni nel mio paese come esempio. Ora mi sorge un dubbio ed una proposta. Ogni punto di raccolta ha un cartello con scritto Punto di raccolta n° XX. Sono tantissimi, forse più di 70. La mia idea oltre al tag operator era quella di poter inserire il numero di riferimento. Ma a questo punto conviene mappare un'area circostante i cassonetti ed i singoli cassonetti come nodi singoli? Anche perchè bisognerebbe poi specificare per ogni cassonetto cosa si può conferire. Cosa mi porta il dubbio è che i cassonetti sono adagiati sulla strada quasi sempre, quindi potenzialmente semovibili. L'area va bene lo stesso? Direi di si. E come numero posso utilizzare il tag ref? Grazie. -- Gianluca Boero ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] per i soci OSMF
Ciao, nel ricordavi che entro 2 giorni dovreste effettuare la scelta di quale tipologia di socio volete mantenere, vi chiedo: cosa avete scelto? socio normale o socio associato? http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association/New -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Cambiare formato testo in JOSM
2013/9/28 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Sì, il mio era un esempio per far vedere cosa si può fare. Lo si può modificare/migliorare in base alle proprie esigenze. forse sarebbe anche un bel plugin? Confermo che alle volte anche a me sarebbe proprio servito un metodo comodo per cambiare il TUTTO MAIUSCOLO secondo le nostre convenzioni. Qualcosa come: seleziona il contenuto del campo nel tag-editor, click dx - all to UPPER case/all to lower case/All to mixed case. Non dovrebbe essere perfetto, già dover solo cambiare i di, da, per ecc. in minuscolo sarebbe poco rispetto a quello che ora serve. ho un problema. ho usato il tuo script per correggere delle scuole erroneamente inserite con TUTTO MAIUSCOLO, il tuo script mi effettua correttamente le modifiche, ma al momento di fare upload, mi dice che non ci sono modifiche da inviare al server osm. che fare? -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] query overpass - non funziona come dovrebbe
2013/9/26 Groppo grop...@gmail.com:
(
relation({{bbox}})
[route=bus]
[ref=3]
[from=Montebolone];
);
node(r:stop);
out;
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/17w
Per convertire in query XML:
http://overpass-api.de/query_form.html
grazie mille! perfetto...
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Re: [Talk-it] per i soci OSMF
Perdona la mia ignoranza... io ho rinnovato la mia quota ma non mi hanno chiesto niente ... o perlomeno non me ne sono reso conto. Dove posso effettuare la scelta? Da: Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com A: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Cc: Data: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:49:45 +0200 Oggetto: [Talk-it] per i soci OSMF Ciao, nel ricordavi che entro 2 giorni dovreste effettuare la scelta di quale tipologia di socio volete mantenere, vi chiedo: cosa avete scelto? socio normale o socio associato? http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association/New -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Problemi con i menu di Josm
Ciao a tutti, sono l'unico ad aver notato dei problemi con i menu di Josm? Ho riaperto un ticket vecchio ( http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7944 ) ma volevo capire questa cosa. Per riprodurre il problema:1. Aprite Josm in modalità NON massimizzata 2. Portate la finestra lontano dallo spigolo alto - sinistro dello schermo3. Massimizzate la finestra4. Provate a vedere se i menu funzionano Non ho capito se è un problema specifico di LinuxMint, dei sistemi Linux, o un errore generale. Il mio problema lo trovate su ( la seconda metà del filmato): http://www.stefanofraccaro.org/osmplayer.php?v=0 Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Hand-drawn OS maps on Wikimedia Commons
On 28 September 2013 21:24, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Corner coordinates are now displaying, allowing these to be aligned adjusted to fit. Have fun! Would it e possible for someone to stitch all these into one layer for ooc.openstreetmap.org ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Hand-drawn OS maps on Wikimedia Commons
Hi Andy, There is a whole bunch of OS Town Plans available on the National Library of Scotland website. They are already georectified and served up as tiles (ready for use in OSM editors). I am in the early stages of getting these added to iD and JOSM as a series of separate layers. I note that the British Library are hosting these online so that they can be viewed over Google Maps [1]. Looking at how this is done, it is clear that they are tiled (good), however it doesn't appear to be standard TMS tile naming (bad) [2]. If there is anyone who is able to work out how to get the tiles as TMS then I can happily add these to OSM editors (assuming British Library are happy for us to use their URLs - I wouldn't anticipate a great deal of traffic). Rob p.s. What is better: (i) a series of layers, one for each plan, or (ii) a single layer that attempts to stitch these together? [1] http://britishlibrary.georeferencer.com/map/0bZUn1rmtdWI3tNzhm6Q6A/201211072054-FNPbW4/visualize [2] http://ogimages.bl.uk/images/zoomify/002/002OSD00011U00179000/TileGroup0/3-1-3.jpg On 28 September 2013 23:18, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 28 September 2013 21:24, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Corner coordinates are now displaying, allowing these to be aligned adjusted to fit. Have fun! Would it e possible for someone to stitch all these into one layer for ooc.openstreetmap.org ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-es] datos munimadrid
igual ya conocéis esta web http://informo.munimadrid.es/informo/tmadrid/tmadrid.php por una vez hacen algo simple y rápido sin flash ni cosas de esas tiene datos estáticos interesantes en .kml la pregunta es que copyright tienen? solo hablan del de la capa base que es google maps. lo digo por poder importar a osm, hacer esto mismo con capa base de OSM (alguien se anima?), o usar los .kml para otras cosas... http://informo.munimadrid.es/informo/tmadrid/___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[OSM-Talk-ZA] A working map of the greater metropolitan Cape Town area for a healthcare system simulator
Dear OSM members My background is medical and not cartographic. I am sincerely hoping that someone might possibly be prepared to assist me and my US-based volunteer programmer with the ongoing development of our proposed freeware healthcare education application. We are attempting to create a healthcare system simulator with the greater metropolitan Cape Town area as our geographic location (as Cape Town is my home city). I have been most fortunate in obtaining a fairly detailed geocoded map of the area (courtesy of a University of Stellenbosch academic) depicting 320 suburbs (which is key to our healthcare system simulation model). I have also painstakingly pasted together a couple of composite png images depicting the corresponding area of interest within the OSM. [A series of Dropbox links to these files are listed below]. I am hoping that someone might possibly be prepared to assist us in creating a dynamic loading map onto which a series of iconic links to our proposed healthcare structures can be positioned (please refer to https://www.dropbox.com/s/5xdzs8hqggpq0jn/OpenStreetMap3.png for further relevant information). The optimal format of such a map is open to debate - whether it is the default OSM (which tends to obscure the individual icons), a somewhat less cluttered version (that will further highlight the individual icons) or a rendered 3d image (which could appear stunning) Please note that the final (massive) image of the greater metropolitan Cape Town area extends somewhat beyond the initial geocoded map as we are potentially interested in adding some rural districts to the suburban healthcare regions. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qbr5n9o4zafqwf2/HS.png [A copy of the latest version of a geocoded map of the greater metropolitan Cape Town area produced by a local University of Stellenbosch academic] https://www.dropbox.com/s/n72w6xjvqlwgefs/Health_Regions.xlsx [A copy of a slightly modified version of the original MS Excel spreadsheet for the above geocoded map] https://www.dropbox.com/s/notuzsvg27ci8qr/OpenStreetMap2.png [A copy of a composite Road map of the greater metropolitan Cape Town area (without any superadded healthcare facility icons)] https://www.dropbox.com/s/5xdzs8hqggpq0jn/OpenStreetMap3.png [A copy of a composite Road map of the greater metropolitan Cape Town area (with a series of superadded healthcare facility icons)] https://www.dropbox.com/s/y8ajkuehybmbsf6/OpenStreetMap.Big.png [A copy of a larger composite Road map of the greater metropolitan Cape Town area (without any superadded healthcare facility icons)] We are hoping that someone will be able and willing to create a suitably detailed (and visually aesthetic) scenario map to complement our evolving Schematic World Map. Btw: This request also appears here: https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/26790/any-mappers-wish-to-become-involved-in-freeware-healthcare-education-application With our kindest regards Jeremy and Thomas___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [Talk-cz] číslo evidenční v addr:housenumber
2013/9/27 Jakub Sykora kub...@kbx.cz To nebude cislo evidencni, ale oznaceni v budove - bezne se u radovych domu a bloku oznacuji takto jednotlive vchody nebo sekce - ma to prave mit ten vyznam - je to jeden celek, jednolita budova, ale trochu jine misto. Navic dost mozna kolaudovano jako jedena budova - proto jedno cislo popisne. Obávám se, že http://goo.gl/maps/bzzZF je _opravdu_ spíše číslo evidenční než řadový dům. ;-) A nešlo mi o to, co má rejstříkový soud v popisu práce (ale minimálně souhlas vlastníka k umístění sídla společnosti určitě vyžadoval), ale co se reálně používá. -- Petr Kadlec / Mormegil ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [Bug iPhone Alaska] OSM?
Il semble qu'il s'agit de l'aéroport de Fairbanks en Alaska: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/64.8371/-147.6077 Pas de souci visible sur OSM. Il faut se méfier des indications des GPS, parfois on se retrouve à l'entrée du tunnel sous la manche sans le vouloir ;) Le 27 septembre 2013 21:55, Shohreh codecompl...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour Par curiosité, quelqu'un sait-il si OSM possède la bonne info et leur aurait évité cette mésaventure? Plusieurs automobilistes se sont retrouvés au beau milieu des pistes d'un aéroport de l'Alaska. Ils ont été trompés par les fausses instructions de leur iPhone. www.tdg.ch/high-tech/iphone-guide-pistes-aeroport/story/19245734 Merci. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Bug-iPhone-Alaska-OSM-tp5779216.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Intégrité des rond-points (était : Rétablissement d'un élément avant envoi d'une modification)
Pour qu'un moteur de rendu affiche le nom d'un rond-point au centre de celui-ci et pas sur le pourtour il faut qu'il n'y ait qu'un seul way fermé ou alors on complique encore plus le boulot pour le rendu car il lui faut recoller des tronçons ensemble pour se rendre compte que finalement ces tronçons forme un chemin fermé.. Ca va compliquer un peu la requête postgis qui doit identifier les way fermé ou pas, mais c'est faisable. Ensuite on risque de se retrouver avec des cas où au centre du rond-point il y a déjà des choses placées et donc on ne pourra pas y mettre le nom... aïe, là il aurait fallu placer le nom sur le pourtour et pas le centroid ! Pas simple du tout et surtout dans Mapnik on n'a pas de notion de scripting qui permettrait de tenter un type de placement puis si ce n'est pas possible d'en tenter un autre, etc. C'est je pense une fonctionnalité importante qui manque mais pas évidente à implémenter. -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Explosion d'un carrefour
Le 26 septembre 2013 12:08, Fionn Halleman fionn.halle...@valeurs-mobiles.fr a écrit : - et le cheminement piéton dessiné sur la partie piétonne de la place ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/239358599) n'est raccordé à rien : il ne partage avec une des routes adjacentes, ni même avec la place elle-même. Moralité : un routeur va le traiter comme une île et fera faire à un piéton tout le tour de la place... exactement comme s'il était une voiture. C'est bien la peine de s'être donné du mal à faire une place piétonne si elle Du coup j'ai rajouté quelques petits raccords piétons et redécoupé les rues pénétrantes pour qu'elles aient bien un noeud commun avec la place http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18042120. Ainsi, un routeur piéton devrait pouvoir soit suivre les chemins tracés, soit le bord de la place. J'espère que ça correspond bien à ce qu'un piéton peut faire ! C'est à cause que je ne sais pas comment faire avec les trottoirs qui changent de forme. Normalement, tant qu'un trottoir suit la voie, il est une propriété de cette voie. Mais si le trottoir se met à prendre certaines initiatives, comme se séparer de la voie par une barrière, ou ne plus en être parrallèle, ou autre, alors il faut tracer un chemin spécial pour lui. Mais à quoi raccorder ce chemin spécial lorsqu'il devient spécial ? Faut-il le raccorder à la portion de voie route avec propriété trottoir... ce qui revient à raccorder un chemin piéton à une route bagnole ? ... je trouve assez sympa ce qu'est devenu la place maintenant (il faut dire que les meilleurs experts s'y sont mis, merci à tous ! ), à part 1 gros blème : le area=pedestrian - il l'est vraiment, hein - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/239302783 n'est plus du tout rendu sur la carte, ce qui me parait un peu génant quand même. Cordialement. http://drivrsdu.fr/profession-emotion/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Explosion d'un carrefour
Je pense que c'est un problème de recouvrement entre : - l'area en highway=pedestrian - l'area en highway=residential J'ai fait en sorte que les voitures ne roulent plus au milieu du petit parc, je pense que ça sera mieux comme ça. Greg 2013/9/28 Ista Pouss ista...@gmail.com Le 26 septembre 2013 12:08, Fionn Halleman fionn.halle...@valeurs-mobiles.fr a écrit : - et le cheminement piéton dessiné sur la partie piétonne de la place ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/239358599) n'est raccordé à rien : il ne partage avec une des routes adjacentes, ni même avec la place elle-même. Moralité : un routeur va le traiter comme une île et fera faire à un piéton tout le tour de la place... exactement comme s'il était une voiture. C'est bien la peine de s'être donné du mal à faire une place piétonne si elle Du coup j'ai rajouté quelques petits raccords piétons et redécoupé les rues pénétrantes pour qu'elles aient bien un noeud commun avec la place http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18042120. Ainsi, un routeur piéton devrait pouvoir soit suivre les chemins tracés, soit le bord de la place. J'espère que ça correspond bien à ce qu'un piéton peut faire ! C'est à cause que je ne sais pas comment faire avec les trottoirs qui changent de forme. Normalement, tant qu'un trottoir suit la voie, il est une propriété de cette voie. Mais si le trottoir se met à prendre certaines initiatives, comme se séparer de la voie par une barrière, ou ne plus en être parrallèle, ou autre, alors il faut tracer un chemin spécial pour lui. Mais à quoi raccorder ce chemin spécial lorsqu'il devient spécial ? Faut-il le raccorder à la portion de voie route avec propriété trottoir... ce qui revient à raccorder un chemin piéton à une route bagnole ? ... je trouve assez sympa ce qu'est devenu la place maintenant (il faut dire que les meilleurs experts s'y sont mis, merci à tous ! ), à part 1 gros blème : le area=pedestrian - il l'est vraiment, hein - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/239302783 n'est plus du tout rendu sur la carte, ce qui me parait un peu génant quand même. Cordialement. http://drivrsdu.fr/profession-emotion/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Camp de concentration, camps de prisonniers, lieux de massacres…
Le 28 sept. 2013 à 07:42, yves.prat...@laposte.net a écrit : Pays-Bas http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2308208501 Uitenhage Concentration Camp Memorial http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/152604321 Gonars concentration camp area outline Afrique du Sud http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2432691021 Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp Memorial http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/200063713 Kamp Vught Concentration Camp Museum http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/26591168 Irene Concentration Camp Cemetry Allemagne / Pologne http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1705312825 Kaiserwald concentration camp http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/667982430KZ-Gedenkstätte / Ebensee Concentration Camp Memorial http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/69722519 Denkmal KZ-Außenlager Wöbbelin http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3030777 Konzentrationslager Auschwitz (Auschwitz I) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/53908378 Konzentrationslager Auschwitz II http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25503679 KZ-Gedenkstätte Dachau http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/45777192 Former concentration camp of Guntramsdorf 1943-1945 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/29112284 KZ Leonberg http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/29112283 KZ Leonberg http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/694339582KZ Kemna France http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/59141848 Struthof Natzweiler (ehemaliges Nazi Konzentrationslager) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/175705428 Ancien Camp de Concentration de Douadic Grèce http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/96408381 Kokkinotrimithia Concentration Camp Korée du nord http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/123344488 Umerziehungslager Kaechon http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1688342 Konzentrationslager Haengyong http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/123365703 Internierungslager Pukch’ang http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1688267 Internierungslager Hwasong http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/123352641 Internierungslager Yodok En lien avec ma remarque précédente, les cas de concentration et les camps d'extermination sont confondus (y compris par le Ministère de la Culture français, car, cette appellation était la seule utilisée pendant plusieurs décennie après la guerre). Il n'est donc pas possible de changer le nom traditionnel pour le Struthof-Natzweiler, par exemple. Ce qu'il me semble possible, ce serait de soumettre une valeur pour Auschwitz-Birkenau, Dachau, qui sont dans la liste ci-dessus et d'y ajouter les autres (Sobibor, Sachsenhausen, etc.). Merci à Yves pour cette compilation, cela m'a permis de comprendre que le frère de mon grand-père, déporté comme otage, parce qu'il était soupçonné de porter des messages pour la Résistance (il était facteur), est mort en Autriche et non en Allemagne comme on le disait dans la famille. Justement, il y a une petite erreur : Ebensee n'est pas en Allemagne ou en Pologne, même si l'Autriche était annexée par le Reich. Christian R.___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [Bug iPhone Alaska] OSM?
Merci pour l'info. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Bug-iPhone-Alaska-OSM-tp5779216p5779287.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry postcode tool now running
I've just noticed (changeset 18037116) someone using this Land Registry data search tool to actually populate, rather than simply flag for re-survey postcode data. Given that the Land Registry require a copyright notice, and, unlike OS Open Data, there is no such copyright notice on OSM, is this usage actually legal? I also note that the source is only given as a changeset comment, not a source tag. -- Reply Message -- Nick Allen nick.allen.54 at gmail.com Thu Sep 13 10:29:23 BST 2012 Matt, Thanks for your work on this. I've had a little play it looks ideal for my purpose you should see an improvement in the BR8 area as a direct result. If your not doing it already, could you put somewhere on the front page when the data was updated. My initial plan is to have one session a month correcting adding postcodes, but you may get other views. Regards Nick (Tallguy) Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Matt Williams lists at milliams.com To: Talk-GB at openstreetmap.org talk-gb at openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Land Registry postcode tool now running Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 01:00 Hi all, During the discussion about the Land Registry 'Price Paid' database discussions I promised that I'm put together a tool to make it more useful. As such I've now got working (to a state I'm happy with) a sub-website on my Postcode Finder to provide an interface to that data. Currently running at http://milliams.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodefinder/landregistry/ (there's no public link to it yet so you'll have to bookmark it) it does the following: Given a postcode (or postcode fragment) it finds all the houses in the Land Registry database and tries to match each of them up to an address in my Postcode Finder database. If it finds a match it classifies it into one of three classes: - The postcode matches between OSM and the Land Registry - The postcode doesn't match - There's no postcode If you perform a search (like http://milliams.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodefinder/landregistry/search/?postcode=CV4+8) you see that I've sorted the classes by 'importance' order so wrong postcodes are first, followed by missing postcodes. Then the ones that couldn't be matched to any address and finally the perfect matches. Give it a try yourself. It should be able to handle anything from CV4 level (will take around 10 seconds to load (probably more for big cities like Birmingham and London) down to CV4 8DU. It will almost certainly struggle if you try to put in B or something big like that. If you want to search for all the B1 postcodes but exclude B10, B11 etc (since that would be a very slow query) then just put a space after it in the search box (B1 ) or a plus in the URL (?postcode=B1+). It's probably best to only give it as specific a postcode as is possible (XXN N is quite quick) to keep the load low on the dev server. There's still some things I want to do with it but it's now in a workable state. The data from the OSM database is a few days old now. I'll wait for Geofabrik's ODbL extracts to be released before I update again. It should also be possible for me to extend the service to include and data source which contains house number; street name; postcode so I'll look into that in the future. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry postcode tool now running
== Quote == I've just noticed (changeset 18037116) someone using this Land Registry data search tool to actually populate, rather than simply flag for re-survey postcode data. Given that the Land Registry require a copyright notice, and, unlike OS Open Data, there is no such copyright notice on OSM, is this usage actually legal? == End Quote == Hi, Short answer= Yes, its fine, no problems. Long Answer= I was expecting that changeset to be mine, but pleased to see that other people are now using Matt's postcode tool. To answer your question:- The data is available under the standard Open Government Licence (just like the ONS Postcode Centroids that I am also using if it is right above a house), and can therefore be used with attribution. The attribution is on the Contributors page [1] and has been since 31 August 2012. Only a very select few sources are also attributed on the Copyright page [2] and the page makes it clear that you should see the Contributors page for the other sources. Best regards, Rob Nickerson [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Land_Registry_-_Price_paid_data [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry postcode tool now running
Oh I should add that I am a fan of source tags on the objects myself so I add a source:postcode=Land Registry 'Price Paid' data tag (or =ONS Postcode Centroids) to my edits. Not everyone agrees that source tags should be added to the objects, preferring instead to add them to the changeset comment. Regards, Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Hand-drawn OS maps on Wikimedia Commons
On 26 September 2013 12:39, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Each one has been georeferenced by the BL, and the coordinates for a bounding box and for the exact corner points are available; it's currently not displaying, but I'll be configuring this tonight. Corner coordinates are now displaying, allowing these to be aligned adjusted to fit. Have fun! -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry postcode tool now running
Looks like some very good work is going on in Ruislip! When I saw the initial comment I also expected the changeset to be mine as it's the sort of thing I've been doing as well. Although I try to add a source code to everything I add to the data, I'm pretty sure there are times when I miss something. It's quite good to have this double level of history added to any changes - not only can you add a source tag, in my case probably source=survey;Bing;Land Registry but on the occasion where you miss that there is the changeset comment as well which makes it clear. Looks as if this mapper has covered this angle pretty clearly. In a system where most of the 'rules' are governed by what most people have done, it's no surprise there is variation between how we apply a tag showing our sources. Anyway, if you're looking for a project in OSM, adding addresses is easily accomplished. Personally I currently use Keypad-Mapper 3 OSMTracker to do my surveying, and the exercise does me the world of good. If anyone fancies joining in, I've outlined how I carry out the process at http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy Regards Nick (Tallguy) On 28/09/13 20:45, Rob Nickerson wrote: == Quote == I've just noticed (changeset 18037116) someone using this Land Registry data search tool to actually populate, rather than simply flag for re-survey postcode data. Given that the Land Registry require a copyright notice, and, unlike OS Open Data, there is no such copyright notice on OSM, is this usage actually legal? == End Quote == Hi, Short answer= Yes, its fine, no problems. Long Answer= I was expecting that changeset to be mine, but pleased to see that other people are now using Matt's postcode tool. To answer your question:- The data is available under the standard Open Government Licence (just like the ONS Postcode Centroids that I am also using if it is right above a house), and can therefore be used with attribution. The attribution is on the Contributors page [1] and has been since 31 August 2012. Only a very select few sources are also attributed on the Copyright page [2] and the page makes it clear that you should see the Contributors page for the other sources. Best regards, Rob Nickerson [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Land_Registry_-_Price_paid_data [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry postcode tool now running
On 28 September 2013 20:45, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: == Quote == I've just noticed (changeset 18037116) someone using this Land Registry data search tool to actually populate, rather than simply flag for re-survey postcode data. Given that the Land Registry require a copyright notice, and, unlike OS Open Data, there is no such copyright notice on OSM, is this usage actually legal? == End Quote == Hi, Short answer= Yes, its fine, no problems. Long Answer= I was expecting that changeset to be mine, but pleased to see that other people are now using Matt's postcode tool. To answer your question:- The data is available under the standard Open Government Licence (just like the ONS Postcode Centroids that I am also using if it is right above a house), and can therefore be used with The view has been expressed, recently, on this list that the ONS postcode centroids are still encumbered by the Post Office copyrights. attribution. The attribution is on the Contributors page [1] and has been since 31 August 2012. Only a very select few sources are also attributed on the Copyright page [2] and the page makes it clear that you should see the Contributors page for the other sources. I must admit that I missed that, but I'm not convinced that LR will be happy with such a contorted trail. I think they would like a prominent notice in any place where the data is used. In particular, I can see people creating navigation tools and third party databases without making their uses adequately aware of the sources. Reading the LR FAQ, it is not just about the attribution, but about ensuring that people only make acceptable use of the data, as it is fairly clear that some people have objected to the price component of the data being published. This sort of information isn't being contributed by people actively agreeing to its use by OSM, so you can't really cover it by the and its contributors clause. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] National speed limit changes
Peter, After your first post on this, my initial thought was that you were correct and the simpler tag you were proposing was enough. I started following your proposal, but I've thought a little more feel that the more involved 'GB:nsl_single' type tag is actually needed I'll be going back through my work over the last couple of days and changing it back. My thinking is; i/. The basis of GB law is that it is up to the individual to know what the law states, and to comply with it. No matter what your SatNav tells you it won't help you when you are standing in a court explaining your actions - the SatNav is a guide only and some maintain that they are unsafe as they distract the driver who may therefore miss the speed limits being displayed. ii/. If you are driving a motor vehicle with very few exceptions you should comply with the law regarding speed limits. iia/. A built up area with street lighting (I'm not entirely sure how you define built up area, and I seem to remember something about the street lights being no more than 200 yards apart) will have a speed limit of 30 mph unless there are signs indicating otherwise, there should be repeater signs at intervals if it is not a 30mph area. iib/. National speed limit signs - the national speed limit has changed during my lifetime. Motorways are fairly simple, and for a car (not towing) it will be 70mph. Two-way roads with a national speed limit sign are also fairly simple, being 60mph for a car (not towing). Dual carriageways - little bit more complex - an island in the middle of the road to assist pedestrians to cross is not sufficient to make it a dual carriageway, but you would need to look at the current case law to help in deciding what exactly is a dual carriageway. I don't think a long length of wide road with the lanes divided by white crosshatch markings on the road, even if this exists for a length measured in miles, counts as a dual carriageway - it needs to have a physical barrier involved. iiic/. A prescribed limit indicated by signs such as '40', '50' etc.. iii/. The current software writers who seem to be using OSM data are mainly wrestling with the basics of navigating a car anywhere in the world but I think steps are being made towards navigation for larger vehicles, and these vehicles are likely to have different speed limits imposed on them in GB national speed limit areas. If they are writing software for navigating a 40 tonne lorry across Europe then the least we can do is try to indicate what type of road it is so they can attempt to give an indication to the driver of what is the maximum speed they may legally travel at. Regards Nick (Tallguy) Hi Peter, Thanks for replying here. Peter Miller wrote: So...on the basis that we should tag what is there, we see a white sign with a black diagonal line on it then that is what we should indicate. We do of course interpret that by putting what we believe if the correct legal speed limit in maxspeed. As such a single carriageway national limit is coded as maxspeed:type=gb:national,maxspeed=60 mph. As dual carriageway is tagged as maxspeed:type=gb:national,maxspeed=70 mph. The motorway version is highway=motorway,maxspeed:type=gb:national,maxspeed=70 mph. I understand the potential problem (does a national speed limit dual carriageway slip road count as a dual carriageway or not?) but am concerned that changing e.g. GB:nsl_single to gb:national will: o potentially obscure any underlying data errors (imagine something tagged maxspeed=70 mph, maxspeed:type=GB:nsl_single) o make things more difficult for data consumers (if only by changing the data from something that they might be expecting) o confuse new mappers who see data that they've entered being changed because it's wrong, when in reality there really isn't a concensus on this. I fully accept that national speed limit tagging in the UK is a mess (at the time of writing 4 of the top 6 values for http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/maxspeed:type#values could mean the same thing) but any consolidation must proceed following discussion. Sure, and I am politely inviting people to discuss the subject now and am suggesting that it makes a lot of sense to consolidate around a tag value which describes what one sees in front of one on the ground, ie a black and white sign. To be clear I in the habit of using the nsl_single and nsl_dual format until PinkDuck politely pointed out that I was tagging some slip-road etc incorrectly and we agreed that is made more sense to avoid the confusion in the first place and use the simpler gb:national. With regard to the other point: For avoidance of doubt, all my edits have been fully manual. I don't believe that anyone has suggested otherwise I was responding to Roberts comment above that I certainly don't think there has been any discussion of or agreement for a mass mechanical edit to change existing values. although I
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry postcode tool now running
On 28 September 2013 23:50, Nick Allen nick.allen...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, if you're looking for a project in OSM, adding addresses is easily accomplished. Personally I currently use Keypad-Mapper 3 OSMTracker to do my surveying, and the exercise does me the world of good. If anyone fancies joining in, I've outlined how I carry out the process at http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy That's how I started back on OSM. However, I am coming to have reservations about the use of GPS for that purpose. I found that I had to re-align everything to Bing for it to be useful, and, as I was mapping front door nodes, rather than buildings, I had to make a second pass to note the layout of the houses and to check for semis versus detached (the latter because of the GPS wander). Although it hasn't come back to the top of my list, I'm considering whether to dispense with the technology for the next tranche and just make notes to allow me to match up with Bing. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry postcode tool now running
On 28 September 2013 20:52, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Oh I should add that I am a fan of source tags on the objects myself so I add a source:postcode=Land Registry 'Price Paid' data tag (or =ONS Postcode Centroids) to my edits. Not everyone agrees that source tags should be added to the objects, preferring instead to add them to the changeset comment. I use a mixture of both, depending on the context. Both are flawed, though. Adding to objects doesn't work well when different tags have different sources, and the geometry may have a different one too. It is also very vulnerable to people replacing the whole source with theirs. Adding it to changeset comments means it doesn't survive splits and merges. The database has no knowledge that these actually happened and doesn't record the audit trail necessary to find the true provenance of a node, way or relation. (For this reason, any mechanical redaction is likely to be quite flawed.) This lack of good traceability does worry me, as I see one of the biggest threats to a cloud sourced project like this is people getting over enthusiastic and importing copyright data, possibly in such small individual amounts that no alarms sound, but when aggregated, enough to get a copyright owner angry. My feeling is that the upcoming generation of contributors isn't so steeped in the concept of a map that is untainted by material with restrictive copyrights, so will use the easiest way of getting the data they want added. The most important reason for sources may be to limit what has to be taken down when a take down notice is received. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry postcode tool now running
HADW, I can see where your concerns stem from, agree that some form of suitable source code to indicate where the data is derived from could mitigate any potential problems. At present there are some mappers, myself included, who are obtaining postcodes derived from the 'Land Registry price paid data' - we believe we are complying with the current legal requirements are not introducing anything tainted into the database. If we are subsequently shown to be wrong it could help any redaction process if we were all using the same tag to indicate the postcode was derived from the Land Registry Price Paid database. I'm currently planning to start using source:postcode=Land Registry 'price paid' data unless there is any strong guidance to indicate something more suitable. As the postcode is the only part of the data I am using, another simple search would be for any postcodes, and then check their source tag. Regards Nick (Tallguy) On 29/09/13 01:01, OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: On 28 September 2013 20:52, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Oh I should add that I am a fan of source tags on the objects myself so I add a source:postcode=Land Registry 'Price Paid' data tag (or =ONS Postcode Centroids) to my edits. Not everyone agrees that source tags should be added to the objects, preferring instead to add them to the changeset comment. I use a mixture of both, depending on the context. Both are flawed, though. Adding to objects doesn't work well when different tags have different sources, and the geometry may have a different one too. It is also very vulnerable to people replacing the whole source with theirs. Adding it to changeset comments means it doesn't survive splits and merges. The database has no knowledge that these actually happened and doesn't record the audit trail necessary to find the true provenance of a node, way or relation. (For this reason, any mechanical redaction is likely to be quite flawed.) This lack of good traceability does worry me, as I see one of the biggest threats to a cloud sourced project like this is people getting over enthusiastic and importing copyright data, possibly in such small individual amounts that no alarms sound, but when aggregated, enough to get a copyright owner angry. My feeling is that the upcoming generation of contributors isn't so steeped in the concept of a map that is untainted by material with restrictive copyrights, so will use the easiest way of getting the data they want added. The most important reason for sources may be to limit what has to be taken down when a take down notice is received. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-ht] Talking about OSM on Radio Lumiere,Haiti
Schneider Remy and Jean Bully Prophete are invited to talk about OSM and related option (Mobile app, crisis utility, ...) on Radio Lumiere. This event is in about three (3) hours and can listened on www.radiolumiere.org . The eventual issue is for those who do not speak creole because we will be interviewed in creole. If you are in Haiti turn your radio to 97.7 FM. OSM is to great to be unknown. ___ Talk-ht mailing list Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht Notez! Vous pouvez utiliser Google Translate (http://translate.google.com) pour traduire les messages.
Re: [Talk-ht] Talking about OSM on Radio Lumiere,Haiti
Eklat!! So Derchy and Bully i am proud of you guys!!! As we planned, I am online for any question during the interview, cours or radio training! So lets go guys! Lets go! On Sep 28, 2013 8:57 AM, Jean Bully PROPHETE jeanbu...@gmail.com wrote: Schneider Remy and Jean Bully Prophete are invited to talk about OSM and related option (Mobile app, crisis utility, ...) on Radio Lumiere. This event is in about three (3) hours and can listened on www.radiolumiere.org . The eventual issue is for those who do not speak creole because we will be interviewed in creole. If you are in Haiti turn your radio to 97.7 FM. OSM is to great to be unknown. ___ Talk-ht mailing list Talk-ht@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht Notez! Vous pouvez utiliser Google Translate (http://translate.google.com) pour traduire les messages.
