[Talk-us] Why OpenStreetMap US elections should use Single Transferable Vote (STV)

[Alan McConchie]

The 2016 OSM US elections aren't even over yet, but it's never too soon to 
start thinking about 2017. :) 

To that end, I wrote a diary post about why OSM US should switch to using 
Single Transferable Vote for its elections, like OSMF does. All of the current 
OSM US candidates support STV to various degrees: some enthusiastically, others 
cautiously (those who hadn't heard of it before) but none were strongly against 
it when I asked their opinions. With that kind of consensus, I hope that OSM US 
can switch to using STV before our next elections in 2017.

Read more on my diary: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Alan/diary/40094 



Alan___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

[OSM-talk] Merging Offline Edits with the POSM Replay Tool (blog post)

[Alan McConchie]

Hello everyone!

Many of you probably heard about the Portable OSM project that SpatialDev and 
Stamen have been working on with the American Red Cross.

Here's an introductory blog post if you missed it: 
https://hi.stamen.com/introducing-portable-openstreetmap-bff9b04c0e16 
, and 
there's the SOTM-US video here: 
http://stateofthemap.us/2016/field-mapping-at-scale/ 


Just today, Seth Fitzsimmons posted an extremely detailed blog post about how 
POSM merges offline edits with the main OSM database once the POSM unit comes 
back from the field. The process uses a git-inspired approach to detect which 
changes can be applied automatically without conflict, and which ones require 
manual oversight to merge with OSM.

Here's the blog post:
https://hi.stamen.com/merging-offline-edits-with-the-posm-replay-tool-2f39a4410d2a
 



Enjoy!

Alan___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-us] Caliparks re-tagging paths?

[Alan McConchie]

Hi Greg and others,

Following the official procedure for proposing a new tag 
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process>) I created that wiki 
page a few days ago, and now I've sent an email to the tagging list, to 
officially solicit feedback. 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2016-March/028966.html 
<https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2016-March/028966.html>

Thanks everyone for your strong but sincere criticism so far. In the thread 
here on talk-us, I explained _what_ we were trying to do, but I didn't explain 
very much about our rationale: _why_ we think this is an important idea. The 
wiki proposal explains that a little bit better, as does my email to the 
tagging list.

I know that there are a wide range of opinions within OSM, but I want to make 
it clear that we don't think we were "breaking" OSM data for anybody. We were 
applying the knowledge of local, on-the-ground experts in order to better 
describe the world within the free-form tagging system that exists within OSM. 
Remember that there are no hard and fast rules within OSM, only informal 
standards and common practices. Please also note that the official proposal 
process does not require anyone to have a new tag approved before they start 
using it. Also see: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like>

For now, I'm happy that Paul retagged the ways in question as highway=path, 
access=no. That's a fine compromise until we've gone through the RFC process 
for the new tag, and had an up or down vote. 

Looking forward to the rest of the discussion,

Alan McConchie
Stamen Design

> On Mar 25, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Greg Troxel <g...@ir.bbn.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> There seems to be some wiki-agitation going on about a "proposed tag" of
> social path.  Perhaps everyone who is opposed might want to look and
> register opposition, unless they are more opposed to wikifiddling than
> to this tag :-)
> 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Social_path
> ___
> Talk-us mailing list
> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] RFC: LA County building import

[Alan McConchie]

Hi Frederik,

> On Feb 12, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:
> 
> How many of your team are local to LA, and how are you cooperating with
> the OSM community in LA?

Of the four of us who have been preparing the data and who will be overseeing 
the import, two of us (Omar Ureta and Jon Schleuss) live and work in LA. One of 
us (myself) lived in LA in the past and travels there often for work. The 
fourth (Maning) doesn't live in LA.

We've got connections in the OSM and geospatial community in LA, especially 
through the local Maptime chapter which is one of the largest and most active 
chapters. We haven't started our outreach process in earnest yet, but we have 
github issues to track that, see: [0] and [1]

We consider this email to talk-us as the start of our outreach. 

> What is your estimate about participation of local mappers? Is it likely
> that we'll see 10 people participating, half of them not even living in
> the area, and each of them importing 300,000 of the 3 million buildings?
> 
> That would be my main fear about this; it is not unheard of for previous
> building footprint imports in the US to be called a "community import"
> but the community was really a very eager one-digit number of people who
> mostly didn't even have any ties to the area they were importing in.
> 
> Can we have the hope that the LA building footprint import will be
> handled by people who have actually been to the area they see on their
> editor screen?

We understand your concern. We are involving local mappers as much as possible 
through:

• organizing mapping events with a variety local mapping groups [0]
• contacting local OSM contributors via OSM.org [1]
• allowing local mappers to define areas where they don't want data 
imported [2]

> Will there be people participating in this community import as part of
> their day job?

Yes, the Mapbox data team [3] will assist, but we're going to make sure that 
the local OSM community is equally involved, and that we use this as an 
opportunity to grow the local OSM community on the ground. We have assurances 
that the Mapbox team will keep pace with the local mappers and not overtake 
them. If it takes us a long time to get local mappers involved, then the Mapbox 
team will back off and wait until the locals catch up.

We're not exactly sure how we're going to negotiate the balance of labor, and 
we're open to suggestions on how we can do this well. One possible idea is to 
divvy up the tasks in a kind of checkerboard pattern, with one group of tasks 
set aside for locals only. This way we could make sure that the Mapbox team and 
the local mappers are working side-by-side and checking each others' work.

Also note that the Mapbox Data Team had already started tracing buildings in LA 
County [4] and they agreed to stop that effort and instead join this manual 
import process. So I think that having the Mapbox team involved in the import 
is a better outcome than having them trace all the buildings without any local 
involvement, which would've been the alternative.

Alan



[0] https://github.com/osmlab/labuildings/issues/39
[1] https://github.com/osmlab/labuildings/issues/1
[2] https://github.com/osmlab/labuildings/issues/37
[3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapbox#Mapbox_Data_Team
[4] https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/148
___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Get your early bird ticket to State of the Map US!

[Alan McConchie]

We (the Maptime organizers) are also planning a Maptime summit/conference that 
will happen in conjunction with State of the Map US, so we hope that will also 
bring a lot of individuals (especially new mappers) who might not otherwise 
attend a State of the Map.

Alan

 On Feb 4, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com 
 mailto:penor...@mac.com wrote:
 On 2/4/2015 2:43 PM, Alex Barth wrote:
 
 Yup, that cutoff number is going to be somewhere beyond 1,000 - and we are 
 fully planning to sell out the conference :)
 Any idea what portion will be mappers and what will be companies or other 
 organizations? The feedback I've gotten is that the US conferences have been 
 increasingly focused on industry and data consumers, not the community.
 
 Paul, we also received that feedback and are working hard to encourage 
 *everyone* interested in OSM and mapping to attend.
 
 One of the ways we were planning on attracting more of the community was to 
 have a very strong scholarship program to help cover travel costs. You can 
 apply for that program here:
 
 http://stateofthemap.us/scholarships/ http://stateofthemap.us/scholarships/
 
 I'd love to hear thoughts on how we could reach out to and attract more of 
 the community. Who should we talk to? What kind of communication are they 
 most likely to listen to?
 ___
 Talk-us mailing list
 Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

[diversity-talk] moderation committee

[Alan McConchie]

Hi all,

I think there is more to be said over in the recent unpleasantness thread, 
and I don't want to derail that discussion. So I thought we could start a 
parallel thread to talk about one of Darrell's concrete proposals for moving 
forward: a moderation committee.

I don't know how complicated we want to make this. On the one hand, it's 
important to have moderators who have a mandate from the community and have the 
authority to act assertively when necessary, without the list second guessing 
them. On the other hand, how do we grant this authority without 
overcomplicating the situation with elections and whatnot? How do other mailing 
lists deal with this problem? Does anyone have any good examples to point to?

I definitely think Darrell needs help making these difficult and thankless 
moderator decisions, and I hope we get enough volunteers to help him out. I 
hope we can establish this committee quickly so we have a chance to appeal or 
review Darrell's decision sooner rather than later. As things stand, there is 
enough dissent on the list that the current moderator's authority has been 
undermined. 

For the record, I support Darrell's decision, and I would have voted the same 
way if I had also been a moderator.


Alan
___
diversity-talk mailing list
diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk

Re: [Talk-us] Rand McNally is using OSM

[Alan McConchie]

On the help page there is a link to 
http://www.randmcnally.com/legal/doc/tripmaker-attribution 
http://www.randmcnally.com/legal/doc/tripmaker-attribution, which has 
attribution for OpenStreetMap. However, I can't actually get to that page from 
the Help window: there is some javascript intercepting my click. I had to 
manually type that url into my browser to view it.

I'm CCing h...@mapbox.com so they know about the broken link.

Alan


 On Nov 22, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Haven't found the attribution yet, but Hans is right. In my county, I can 
 clearly see that the buildings shown on the RMcN map match ones in OSM, 
 including neighborhoods where I drew some houses but skipped others because 
 the imagery isn't clear enough. 
 
 -jack
 
 
 On November 22, 2014 9:46:08 PM EST, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net 
 wrote:
 On 11/22/14 9:29 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote:
 Rand McNally is using OSM in TripMaker. Say what? No way.
 
 1.) http://tripmaker.randmcnally.com/ http://tripmaker.randmcnally.com/
 2.) https://www.mapbox.com/blog/rand-mcnally-uses-mapbox/ 
 https://www.mapbox.com/blog/rand-mcnally-uses-mapbox/
 perhaps someone smarter than i am can point out where the
 attribution for OSM contributors is on the Rand McNally site.
 
 richard
 -- 
 rwe...@averillpark.net mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net
  Averill Park Networking - GIS  IT Consulting
  OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux
  Java - Web Applications - Search
 
 
 Talk-us mailing list
 Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us 
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
 
 -- 
 Typos courtesy of fancy auto-spell technology.
 ___
 Talk-us mailing list
 Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Rand McNally is using OSM

[Alan McConchie]

Yes, the map will show updated OSM data within minutes, like all of Mapbox's 
maps that are based on their Mapbox Streets vector data tiles.

https://www.mapbox.com/blog/vector-tiles/ 
https://www.mapbox.com/blog/vector-tiles/

Alan

 On Nov 22, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
 
 A school I just added is also there. I'm impressed that they are using up to 
 the minutes data. 
 
 On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Dave Mansfield mansfie...@chartermi.net 
 mailto:mansfie...@chartermi.net wrote:
 It’s OSM. Looking at edits I made I found an error on the map. I then went to 
 OSM and the error was there so I fixed it. I then reloaded Rand McNally and 
 it was fixed.
 
  
 
 Dave Mansfield
 
 
 ___
 Talk-us mailing list
 Talk-us@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us 
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 @osm_seattle
 osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us http://osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us/
 OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch
 ___
 Talk-us mailing list
 Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk] Status of Field Papers

[Alan McConchie]

Hello Arun! 

At Stamen we are aware that Field Papers has been down for a few days (at least 
the atlas generation part) and we're working on fixing it.

We appreciate how important Field Papers is to the OSM community, and we 
welcome ideas about how to improve its stability and to find resources to 
support it. We'd be happy to work with the OSMF, HOT or any other organization 
to apply for funds for further improvements to Field Papers. We also would love 
to find ways for other developers and support staff to get involved in the 
maintenance and improvement of field papers. If you (or anyone) would like to 
help, please get in touch!

We hope to get Field Papers back online very soon. Thanks for your patience, 
and we're sorry for any inconvenience!

Alan McConchie
Design Technologist
Stamen Design
1 (415) 558-1610


 On Nov 9, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello from India! As part of a national digital literacy program my team has 
 been experimenting with using fieldpapers[1] to introduce mapping to students 
 from rural areas. 
 
 However it looks like the service is currently down and atlas generation has 
 not been possible over the past few days. This has brought our training 
 program to an abrupt halt.
 
 Given the tremendous educational value of field papers, it would be welcome 
 if the OSMF could support running such a service to make it more reliable and 
 an integrated part of the osm.org http://osm.org/ homepage.
 
 Unfortunately we don't have the technical resources to fork the project at 
 the moment, but it would be greatly appreciated if anyone can provide 
 alternate solutions in the short term to continue to use field papers or a 
 similar service to get more people to map.
 
 [1] http://fieldpapers.org/ http://fieldpapers.org/
 
 -- 
 Arun Ganesh
 (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad 
 http://j.mp/ArunGanesh___
 talk mailing list
 talk@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Status of Field Papers

[Alan McConchie]

Atlas creation on Field Papers is back up again! Sorry everyone for the 
extended downtime! 

We are still having some issues where there are occasional black tiles showing 
up on the maps. We're working on this problem, and if you come across any black 
map tiles, please send me an email at a...@stamen.com or file an issue on 
github here: https://github.com/stamen/fieldpapers/issues 
https://github.com/stamen/fieldpapers/issues

In the meantime, if you get any atlases with black tiles, try regenerating the 
atlas. Usually this takes care of the problem.

Alan McConchie
Design Technologist
Stamen Design
1 (415) 558-1610___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-us] OSMF AGM election results

[Alan McConchie]

Richard, thanks for the great work you and the other election monitors did to 
make this election run so smoothly. And thanks particularly for your series of 
blog posts explaining how STV (the Single Transferable Vote) works.

I’ve been a supporter of election reform for a long time (something acutely 
needed in the US, Canada, and the UK) and STV is by far the best and most 
practical system I’m aware of. It was a pleasure to get to use it in this OSMF 
election.

I’m fascinated by the chart you posted [1] that shows how the votes transferred 
through each round of voting. It’s interesting to compare the candidates’ 
manifestos and look for “coalitions of voters who transferred their votes 
between candidates with similar platforms. One of the great things about STV is 
that similar candidates don’t have to worry about stealing votes from one 
another. STV also discourages negative campaigns, because candidates want to 
gain their competitors’ 2nd and 3rd votes (and so on). Therefore, candidates 
are less likely to make personal attacks against their competitors. Given all 
the other chaos and strife that was going on with the OSMF leading up to the 
election, and also because STV is a new addition to OSMF’s electoral process, 
it’s too hard to say if STV had any meaningful positive impact on the tone of 
this election. Maybe we can say more in future years.

I would love it if we adopted STV for the OSM US elections. Has there been any 
discussion about that in the past?

[1] http://weait.com/sites/default/files/board-2014.png 
http://weait.com/sites/default/files/board-2014.png

Alan

 On Nov 9, 2014, at 6:42 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
 
 The OpenStreetMap Foundation held the 2014 AGM yesterday including
 votes on several matters including the election to the board.
 
 The results are summarized on the wiki. Official results will be on
 the Foundation web site in future.
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM14
 
 I've added some background on STV (voting method) because it is the
 first time I have been involved in it.  Learn along with me at my site
 http://weait.com  in several recent articles and several more on the
 way.

___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap and the Ada Initiative #osm4ada

[Alan McConchie]

The Ada Initiative [1] is an organization doing important work supporting women 
in open technology and culture, and right now they're raising money to fund 
their work for the next year. Thanks to Kathleen Danielson (diary entry here 
[2]) there is now an OpenStreetMap campaign to donate to Ada before their 
fundraising deadline on October 8th. We set a goal of USD $ 2,048 for this 
campaign, and we're already 25% of the way there after only a few hours!

To donate to Ada and show that diversity is important to the OpenStreetMap 
community, please use this OSM donation link: 
https://adainitiative.org/donate/?campaign=openstreetmap

You can use the hashtag #osm4ada to show OSM's support of the Ada Initiative in 
any social media posts about the campaign.

Note, to my knowledge there is no specific OSM-related Ada activities that will 
be supported by these funds. Your donation is primarily to help the Ada 
Initiative's work in general. However, the more of us donate to the Ada 
campaign on behalf of OSM, the more those donations will count as informal 
votes for more OSM+Ada collaboration in the future.

Alan

[1] http://adainitiative.org/
[2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/KathleenLD/diary/23967
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[Talk-us] OpenStreetMap and the Ada Initiative #osm4ada

[Alan McConchie]

The Ada Initiative [1] is an organization doing important work supporting women 
in open technology and culture, and right now they're raising money to fund 
their work for the next year. Thanks to Kathleen Danielson (diary entry here 
[2]) there is now an OpenStreetMap campaign to donate to Ada before their 
fundraising deadline on October 8th. We set a goal of USD $ 2,048 for this 
campaign, and we're already 25% of the way there after only a few hours!

To donate to Ada and show that diversity is important to the OpenStreetMap 
community, please use this OSM donation link: 
https://adainitiative.org/donate/?campaign=openstreetmap

You can use the hashtag #osm4ada to show OSM's support of the Ada Initiative in 
any social media posts about the campaign.

Note, to my knowledge there is no specific OSM-related Ada activities that will 
be supported by these funds. Your donation is primarily to help the Ada 
Initiative's work in general. However, the more of us donate to the Ada 
campaign on behalf of OSM, the more those donations will count as informal 
votes for more OSM+Ada collaboration in the future.

Alan

[1] http://adainitiative.org/
[2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/KathleenLD/diary/23967
___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

[diversity-talk] OpenStreetMap and the Ada Initiative #osm4ada

[Alan McConchie]

The Ada Initiative [1] is an organization doing important work supporting women 
in open technology and culture, and right now they're raising money to fund 
their work for the next year. Thanks to Kathleen Danielson (diary entry here 
[2]) there is now an OpenStreetMap campaign to donate to Ada before their 
fundraising deadline on October 8th. We set a goal of USD $ 2,048 for this 
campaign, and we're already 25% of the way there after only a few hours!

To donate to Ada and show that diversity is important to the OpenStreetMap 
community, please use this OSM donation link: 
https://adainitiative.org/donate/?campaign=openstreetmap

You can use the hashtag #osm4ada to show OSM's support of the Ada Initiative in 
any social media posts about the campaign.

Note, to my knowledge there is no specific OSM-related Ada activities that will 
be supported by these funds. Your donation is primarily to help the Ada 
Initiative's work in general. However, the more of us donate to the Ada 
campaign on behalf of OSM, the more those donations will count as informal 
votes for more OSM+Ada collaboration in the future.

Alan

[1] http://adainitiative.org/
[2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/KathleenLD/diary/23967
___
diversity-talk mailing list
diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM completeness

[Alan McConchie]

You should also check out a few academic research groups that have done studies 
on completeness in OSM:

 * Muki Haklay and his collaborators at University College London
 * Peter Mooney and Padraig Corcoran at National University of Ireland
 * Pascal Neis and Alexander Zipf at Heidelberg University

Alan

On Sep 3, 2014, at 5:15 AM, Imre Samu pella.s...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  completeness of the road datasets in OSM.
 
 if you are interested the Street(=road) name comparision 
 - check this local projects:
 
 #OSM Housenumber Evaluation ( with street names )  : 
 https://www.sotm-eu.org/slides/58.pdf ( video: 
 https://www.sotm-eu.org/en/slots/50 )
 http://regio-osm.de/hausnummerauswertung/auswertung_auswahlort 
 (Germany, Austria, Iceland, Romania, Luxemburg,.. )
 
 #Hungary : Street name completeness statistics :  http://82.196.14.91/  ( my 
 development )
 
 #Switzerland : http://qa.poole.ch/ch-roads/
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_-_GWR_Street_and_Place_Names_Comparison
 
 #UK  - 
  Completeness analysis and ranking of UK councils by ITO World comparing OS 
 Locator data.
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_and_OSL_differences_analysis
  http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/main
 
 Imre
 
 
 
 2014-09-02 14:29 GMT+02:00 Eleanor Stokes eleanor.sto...@yale.edu:
 Hi list,
 Not sure if this is the right place to post--but I just got into using OSM and
 am hoping to utilize it for some of my research.  I need to get some kind of
 completeness metric for each of the cities I am looking at (about 200 of 
 them).
 
 Does anyone happen to know of completeness analyses
 across cities in different regions that have been performed?
 I'm particularly interested in the completeness of the
 road datasets in OSM.
 
 
 
 ___
 talk mailing list
 talk@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
 
 ___
 talk mailing list
 talk@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Street Name

[Alan McConchie]

Leavenworth is a former logging town that has been turned into a mock Bavarian 
village as a tourist attraction. So I'm not surprised that they are adding 
Weg to their streets to seem more Germanic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leavenworth,_Washington

Alan

On May 29, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Weg is German, approximately means way. It's right as it is, no 
 abbreviation.
 
 Funny though that it's outside of the German Sprachraum. Is Leavenworth a 
 town with a lot of German heritage?
 
 On May 29, 2014 4:37 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
 I need help with a street name. In Leavenworth, WA there is a street named 
 Edelweiss Weg that I want to add. Is Weg an abbreviation for something? It 
 will be tagged highway=service service=alley. Google translate doesn't help. 
 
 If it is an abbreviation, should it be expanded as we usually do?
 
 Thanks from someone with a language deficit. 
 
 @osm_seattle
 osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us
 OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch
 
 ___
 talk mailing list
 talk@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
 
 ___
 talk mailing list
 talk@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-us] Last call spring #editathon

[Alan McConchie]

We had a big turnout in San Francisco, with about 40 people showing up over the 
course of the day. We think we had a peak of about 30 people all at the same 
time in the early afternoon, around 2-3pm. By the end of the day the numbers 
dwindled to about a dozen.

Big thanks to Telenav for buying pizzas for the contributors who stayed until 
dinner time!

I wrote up a post (including pictures) on the Stamen blog here: 
http://content.stamen.com/openstreetmap_spring_editathon

Alan


On Apr 29, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll amplify Alex' comment about our DC editathon by adding that two of our 
 participants were a father-son team mapping their neighborhood. Let's do more 
 to encourage parents to bring their kids and get youthful mappers in the 
 pipeline. Get 'em started young and make lifelong mappers out of 'em. 
 
 -- SEJ
 -- twitter: @geomantic
 -- skype: sejohnson8
 
 There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from 
 incomplete data.
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Alex Barth a...@openstreetmap.us wrote:
 DC went great with about 25 people showing up. Had a great conversation here 
 with steven johnson about going more directly after student participants. 
 Maybe a model for other editathons too? For dc, it definitely helps branding 
 the editathon as explicitly open to beginners. We routinely have about 10 
 pple show up who havent done much openstreetmap before.
 
 
 On Sunday, April 27, 2014, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
 I got pretty much no response locally to the idea, but then discovered that 
 eastern Oklahoma was already awash in events this weekend.  I ultimately went 
 to Wild Nights and I'm doing laundry now.  I believe we also had a couple big 
 renfaires and a maker's fair in the region this weekend, and next weekend's 
 another big renfaire weekend.  Aah, the perils of trying to organize an 
 editathon in a part of the country where nerdy pursuits are mainstream!
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Alex Barth a...@openstreetmap.us wrote:
 This weekend the annual OpenStreetMap spring #editathon takes place in the US.
 
 Are you planning to host an #editathon this upcoming weekend?
 
 Put your place on the list to be in the blog announcement on openstreetmap.us 
 tomorrow: 
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_Spring_Editathon_2014
 
 Learn all about #editathon's here: 
 http://openstreetmap.us/2013/07/why-editathons/
 
 Alex
 
 -- 
 Alex Barth
 Secretary
 OpenStreetMap United States Inc.
 
 ___
 Talk-us mailing list
 Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Alex Barth
 Secretary
 OpenStreetMap United States Inc.
 
 
 ___
 Talk-us mailing list
 Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
 
 
 ___
 Talk-us mailing list
 Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

[OSM-talk] Where should OSM announcements happen? Was: Upgraded map controls

[Alan McConchie]

So, I finally caught up on the long Upgraded map controls and Bringing new 
life to OSM.org threads. I was especially interested in the discussion about 
where major changes to OSM should be announced, whether on talk, or 
rails-dev, or github, or IRC, or the blog, etc. 

As far as I can tell, nobody mentioned the annou...@openstreetmap.org list. 
Surely that list is an ideal low-traffic venue for informing the community of 
impending changes, and directing people to an appropriate forum for further 
discussion? 


Alan

On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:24 PM, colliar wrote:

 Am 21.07.2013 22:01, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
 Hi,
 
 On 21.07.2013 21:28, Kai Krueger wrote:
 It begs the question, if this high level design decisions shouldn't
 live on
 the design@ list instead of rails-dev or in the git-hub bug tracker.
 
 Yes, I can imagine that to some a you only have to follow rails-dev is
 a very hitchhikers-guidesque response.
 
 My impression is this:
 
 1. Lots of people re-iterate the mantra that mailing lists (and talk
 in particular) are places where you'll only get flak for all your good
 ideas, and endless bikeshedding, and whatnot. I think that this is not
 supported by facts.
 
 2. Therefore if you do something you're tempted to ignore the mailing
 lists, as everyone tells you they're the pits of hell.
 
 3. Therefore, people on the mailing lists - even the majority that is
 not troublemakers - feel sidelined, and complain.
 
 Often even *informing* people in advance could help a lot.
 
 I think that the situation would already be much improved if, when
 something of greater importance pops up on rails-dev or elsewhere,
 someone informs the talk list about that. For example, in the specific
 case, once TomH had set up the working branch with the new UI, a quick
 note should have gone up on talk: look here this new design, being
 discussed here in case you want to say something. A couple of people
 might want to say something but the majority will just be pleased to
 have been told about it.
 
 Anyone can do this cross-pollination of the talk list, and maybe we
 should make it a habit.
 
 +1
 
 I'll start with:
 
 Hi everyone, there's an idea to provide a new welcome/landing page
 used to send new users to, or maybe those who come to OSM via one of the
 sites using OSM maps. It can be viewed here
 
 http://welcome.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/welcome
 
 and the discussion is here
 
 https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/338
 
 Please, use an own thread for announcements, otherwise they are often
 missed.
 
 colliar
 
 
 ___
 talk mailing list
 talk@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk



signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-us] Edit-a-thon promotion

[Alan McConchie]

Great idea, Martijn! 

Another site that might be useful for contacting people at the neighborhood 
scale is Nextdoor.com. It's not quite the same concept as Neighborland, but the 
people who have signed up for the site are similarly concerned with what's 
going on in their local area.

Alan

On Jul 9, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

 Hey all,
 
 I found out about NeighborLand today and am using it as one of the channels 
 to promote the SLC edit-a-thon -- 
 https://neighborland.com/ideas/salt-lake-city-to-improve-openstreetmap 
 Perhaps it's useful for you as well, either for promoting a local edit-a-thon 
 or just to let people know about your local OSM group. At least the people on 
 there are somehow concerned with what's happening around them, so they might 
 be a good target demographic for your next mapping party or mappy hour!
 
 Martijn
 
 -- 
 Martijn van Exel
 http://oegeo.wordpress.com/
 http://openstreetmap.us/
 ___
 Talk-us mailing list
 Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk] #Occupy camps in OSM?

[Alan McConchie]

Hi Frederik,

On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
 I was just pointing out that if a number of people decide to put up tents 
 somewhere, that place might be a camp but not a camp site, certainly not 
 one in the sense of tourism=camp_site. (Hint: A camp site is still a camp 
 site even when there are no tents.)

I appreciate your argument that tourism=camp_site might not be the correct tag. 
I would quibble about the distinction between camp and camp_site; the 
#occupy camps are not officially signed or recognized as camp sites, yet they 
may be so in terms of the on-the-ground rule. In most of the cases where camps 
have been cleared by police, the protestors have returned and erected new 
tents. So instead of camps, are they perhaps temporary/provisional/unofficial 
camp sites? 

It seems like the crux of the issue is whether the tourism=camp_site tag is 
meant to exclude all non-touristic camps and camp sites. Or is not relevant 
that this tag uses the tourism key? Couldn't it just as easily have used the 
leisure, amenity or landuse tag? 

 The mapping of an #occupy camp itself does not have a political aspect; 
 what's there on the ground can be mapped. However, attracting above-par 
 visibility to such a camp by purposefully mis-tagging it as a 
 tourism=camp_site *does* have a political aspect, and would only be 
 permissible if carried by a vast majority of the project as was the case with 
 Haiti.

I disagree that this is a question about tagging for the renderer. I think the 
question is whether tourism=camp_site is used and interpreted broadly enough to 
include a protest camp. If it is interpreted loosely, then using that tag is 
not attracting above-par visibility. Also, if we do choose new tags, (and 
assuming they get onto the mapnik rendering) I would hope that they would be no 
more or less visible than tourism=camp_site already is, so it's not an attempt 
to jump up in zoom levels. Personally I think there would be little harm in 
using the tourism key in this case, but others may disagree.

 I think the #occupy camps should be mapped in all detail, with special tags, 
 and someone should take it upon them to make specialist maps where these tags 
 are rendered. (Our best zoom level, 18, is not very suitable for camps 
 anyway, you would want to have 19 or 20 to make a proper camp map.)

Good point. This alone might be a good enough reason to use a special 
rendering, or not use OSM altogether. 


Alan


___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] #Occupy camps in OSM?

[Alan McConchie]

Hi Gregory,

That was me tweeting about Occupy Vancouver (the perils of having a twitter 
handle that's unrelated to my real name). I would like to map the internal 
structure of the camps in detail, although I am still uncertain if that much 
detail makes sense to include in OSM. But I figured that if people were going 
to do some mapping, there's no harm in using Walking Papers as their basemap, 
whether or not the maps get traced into OSM in the end. Here are a couple 
example maps someone else made that used Google Maps as the basemap, so they 
can't go into OSM no matter what we decide about tagging and appropriate levels 
of detail: http://yfrog.com/nvmzi5j http://yfrog.com/nx3vnnj

Regarding the tags, isn't civil_disobedience=camp_site extremely specific? I 
can't really think of any other forms of civil_disobedience that would be 
long-lasting enough to include in OSM (and even the #occupy camps are pushing 
the limits of appropriate longevity for OSM). Perhaps a more generic tag that 
would also work for the refugee camps, too? 

Alan

On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Gregory wrote:

 I would suggest it would be nice to do a mashup with OSM + occupy locations.
 But then it is possibly helpful for the locations to be crowd sourced, so you 
 could add it into OSM with some tagging that would not disrupt current 
 renderers/programs.
 
 Go with civil_disobedience=camp_site?
 I don't know about the other details('bookshops', tents etc), I'd be less 
 inclined to add those in.
 
 http://twitter.com/mappingmashups Was tweeting about mapping Occupy 
 Vancouver. But I *think* his aim was to map the detail in the areas they are 
 occupying.
 http://twitter.com/#!/mappingmashups/status/133662563169869824
 
 Gregory.

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] #Occupy camps in OSM?

[Alan McConchie]

Hi everyone,

I mooted this question on the IRC, but I also wanted to ask it here, too. 
Should the temporary camps of the #OccupyWallStreet movement be mapped in OSM? 
Clearly these are temporary and rapidly changing structures, but some of the 
camps have remained relatively stable for several weeks now. OSM already 
includes things like Burning Man, which only lasts for one week.

Does anyone know of any #Occupy camps that have already been mapped? I checked 
NYC, London, San Francisco and Oakland and didn't see anything. Or, have any 
similar camps been mapped in OSM already, other than Burning Man? 

I figure we could use many of the same features that Burning Man uses, 
primarily tourism:camp_site, plus keys like start_date and end_date (if 
applicable). 

I also should say that I don't think it needs to be a political question 
whether or not OSM supports the #Occupy movement. Whether or not we agree with 
the protests, these are newsworthy places that many people would like to know 
about, not just the protestors.


Thanks,

Alan
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-ca] Alberta? Quebec? BC? Where are you?

[Alan McConchie]

Would a compromise location like Metrotown work for you mappers in New West, 
Tri-Cities and South of Fraser? 

I'm out at UBC and the westside of Vancouver, and I also feel too busy to 
organize a meetup, but I recognize we ought to start one anyway!

Alan

On Sep 18, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Paul Norman wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com]
 It is wonderful to see the increasing numbers of OSM groups in Canada.
 Fredericton, NB is the newest group to start, earlier this year, but
 who will be next?
 
 Will it be Vancouver, or do Van-OSMers just pop across to Seattle to get
 their Mappy Hour needs filled?
 
 We all are busy on our mountain bikes in the trails. :)
 
 I'd be interested in a mappy hour in BC. I don't have the time to organize
 one. I know there are a few of us in the New West/Coquitlam area so
 something out this way might work. The other obvious location is downtown
 Vancouver.
 
 
 ___
 Talk-ca mailing list
 Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca


___
Talk-ca mailing list
Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Alberta? Quebec? BC? Where are you?

[Alan McConchie]

I've never attended an OSM local user group, but I assumed we were just looking 
for somewhere central that we can regularly meet, not someplace that 
necessarily needs the attention of a mapping party. But I'm flexible. 

I'll start messaging some of the active mappers in the area and see if they 
have any preferences as to where we should meet.

Alan

On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
 
 Metrotown would work for me, but I can't speak for alexz or mbiker, the two
 mappers who I know are in the tri-cities. I am actually not aware of any
 mappers south of the Fraser.
 
 Metrotown itself looks decently mapped but it looks like a lot more could be
 mapped in the surrounding area.
 
 I commute between New West and either Richmond or UBC on weekdays, so pretty
 much anywhere in the Lower Mainland is an option for me. 
 


___
Talk-ca mailing list
Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: Wiki page on meetup

[Alan McConchie]

If we want a location really close to the OSGeo meeting, we could go to Waves 
at 1198 W Pender Street. Free WiFi, probably a lot of power outlets.

Alan

On Jul 17, 2010, at 8:05 AM, Adam Dunn wrote:

 Sam was replying to an off-list message, so here's the wiki link:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vancouver/July2010
 
 Once we have a location figured out, I'm going to add the event to the 
 calendar of events on the OSM wiki main page. Anybody know a good place to 
 go? Got any connections?
 
 Adam
 
 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi all.
 For anyone who will be in Vancouver on july 27th and july 28th, please
 add your names to the wiki page for the RSVP so then we can pick a
 location which would be best.
 
 For the who are remote, attendence is VERY welcome via skype call and
 video, as your insights are valuable, the more people we have
 attending, the more lively the debate :-)
 and also, depending on who attends it will shape the discussions. (we
 will also have the #osm-ca irc chat open also)
 i'll be in town for the day on the 28th so im happy to meetup we just
 need to arrange a time.
 if your unable to attend, but wanted to, please list your name, so
 then we can plan for the next meetup in the fall, as part of a
 trans-canada mapping marathon.
 
 
 cheers,
 Sam Vekemans
 Across Canada Trails
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Adam Dunn dunna...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:39:03 -0700
 Subject: Wiki page on meetup
 To: Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vancouver/July2010
 
 
 
 --
 Twitter: @Acrosscanada
 Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/
 http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans
 Skype: samvekemans
 IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room)
 @Acrosscanadatrails
 
 ___
 Talk-ca mailing list
 Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
 
 ___
 Talk-ca mailing list
 Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

___
Talk-ca mailing list
Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: Wiki page on meetup

[Alan McConchie]

I haven't been to that one, but all the other Waves locations have no problem 
with large groups camping out for extended periods. I don't spend much time in 
that area, so maybe there are better options?

Alan

On Jul 17, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Adam Dunn wrote:

 1198 W Pender is around the intersection of Bute and Pender. The OSGeo 
 meeting is at 1177 W Hastings (1 street over and 11 address parcels down). 
 They're about 200 meters apart.
 
 Have you been there before Alan? Are they accepting of large crowds gathering 
 for 2 hours? My list of people to email is around 50 and I'm hoping for 5 or 
 6 to show up. I'm sure some of us would buy drinks, of course...
 
 Adam
 
 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Alan McConchie alan.mcconc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 If we want a location really close to the OSGeo meeting, we could go to Waves 
 at 1198 W Pender Street. Free WiFi, probably a lot of power outlets.
 
 Alan
 
 On Jul 17, 2010, at 8:05 AM, Adam Dunn wrote:
 
 Sam was replying to an off-list message, so here's the wiki link:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vancouver/July2010
 
 Once we have a location figured out, I'm going to add the event to the 
 calendar of events on the OSM wiki main page. Anybody know a good place to 
 go? Got any connections?
 
 Adam
 
 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi all.
 For anyone who will be in Vancouver on july 27th and july 28th, please
 add your names to the wiki page for the RSVP so then we can pick a
 location which would be best.
 
 For the who are remote, attendence is VERY welcome via skype call and
 video, as your insights are valuable, the more people we have
 attending, the more lively the debate :-)
 and also, depending on who attends it will shape the discussions. (we
 will also have the #osm-ca irc chat open also)
 i'll be in town for the day on the 28th so im happy to meetup we just
 need to arrange a time.
 if your unable to attend, but wanted to, please list your name, so
 then we can plan for the next meetup in the fall, as part of a
 trans-canada mapping marathon.
 
 
 cheers,
 Sam Vekemans
 Across Canada Trails
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Adam Dunn dunna...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:39:03 -0700
 Subject: Wiki page on meetup
 To: Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vancouver/July2010
 
 
 
 --
 Twitter: @Acrosscanada
 Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/
 http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans
 Skype: samvekemans
 IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room)
 @Acrosscanadatrails
 
 ___
 Talk-ca mailing list
 Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
 
 ___
 Talk-ca mailing list
 Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
 
 
 ___
 Talk-ca mailing list
 Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
 
 

___
Talk-ca mailing list
Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca