[Talk-ca] Problem with overpasses in NB??
Here is an example - http://osm.org/go/cgZ854R_8-- The problem is that there is an intersection node between McKinnon Road and Route 8 but there is an overpass bridge at this location. I presume there is not supposed to be an intersection where roads cross at a bridge. In Potlatch2 both ways are at the default layer=ground - one way needs to be adjusted to indicate the grade separation. I noticed this at several other locations and made the corrections. But I am wondering if this problem originates with the Canvec data or if a mapper has created these intersections? Can somebody provide some additional insight? Is this also a problem in other provinces? Thanks, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Problem with overpasses in NB??
Richard, What I would like to do is run a query with the Overpass API that would identify the locations of this error so we can all judge how large an issue this is. Unfortunately I have never written an Overpass API query and I would like some assistance. Recently this query (http://goo.gl/AYJ0Nt) that identifies errors in Motorway links was shared on Talk-CA and I modified the bounding box to run it against New Brunswick. Can somebody help me out with a query that identifies unnecessary intersections in bridges? TIA, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng New maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca From: Richard Weait [rich...@weait.com] Sent: December 2, 2013 4:50 PM To: Connors, Bernie (SNB) Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Problem with overpasses in NB?? On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote: Here is an example - http://osm.org/go/cgZ854R_8-- The problem is that there is an intersection node between McKinnon Road and Route 8 but there is an overpass bridge at this location. That does look like an error, I've fixed that one. The history on the involved objects is short, and suggests that it is an import. Do you want to contact the mapper and ask about the matter? ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...
+1 for the Maproulette.org solution. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Tel: 506-444-2077 bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca SNB - We make it happen... [cid:image001.jpg@01CEEA88.7BAFBE50] From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 2013-11-25 5:05 PM To: Daniel Begin Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ... On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Daniel Begin jfd...@hotmail.commailto:jfd...@hotmail.com wrote: Hooo, I see, and I also see there was not a large consensus on that point (Discussion) since all other ways are having a different behavior... About all motorway_link in Canada are having the same problem! I don't know, I rarely encounter this issue in practice. Adding oneway=no to all motorway_link seems rather dangerous and counterproductive. The best solution would probably be to create a query that will find all imported motorway_link that have not been touched since the import and then check them. Depending on how big the task is we could ask Martijn to set it up as a Maproulette (http://maproulette.org/). Or we set up a wiki page to coordinate people going through all the motorways/exits and make sure everything is okay by hand. There are only 33 Autoroutes in Quebec after all :-) Harald. inline: image001.jpg___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis
Guillaume, IMHO all of your issues could be solved with applications of the OSM data. The goal of OSM is to create an open data set that can be used by anybody to solve all of the issues in your list. The goal of OSM is not to create a replacement for the Google Maps website but to create an alternative to the Google Maps data. All of your issues could be addressed with OSM data and some programming. I expect some or all of your issues have already been addressed. For example the OSMR website is great for routing and driving directions - http://map.project-osrm.org/ Let's hear from the rest of the OSM talk-ca community. Who has suggestions for Guillaume's other issues? Bernie. -Original Message- From: Guillaume Pratte [mailto:guilla...@guillaumepratte.net] Sent: Tuesday, 2013-07-09 1:42 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis Hello, I have been a serious user of OpenStreetMap for less than six months, and I am proud to recently have achieved my one hundredth contribution to the project. I really love the OpenStreetMap project, and I would like to replace my daily usage of Google Maps with OpenStreetMap. But it just seems I cannot. Anybody else feel the same issues? I'll give a few concrete examples why, humbly hoping that my words can encourage changes to the main website. First point: searching. I have OpenStreetMap zoomed in to some region of Montreal, Canada. I input café, looking for a coffee shop. I get results from Nominatim, inviting me to visit a village in Brazil named Café or even the Café point in Antarctica. While these search results awaken my globetrotter's desire to explore the world, they frustrate me at the same time. Why couldn't Nominatim priorize results from the bounding box or surrounding? Why can't OpenStreetMap show me results on the map like the OverPass API does, performing a search on the tag amenity=cafe and showing the results on the map? Second point: accessing POI information. I cannot click on point of interests (POI) to get more info about them. Why do we input address, business hours and phone numbers on shops and restaurants if the map cannot easily display this information to the user? Why do I have to show the map's data in order to have information on a point of interest? Third point: maximum zoom level. Some area are densely populated, and OpenStreetMap's current zoom level is not enough to see all details of the map. This is really unfortunate. Example: http://osm.org/go/cIrNs6Qzp-- What are the restaurant surrounding the Hard Rock Café on this map? I have to use the editor to be able to zoom and see all data. Fourth point: sharing a point of interest. There should be an easy way to do that. I have found a (complicated) way to do it, which is all but obvious to newcomers. Here is how: . Using the layer icon at the top right of the map, I select Browse Map Data; . I select the object I want to share (which is not always possible; sometimes it is hidden behind a residential area or similar); . I click on Details . On the resulting page, I click on View way on larger map . I get an URL similar to this that I can share: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=225637513 Fifth point: routing. Why is there absolutely no routing implemented on the main OpenStreetMap website? This is I concede a naïve question, as it might be simply because of limited server resources. Once we have our new servers, is this something we want to implement, as a community? I really like the OpenStreetMap project, and I dream to be able to use it as a primary map instead of Google Maps. I feel resolving these issues would bring me many steps closer to making that dream come true. What do you all think? Do you also have showstoppers that prevent you to use OpenStreetMap as your primary and daily map? Guillaume ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars...
I just had a visit to the Winners store here in Fredericton and they had several generic suction cup mounts that can be used in a car for phones or GPS. The price was about $10. I also found and bought a handlebar mount for my bicycle and gave it a test last night. I drove off the curb several times and my eTrex 20 stayed in place. I added a pair of elastic bands and a I looped the lanyard around the mount in case the GPS does slip out. Winners sells new, surplus, and overstock merchandise from other retailers. They mainly sell clothing, shoes, and house ware but you can also find phone and GPS accessories like the car and bicycle mounts I mentioned above. Bernie. -Original Message- From: Colin McGregor [mailto:colin.mc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2013-06-26 3:31 PM To: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars... On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting thought. What sort of fabric (I am thinking that some fabrics would make things worse (silk? polyester?))? How large? Also, how well does it work? It works brilliantly. It's Mom-made, so, of course, it's perfect. :) Always the case :-) . The non-skid portion is, I think, the same stuff used to keep your carpet from slipping. The rest of the fabric is just decorative, so mine has a map theme. I've asked Mom if she would consider making another that I could give away. If so, I won't have it for a few weeks, at least. Long, strange story, but I have a sewing machine (old, and simple, but very functional). Getting some small pieces of oddball fabric should not be hard in Toronto's garment district (near King and Spadina), some beans (or similar filler) and making four straight seams all seems easy enough. So, three ideas worth further investigation: - A GPS holder specifically designed for the eTrex 20 - A dollar store notepad or cell phone holder adapted to hold GPS - A bean-bag made to cradle the GPS. All good stuff, thanks all. Colin. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] G8 leaders sign open data charter of principles
This story came out last week while I was on vacation - http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/06/18/technology-g8-open-data-charter.html Is there an official OSM opinion on the compatibility of the Open Government Licence and OpenStreetMap? Here is a link to the licence on the data.gc.ca website - http://www.data.gc.ca/eng/open-government-licence-canada Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Manager - Spatial Data Infrastructure Land Information Infrastructure Unit, SNB Tel: 506-444-2077 Fax: 506-453-3898 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca www.snb.ca/geonbhttp://www.snb.ca/geonb%0d SNB - We make it happen... ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] New OpenStreetMap web editing option now available, call for funding
I have no problem in IE 8 or Chrome 26.0.1410.64 m -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Land Information Infrastructure Unit, SNB Tel: 506-444-2077 bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca From: Stewart Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2013-05-08 09:30 To: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New OpenStreetMap web editing option now available, call for funding On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@member.fsf.orgmailto:magic...@member.fsf.org wrote: http://blog.openstreetmap.org/2013/05/07/openstreetmap-launches-all-new-easy-map-editor-and-announces-funding-appeal/ All I get is a blank white screen with iD on Firefox 20.0.1 (aka current release). That might be a bit of a hurdle for new editors ... Stewart ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Sidewalks
I came across this when I was working on Map Roulette connectivity corrections - http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.98773840069771lon=-81.24551922082901zoom=18 I thought it was not advised to digitize sidewalks along urban streets - Are there any other opinions on this? -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng bernie.conn...@unb.camailto:bernie.conn...@unb.ca New Maryland, NB ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Environment Canada Forecast Region boundaries released
I also agree with Harald. The Environment Canada Forecast Region boundaries are useful but not as part of the OSM database. If you want to see the forecast regions on an OSM map then create a mash-up that pulls the forecast region boundaries and the forecasts from Environment Canada and display them over top of an OSM map. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Land Information Infrastructure Unit, SNB bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca From: Pierre Béland [mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Friday, 2013-01-25 14:46 To: Harald Kliems; David E. Nelson Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Environment Canada Forecast Region boundaries released I agree with Harald. The place for such data might be better placed in a thematic map were this layer of information is added over the OSM layer. Pierre De : Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.commailto:kli...@gmail.com À : David E. Nelson denelso...@yahoo.camailto:denelso...@yahoo.ca Cc : talk-ca@openstreetmap.orgmailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org talk-ca@openstreetmap.orgmailto:talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 25 janvier 2013 13h30 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Environment Canada Forecast Region boundaries released Hi David: May I ask why you think it's a good idea to add these to the OSM database? I'm rather skeptical of imports of features that we have no way of verifying on the ground (or otherwise). Yes, there are exceptions to this rule, like municipal boundaries, but still. It's great that Environment Canada is releasing this data but I'm not sure if there's much value in adding it to OSM. Cheers, Harald. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 1:09 PM, David E. Nelson denelso...@yahoo.camailto:denelso...@yahoo.ca wrote: http://dd.weatheroffice.gc.ca/meteocode/geodata/ All we need to do is have it released under OSM's licence, and then we can add the boundaries to OSM. - David E. Nelson ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.orgmailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.orgmailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Fredericton WMS Offset
Nicholas, I have noticed your work adding numerous building footprints in the Fredericton area. It's great to see somebody taking on this large task. It has been my experience that the older Bing imagery was better aligned than the current Bing imagery in the Fredericton area. I have been mapping in the Fredericton area since 2007 and the older Bing imagery aligned nicely with my GPS traces. It is best to align the new Bing Imagery with OSM streets and GPS traces. The misalignment of the Bing imagery varies across the Fredericton area so I would readjust the alignment of the Bing Imagery as you move to new neighborhoods. It is my practice to always adjust the Bing Imagery each time I start a new Potlatch 2 session and readjust when I move to new areas of the Fredericton region. This map I built at arcgis.com may help shed some light on the alignment issue. http://www.arcgis.com/apps/Compare/Configure/index.html?appid=c0f0ca089e23457082e997dceea0061b Cheers, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng bernie.conn...@unb.camailto:bernie.conn...@unb.ca New Maryland, NB From: nicholas ingalls [mailto:nicholas.inga...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 2013-01-01 19:23 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Fredericton WMS Offset Hello all, I've been recently drawing all of the buildings in Fredericton in preparation for going around and collecting the addresses. I'd noticed that all the buildings in Fredericton were offset. Naturally I assumed that the original mappers in Fredericton had done this offset on purpose. I recently tested this against GPS traces and found that the offset was incorrect based on the traces I collected. I'm now assuming that this data was traced from the old Yahoo imagery and current users continue to offset the Bing WMS to match the data traced from the Yahoo imagery. I am proposing that we shift the data back to match the Bing WMS and the gps traces. Does anyone else from the Fredericton area have any comments, or can explain the offset? Cheers, ingalls ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Fredericton WMS Offset
If you want to check the accuracy of your GPX files in New Brunswick you can drag and drop them on this map I created at ArcGIS.com: http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=71d0cc7deebd4b359a14ea140d63d6f4 As you zoom in the property lines and civic addresses will be added to the air photo map. All of this data is published the government of New Brunswick (aka me and my co-workers). The accuracy of this data should exceed the accuracy of the consumer grade GPS receiver. You can read more about adding GPX files to this map in the ArcGIS.com help pages: http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/arcgisonline/#/About_CSV_TXT_and_GPX_files/010q008v00/ In the Fredericton we are displaying the 2008 air photos captured by the City of Fredericton. They are not as current as the Bing Imagery in Potlatch but the alignment is excellent. The City of Fredericton acquired new imagery in 2012 and we will be updating this map as soon as we have the time and resources (some time in 2013). Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Land Information Infrastructure Unit, SNB bernie.conn...@snb.ca -Original Message- From: Andrew Buck [mailto:andrew.r.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2013-01-02 15:59 To: nicholas ingalls Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fredericton WMS Offset Hi, I am not from the area, but I did want to post my 2 cents about this issue. Your idea of how the offset got started sounds correct. I would caution you though that GPS traces can be offset, too, due to atmospheric effects. To really get a good trace with no offset you need to do a few traces on different days of the same road (or path is better since it is narrow) and through an area with few buildings around as these can cause offsets, too. Other than those issues, if you trust your traces then I see no reason not to fix the offset, but as I said make sure your traces are good first. -AndrewBuck ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Canadienne ou américaine, cette île?
Here is my 2 cents worth on the international maritime boundary issue in the Gulf of Maine: · The Canadian Coast Guard has operated navigational aids on Machias Seal Island for a very long time · I heard in the past that a US citizen in Maine holds a deed to Machias Seal Island – but that does not dictate sovereignty – if that were the case Canada would have sovereignty over many condos and vacation homes in Florida ;) · As a GIS manager working in the government of New Brunswick I always showed Machias Seal Island as being part of New Brunswick when I produced maps. · The Province of New Brunswick Included Machias Seal Island in several map products it has produced over the past few decades. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng bernie.conn...@unb.camailto:bernie.conn...@unb.ca New Maryland, NB From: Bruno Remy [mailto:bremy.qc...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 2012-12-23 17:20 To: Harald Kliems Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canadienne ou américaine, cette île? Good news : we're up-to-date. Let's stay tuned and follow what both gov. will decide! ;-) Bruno Remy Le 2012-12-23 16:15, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.commailto:kli...@gmail.com a écrit : I saw the coverage in the Gazette this morning and checked the border. We indeed have border=disputed in the database, and it has been like that for quite some time. Nominatim will return the island twice, one with USA, one with Canada as the country. Harald. On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.commailto:bremy.qc...@gmail.com wrote: (english message will follow) À suivre de près: La Presse souligne un débat Géopolitique aux frontières du Maine(US) et du Nouveau-Brunswick: Le temps pour nous de vérifier la frontiète administrative ici! -- Please follow this: LaPresse published a geo-politic debate on administrative bondaries beetween Maine(US) and New-Brunswick(CA). Time for us to check out the administrative bondaries around here! http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/politique/201212/23/01-4606481-canadienne-ou-americaine-cette-ile.php Bruno Remy ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.orgmailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x199DC50F ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy
Different models of GPSr have different types of antennas. The two most common types that I am aware of are: 1. Patch antenna (e.g. Garmin eTrex models). The patch antenna in the eTrex models gets its best reception when the LCD screen is parallel to the ground. 2. Quadrifilar antenna or Quad Helix antenna (e.g. Garmin 62 models). The Quadrifilar antenna in the 62 models gets its best reception when the LCD screen is perpendicular to the ground. If you have a GPSr you can easily test which type of antenna you have. Go outside and turn on your device and then display the satellite page that shows the bar graph of the signal strength for each satellite that is being tracked. Wait until you are tracking several satellites. Now move your GPSr from a horizontal position to a vertical position and watch what happens to the bar graph. In testing I did between 2003 and 2007 it was quite easy to see the bars shrink or grow depending on which way you held your GPSr. In a smart phone the GPSr may share an antenna with the cellular radio or Bluetooth radio. The antenna design is most likely NOT optimized for GPS reception. In other words you should not expect the GPSr in a smartphone to perform as well as a dedicated GPSr device. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Land Information Infrastructure Unit, SNB bernie.conn...@snb.ca -Original Message- From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 2012-11-19 11:44 To: Tom Taylor Cc: Connors, Bernie (SNB); talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy Other things you could do: check if the Canvec data has been moved after being imported. As I've said, Bing imagery can be improperly aligned, but not everybody is aware of that. So it's possible that a well-meaning mapper has moved the Canvec data to match the imagery. Did you check your GPS devices accuracy reading? While they shouldn't be taken too literally, they do give some indication of what's going on (IIRC Garmin devices unfortunately do not write the accuracy reading into the GPX file). You could also try to improve result by making sure the GPS is in an ideal position: This usually means: device parallel to the ground, with as little obstruction of the upward line of sight. Putting it on top of a backpack or your handlebar bag if you're riding a bike works best. Harald (who tends to get pretty good data with his Etrex Vista Hcx but not so much with his smartphone) On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Tom Taylor tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com wrote: I will do a resurvey in the way you suggest. It was really disappointing to find I couldn't trust my GPS at all (well, I did some mental adjustment of waypoints to place building entrances), and being off by a constant amount for 4 km certainly makes one suspicious. A bit to the north, my GPS survey of some footpaths behind a school matched Bing nicely. It would be really interesting to find some sort of disconnect in between. Je manquais de la courtoisie envers les francophones qui suivent cette liste. En sommaire, j'ai tracé une piste de longueur totale environ 4 km, mais l'a trouvé toujours environ 10 metres à l'ouest des entités déja presents sur la carte et les images Bing. Je vais faire un autre sondage pour mieux comprendre la situation. Tom Taylor On 19/11/2012 8:37 AM, Connors, Bernie (SNB) wrote: Tom, The transmission lines would not affect your GPS accuracy. I agree with Pierre that you could repeat the track and see if the two tracks are similar. Another thing you could do is identify several identifiable points in the Bing Imagery such as the intersection of two sidewalks, the corner of a sports field, etc. Go to those points and use your GPS to record a waypoint and use position averaging with about 3 minutes of recording to get a more accurate location and then compare those waypoints to the Bing imagery. Position the Bing imagery so they match up with your waypoints and then look at your GPS tracks top see how they line up with the Bing Imagery. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Land Information Infrastructure Unit, SNB bernie.conn...@snb.ca ... ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x199DC50F ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Primacy of GPS Traces (was Re: Internal CanVec conflicts)
Tom, Differences in GPS results has less to do with the GPS brand and more to do with how the GPS is used, the type of antenna, the satellite geometry, WAAS reception, etc. If you placed your consumer grade GPS receiver in the exact same location on two different dates you will get two different results. It is also important to know that the difference between (N 46 30 00, W 066 30 00) and (N 46 30 01, W 066 30 00) is 31 metres (that's just a difference of 1 second). A difference of 0.1 seconds is 3 metres. Most consumer grade GPS receivers only display latitude and longitude to the nearest tenth of a second (0.1) because displaying any additional digits would be beyond the accuracy of the receiver. Back in 2003 I did quite a bit of testing with a Garmin GPS 76 and a Garmin 12XL at a high precision control monument. Every measurement was different. Best regards, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Land Information Infrastructure Unit, SNB bernie.conn...@snb.ca -Original Message- From: Tom Taylor [mailto:tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 2012-11-15 09:39 To: Harald Kliems Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Primacy of GPS Traces (was Re: Internal CanVec conflicts) As a geocacher, I'm unhappily aware that different brands of GPS give different results, with differences in the order of 10 meters for an individual point. I suppose a track should be better, since there is an internal consistency check, though not if the difference is due to systemic causes. As it happens, in this case I had my own GPS trace to work with, and it aligned reasonably well with the Bing image of the path I was following. One thing I'm not sure of: were my GPS traces uploaded with the edits, or did I have to do something special to upload them? On 15/11/2012 8:20 AM, Harald Kliems wrote: Hi Tom: welcome to OSM and congratulations on your first edits! Yes, it sounds like you did the right thing. One thing to look out for: Bing images are not always aligned 100% -- they can be offset by several meters. Usually this is not a problem but if there are any GPS traces available in your area you (most likely to be found along major roads) you can use those to make sure that the imagery is not off. In JOSM you get the GPS traces by checking the Raw GPS data box in the Download window. Happy editing, Harald. ... ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Proposed import: Service New Brunswick address data
J.P., Service New Brunswick (SNB) has started a project to create the New Brunswick Road Network (NBRN). The NBRN will actually be produced through the Department of Public Safety and it's agency - Ambulance New Brunswick. SNB will provide some guidance, QC, and funding. I mention the NBRN project because the NBRN data will include block-face addressing on the road segments. Is it possible that the NBRN data will be a better data source for addressing in OSM instead of the civic address points? I don't know the answer but I hope this information will be helpful. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Land Information Infrastructure Unit, SNB bernie.conn...@snb.ca -Original Message- From: webmas...@the506.com [mailto:webmas...@the506.com] Sent: Thursday, 2012-06-21 14:51 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Proposed import: Service New Brunswick address data Hello...long time reader, first time poster. You may know me as the one who did (sometimes botched) the bulk of Canvec imports in New Brunswick. That job was completed last week. As you may be aware, Canvec does not include road name or addressing data in New Brunswick. I have generally been using a combination of the StatsCan and Service New Brunswick databases to add road names by hand. It was a long and arduous process that took over a year, but it's finished. Service New Brunswick maintains a publicly-available geocoded database of civic address points in the province (http://www.snb.ca/gdam-igec/e/2900e_1f_i.asp), and their license (http://www.snb.ca/gdam-igec/e/2900e_1e_v.asp) is compatible with OSM. My experience is that the database is very accurate in urban areas, but there are still a lot of gaps in rural areas. Any records that do not currently have a civic number attached will not be imported, and duplicate addresses will be ignored. There are currently very few addresses in NB in the OSM database. They are mostly in downtown Fredericton and uptown Saint John, and those areas will be checked by hand to avoid duplicates. In the rest of the province, an attempt will be made to merge the data with existing ways whenever possible. Each point would have the following tags: addr:housenumber= addr:street= addr:city= addr:province=NB addr:country=CA addr:source=SNB addr:SNBid=unique ID from the SNB database The plan is to break up the import by county, with the smaller less populous counties done first to work out the kinks and check for integrity with existing OSM data. Imports would be made from the 506imports account. Any comments? J.P. Kirby (the506) ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Re : CBC English; no - françias; oui
The video of the French news item on OSM was really well done although I could not understand a word of the Radio Canada reporter or the news anchor. It would be really great if we could get a link to an English version of this story. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Tuesday, 2012-05-01 11:49 To: Pierre Béland Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Re : CBC English; no - françias; oui 2012/5/1 Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr: Yesterday night, the french Radio-Canada Telejournal had a OSM topo with an interview with John Robb. There is only a link to the complete bulletin http://www.radio-canada.ca/audio-video/pop.shtml#urlMedia=http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/2012/CBFT/2012-04-30_22_00_00_tj22h_4494_800.asx To see the OSM topo, move the cursor to 28:05 min. Dear Pierre, That's awesome! Thank you for the link. There were some shots of Steve Singer, mapping, as well as many Toronto regulars at Mappy Hour, right at the end of the spot. The next Toronto Mappy Hour is next Monday, 07 May 2012, where you can meet the famous Steve Singer, and perhaps purchase an autograph. :-) http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Toronto/ French-speaking mappers: Please consider holding local Mappy Hours / Coffee Klatches / Meetups to help curious newcomers who were intrigued by the CBC spots. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] More Digital Globe content coming to Bing Maps
http://ow.ly/aBMeA Microsoft has signed a new deal with satellite operator Digital Globe for more high-resolution earth imagery for Bing Maps. This is good news for OSM users like me who like to trace satellite imagery and combine it with my local knowledge. Does anybody know if there is a way to track or identify new imagery in Bing Maps? Thanks, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] geocoder.ca sued by Canada Post
Here is an outrageous story. A tiny little website called geocoder.ca is being sued by Canada Post. Geocoder.ca has created a crowd-sourced database of postal codes that is distributed for free under the Open Database License (ODbL). Canada Post is suing to have the data taken down and for lost revenue. Ervin Ruci is the sole operator and owner of geocoder.ca. Ervin has indicated that his free postal code data is used by OSM. For more info and to donate to geocoder.ca's defense please visit - http://geocoder.ca/?sued=1 Please help support open data! Thanks, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Killarney Lake, Fredericton, NB
Hi, Killarney Lake straddles the boundary of two Canvec tiles. The Canvec imports were completed by another user. Quite a while ago I merged the two lake polygons to form one single polygon. Everything looks fine in Potlatch but it does not render as a lake: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.0162889957428lon=-66.62632137537zoom=17 Can somebody explain to me what I did wrong? Thanks, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Illegal mapping in China
Check out this story and be careful with your GPS when you visit China: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-03/07/content_14773071.htm It seems to me that just recording a track log in China could get you a hefty fine. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Manager - Spatial Data Infrastructure Land Information Secretariat Service New Brunswick Tel: 506-444-2077 Fax: 506-453-3898 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Intro and a question
Steve, I have had a look at your GPS trace and the OSM data in the Lac Le Jeune area with the Potlatch 2 editor. It appears to me that your GPS trace matches quite well with the Bing imagery in the area. Since you are familiar with the area you could accomplish more by simply digitizing from the Bing imagery and supplementing with GPS traces when necessary. I would trust your GPS trace to be more accurate than the CanVec data in the area. It is really up to you to decide if you want to reposition existing data or delete it and digitize new features. I find that sometimes the CanVec data has many nodes and it is time consuming to reposition each node. The CanVec data is using the tag highway = footway where it appears that it is suitable for vehicles. I suggest highway = track is more appropriate. It looks like another user has already digitized some highway = track in this area and created some duplicate ways such as this one: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SRW/traces/1187039 With your local knowledge it should be easy to identify these duplicate ways and remove the less accurate data. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca -Original Message- From: Steve Roy [mailto:st...@ssni.ca] Sent: Thursday, 2012-03-01 14:14 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Intro and a question Hi I thought I'd introduce myself and also ask a couple of questions. I live in New Westminster BC and spend a lot of time in the Lac Le Jeune area as we have a family cabin there. I want to start adding data in the Lac Le Jeune area that I collect with my GPS when out hiking, biking, 4x4ing, sledding etc. There are numerous trails and roads in the area that aren't on OSM. I have managed to add a couple of forestry roads so far but want to know the best way to combine my edits with current roads and tracks on the map.There are parts of existing roads and tracks shown on the map and they are from NRCan-CanVec-7.0.Some match with my GPS track, others are off by quite a few meters. Should I: -Leave the existing NRCandata as is and add my data (i.e. my track lays over the NRCan track) -Combine the two and move the nodes of the NRCan? -Or leave the existing NRCan track as-is and join bits of my track to nodes on the NRCan data? This is the area where I want to add tracks and trails: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.4798lon=-120.4541zoom=14layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.4798lon=-120.4541zoom=14layers=M This is a GPS trace I have uploaded: www.openstreetmap.org/user/SRW/traces/1187039 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SRW/traces/1187039 Thanks Steve -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands
If the Aboriginal lands are easily available from another source (GeoBase) and including them in Canvec.osm is going to make the data more complex I think the aboriginal lands should be excluded from Canvec.osm. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: Bégin, Daniel [mailto:daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, 2012-02-14 09:05 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands Bonjour All, Paul propose not to include aboriginal lands in the next Canvec.osm release. I would like to have more feedback from the community before excluding it :-) Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: February 13, 2012 18:55 To: Bégin, Daniel Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands Then I don't think they should be included in canvec.osm -Original Message- From: Bégin, Daniel [mailto:daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 6:04 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands Bonjour again Paul, An example is not yet available but yes, it will form closed area split like large lake. That is a limitation of the Canvec.osm product for the moment :-( Daniel -Original Message- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: February 13, 2012 05:35 To: Bégin, Daniel; 'Tyler Gunn'; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands Does this mean that they would form closed areas split like large lakes are? If so, this makes them unsuitable for importing into OSM without significant work. Can we see an example area so that we know what you are proposing? -Original Message- From: Bégin, Daniel [mailto:daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 1:54 PM To: Tyler Gunn; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands Bonjour Tyler, Aboriginal Lands are already available in shape and gml format on GeoBase website. It provides a dataset for the entire country. The Canvec product is produced on 50K map sheet coverage. The Aboriginal Lands, if provided through Canvec.osm product, will complied to the 50K map sheet coverage. Best regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Tyler Gunn [mailto:ty...@egunn.com] Sent: February 9, 2012 16:38 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands It is possible to include Aboriginal Lands in the next release of Canvec.osm. However, I'm trying to find a consensus in the community concerning the tags/values to use? I've found some links to... - boundary=administrative; admin_level =aboriginal_land - boundary=administrative; admin_level =2 to 4 - boundary=protected_area; protect_class=24 I'm curious how this information would be represented given the distribution of CanVec data in a tiled format? Given that administrative boundaries tend to span larger areas, I don't know if it would make sense to split these at tile boundaries. Were you thinking to provide these boundaries in a separate file of sorts? How these boundaries are represented should perhaps be driven from where they fit into the overall picture in terms of how Canada is split up? When I think of things like the country, provinces, territories, cities/towns/etc, these all fit nicely into the boundary=administrative and admin_level hierarchy. We have separate boundary types for provincial parks, national parks, etc, and I'd probably interpret the aboriginal lands the same way. So I think its entirely reasonable to represent these as: boundary=aboriginal_land Tyler ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands
For tagging Aboriginal lands (reserves) I agree with using boundary=aboriginal_land. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: Tyler Gunn [mailto:ty...@egunn.com] Sent: Thursday, 2012-02-09 17:38 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Aboriginal Lands It is possible to include Aboriginal Lands in the next release of Canvec.osm. However, I'm trying to find a consensus in the community concerning the tags/values to use? I've found some links to. - boundary=administrative; admin_level =aboriginal_land - boundary=administrative; admin_level =2 to 4 - boundary=protected_area; protect_class=24 I'm curious how this information would be represented given the distribution of CanVec data in a tiled format? Given that administrative boundaries tend to span larger areas, I don't know if it would make sense to split these at tile boundaries. Were you thinking to provide these boundaries in a separate file of sorts? How these boundaries are represented should perhaps be driven from where they fit into the overall picture in terms of how Canada is split up? When I think of things like the country, provinces, territories, cities/towns/etc, these all fit nicely into the boundary=administrative and admin_level hierarchy. We have separate boundary types for provincial parks, national parks, etc, and I'd probably interpret the aboriginal lands the same way. So I think its entirely reasonable to represent these as: boundary=aboriginal_land Tyler ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] License upgrade readiness - contact and remapping
Richard, I am planning to contact some non-agreeing OSM users in my area. How easy is it for a non-agreeing OSM user to change to the new CT/ODbL? Will they be prompted to agree when they login to OSM? Or is there another link(s) that I should give them? Thanks, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2012-01-11 16:44 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] License upgrade readiness - contact and remapping Dear Canadian OpenStreetMap contributors, The upcoming move to the Open Database License means that a small number of users have chosen for their contributions not to continue within OSM. Since we want OSM to remain the best map in the world, we can remap the affected areas now, so that little difference is noticeable on changeover day. The License Working Group would now like to formally urge Canadian mappers to look at your local mapping areas, contact anyone who still might agree and then remap. This is a pilot project to engage global mappers on a country-by-country basis. Critical mass for the change-over has certainly been achieved. On a global basis, over 96.8% of nodes and 96.3% of highways [1] are by folks who have accepted the new terms. However, we still have globally 36 million nodes that may not survive the license change and 4.2 million problematic ways where some or all value will be lost [2]. This is still a large number, particularly if they are in your local mapping area, and we would like to reduce it. In Canada, the situation is slightly better than the global average, with 98.3% of nodes and 96.7% of highways coming from folks who have accepted the new terms. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Remapping is a specific up-to-date resource on remapping and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Help_preparing_for_the_license_change give broader background information. Frederik Ramm's excellent License Change View on OSM Inspector [4] helps pin point problematic areas and users who have not yet agreed to the license upgrade and new contributor terms. There are license-status tools for both JOSM and Potlatch2, to aid you in mapping. I have found the following approach helpful in cleaning Cambridge and starting to clean Toronto. Contact mappers with problematic edits in my area and ask them to consider agreeing to CT/ODbL. Remap the objects effected by accounts that do not then agree. I'm not contacting every mapper with problematic edits. A very small number of OSM accounts have already declined CT/ODbL for their own reasons. Many more contributors have not replied either because they have lost interest or contact with the OSM community. Of those, I've found that many have responded positively by agreeing with CT/ODbL. Some have even started mapping again after a long hiatus. I see no pattern in who agrees; some are accounts with only a few edits and others with many edits over months or years. I've also been remapping objects effected by declined or non-responsive accounts. Often, this remapping can be done to high quality from a combination of aerial imagery and canvec data. I've gone out to resurvey some areas as well. I've been able to clean Cambridge of non-compatible edits in the course of just a few editing sessions with only small changes in my mapping techniques. 1) I look at the license status of the area in the course of my normal mapping. While mapping, I make sure to clean problematic objects rather than just editing them. Every mapper should be aware of the license status of objects while mapping. If you ignore this, you might be making improvements that will be discarded in the license change. 2) By contacting a few non-responsive mappers, many objects have cleaned themselves when those mappers agree. This is a really good thing, especially when they become active mappers again! 3) Sometimes, I take a few extra minutes to clean some other surrounding objects. 4) Sometimes, I plan and resurvey an area to clean it. Please join me and many of the other mappers who are taking an interest in making the license upgrade as smooth as possible. As with any mapping, looking at the map from a new perspective is interesting and fun. And every improvement that we make now, before the cutover date will be made with the care and attention that local mappers bring to every edit. Below, I have included links to several Canadian cities in OSMI. Sorry that the links are so long. :-) Best regards. Richard [1] http://odbl.poole.ch/ [2] Nodes Created http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/munin.html [3] http://odbl.poole.ch/canada-20111208-20120111-poly.html [4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Remapping/License_Change_View_on_OSM_Inspector Toronto
Re: [Talk-ca] License upgrade readiness - contact and remapping
Harald, Thanks for the suggestion. But what can we do if a user is no longer using OSM? If they are not using OSM they will not see the message that we send to their OSM Inbox. I presume there is nothing we can do unless we have the time to do a little detective work and try to find an alternate email address for the mapper. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: Harald Kliems [mailto:harald.kli...@mail.mcgill.ca] Sent: Thursday, 2012-01-12 11:36 To: Connors, Bernie (SNB); 'Richard Weait'; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] License upgrade readiness - contact and remapping Hi Bernie, here's what I've used as a template. Worked with one mapper, didn't work (i.e. no response) with five others. Best, Harald. -%-- Dear xxx, I'm a mapper from Montreal and while checking my area for potential problems with the upcoming license change, I've noticed that you have made a lot of edits here in Quebec, but haven't agreed to the new license. Of course, there are good reasons to not agree, but in case you just have forgotten or not have had the time yet to agree I wanted to send you a reminder and prevent the loss of all your data. More information on the license change can be found here http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/We_Are_Changing_The_License Cheers, Harald. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Amateur Radio Maps...
I am not sure if this will help but Natural Resources Canada provides some free online tools for converting lat, lon to UTM: http://www.geod.nrcan.gc.ca/tools-outils/index_e.php -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: Colin McGregor [mailto:colin.mc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 2011-12-13 16:41 To: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Amateur Radio Maps... On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Stewart C. Russell scr...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone's confused about what these maps would look like, I have some examples here: http://glaikit.org/2011/12/11/not-really-getting-the-azimuthal-equidistant-projection-right/ They were made with the not-exactly free AZ_PROJ, a utility written entirely in PostScript. Okay, I have a pert of the answer here, the May and June 1979 issues of Byte Magazine, with a two part article on map making. So, I have the source code (written in BASIC, sigh) that will take a latitude / longitude and turn that into an X / Y point to be plotted. In other words I can now look at the math and logic of what needs be be done in the transformation... For a great (but non-free) example of a grey line (day/night) map, see http://pskreporter.info Cheers Stewart On 2011-12-12, at 9:23, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Last Saturday I was at a party co-hosted by Richard Weait (thanks), where the topic of maps for amateur radio use came up. A topic that has been of interest to me is amateur radio and disaster response. So, I am looking for software that will generate two maps from Open Street Map data: - An azimuthal equidistant projection map for any arbitrary latitude / longitude - A day and night map (ie: what parts of the world are CURRENTLY in sunshine / darkness) So, what makes the requirement for the above a little tough? I want the software to be under the GPL (or some other open license) so it can be redistributed without issue. I want it for Linux (so the OS to support the application can also be redistributed without issue). I want the application to run stand-alone (so if there is a problem with the internet connection I don't want the application to suddenly become useless). The data for this can not be more than a few MB at most (but then this shouldn't be an issue, given that road, rail, land use data is irrelevant for these apps, all that is needed is continental outlines, MAJOR lakes, rivers, islands and cities). So, why the interest in these maps? Many amateur radio antenna are directional (doing a better job of receiving (or transmitting) a signal in one particular direction). With an azimuthal equidistant projection map done for your location, you can draw a line from the center of the map to the location you are interested in and that will instantly tell you the direction to adjust your directional antenna. This is static map, as in you generate the map once for a given latitude / longitude you are effectively done. High frequency radio signals can refract off the ionosphere allowing very long range communications with low power transmitters. What frequencies refract well depends on a number factors, including sunshine / darkness. So knowing that the place you want to talk to is in darkness is useful. So, a day night map would have to be dynamic, being updated say once per minute ... Anyone with ideas as to where I could / should turn for the above? Thanks. Colin McGregor VE3ZAA ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] import complaints
Richard, Do you have a link to Import Guidelines that are specific to Canvec data? Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Friday, 2011-12-02 13:23 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] import complaints dear all, I've heard some LOUD complaints about imports in Canada. Please be sure to follow the import guidelines, including special import accounts, and please be sure to check your work and fix errors. Latest issue appears to be a large broken water polygon. Best regards, Richard ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] City of Fredericton Open Data website
There has not been an announcement on this yet but the website is now available: http://www.fredericton.ca/en/citygovernment/DataMain.asp Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] City of Fredericton Open Data website
Paul, Richard Weait also picked up on the license issues with the City of Fredericton's Open Data website. We have provided the City of Fredericton with some feedback, suggestions, and offers of assistance. An initial response from the City has indicated that they will review the issues. Let's hope they make some changes. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Monday, 2011-09-26 15:27 To: Connors, Bernie (SNB); 'Talk-CA OpenStreetMap' Subject: RE: [Talk-ca] City of Fredericton Open Data website A quick reading of the terms of use at http://www.fredericton.ca/en/citygovernment/TermsOfUse.asp seems to show that they suffer from the same problems as the Vancouver terms of use and are non-open. http://weait.com/content/unintended-restrictions has an analysis of them. This is not just a problem for OSM, but for anyone who does due diligence and reads the license. The license also appears to be incompatible with the Vancouver license. From: Connors, Bernie (SNB) [mailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 7:46 AM To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] City of Fredericton Open Data website There has not been an announcement on this yet but the website is now available: http://www.fredericton.ca/en/citygovernment/DataMain.asp Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.camailto:bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] FW: [OSGeo-Announce] Board Election Results
Congratulations to Jeff McKenna for being voted into the OSGeo Board of Directors. Hip, Hip, Hooray! -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: announce-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:announce-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam Sent: Friday, 2011-09-09 01:03 To: annou...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Announce] Board Election Results Here are the final results from the voting for the open seats of the OSGeo Board of Directors. There were five seats open and they have been filled by, in alphabetical order: * Peter Batty * Jo Cook * Michael Gerlek * Mark Lucas * Jeff McKenna Thanks to everyone for running, all candidates received good support ( 20 votes each). The voting participation was 89% and there were no tie scores to arbitrate. Thank you to all who voted!! Your complete resulting Board is: * Peter Batty * Arnulf Christl * Jo Cook * Michael Gerlek * Mark Lucas * Jeff McKenna * Daniel Morissette * Tim Schaub * Frank Warmerdam http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Election_2011_Results ___ Announce mailing list annou...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/announce ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Slow OSM tiles
Is it just me or is the OSM tile server running really slow? -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Manager - Spatial Data Infrastructure Land Information Secretariat Service New Brunswick Tel: 506-444-2077 Fax: 506-453-3898 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Slow OSM tiles
I am not editing. I am just browsing the map to see if my recent edits have been rendered. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Friday, 2011-09-02 11:07 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Slow OSM tiles On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote: Is it just me or is the OSM tile server running really slow? What are you doing? Just editing? ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Problem uploading GPX files
Is anybody else having trouble uploading GPX files to OSM? Here is a GPX file that I recorded on Saturday with most of the track points deleted. When I attempt to upload this trace to OSM it appears to work and I can see the PENDING status of my trace but if I wait a few minutes and refresh the page it is no longer in the list of my traces. I only have one other trace on the OSM website. I can open and view this GPX file in Google Earth but I can't get it to upload to OSM. ?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'? gpx version='1.1' creator='NOGAGO Outdoor (http://www.nogago.com)' xmlns='http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1' xmlns:rmc='urn:net:trekbuddy:1.0:nmea:rmc' trk trkseg /trksegtrkseg trkpt lat='46.243676' lon='-60.463334'timeNI489T10:48:20Z/timeele75.0/elehdop2.46/hdopvdop3.4/vdop/trkpt trkpt lat='46.243645' lon='-60.463349'timeNI489T10:48:22Z/timeele74.0/elehdop2.46/hdopvdop3.29/vdop/trkpt trkpt lat='46.243605' lon='-60.463437'timeNI489T10:48:23Z/timeele73.0/elehdop2.35/hdopvdop3.15/vdop/trkpt trkpt lat='46.243563' lon='-60.46362'timeNI489T10:48:26Z/timeele73.0/elehdop2.1/hdopvdop3.04/vdop/trkpt trkpt lat='46.243451' lon='-60.46416'timeNI489T10:48:29Z/timeele74.0/elehdop1.88/hdopvdop3.04/vdop/trkpt . trkpt lat='46.329513' lon='-60.419341'timeNI149T11:14:48Z/timehdop2.35/hdopvdop2.68/vdop/trkpt trkpt lat='46.32959' lon='-60.419322'timeNI149T11:14:50Z/timehdop2.35/hdopvdop2.68/vdop/trkpt trkpt lat='46.329654' lon='-60.419331'timeNI149T11:14:52Z/timeele0.0/elehdop2.35/hdopvdop2.57/vdop/trkpt trkpt lat='46.329701' lon='-60.419372'timeNI149T11:14:54Z/timeele0.0/elehdop2.1/hdopvdop2.57/vdop/trkpt trkpt lat='46.329708' lon='-60.41953'timeNI149T11:14:58Z/timeele2.0/elehdop1.8/hdopvdop2.35/vdop/trkpt /trksegtrkseg /trkseg /trk /gpx Thanks. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] walking papers website having trouble??
I have been waiting 17 hours for a map to generate at walking-papers.org. Is anybody aware of problems?? http://walking-papers.org/print.php?id=qztkwgs3 Bernie. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Wooded area?
Yes I see it too at the higher zoom levels in the Fredericton area. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ From: Steven Brown [mailto:b27...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 2011-06-03 22:56 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Wooded area? Does anyone else see a wooded area covering Canada? I see a green background with little trees on the OSM layer. --- Steven ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] New Brunswick Road data
Déjà vu -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ From: Connors, Bernie (SNB) [mailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca] Sent: Thursday, 2011-06-02 13:28 To: 'Nakor Osm' Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New Brunswick Road data Nakor, New Brunswick does not currently have a road network that meets the National Road Network (NRN) standard. Any New Brunswick Road network data that you see in the CanVec files has been collected by NRCan. New Brunswick is currently trying to put together a program to create and maintain a road network. The goal is to have a program in place soon - data to come later. Sorry but I can't provide any dates. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca From: Nakor Osm [mailto:nakor@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 2011-06-02 13:01 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Railways duplicated in CanVec data I have also noticed that some tiles does not have all street names. For example the tile covering Pointe-a-la-Croix, QC and Campbellton, NB have all street names on QC side but only a few ones on NB side. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] New Brunswick Road data
Nakor, New Brunswick does not currently have a road network that meets the National Road Network (NRN) standard. Any New Brunswick Road network data that you see in the CanVec files has been collected by NRCan. New Brunswick is currently trying to put together a program to create and maintain a road network. The goal is to have a program in place soon - data to come later. Sorry but I can't provide any dates. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca From: Nakor Osm [mailto:nakor@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 2011-06-02 13:01 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Railways duplicated in CanVec data I have also noticed that some tiles does not have all street names. For example the tile covering Pointe-a-la-Croix, QC and Campbellton, NB have all street names on QC side but only a few ones on NB side. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] OSM slower than usual?
The OSM maps and website seem to be loading slower today and updates to the map appear to be taking longer to be rendered into tiles. Anybody else notice this? -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Problem with Nominatim in Fredericton, NB, Canada
Hello, I have noticed that many of my Nominatim search results for features in Fredericton, NB, Canada include “Washington”. For example, searching for “Fredericton, NB” at openstreetmap.org gives me the results “City Fredericton, Washington, New Brunswick, Canada, North Americahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-66.6537530518minlat=45.9546453857maxlon=-66.6337454224maxlat=45.9746492004”. The problem with these results is that “Washington” is not a county of New Brunswick. I am not aware of any administrative areas in NB named “Washington”. The Node for the City of Fredericton is: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ? -http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/204462923/5 osm version=0.6 generator=OpenStreetMap server -http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/204462923/5 node id=204462923 lat=45.9646491 lon=-66.6437529 changeset=7529491 user=berniejoconnors uid=27287 visible=true timestamp=2011-03-12T04:14:39Z version=5 tag k=name v=Fredericton / tag k=is_in:continent v=North America / tag k=name:ar v=فريدريكتون / tag k=is_in:country v=Canada / tag k=name:en v=Fredericton / tag k=is_in v=New Brunswick;Canada / tag k=place v=city / tag k=is_in:state v=New Brunswick / /node /osm Can somebody help me determine why communities in south-western New Brunswick are identified as being in “Washington County”? I suspect it is related to Washington County, Maine which is adjacent to the Maine-New Brunswick International boundary: Way: Washington County (24309532). I don’t feel I have enough experience to start messing with US county boundaries and International boundaries. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Tagging for streets on a military base
I am looking at the street tags for CFB Gagetown in Oromocto, New Brunswick. Currently all of the streets are tagged residential. Of course there are some military personnel that live on the base but the majority of the roads I am looking at are not residential: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.8424389362335lon=-66.4528870582581zoom=16 I have considered the following tags: service, minor, and tertiary but none of them seem appropriate. Any suggestions? -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging for streets on a military base
Richard, I looked at CFB Petawawa and CFB Greenwood. The streets amongst the large buildings at Petawawa are all tagged residential. In Greenwood the streets amongst the large buildings are tagged service - but at Greenwood the large buildings are all clustered along the edge of the airfield so the service tag makes more sense. I think your suggestion to use the unclassified tag is the best fit for streets on a military base. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Friday, 2011-04-15 11:51 To: Connors, Bernie (SNB) Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging for streets on a military base On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote: I am looking at the street tags for CFB Gagetown in Oromocto, New Brunswick. Currently all of the streets are tagged residential. Of course there are some military personnel that live on the base but the majority of the roads I am looking at are not residential: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.8424389362335lon=-66.4528870582581zoom=16 I have considered the following tags: service, minor, and tertiary but none of them seem appropriate. Any suggestions? highway=unclassified seems right. unclassified is a strange beast in OSM. it comes from the UK official road classification called unclassified, or something. Seems a little weird, but there we are. As a practical matter, I use unclassified for the following. - a shorthand for it's kind of like residential but without the houses - roads of the public road network that are least important but not residential. So, minor commercial/light-industrial area roads. - when the residential / non-residential mix in a mixed use area leans more towards non-residential. I don't have local context for the area you mention, so take my experience with a grain or two of salt. For similar large areas, I would consider residential in the residential areas. unclassified elsewhere. tertiary for those roads that are more important within the area and for entrance / exit roads. And highway=service; (possibly also with service=driveway) for those ways that aren't even roads in the area. Though leaving the driveways and parking areas for somebody else to map is fine too. ;-) And marking the access restrictions either at the gates, or for all roads probably makes sense. Best regards, Richard ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Can't login to OpenStreetMap
Is anybody else having a problem this morning? When I try to bring up the login page I get the following error from Chrome: SSL connection error Unable to make a secure connection to the server. This may be a problem with the server, or it may be requiring a client authentication certificate that you don't have. Error 107 (net::ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR): SSL protocol error. I also tried with IE8 and was not able to get to the login page. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Manager - Spatial Data Infrastructure Land Information Secretariat Service New Brunswick Tel: 506-444-2077 Fax: 506-453-3898 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Can't login to OpenStreetMap
I can login now. It must have been a temporary problem. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ From: Connors, Bernie (SNB) [mailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca] Sent: Thursday, 2011-04-14 12:21 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Can't login to OpenStreetMap Is anybody else having a problem this morning? When I try to bring up the login page I get the following error from Chrome: SSL connection error Unable to make a secure connection to the server. This may be a problem with the server, or it may be requiring a client authentication certificate that you don't have. Error 107 (net::ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR): SSL protocol error. I also tried with IE8 and was not able to get to the login page. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Manager - Spatial Data Infrastructure Land Information Secretariat Service New Brunswick Tel: 506-444-2077 Fax: 506-453-3898 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Bridge closed for repairs
What is the suggested method for tagging a bridge that will be closed for several months for repairs? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.9411549568176lon=-66.623797416687zoom=16 http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/news/news_release.2011.02.0199.html I was thinking it would be simple to add a barrier=block each end of the bridge http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dblock And also note=* with a description of the closure and the expected date for re-opening. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Manager - Spatial Data Infrastructure Land Information Secretariat Service New Brunswick Tel: 506-444-2077 Fax: 506-453-3898 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] OSM data growth in New Brunswick - Help.
Hello, I have been asked on short notice to give an OSM presentation to some government employees here in New Brunswick. I would like some data or graphics (or video) that shows the growth of OSM data in NB over the past 5 years. Can anybody help? My presentation is Thursday morning, March 17th. I am already aware of the 2008 video showing world wide OSM contributions and I'll use that if I can't get info specific for New Brunswick: http://vimeo.com/2598878 Thanks in advance, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Manager - Spatial Data Infrastructure Land Information Secretariat Service New Brunswick Tel: 506-444-2077 Fax: 506-453-3898 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] OSM data growth in New Brunswick - Help.
Richard, Thanks for the tip. I think Fredericton has been experiencing the most activity. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Tuesday, 2011-03-15 13:16 To: Connors, Bernie (SNB) Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] OSM data growth in New Brunswick - Help. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote: I have been asked on short notice to give an OSM presentation to some government employees here in New Brunswick. I would like some data or graphics (or video) that shows the growth of OSM data in NB over the past 5 years. Also. An animation of all of NB is likely to be so large that only gross features appear in the animation. Fredericton, or another city might be more interesting. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] OSM data growth in New Brunswick - Help.
Richard, Yes the projector we have is 1024x768. Thanks for your help. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Tuesday, 2011-03-15 13:11 To: Connors, Bernie (SNB) Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] OSM data growth in New Brunswick - Help. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote: Hello, I have been asked on short notice to give an OSM presentation to some government employees here in New Brunswick. I would like some data or graphics (or video) that shows the growth of OSM data in NB over the past 5 years. Can anybody help? My presentation is Thursday morning, March 17th. I am already aware of the 2008 video showing world wide OSM contributions and I'll use that if I can't get info specific for New Brunswick: http://vimeo.com/2598878 Dear Bernie, What resolution do you need? For example, if you will be using a 1024x768 projector, no use in having an HD animation. Also, here is an animation of part of Ontario for OSM over time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ40lOt8Txw Best regards, Richard ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping cut blocks in wooded areas
Bryan, I would have to agree with your argument. I have some knowledge of the forestry GIS that is used here in NB and it would be a daunting task to include cut blocks in the forest. There is more than enough OSM work in Canada just getting the road network built it would be counterproductive to spend a lot of time on forest cut blocks. Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ From: Bryan Crosby [mailto:azubr...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 2011-03-05 01:58 To: 'talk-ca' Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping cut blocks in wooded areas I would tag it as natural=wood as I don’t feel that there is any distinction between a 2-year old stand and a 250 year old stand in terms of being wood, or forest. They are merely different ages. Licensees maintain incredibly accurate and up-to-date maps that indicate the different openings and their respective stages of development. They have dedicated GIS guys that maintain these maps as fast as techies bring it in. I suppose, in theory, an OSM tag could be used to indicate the stage of opening development, but one would require the date of harvesting, the date of planting and the dates of the silviculture surveys to accurately assess the phase. Unless you are a forester you won’t have access to that information and would be guessing. I just feel that attempting to seriously map out such temporary features accurately goes way beyond the ability of OSM (at this point, at least). Bryan From: Samuel Longiaru [mailto:longi...@shaw.ca] Sent: March-04-11 9:43 PM To: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping cut blocks in wooded areas I very much see your point which is why I was asking for some direction. I guess it comes down to whether the map should reflect what we see at some given snapshot in time, or whether it is reflecting the overall landuse scheme. In short, while standing in the middle of a clear-cut, would it be more accurate that my map show that spot as wooded or not wooded? Sam L. -Original Message- From: Bryan Crosby azubr...@gmail.commailto:bryan%20crosby%20%3cazubr...@gmail.com%3e To: 'talk-ca' talk-ca@openstreetmap.orgmailto:'talk-ca'%20%3ctalk...@openstreetmap.org%3e Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping cut blocks in wooded areas Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:11:20 -0800 RE: cut-blocks As someone who has spent done time as a forest technician, I strongly advise against mapping forestry activity. Cut block spatial data changes daily and any images used to trace are out of date. There are literally tens of thousands of clear cuts in British Columbia alone and there is absolutely no way OSM mappers would be able to keep up with changes. Keep in mind that most clearcuts on crown land (and in some cases, private land) are temporary openings in various stages forest development. A 2 year old stand is just as much a forest as a 25 year old free-to-grow stand or a 250 year old stand of timber. I believe that mapping a privately held ‘Christmas’ tree farm would be pertinent, but these are radically different from commercial forestry openings. I would also advise extreme caution in using images to map forest development roads unless are working on a high traffic mainline. Many spur roads are in various stages of deactivation. It may look like a road from the outdated image, but it may have been completely deactivated and replanted. A site inspection is the only way to be sure. Bryan British Columbia From: Daniel Begin [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com] Sent: March-04-11 8:19 PM To: 'Samuel Longiaru'; 'talk-ca' Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping cut blocks in wooded areas Hi Samuel, About tagging forested areas, I would use landuse=forest only if it is obvious on the field that the area is managed/harvested, as for landuse=orchard or landuse=vineyard. We have a lot of Christmas tree plantations in the area and I map them as landuse=forest because it is obvious on the imagery and on the field. If it is difficult to determine if an area is under timber lease or not, because it looks the same, I would keep it natural=wood... About Cut blocks, I would map the hole they create that wooded area. If the area is replanted, then some OSM contributor will remove the hole you map in 10-20 years from now! Mapping the reality is the best we can do and because the reality changes over time, we can keep mapping !-) Daniel From: Samuel Longiaru [mailto:longi...@shaw.ca] Sent: March-04-11 21:45 To: talk-ca Subject: [Talk-ca] Mapping cut blocks in wooded areas Hi Everybody, I've been importing CanVec mostly south of Kamloops for the past several weeks and am going to take some time now to go back and bring stuff up to date. One question I have though is in regards to how to treat cut blocks in the wooded areas. I see according to the map features
[Talk-ca] First Fredericton Mappy Hour a success
The first FredOSM meetup was a success. We had two experienced OSM users and four beginners at the meeting. The gender split was 2 women and four men. The experienced users shared their knowledge and experience of OSM with the beginners and some demonstrations were shown on the use of the Potlatch 2 map editor and the JOSM map editor. We hope to see even more people at the next Mappy Hour meetup on March 21st - more details here: http://meetu.ps/FXhk. Please share this info with any friends, family, or colleagues in the Fredericton, NB area. Thanks, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Fredericton's First OSM Mappy Hour
I can't wait to find out how many OSM'ers will come to the first meeting: http://www.meetup.com/fredosm/events/16347497/ Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:00 PM The Garrison District Ale Househttp://www.meetup.com/fredosm/venue/909141/?eventId=16347497popup=true 426 Queen Street Fredericton, NB -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Oneway=yes on NHN imported streams
Would it be the water flow direction?? -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Paul Norman Sent: Saturday, 2011-01-08 23:58 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Oneway=yes on NHN imported streams I noticed that the GeoBase waterways have oneway=yes on them, but are not navigable so the one way access restrictions don't apply. I'm wondering, as well as some others on IRC, how these came to be tagged that way. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Amateur question about Mapnik Renderer
I recently added runways, taxiways, and buildings to the Fredericton International Airport: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.8723697066307lon=-66.5314221382141zoom=17 Why don't the taxiways display? When I go into edit mode I can see the taxiways but they aren't rendered by the Mapnik renderer. All of the other data I added in that session is rendered. Thanks, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] How do I add background imagery to Potlatch 2?
In Potlatch2 there is a Background imagery dialogue that appears to allow the addition of more imagery servers. You can find this dialogue at Background Edit Add. What are the types of servers that can be added? How do I add my own imagery to Potlatch2? TIA, Bernie. P.S. The list of servers that are currently available in the Background imagery dialogue are: http://hypercube.telascience.org/tiles/1.0.0/haiti-city/$z/$x/$y.jpg http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/dg_crisis/$z/$x/$y.jpg http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/geoeye/$z/$x/$y.jpg http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/$z/$x/$y.jpg http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/surrey/$z/$x/$y.png http://gibin.geog.ucl.ac.uk/~ollie/scotland/tiles/$z/$x/$y.jpg http://ooc.openstreetmap.org/npe/$z/$x/$y.png http://ooc.openstreetmap.org/os7/$z/$x/$y.png http://ooc.openstreetmap.org/os1/$z/$x/$y.png http://tiles.itoworld.com/os_locator/$z/$x/$y.png http://os.openstreetmap.org/sv/$z/$x/$y.png http://tah.openstreetmap.org/Tiles/tile/$z/$x/$y.png http://tile.openstreetmap.org/$z/$x/$y.png http://ecn.t0.tiles.virtualearth.net/tiles/a$quadkey.jpeg?g=587mkt=en-gbn=z Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Manager - Spatial Data Infrastructure Land Information Secretariat Service New Brunswick Tel: 506-444-2077 Fax: 506-453-3898 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Adding background image to Potlatch 2?
In Potlatch2 there is a Background imagery dialogue that appears to allow the addition of more imagery servers. You can find this dialogue at Background Edit Add. What are the types of servers that can be added? TIA, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Manager - Spatial Data Infrastructure Land Information Secretariat Service New Brunswick Tel: 506-444-2077 Fax: 506-453-3898 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [AtlanticCanada] OSGeo presentations at the Geomatics Atlantic conference, October 28-29, Fredericton, NB
Sam, The City of Fredericton has free municipal Wifi network. It was one of the first in the country - http://www.fred-ezone.ca/coverage.php Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Sam Vekemans Sent: Friday, 2010-07-23 00:07 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [AtlanticCanada] OSGeo presentations at the Geomatics Atlantic conference, October 28-29, Fredericton, NB a reminder for those on the east coast that abstracts are almost due. i have no idea if anyone has volunterred to share about openstreetmap. in other news, i would think that around that same last week in october would be a good time to have a osm-canada mapping event. it will be hosted whever there is free wifi and close for people to get to. im planning on making a trip out their in the fall, so it would be great to meet local mappers. the osgeo-atlantic cananada mailing list, will hopefully become the main secondary contact for osm. cheers, sam -- Forwarded message -- From: Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:19:20 -0300 Subject: Re: [AtlanticCanada] OSGeo presentations at the Geomatics Atlantic conference, October 28-29, Fredericton, NB To: AtlanticCanada-OSGeo atlanticcan...@lists.osgeo.org Don't forget everyone, the deadline for abstracts is July 30th! (note: 300 word abstracts are only required) -jeff -- Jeff McKenna MapServer Consulting and Training Services http://www.gatewaygeomatics.com/ ___ AtlanticCanada mailing list atlanticcan...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/atlanticcanada -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [Talk-us] SOTM US Schedule Up
Is there going to be a SOTM Canada? With all the activity around the CanVec data I think we are ripe for a meeting. I am fairly new to this list and the only OSM editing I have done is with Potlatch and Mapzen tracing the Yahoo Imagery. I am out of my league when it comes to JOSM and conflating the data from CanVec, Yahoo, GPS traces, GeoBase, etc. A SOTM Canada meeting could help to bring clarity to the issues surrounding the new CanVec data for neophytes like myself. Just my $0.02 Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Weait Sent: Tuesday, 2010-07-20 13:06 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [Talk-us] SOTM US Schedule Up Hi All , If you missed SotM in Girona, you might enjoy SotM-US in Atlanta next month. Book now. It's approaching quickly. -- Forwarded message -- Hi All, The schedule for SOTM US is up. http://www.sotm.us/?page_id=2 We have all sorts of exciting things planned. There are talks on everything from OSM in Government to Education, technical talks like MongOSM and community talks such as How to Run a Large Scale Mapping Party. I'm also excited to report that Steve Coast is going to kick things off as our keynote. Check it out and hope to see you there! -Kate ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] OSM presentation at Geomatics Atlantic conference, October 28-29, Fredericton, NB
Hello, I am helping to organize the 2010 Geomatics Atlantic conference and I would *REALLY* like to see a presentation on OpenStreetMap at the conference. Anyone interested? The call for papers can be found here: http://www.geomaticsatlantic.com/call-for-papers Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Manager - Spatial Data Infrastructure Land Information Secretariat Service New Brunswick Tel: 506-444-2077 Fax: 506-453-3898 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W bernie.conn...@snb.camailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca www.snb.ca/geonb/http://www.snb.ca/geonb/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] [AtlanticCanada] OSM and OSGeo
Jeff, Let's just leave the OSM Mapping party as a proposed event for the inaugural meeting of the OSGeo Atlantic Canada Chapter until the members can decide on the date and location of the inaugural meeting. If the meeting does coincide with the Geomatics Atlantic Conference in Fredericton in October my time will be consumed by the conference - I am on the conference committee. I am sure we will be able to find some volunteers to organize the OSM mapping party when the time comes (Please speak up now if you are interested). Bernie. -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng Service New Brunswick (506) 444-2077 45°56'25.21N, 66°38'53.65W www.snb.ca/geonb/ -Original Message- From: atlanticcanada-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:atlanticcanada-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jeff McKenna Sent: Tuesday, 2010-07-06 11:01 To: AtlanticCanada-OSGeo Subject: Re: [AtlanticCanada] OSM and OSGeo Bernie, I like the idea of an OSM mapping party during the Atlantic Canada chapter of OSGeo meeting (which might be during the Geomatics Atlantic event in October). -jeff Connors, Bernie (SNB) wrote: Jeff, I like your idea for a joint OSM and OSGeo event for Canada. I would like to do something smaller for Atlantic Canada. Could we have an OSM mapping party in conjunction with the inaugural meeting of the OSGeo Atlantic Canada Chapter? ___ AtlanticCanada mailing list atlanticcan...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/atlanticcanada ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
