Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-id] Low Cost Android with Accurate GPS (GLONASS) for OSM Survey
New tax regulation Beware On Dec 15, 2013 11:34 AM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: It's a funny mix and I've had trouble identifying a good choice for Indonesia. We have some issues with availability; not every product can be had here instantly, sure, but, if it can be found on AliBaba we can order it by Fedex. Yes, I have been watching all the device threads. This is a narrow request, accounting for GPS and Android with a budget, so, it's OK if I don't learn anything, but I was hoping I mind meet someone looking for the same thing :) Here is the basic criteria: Low price (Less than USD150, preferrably under USD100(high risk of damage and loss)) GLONASS or accurate GPS (not only A-GPS) Android 4.0/4.1+ support 5 inches or larger Can anybody recommend a device with these specifications? It is used for survey with Android data entry. When it comes to the GPS most devices that actually incorporate GLONASS do usually list that somewhere on the product, and so I have tended to shy away from devices that don't list that support, but I am probably missing something. I was hoping that this search would lead to a highly accurate definitive list of GPS chipsets and software with a corresponding list of devices within which they are deployed but no such luck. Any advice is appreciated. -- Alex ___ Talk-id mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-id ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis
Guillaume We use here . Almost any system here integrated with osm. F On Jul 9, 2013 11:43 AM, Guillaume Pratte guilla...@guillaumepratte.net wrote: Hello, I have been a serious user of OpenStreetMap for less than six months, and I am proud to recently have achieved my one hundredth contribution to the project. I really love the OpenStreetMap project, and I would like to replace my daily usage of Google Maps with OpenStreetMap. But it just seems I cannot. Anybody else feel the same issues? I'll give a few concrete examples why, humbly hoping that my words can encourage changes to the main website. First point: searching. I have OpenStreetMap zoomed in to some region of Montreal, Canada. I input café, looking for a coffee shop. I get results from Nominatim, inviting me to visit a village in Brazil named Café or even the Café point in Antarctica. While these search results awaken my globetrotter's desire to explore the world, they frustrate me at the same time. Why couldn't Nominatim priorize results from the bounding box or surrounding? Why can't OpenStreetMap show me results on the map like the OverPass API does, performing a search on the tag amenity=cafe and showing the results on the map? Second point: accessing POI information. I cannot click on point of interests (POI) to get more info about them. Why do we input address, business hours and phone numbers on shops and restaurants if the map cannot easily display this information to the user? Why do I have to show the map's data in order to have information on a point of interest? Third point: maximum zoom level. Some area are densely populated, and OpenStreetMap's current zoom level is not enough to see all details of the map. This is really unfortunate. Example: http://osm.org/go/cIrNs6Qzp--What are the restaurant surrounding the Hard Rock Café on this map? I have to use the editor to be able to zoom and see all data. Fourth point: sharing a point of interest. There should be an easy way to do that. I have found a (complicated) way to do it, which is all but obvious to newcomers. Here is how: • Using the layer icon at the top right of the map, I select Browse Map Data; • I select the object I want to share (which is not always possible; sometimes it is hidden behind a residential area or similar); • I click on Details • On the resulting page, I click on View way on larger map • I get an URL similar to this that I can share: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=225637513 Fifth point: routing. Why is there absolutely no routing implemented on the main OpenStreetMap website? This is I concede a naïve question, as it might be simply because of limited server resources. Once we have our new servers, is this something we want to implement, as a community? I really like the OpenStreetMap project, and I dream to be able to use it as a primary map instead of Google Maps. I feel resolving these issues would bring me many steps closer to making that dream come true. What do you all think? Do you also have showstoppers that prevent you to use OpenStreetMap as your primary and daily map? Guillaume ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geospatial PDF maps from OSM data
Hi jukka Any idea to make the map also in svg or eps? On Nov 23, 2012 1:21 AM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi wrote: Hi, I wrote a tutorial about using some new features of the next GDAL version 1.10. It is a GDAL tutorial but the examples are using just OSM raster and vector data so they may interest also this audience. PDF is not anything special and we do already have PDF export option in the OSM main map but these recipes bring also coordinates and OSM tags into the PDF map and users can themself decide what OSM features to add on top of the base map. The tutorial: http://latuviitta.org/documents/Geospatial_PDF_maps_from_OSM_with_GDAL.pdf Sample map in PDF format: http://latuviitta.org/documents/Geospatial_OpenStreetMap_vector_and_raster_map.pdf -Jukka Rahkonen- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI Viewer in distance
Hi Tim Nice, search request seems very fast - is it open source, or is the code available online? Did you have to do anything special for spatial searches with Lucense, Hibernate SEarch? this bantusekolahku's system will be opensource (waiting ministery approval, because this is worldbank work, and IPR under them), but we develop species management for endangered species, and will be opensource our search using distance search, show all POIs from 10km distance start the geolocation. I wish can make OSM search like this model.. but keep researching. may be after the strain system /species, we can discuss deeply in source code. F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI Viewer in distance
All, thx for the feedback.. the server located in IIX (Indonesia Internet Exchange) and fetch to our osmosa.net I think the gray because your browser is not allowed to use geolocation, which we use it. i think to make a switchable browsing between osmosa.net and openstreetmap.org.. let we work on it now.. bruno, the school map only for Indonesia map, because this server own by MoEC / Ministery of Education and Culture of Indonesia. you must move to Indonesia to get the map.. which there are around 90.000 schools there and we are working to make 200.000 schools shortly next week. this is my screenshot here. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151318224019085set=a.69155314084.95728.675689084type=1theater Ft ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI Viewer in distance
Could the grey screen be a rendering issue? You're rendering your own tiles rather than using the ones at osm.org - so areas in Indonesia are likely going to be pre-rendered and cached. You presumably haven't pre-rendered my home town (Oxford, UK), however, so there's no tile to show. I imagine that if I waited long enough the tile would render and I'd see the image. Yes, our rendering is not automatically, because we dont have enough space. the gray mean the tile is not exist yet, but if you refresh, there will be. Likewise for the POI data, are you only providing this for Indonesia? yah POI just for Indonesia Speaking of rendering your own tiles, I noticed that some areas are showing old data - Lembang, Bandung, for example - is this caused by not importing more recent data, or by keeping old tiles in the cache? we are upgrading the tile right now for newest map... i took 2 week for this. The site does look impressive, hopefully we'll be able to sort out the remaining little issues. we try to integarte the OSM map with our POI. but to save the POI from our system to OSM, that our outstanding right now. I think Alex ROlin also working smiliar idea. have smiliar question.. Best, Joseph On 15 November 2012 11:21, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: All, thx for the feedback.. the server located in IIX (Indonesia Internet Exchange) and fetch to our osmosa.net I think the gray because your browser is not allowed to use geolocation, which we use it. i think to make a switchable browsing between osmosa.net and openstreetmap.org.. let we work on it now.. bruno, the school map only for Indonesia map, because this server own by MoEC / Ministery of Education and Culture of Indonesia. you must move to Indonesia to get the map.. which there are around 90.000 schools there and we are working to make 200.000 schools shortly next week. this is my screenshot here. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151318224019085set=a.69155314084.95728.675689084type=1theater Ft ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI Viewer in distance
Sync data back... We will use camel as integration server . We seek how to use osm tile like josm save path poi etc On Nov 16, 2012 1:56 AM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Frans, once all your data is in place you might try this to make the view more informative: https://github.com/danzel/Leaflet.markercluster Frans, do you have a proposed workflow for syncing the data back and forth to OSM? A -- Alex http://www.commoning.com VoIP - +1 415 287 9620 “It’s no longer possible for a country to collapse in isolation. Now we all collapse. The only path to stability is to equalize the consumption rates of the first and developing world. Our dream is no longer possible in the new world.” - Jared Diamond It is very necessary that people should really go in for activities which have the quality of development. Development does not just mean building houses, but developing everything which is in the inner self. They should become skilled or clever, and capable, and have a firm character, so that they can believe in themselves and not always have to be dependent on someone else for their living - Bapak Subuh Sustainable development is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs […] Humanity has the ability to make development sustainable. - Gro Brundtland On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.orgwrote: Could the grey screen be a rendering issue? You're rendering your own tiles rather than using the ones at osm.org - so areas in Indonesia are likely going to be pre-rendered and cached. You presumably haven't pre-rendered my home town (Oxford, UK), however, so there's no tile to show. I imagine that if I waited long enough the tile would render and I'd see the image. Yes, our rendering is not automatically, because we dont have enough space. the gray mean the tile is not exist yet, but if you refresh, there will be. Likewise for the POI data, are you only providing this for Indonesia? yah POI just for Indonesia Speaking of rendering your own tiles, I noticed that some areas are showing old data - Lembang, Bandung, for example - is this caused by not importing more recent data, or by keeping old tiles in the cache? we are upgrading the tile right now for newest map... i took 2 week for this. The site does look impressive, hopefully we'll be able to sort out the remaining little issues. we try to integarte the OSM map with our POI. but to save the POI from our system to OSM, that our outstanding right now. I think Alex ROlin also working smiliar idea. have smiliar question.. Best, Joseph On 15 November 2012 11:21, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: All, thx for the feedback.. the server located in IIX (Indonesia Internet Exchange) and fetch to our osmosa.net I think the gray because your browser is not allowed to use geolocation, which we use it. i think to make a switchable browsing between osmosa.net and openstreetmap.org.. let we work on it now.. bruno, the school map only for Indonesia map, because this server own by MoEC / Ministery of Education and Culture of Indonesia. you must move to Indonesia to get the map.. which there are around 90.000 schools there and we are working to make 200.000 schools shortly next week. this is my screenshot here. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151318224019085set=a.69155314084.95728.675689084type=1theater Ft ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] POI Viewer in distance
hi all we develop a POI VIewer on Leaftlet, with distance around 300 POI around 10 km. the engine develop using hibernate with Lucense, Hibernate SEarch.. www.hibernate.org this search is the search engine which power the Hadoop http://hadoop.apache.org please test the apps.. http://bantusekolahku.kemdikbud.go.id/module/eduunit you can drag the map, and see how the POI changing based on the distance I think this is awesome feature.. -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] MapBox and OSM in Eclipse LocationTech
just got this URL from eclipse website http://live.eclipse.org/node/1176 any news will the mapbox work will be available in OSM , or just a propietary services in mapbox. thx -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] MapBox and OSM in Eclipse LocationTech
it become headline in the eclipse live F -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi, This has been discussed on the dev list several times already, see for example: http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/pipermail/dev/2012-**October/025746.htmlhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2012-October/025746.html http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/pipermail/dev/2012-**October/025970.htmlhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2012-October/025970.html Also see their blog: http://mapbox.com/osmdev/ Paweł __**_ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talkhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tracking Something/Anything in OSM
I like alex idea We are investing a lot in a system that smiliar to poi management from biodiversity, hotel, schools etc with our database. The schools system is a worldbank project. I love can exchange data between osm and ours. And put our poi in osm. +1 for make osm like wikipedia for map and poi Frans Thamura Meruvian On Oct 22, 2012 11:09 PM, Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi, There is a demo instance of the Activity Streams functionality: http://suncobalt.dyndns.org:**8081/ http://suncobalt.dyndns.org:8081/ Zoom in to the area that you want and click Activity tab. There is a link for RSS. Right now I'm working on a more general solution to storing change information because that's the main problem with such project - processing OSC files (or even augmented diffs) is not enough to provide relevant change data. Paweł On 10/22/2012 05:18 PM, Alex Rollin wrote: How does one monitor something? If there is a list of schools that is maintained by a school district, is it possible that the school district can be notified if one of the nodes/ways/items is changed? Can someone take 2 minutes to write down what is involved in this? Terms like ask the api for information about the object is the level of understanding I have of this. Is it possible? Alex __**_ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talkhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk __**_ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talkhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in OSM Database - Collaborators
i am interest with biodiversity, right now, i create a database, and yes, it is opensource see the website www.strainstory.com, we have both biotope information and also the species , we focus for biodiversty work in Indonesia, which i am personally interest with. the biotope example such as lake http://www.strainstory.com/backend/user/detailb?biotopeRiver.id=4028828e36a98d200136a9b3076d0009 and species example such as fish http://www.strainstory.com/backend/user/detail/ff808181355a2dd301355a3b79a80001 right now we will use camel from Apache , an ESB system. the ESB will read from my database, and save to OSM database, as POI. we have 5 project related to POI management, and still seeking information, should our data save to the OSM? or it is better become one layer on top of leaflet (we use leaflet from cloudmade). F On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been looking through the wiki for more information about appopriate data. I would like to meet more of the people storing information about presence of species, flora or fauna, inside the OSM db. I see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:species and http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/tagdetails.php?tag=species Any feedback about this is very welcome. We are just researching this now. Alex Bogor, Indonesia ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in OSM Database - Collaborators
after chat with Alex i am agreeing with his idea, about OSM = Wikipedia also. we can store all information related to map. I like this concept. and a tag implementation can benefit for people that use OSM API to his system F On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: Regardless of where the data is stored, is there a general model for how to use OSM when tying OSM-based info to external data sets? For example, I can tie a Flickr image (or say, species sighting or flora habitat) to an OSM way with a bunch of machine tags on Flickr. That is cool, but hides the Flickr-OSM tie on Flickr and makes the OSM community aware of this not at all. The same is then true for the species information. To Mikel's point - the issue of needing to put multiple tags on the same OSM node or way is a use case that pops up in many other cases. In my local park, how (or what) would I tag to list all of the tree types in my particular park? The geo answer might be to put a bunch of nodes inside the park's boundary - e.g. node=sitka spruce, node=oak, node=larch, and then run some sort of query against the park boundary, but that doesn't tell me a lot about how those trees are distributed through the park, etc... I'm not suggesting that osm become the world's database. Just curious about best practices for tying these data sources together, and how to do it with more of a two-way publishing model, so that if I'm looking at a map view in OSM, I could understand what other data sources have tied data to what I'm observing. On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:03 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi I'm interested in the topic, but haven't been contributing information yet. Some immediate issues that come to mind: Most areas would have more than one species of flora, but not clear how to use the species tag in that way. Fauna ranges are often not well defined in terms of existing landuse tags, so not sure if it is appropriate. Some cases could clearly be, such as a protected area set up for a particular endangered species. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From: Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 2:12 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in OSM Database - Collaborators Hi, I have been looking through the wiki for more information about appopriate data. I would like to meet more of the people storing information about presence of species, flora or fauna, inside the OSM db. I see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:species and http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/tagdetails.php?tag=species Any feedback about this is very welcome. We are just researching this now. Alex Bogor, Indonesia ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk The practicality of storing this information in the OSM database depends in part on how many species you are tracking. If only a few species are being tracked, there isn't a problem. If you try to record all of the species in an area, including the insects and microbes, then you are talking about tens of thousands of entries for even a small geographical area. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Jeff Meyer Global World History Atlas www.gwhat.org j...@gwhat.org 206-676-2347 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Java Framework
Hi toby Java api like osmdroid for android I hope josm and osmosis wanna share it The ide to gro osm integration developer Frans Thamura Meruvian On Oct 20, 2012 3:08 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all any reason why we dont have JavaAPI, but we use Java for OSM, and popular, such as Osmosis and JOSM? I got the Java is ? in this URL http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Frameworks What do you mean by Java API? The wiki page you linked has several java entries on it. Osmosis has an API that you can write plugins against to do things with OSM data. JOSM has functions to talk to the OSM server to download and upload data. JMapViewer is an API to create desktop applications that display map tiles. So yes, there are several OSM related Java APIs out there. Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Mapping an Area
hi all a lot of POI Discussion around, and i am planning to link between node become area. so, we can have an area implementation rather just a node for POI like building, etc, we have square, and why we implemen in POI node Question: how to make a POI become an area in OSM? any idea for this idea? F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping an Area
hi Richard I put a node for our offices. In planning lan to make a polygon/area. Still seeking how mapnik save the node and nodes for a POI Any tips? On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all a lot of POI Discussion around, and i am planning to link between node become area. so, we can have an area implementation rather just a node for POI like building, etc, we have square, and why we implemen in POI node Question: how to make a POI become an area in OSM? any idea for this idea? Most anything that I consider a point of interest can be modelled in OSM as either a point or a polygon. So you can find gas stations that are nodes and gas stations that are ways. You can find hospitals that are nodes and hospitals that are ways. etc. In general, you will use the same tags, amenity=fuel, name=PetroCan for example, but put the tags on the closed way, rather than on a node. Also, you would tag an object as either a node OR as a way, but not both. Which to do is largely a matter of mapper preference, and subject to local conditions. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping an Area
hi Alex and All :) but adding both make dirty our map, isnt it? my plan to draw a lake, and want to make it as POI's node search. in my research, esp lake tangayika in africa, every side of this lake, have a different species of tropheus, and i got a every side of the lake create a strain. take a look this picture/image http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/figures/1471-2148-7-137-1-l.jpg and i got new species distribution also here, in indonesia, psudomugill gestrudae, with blue and red colour. F On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes both are done, too, adding the way and the node both. How to track them once added? On Oct 20, 2012, at 4:47 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all a lot of POI Discussion around, and i am planning to link between node become area. so, we can have an area implementation rather just a node for POI like building, etc, we have square, and why we implemen in POI node Question: how to make a POI become an area in OSM? any idea for this idea? Most anything that I consider a point of interest can be modelled in OSM as either a point or a polygon. So you can find gas stations that are nodes and gas stations that are ways. You can find hospitals that are nodes and hospitals that are ways. etc. In general, you will use the same tags, amenity=fuel, name=PetroCan for example, but put the tags on the closed way, rather than on a node. Also, you would tag an object as either a node OR as a way, but not both. Which to do is largely a matter of mapper preference, and subject to local conditions. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Java Framework
hi all any reason why we dont have JavaAPI, but we use Java for OSM, and popular, such as Osmosis and JOSM? I got the Java is ? in this URL http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Frameworks F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Join HOT in Indonesia for a Few Weeks as a Tech Trainer
can our team be part of this? you know who are we and what we are doing? F On 10/10/12, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, Originally I put this out to the HOT list, but I figured I'm missing some people that way. As you may know there is a team of 8 OpenStreetMap trainers in Indonesia right now. This team leads workshops and provides technical support around OpenStreetMap use for disaster risk reduction around the country. The secondary component is continued training to become an increasingly experienced team of OpenStreetMap contributors. So far much of this training is coming from just a few of us (myself and Joseph Reeves). To expose everyone to different tech skills, different teaching styles, and to mix things up we'd like to have a another person join us for 3 weeks in November. There are a variety of skills we are interested in and suggestions are also welcome. So far ideas are: General programming in Python, especially with QGIS SQL Queries/PostGIS Setting up WMS Servers TileMill Web Server Configuration Sharing maps on WordPress/Drupal/other web tools Advanced QGIS Topics Processing of Imagery with open source tools Git For more information look here on HOT's website: http://hot.openstreetmap.org/get_involved/openstreetmap_technical_trainer and if you have questions ideas feel free to contact me. Best, -Kate ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Join HOT in Indonesia for a Few Weeks as a Tech Trainer
we have team that can help related to infrastructure, installation, little map skill (because most of us integrator and developer), and also managing servers. and the core team can be part of the program, and we can grow, as much as you can work with ministery of education. so we can create hugh team. and we are working with WorldBank for integrating system with openstreetmap. from install operating system, query sql, etc that our skill, and we are in Indonesia, and one city where you work now :). only need 2 transit of busway transJ. F On 10/10/12, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi Frans, Could you explain what you are thinking? -Kate On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: can our team be part of this? you know who are we and what we are doing? F On 10/10/12, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, Originally I put this out to the HOT list, but I figured I'm missing some people that way. As you may know there is a team of 8 OpenStreetMap trainers in Indonesia right now. This team leads workshops and provides technical support around OpenStreetMap use for disaster risk reduction around the country. The secondary component is continued training to become an increasingly experienced team of OpenStreetMap contributors. So far much of this training is coming from just a few of us (myself and Joseph Reeves). To expose everyone to different tech skills, different teaching styles, and to mix things up we'd like to have a another person join us for 3 weeks in November. There are a variety of skills we are interested in and suggestions are also welcome. So far ideas are: General programming in Python, especially with QGIS SQL Queries/PostGIS Setting up WMS Servers TileMill Web Server Configuration Sharing maps on WordPress/Drupal/other web tools Advanced QGIS Topics Processing of Imagery with open source tools Git For more information look here on HOT's website: http://hot.openstreetmap.org/get_involved/openstreetmap_technical_trainer and if you have questions ideas feel free to contact me. Best, -Kate ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. -- -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Legal Wording again..
we are setup another mirror like osmosa.net in our moec server, and will use .go.id (goverment). yes, i got this in FAQ Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors can i write like this Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors, server at Osmosa.net On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: From Richard on another list - Hello all, If you go to: http://www.openstreetmap.org/**copyrighthttp://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright you might notice a slight difference. :) OSM data downloaded after 9am today is now licensed under the Open Database Licence. The first ODbL-licensed planet.osm file is currently being generated. These pages summarise the main changes: http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/**Legal_FAQ http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/ODbL/**License_Transition/Guidance_** To_Data_Consumershttp://wiki.osm.org/wiki/ODbL/License_Transition/Guidance_To_Data_Consumers The main supporting documents on the wiki have been updated but translations and some of the more obscure documents will need attention. Our recommended attribution is now © OpenStreetMap contributors plus a link to www.openstreetmap.org/**copyrighthttp://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright . That page then gives further details of the ODbL and other relevant information. cheers Richard On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: this is a topic for legal. the content is no longer cc-by-sa, it is OdBL On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: i want the Osmosa also in that text content CCA from OSM server hosted in osmosa.net any idea? F On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: Data CC-By-SA by © OpenStreetMap. Looks great! Also, the OdBL chage is official. Can someone provide a new license text for OdBL? A On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we develop an apps , integrated with OSM, and we have 2 option, to use OSM.org and our own Osmosa.net take a look this URL http://demo.meruvian.org/module/eduunit the database is access to our server in osmosa.net, because both under our own IIX (www.iix.net.id) any idea for the right letter in the map box? F ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Legal Wording again..
got it.. Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors, server to Osmosa.net both link to their domain URL. NB: why we need to put contributors rather openstreetmap only? On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: When I read what Richard wrote © OpenStreetMap contributors plus a link to www.openstreetmap.org/** copyright http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright It seems like you can link the OpenStreetMap text to www.openstreetmap.org/**copyright http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright and you're done. A On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: we are setup another mirror like osmosa.net in our moec server, and will use .go.id (goverment). yes, i got this in FAQ Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors can i write like this Map data © OpenStreetMap contributors, server at Osmosa.net On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.comwrote: From Richard on another list - Hello all, If you go to: http://www.openstreetmap.org/**copyrighthttp://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright you might notice a slight difference. :) OSM data downloaded after 9am today is now licensed under the Open Database Licence. The first ODbL-licensed planet.osm file is currently being generated. These pages summarise the main changes: http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/**Legal_FAQhttp://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/ODbL/**License_Transition/Guidance_** To_Data_Consumershttp://wiki.osm.org/wiki/ODbL/License_Transition/Guidance_To_Data_Consumers The main supporting documents on the wiki have been updated but translations and some of the more obscure documents will need attention. Our recommended attribution is now © OpenStreetMap contributors plus a link to www.openstreetmap.org/**copyrighthttp://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright . That page then gives further details of the ODbL and other relevant information. cheers Richard On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: this is a topic for legal. the content is no longer cc-by-sa, it is OdBL On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: i want the Osmosa also in that text content CCA from OSM server hosted in osmosa.net any idea? F On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: Data CC-By-SA by © OpenStreetMap. Looks great! Also, the OdBL chage is official. Can someone provide a new license text for OdBL? A On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we develop an apps , integrated with OSM, and we have 2 option, to use OSM.org and our own Osmosa.net take a look this URL http://demo.meruvian.org/module/eduunit the database is access to our server in osmosa.net, because both under our own IIX (www.iix.net.id) any idea for the right letter in the map box? F ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Legal Wording again..
honestly we just use the tile and we wjll follow osm direction my idea to make more more local server to reduce osm load and contribution stictly must to osm.org we will follow any license that osm will pick here we just use leaflet and osmdroid Frans Thamura Meruvian On Sep 14, 2012 1:47 PM, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: Hello Frans, On 14.09.2012 07:33, Frans Thamura wrote: any idea for the right letter in the map box? You might want to reimport your data as it is now (and in the future) available as ODbL. If you stick with CC-BY-SA you will no longer receive updates from osm.org. Have a look how to credit the data: http://www.openstreetmap.org/**copyrighthttp://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright Your work can still use CC-BY-SA, so something along tiles CC-BY-SA osmosa.net, data (c) Openstreetmap contributors is fine. one link to your site, one to openstreetmap as stated in the link above. Stephan __**_ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talkhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Legal Wording again..
hi all we develop an apps , integrated with OSM, and we have 2 option, to use OSM.org and our own Osmosa.net take a look this URL http://demo.meruvian.org/module/eduunit the database is access to our server in osmosa.net, because both under our own IIX (www.iix.net.id) any idea for the right letter in the map box? F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Legal Wording again..
i want the Osmosa also in that text content CCA from OSM server hosted in osmosa.net any idea? F On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: Data CC-By-SA by © OpenStreetMap http://openstreetmap.org/. Looks great! Also, the OdBL chage is official. Can someone provide a new license text for OdBL? A On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.orgwrote: hi all we develop an apps , integrated with OSM, and we have 2 option, to use OSM.org and our own Osmosa.net take a look this URL http://demo.meruvian.org/module/eduunit the database is access to our server in osmosa.net, because both under our own IIX (www.iix.net.id) any idea for the right letter in the map box? F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Legal in OSM reimplementation project
Hi all Should we write cc by sa and openstreetmap in main page and show those in every map that use it. our apps is opensource under apache, but hosted version as saas also available.. and we have 2 options, for indonesian user we recommend using osmosa.net and outside indonesia using openstreetmap.org Thx F On Aug 18, 2012 4:20 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com [2012-08-16 14:58 -0400]: Could some consideration be given to grandfathering, ie if your existing use of our data is non profit or government and you are not supplying our data to third parties then you are permitted to continue to use the data as if it was CC-by-SA. This would avoid the problem of delays whilst approval is obtained once more. I would presume that anyone who needs time to put the license change into effect would continue to work off the last CC-BY-SA planet file (or the last pre-redaction CC-BY-SA planet file), without consuming updates of course, until they're ready to work with ODbL data. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM Legal in OSM reimplementation project
hi all we reimplement back the planet of osm, to our server, under IIX, www.osmosa.net, and there are several feedback from Alex, regarding the license in my main page, there are information regarding openstreetmap. i am now writing a legal statement that we must put in our server and web, if we use openstreetmap . but i still need to know also, for apps that using openstreetmap, esp osmand, etc, where is the legal standard that we must comply right now, i am working with worldbank to reimplement for goverment server (Education) for have openstreet under indonesian education network (jardiknas) any suggestion all.. -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Private OpenStreet's Strategy
hi all all of you know that we host the private openstreetmap here under Indonesia Internet Exchange, and good news it, Australia, Canada, and several country try to implement this model, because that is not good a hoop between server must go to USA. China also agresif lobby a ISPs here that have big traffic to link direct between Indoensia - China. by pass the USA internet network. these benefit both us to access both server faster, without have to ping pong to USA backbone. yes, IIX just awared as the best backbone in the world..this is pure US$ 0 free community internet backbone development, smiliar with OSM model, but for infrastructure. now to access our private openstreetmap (osmosa.net), faster for several city, esp in java island. and now also the IIX foundr (Johar Alam) develop IIX to Sulawesi Island and another 8 area all over Indonesia from Sumatera to West Indonesia. our plan to implement as much as possible OSM integration in our openstreetmap server called osmosa.net i have several question. 1. need your feedback regarding several extension on OSM outside OSM.org, and is it good bring all to the local OSM (osmosa.net)... we implemented like tracking, routing etc.. 2. i found that the tile for local country growing, and yes, there are several access from outside country (so we decided to implement global tiles), and shocked the hard disk eaten a lot, we need more space.. but we still not find a business model.. we use our programming skill to get revenue from integrate with openstreet with our apps to buy infrastructure.. anyone have experience with this? HOT team? 3. we found regenerate the planet data to our server consume time, and we cant make the data in our osmosa as uptodate as osm, and need almost 2 week for 1 time planet regenerating, anyone can help? 4. integration with osm is new topic, how to get link with all of them? esp we know, developer using different tech, python, java, etc.. how to communicate with them? regards frans ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Polygon or WPS
hi all anyone working with POI pattern, i am working on it, still dunno how to draw polygon between POI, in my case, 1 POI = 1 identified species, so if we have 100 POI, mean we have distribution of species in one area i want to draw a polygron on top of it, and create simulation, yes, look like moving prediction the model may be can be used also for simulate disease. i got Zoo Project, but still wanna to know deeply how to integrate with mapnik. -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Save to POI
hi all anyone here using Java, working with save to POI, like JOSM did i want to create a apps to save to POI F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSeaMap
Hi malcom I install seamap, it is using google map and opensea content I still confuse how opensea stand with openstreet Frans On May 17, 2012 6:33 PM, Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com wrote: Frans, Our website is: http://www.openseamap.org Our map is to be found at: http://map.openseamap.org/map/ Information about tagging sea chart features is at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/OpenSeaMap/Seamark_Tag_**Valueshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap/Seamark_Tag_Values Our SourceForge project is: http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openseamap/http://sourceforge.net/projects/openseamap/ The two newsgroups are on the Gmane NTTP server: gmane.comp.gis.openseamap.**devel gmane.comp.gis.openseamap.maps Regards, Malcolm __**_ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talkhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSeaMap
strange why the openseamap if it is part of osm, the mailing list is not using @openstreetmap mailing list OpenSeaMap was created in 2009 in response to a great need for freely-accessible seafaring maps. OpenSeaMap's goal is to add nautical and tourism information that would interest sailors OSM, and to present it in a pleasing way. This includes beacons, buoys and other seamarks, port information, repair shops, ship supplies and much more, but also shops, restaurants and places of interest. OpenSeaMap is part of OpenStreetMap and uses its database. the newsgroups sound old F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OpenSeaMap
hi all anyone review openseamap.org any idea where is the planet? and is the community become one with OStreetMap? or anyone can give me the glue thx ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Osmosa Viewer Source Code
hi all we just release and put our source code in github. take a loook https://github.com/osmosa the midas-osmosa will become our future, this is osmdroid implementation on midas platform, we will use this to all our services. so you will see a lot of map oriented solution usig openstreet, yes, can use openstreetmap.org or osmosa.net and the osmosa-viewer is a blank android app to use OpenStreetMap Viewer both project will become one, and will be use apache license so this is the first project related to osm with ASL license, vs most of GPLs outside -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] etrex 20 vs etrex H
hi all there are discussion in our community, regarding the etrex is etrex 20, ok? because most of us using etrex H. F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Osmosa Viewer for Osmosa.net and OSM.org
Janko, what is your positioning with this esp with my ANdroid client? F On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: Why isn't geoDns used for this like with the gorwen and orm **server in Sweden? It seems like the perfect fit for this technology. http://dns.openstreetmap.org/tile.openstreetmap.org.html Janko 2012/4/27 Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org Thx kate Yes, we just copy the planet, reimplement it here This is a case also to make all indonesian can access faster, and also learn how to implement offline or help openstreet load reduce, by reimplement outside openstreetmap.org The viewer can support both osmosa.net and openstreetmap My idea will grow features and also add all our solution You can use this as mapbox model but all opensourced On Apr 27, 2012 12:49 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Serge, It is not a fork but a local site, I think there is just some language confusion going on. My understanding of the intent it to provide faster access to OpenStreetMap data within Indonesia. The network within Indonesia is pretty fast, but slow to the rest of the world. So having locally hosted tiles and data is a huge boon in this case. Editing will be done on the main OpenStreetMap server. Correct me if I'm wrong Frans=). Best, -Kate On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: feedback welcome... There are several OSM forks, and unless I misunderstand, this is another one. If so, please discuss that on another list, and leave the talk list for OpenStreetMap related discussion. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Osmosa Viewer for Osmosa.net and OSM.org
hi all we success hack several code and make it become our own Viewer to our own Osmosa.net (OSM planet reimplementation project) take a look, and feedback welcome the code will release soon. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmosa.viewerfeature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm5ldC5vc21vc2Eudmlld2VyIl0 . this android apps use the tile in our server several feature will be added, like GPS, etc. :) feedback welcome... -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Osmosa Viewer for Osmosa.net and OSM.org
Thx kate Yes, we just copy the planet, reimplement it here This is a case also to make all indonesian can access faster, and also learn how to implement offline or help openstreet load reduce, by reimplement outside openstreetmap.org The viewer can support both osmosa.net and openstreetmap My idea will grow features and also add all our solution You can use this as mapbox model but all opensourced On Apr 27, 2012 12:49 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Serge, It is not a fork but a local site, I think there is just some language confusion going on. My understanding of the intent it to provide faster access to OpenStreetMap data within Indonesia. The network within Indonesia is pretty fast, but slow to the rest of the world. So having locally hosted tiles and data is a huge boon in this case. Editing will be done on the main OpenStreetMap server. Correct me if I'm wrong Frans=). Best, -Kate On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: feedback welcome... There are several OSM forks, and unless I misunderstand, this is another one. If so, please discuss that on another list, and leave the talk list for OpenStreetMap related discussion. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI for Hotel
Thx Will discuss internally, and share soon. On Apr 13, 2012 8:19 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi Frans, There is a new application that may be of help: https://github.com/geofabrik/sds-server It allows linking of OSM data to other information. In my training datasets I used rating as an example since that is a subjective idea. -Kate On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:33 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: I just thinking Create a web, fill there and save in poi of osm. But, what happen if someone has put there. Still dunno how to communcate if we have data also in my server that 'must' share poi On Apr 13, 2012 10:28 AM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, April 13, 2012 11:58, Frans Thamura wrote: hi all we just develop team to collect all the hotel information in Indonesia choice 1. create a hotel database outside openstreetmap 2. save in openstreet as POI what do u think? and we will create rating also for the hotel... Option 2, then (optionally) cross-reference your database outside of OSM with hotel POIs inside OSM. Alternatively, you can re-generate your database by extracting hotel POIs from the OSM database. For rating you can use the stars=* tag, but it's probably subjective, or not really comparable between countries. Best wishes, Andrew ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] POI for Hotel
hi all we just develop team to collect all the hotel information in Indonesia choice 1. create a hotel database outside openstreetmap 2. save in openstreet as POI what do u think? and we will create rating also for the hotel... F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI for Hotel
I just thinking Create a web, fill there and save in poi of osm. But, what happen if someone has put there. Still dunno how to communcate if we have data also in my server that 'must' share poi On Apr 13, 2012 10:28 AM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, April 13, 2012 11:58, Frans Thamura wrote: hi all we just develop team to collect all the hotel information in Indonesia choice 1. create a hotel database outside openstreetmap 2. save in openstreet as POI what do u think? and we will create rating also for the hotel... Option 2, then (optionally) cross-reference your database outside of OSM with hotel POIs inside OSM. Alternatively, you can re-generate your database by extracting hotel POIs from the OSM database. For rating you can use the stars=* tag, but it's probably subjective, or not really comparable between countries. Best wishes, Andrew ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Understanding tile and datamap
hi, anyone can share, how the datamap (osm2sql) become a tile. and how to know that that datamap become tile in the mod_tile F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] mapbox
I reimplement osm under osmosa.net, and want mapbox like implementation here. Any idea? Esp our country implement private internet backbone called iix, means indonesia internet exchange On Mar 10, 2012 10:41 PM, Sajjad Anwar sajja...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Frans, On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all i just read the 4square blog, they use mapbox , rather using direct OSM.org Yes, Foursquare and many others are using MapBox. Most of OSM's servers are donated resources and there is a fair usage policy http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy For this reason (plus several others) are hosting the map tiles separately. anyone using mapbox or tile direct? Bunch of people who recently moved to OSM are listed here http://switch2osm.org/case-studies/ F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Sajjad Anwar | W: http://sajjad.in | T: @geohacker ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] mapbox
hi all i just read the 4square blog, they use mapbox , rather using direct OSM.org anyone using mapbox or tile direct? F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM
mmm i want to know deeply about POI inside 4SQ and OSM, will 4SQ share with OSM database for POI? F On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible for Foursquare to let us use the information users type in (restaurant names, addresses)? There is a lot of good information there. Janko ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM
hi all we have great news that foursquare using OSM now anyone working with Fq? which API that osm using ? the ruby one? F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM
does this mean that OSM API is not usefull for integration? F On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Frousquare is not using any OSM API. They are just using map tiles provided by MapBox with the leaflet library to display it in the browser. Toby On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we have great news that foursquare using OSM now anyone working with Fq? which API that osm using ? the ruby one? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM
i wish OSM can provide like what GMAP API can :0 rather using this model. API wrapper to TILE will be interesting F On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote: The OSM API(s) are certainly useful for integration, but a different kind - if they were pulling small chunks of data, etc., then they'd be using an API, but at this point they're mainly using tiles. More to come, but at this point the process looks like OSM Planet + update chunks - TileMill rendering - MapBox Hosting - Foursquare. Tom On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: does this mean that OSM API is not usefull for integration? F On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.comwrote: Frousquare is not using any OSM API. They are just using map tiles provided by MapBox with the leaflet library to display it in the browser. Toby On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we have great news that foursquare using OSM now anyone working with Fq? which API that osm using ? the ruby one? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] FourSquare and OSM
hehe, i see my self was brainwashed by API jargon :0 F On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 5:51 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.comwrote: On 2 March 2012 23:00, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: does this mean that OSM API is not usefull for integration? What Toby says is they don't need to use the API. They source the tiles from mapbox, who in turn use the OSM planet files or diffs as their interface to OSM. And they use leaflet as their javascript thing. The OSM toolchain, like Unix, is naturally made up of small utilities each of which solves one problem at a time. Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] geojson
can i h ave the code of the free-map.org.uk? so i can learn how it work still seeking a way to make POI using GeoJSON i can see the GeoJSON latlong in []. F On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Look at http://www.free-map.org.uk/0.6/ This uses Leaflet (leaflet.cloudmade.com) to show the map. Note that the map is actually generated client side (using kothic-js); however it's a simple change to convert to a mapnik raster layer (use an L.TileLayer rather than an L.TileLayer.Kothic; see examples on the webmapping2.xhtml page). A 'drag end' event is captured; this then then sends an AJAX request to a GeoJSON server. Again see the Leaflet site for explanation of how it works. Nick -Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: - To: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk From: Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org Date: 20/01/2012 04:33PM Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] geojson i am still seeking how to use this geojson in mapnik. if you have an example that will be awesome a working example :) brewmap.osmosa.net - just json, i wish geojson F On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Hi, Do you mean a geojson overlay on a mapnik map, i.e. markers? I think openlayers has a geojson layer: Leaflet certainly does. There's some material on the Leaflet site on creating a geojson layer. You might also want to look at http://www.free-map.org.uk/course/ewt/webmapping2.xhtml Nick -Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: - To: openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org From: Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org Date: 20/01/2012 04:11PM Subject: [OSM-talk] geojson hi all we want to implement geojson on mapnik with OSM data any glue to start? the idea will extend BrewMap code, become application to manage POI F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] confuse with OSM API
hi all i am in discussion with OSMAnd, related to implement OSMAnd in non OSM.org domain, like our domain osmosa.net and it need Tile, so OSMAnd communicate with Tile. and we know there is OSM API, which used by JOSM. and we know JOSM also talking with tile, we can see the tile in JOSM so... i am confuse, how many API inside OSM, that we can use. i tought only from OSM API.. but it isnt F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] geojson
GRaham, your BrewMap run well :0 now student working on it ;) brewmap.osmosa.net run here, we try to move the datasource from openstreetmap.org to osmosa.net and you will see the apps based on Brwemap shortly,, thx for sharing it On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 January 2012 08:47, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: can i h ave the code of the free-map.org.uk? so i can learn how it work still seeking a way to make POI using GeoJSON Frans, I think Nick's Fremap Code is here: http://www.free-map.org.uk/svn/freemap/fmap2012/ws/ (linked from his blog entry). This would be well worth looking at, because it is a better solution than the one I used for BrewMap, which has all of the data in a single file, so would not work well if there is a lot of data. I have started on a geoJSON version of the brewmap server code in the TiledData branch of brewmap. It does not work properly yet, but you can see the postgresql queries that return geoJSON. I intend to have a look at Nick's code and use a similar model for brewmap. Graham. -- Graham Jones Hartlepool, UK. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] geojson
i saw our json. like disteller.. etc, yes, i can see if i create a dynamic apps that produce json based on your json, that need big resource. i can get why you try to generate the json from server and put as file system. but yes, i am thinking to make the json parsing also faster.. any idea? still dont get what is the different between your json model and nick's can explain? F On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Frans, The BrewMap code is fine for small amounts of data - but it will not scale to large datasets, so it is worth keeping that in mind when you think of other projects to base on it - I think the approach Nick has taken will scale better, so it is still worth looking at. Regards Graham. On 21 January 2012 09:26, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: GRaham, your BrewMap run well :0 now student working on it ;) brewmap.osmosa.net run here, we try to move the datasource from openstreetmap.org to osmosa.net and you will see the apps based on Brwemap shortly,, thx for sharing it On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 January 2012 08:47, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: can i h ave the code of the free-map.org.uk? so i can learn how it work still seeking a way to make POI using GeoJSON Frans, I think Nick's Fremap Code is here: http://www.free-map.org.uk/svn/freemap/fmap2012/ws/ (linked from his blog entry). This would be well worth looking at, because it is a better solution than the one I used for BrewMap, which has all of the data in a single file, so would not work well if there is a lot of data. I have started on a geoJSON version of the brewmap server code in the TiledData branch of brewmap. It does not work properly yet, but you can see the postgresql queries that return geoJSON. I intend to have a look at Nick's code and use a similar model for brewmap. Graham. -- Graham Jones Hartlepool, UK. -- Graham Jones Hartlepool, UK. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] geojson
i post another question related to this, in the OSM API question we will see, :) we will use your JSON model :) and we can see what issue will raise up, and we have started the threada about this scalability. that will become my homework to solve that, when it happen F On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Frans, I haven't checked Nick's code, but I think that it works by the client requesting data for the specific area that is being displayed on the map. The BrewMap code just uses a single data file to cover the entire area (in this case the uk), so even if you zoom in very close, it still uses data for the whole uk. This is fine if you only have a few hundred data points, but will become very slow if you have tens of thousands. Now for low zoom levels (large displayed areas) this amounts to the same thing, so there would be no benefit, unless you do some filtering on the server side to simplify the data (eg group POIs if they are going to be plotted on top of each other). I have not done this yet, but Nick, and the folks working on KothicJS are likely to have thought about it and may have solutions, which is why I think it is worth investigating how they do it. Whether it is worth putting effort into simplifying the data on the server depends on how much data you are dealing with. Regards Graham. -- Graham Jones Hartlepool, UK. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] geojson
hi all we want to implement geojson on mapnik with OSM data any glue to start? the idea will extend BrewMap code, become application to manage POI F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] geojson
i am still seeking how to use this geojson in mapnik. if you have an example that will be awesome a working example :) brewmap.osmosa.net - just json, i wish geojson F On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Hi, Do you mean a geojson overlay on a mapnik map, i.e. markers? I think openlayers has a geojson layer: Leaflet certainly does. There's some material on the Leaflet site on creating a geojson layer. You might also want to look at http://www.free-map.org.uk/course/ewt/webmapping2.xhtml Nick -Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: - To: openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org From: Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org Date: 20/01/2012 04:11PM Subject: [OSM-talk] geojson hi all we want to implement geojson on mapnik with OSM data any glue to start? the idea will extend BrewMap code, become application to manage POI F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space
hi ciprian dont get what the mean of cluster config and compressed fs. :) still new in OSM world ;) can give me the glue? F On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 10:30 PM, ciprian niculescu cnicu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Nice thread on space, but what about inode number, on my server i get fast to 100% inode used. So what filesystems do you use, in what cluster config. Do someone use compressed fs? Ciprian On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: Usage: z0 to z15: 252GB (4x 300GB 10kRPM - RAID10 - IO Utilization: 53%) z16 to z18: 1020GB (2x 600GB 10kRPM - RAID0 - IO Utilization: 58%) we use the z18 here.. F how to know the utilization 58%, so the space only need 1.4 TB F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Knowing the Access vs TIle Management
Well, you should only be rendering tiles on demand so your usage is unlikely to be as much as the osm.org mapnik layer What matters more than the size of the disks is the speed of them. A consumer 1TB drive is not what you want to use for a tile server. but now 1TB :) here.. that why need to prepare, because we will do promotion related to OSM here. to education in mainly F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Knowing the Access vs TIle Management
hi all my server is only 1TB space, and we know full map can achive 91 TB, i read from here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_Disk_Usage so we know the space usage, and which area used by user, esp our osmosa.net is free for public. any idea to manage it? like trend etc. space usage right now and i want to make trend usage also. F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space
hi all anyone have try to make all tiles render, without we have to click the mapnik/map we have full total planet for global, and wanna to make the tile render, so everyone that come to new map, (never clicked before), can see the map, without have to reset can help? and what will the total space used for this F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space
wow, my space only 1TB what happen if anyone click the server ;) out of space... :) how big is openstreetmap harddisk anyway :) sound my server will in problem. On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 2012-01-06 11:28, Frans Thamura wrote: hi all anyone have try to make all tiles render, without we have to click the mapnik/map we have full total planet for global, and wanna to make the tile render, so everyone that come to new map, (never clicked before), can see the map, without have to reset can help? and what will the total space used for this [1] states that the average tile size of all tiles is 633 bytes and the total number of tiles is 91,625,968,981. That comes to a grand total of 53 TB of diskspace. Not sure if this is practical. To limit the diskusage you can symlink all ocean tiles. Given that about 30% of the earth is not covered by water you would still need about 16TB to keep all tiles. The same pages says that on z18 only 0.9% of all tiles have ever been viewed. You may want to decided to generate z17 and z18 only in specific places, that will reduce diskspace by 75% also. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_Disk_Usage Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space
Usage: z0 to z15: 252GB (4x 300GB 10kRPM - RAID10 - IO Utilization: 53%) z16 to z18: 1020GB (2x 600GB 10kRPM - RAID0 - IO Utilization: 58%) we use the z18 here.. F how to know the utilization 58%, so the space only need 1.4 TB F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM Integration and POI and specific project
hi all i am working for a website called strainstory.com, a web to collect indonesian endangered species, which growing rapidly in indonesia. and wanna to map the species, biotope, and put as POI in the OSM, which right now we use osmosa.net (idea still). any idea for integration tips? where should i put the information (right now in strainstory database), and how to show in openlayers? tips welcome F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] map for GPS and local
hi all based on my experience last year (happy new year all), we install the indonesian map to our mapnik in osmosa.net, and we get the ZEE get problem, and after we put global map, 2 week work in our server.. all goes well since then. i have an idea to produce indonesia map only, with better than our last experience. our team will replicate the global data , and put indonesia only, i see geofabric do smiliar thing . can share a best tips to extract global data to local data. sorry if this question is a repeated. F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] discuss API of OSM
Thx Will join.. On Dec 29, 2011 4:16 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es wrote: On Jueves, 29 de Diciembre de 2011 06:11:52 Frans Thamura escribió: can i know, what is the best place to discuss API for OSM Hi there, The best place to discuss technical aspects of OSM, including the API, is the dev@ list: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es i...@geonerd.org http://ivan.sanchezortega.es Proudly running Debian Linux with 3.1.0-1-amd64 kernel, KDE , and PHP 5.3.8-1+b1 generating this signature. Uptime: 10:15:39 up 1:26, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.07 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] discuss API of OSM
hi all merry christmas can i know, what is the best place to discuss API for OSM F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] turn on chinese language
hi all our osm implementation (osmosa.net), has success created tiles.. have a try..!!! but i can see the china map show a box.. i believe this is chinese language i believe this is double byte word. anyone can help to give glue to fix this? F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] turn on chinese language
thx ;) F On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all our osm implementation (osmosa.net), has success created tiles.. have a try..!!! but i can see the china map show a box.. i believe this is chinese language i believe this is double byte word. anyone can help to give glue to fix this? See #3 in Troubleshooting. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik#Troubleshooting ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM render for mobile
hi all we has successfully deploy the global map in osmosa.net :) 1 week more for osm2psql, and 4 days for tile generator now, we want to make it run on mobile phone and table, a touch oriented i can see the sliipy map's zoom is bad in mobile devices any recommendation all? -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM render for mobile
you can try www.osmosa.net it is not mobile touch optimize, we cannot zoom by gesture that is my question... any idea to make it, mobile friendly? F On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:29 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 December 2011 15:25, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we has successfully deploy the global map in osmosa.net :) 1 week more for osm2psql, and 4 days for tile generator now, we want to make it run on mobile phone and table, a touch oriented i can see the sliipy map's zoom is bad in mobile devices I believe there have been improvements in OpenLayers in this area recently, so try out the latest version and see if you like it. Other than OpenLayers, also leaflet-js and khtml.org libraries are well adapted to mobile / multitouch devices, so try them out too. Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM render for mobile
hi someone. :) do u use the osmosa.net or openstreetmap.org? F On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:13 PM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Frans Thamura wrote: you can try www.osmosa.net it is not mobile touch optimize, we cannot zoom by gesture multiple touch and pull apart to zoom is working for me on that site (on a Blackberry Playbook with a Webkit-based browser). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM render for mobile
i am using android here, and the zoom , bad experience :( and the size is not auto resize, like i visit openstreetmap.org F On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:34 PM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Frans Thamura wrote: hi someone. :) do u use the osmosa.net or openstreetmap.org? F Definitely osmosa.net! - Your server will have seen me zooming into Denmark, Western Australia from the same IP address that I'm sending this email from about 20 minutes ago. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM osm2psql global data - 10 days
hi all my server just finished load the 250GB data of OSM data (global data) to our psql, using osm2psql, wow almost 10 days... and today we just start make 16x zoom tile... we will see how long it will be. -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Garmin ETREX 10
hi all any comment for Garmin etrex 10 for using OSM specific work thx F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin ETREX 10
what is the weakness of etrex 10? F On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: I believe you would be better off getting a 20 or 30. Both can use maps generated from OSM data (it is helpful to know what is already in the database when you go out surveying). Simon Am 15.12.2011 19:59, schrieb Frans Thamura: hi all any comment for Garmin etrex 10 for using OSM specific work thx F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin ETREX 10
my idea to buy for student training for GPS right now we use android devices, but love to add GPS devices.. still seeking the best way so we need as cheap as possible, and also can perfect work with OSM -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:09 AM, RB tan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I use the 30 and I really enjoy it. I also use it to monitor and record my running trainings with an heart rate monitor. Great tool. It is automatically recognized as a removable device and records everything in .gpx by default. Great tool to contribute to the map. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all any comment for Garmin etrex 10 for using OSM specific work thx F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin ETREX 10
ok, i will as for etex 20 i got also etrex vista H.. with WAAS. the price same. any recommendation? F On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Doesn't officially support maps, no storage expansion (microSD card) support. Simon Am 15.12.2011 20:08, schrieb Frans Thamura: what is the weakness of etrex 10? F On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:04 AM, Simon Poolesi...@poole.ch wrote: I believe you would be better off getting a 20 or 30. Both can use maps generated from OSM data (it is helpful to know what is already in the database when you go out surveying). Simon Am 15.12.2011 19:59, schrieb Frans Thamura: hi all any comment for Garmin etrex 10 for using OSM specific work thx F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OOT: OSMAnd
hi all i just download the source of OSMAnd, yup, because we are here Java programmer, and also android programmer... we want to make sure the source is well.. anyone here working with OSMAnd, wanna to ask how to compile, because get error in setForeground(boolean). and we get that the SVN version and GIT version are different, esp the packing and no explaination for the code. -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OOT: OSMAnd
Has put my question there, i found bugs in google apps, solved now. Strange must use gmail.com Sorry for inconvenience. On Dec 12, 2011 12:27 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: frans, the osm talk list is large list, and your mails are going to many many mappers, many of them are experts in mapping but not in all the software packages used. please use the appropriate forum for those technical questions http://groups.google.com/group/osmand Each software project has its own technical forum. thanks, mike On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:29 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: OSMAnd thanks, mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Education and Community Manager @ OSM World
hi all is there community manager or education manager in OSM network? which focus to manage the moderator or may be the evangelist of OSM - for community manager and also make OSM as part of education. I am part of OSGeo, which i believe OSGEO-Edu, has been pushed (by me in several case), since 5 years ago, and OSGEO just start OSGEO-Edu chapter in next FOSS4G, and now setup web conf and virtual meeting after see there amazing alot of things integrate inside OSM, and getting exciting install OSM services here. I believe the OSM++ under Education will drive new era of GIS education, which very important in esp emerging country. I chated this with Kate, about her LearnOSM, which Kate put under HOT umbrella. Education = HOT? I also discusses with Emir (Kate's team here), about OSM-id community program, and in plan is the answer. so I see these 2 are still my question. NB: sorry about to many question, i believe this is good for anyone. -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Education and Community Manager @ OSM World
Hi kate, I can see value of your work to 'revoluse' education problem here, i believe most emerging country. Lets me show, after my work create result. On Dec 11, 2011 1:48 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Since I came up in the discussion I figured I should explain myself:) On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Frans, On 12/10/2011 10:29 PM, Frans Thamura wrote: OSGeo is an organisation that works differently from OSM; it is more driven from the head, from people who decide that they want to have a XYZ chapter or install an XYZ manager, completely independent of whether or not there is a community. This is usually not how OSM works. I chated this with Kate, about her LearnOSM, which Kate put under HOT umbrella. Education = HOT? Even though HOT is yet another organisation with different concepts and rules, what you describe here is just an example of do-ocracy. In OSM, if someone makes something for learning OSM then that's ok, everyone can do it and you don't have to found an educational chapter first and appoint yourself to a post on that. LearnOSM really is just a website we made. While we were training people it become apartment we needed simple step-by-step instructions. Jeff Haack just stayed up late one night and started working on it. It has been awesome how other countries have gone and started translating it. I also discusses with Emir (Kate's team here), about OSM-id community program, and in plan is the answer. OSM doesn't plan its community. The community just grows by itself. OSMF does occasionally make plans for various kinds of outreach but you should not expect miracles from anyone. OSM is a do-it-yourself project. The community in your country comes from you, and people like you, starting something - not from people in Europe or America making big plans. Actually in plan was the website we were working on. We don't have a big plan for the community. Our goal is to get people mapping. If someone figures out a better way to doing that cool. We hoped the website would help people get together. Yes Emir is part of my team since he is doing an internship with HOT, but he is free-willed and can do whatever he wants. Meaning he's had meetings with other groups interested in OSM in his spare-time. Best, -Kate ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] search concept
hi all if we see the osm website, there are search, anyone can share how it work? can we use the lucene as index , or solr as index server -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] search concept
thx.. we will setup it.. just steal the osm.org main page to osmosa.net will update shortly F On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 9 December 2011 15:46, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all if we see the osm website, there are search, anyone can share how it work? can we use the lucene as index , or solr as index server www.openstreetmap.org uses http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim wiki.openstreetmap.org uses http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lucene-search Regards Grant ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] indonesia zona economic exclusive
hi all we download a local indonesia only map. and got problem in zona eeconomic exclusive take a look from osmosa.net vs openstreetmap.org i upload my photo to photobucket. http://s900.photobucket.com/albums/ac210/flatburger/TechWork/?action=viewcurrent=Screenshot2011-12-10at92228AM.png can help why? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] indonesia zona economic exclusive
Id community is not place to ask good question, until ine good leader with experience want to lead. We use planet data, using.osm2psql. Yesterday, closed becauce electricity. On Dec 10, 2011 1:06 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: is this not a topic for talk-id? anyway, did you check the data. what does it look link in josm? mike On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:25 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we download a local indonesia only map. and got problem in zona eeconomic exclusive take a look from osmosa.net vs openstreetmap.org i upload my photo to photobucket. http://s900.photobucket.com/albums/ac210/flatburger/TechWork/?action=viewcurrent=Screenshot2011-12-10at92228AM.png can help why? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] indonesia zona economic exclusive
Thx. Will work to fix this. We just get country data, and that is the result. I see zee is make the web pretier On Dec 10, 2011 1:50 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: please check the data on both servers if it is the same for that zone. looking here, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-7.3lon=108.3zoom=5layers=M I dont see the problem we are talking about this relation : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/304751 is it the same on your server: http://www.osmosa.net/map.html?zoom=4lat=-7.08012lon=135.14139layers=B Ahh, I see, you might have a rendering problem. here is what I think might be the problem Is it possible you are missing nodes that are outside indonesia? you should download the borders of all neighboring countries in your data set for rendering. Make sure you dont have any missing nodes. for example : It looks like your are missing data from the malaysian border http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/28285859 mike On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: Id community is not place to ask good question, until ine good leader with experience want to lead. We use planet data, using.osm2psql. Yesterday, closed becauce electricity. On Dec 10, 2011 1:06 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: is this not a topic for talk-id? anyway, did you check the data. what does it look link in josm? mike On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:25 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all we download a local indonesia only map. and got problem in zona eeconomic exclusive take a look from osmosa.net vs openstreetmap.org i upload my photo to photobucket. http://s900.photobucket.com/albums/ac210/flatburger/TechWork/?action=viewcurrent=Screenshot2011-12-10at92228AM.png can help why? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Logo, which one the right one?
yes ;) the problem after convert to AI, and open in AI take a look in the magnificier glass, i feel this is not good On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Apologies, I have to correct myself, inkscape CAN open that file. I converted it to svg and png http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2011/12/osm-logo-from-frans-inkscape-can-read.html mike On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Public-images-osm_logo-plain.ai what file format is that? I cannot read it. I dont use adobe or any non free software, I have inkscape. please use open formats. thanks, mike On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: Inkscape produce image when export to pdf. That is the problem come, in inkscape and in pdf from export, the design different. I has modified the inkscape edition in ilustrator, put in space.meruvian.org/logos. But need to confirm the design. I use for printing purpose here. On Dec 8, 2011 12:37 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Frans Thamura wrote: i just hacking the osm logo (develop using inkspace, isnt it?), now ichange and make it AI. Illustrator's SVG import is famously buggy (and I say that as someone who generally likes Illustrator very much). Your best bet is to use a tool with a better understanding of SVG, export to PDF, and then load that in Illustrator. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-Logo-which-one-the-right-one-tp7070979p7071347.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model
Frans, there have been other projects working with highschool students to map in OSM. The problems and mistakes made can be cleaned up by the community and there are tools that the teacher could use to monitor who is doing what. Since there is a user account associated with each student you could even associate their edits with a grade if you wanted to. can give me the glue? how to implement it here? F Best, -Kate On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 23:02, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: last month, all our server move to the heart of the IIX, so all people will access faster because only 1 hop from ISPs . I understand that it will be faster to reach the server, that makes it perfect for local tile server and planet extracts mirror, but I don't see any technical/economical reasons for a local copy of the API for uploading changesets.. Uploads of changesets to an unloaded API server might be faster, but edit conflicts are going to drive you insane, so unless it's 10x faster and 10x cheaper to use a local upload server then don't do it. Is it really slow to upload changesets from Indonesia? -- /emj ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Mirror Strategy Question
hi all my osmosa server have a full big data, 18GB compressed, and also the uncompressed, also indonesia data.. i think to share it again , because people in Indonesia, esp in Telkom Network and local ISP... can download it faster. 1GB bandwidth from our server to anyone in Indonesia network but i got this Link http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm#Downloading there are updated and Diff can help me, to implement both strategy? i believe with this strategy, anyone here also can copy and implement and we can see innovation grow from this distribution. we think wanna to implement daily update. NB: we are learning to do replication automatically to make the osmosa.net also fresh new... with global data. -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Well I think there are a couple strategies. For example encouraging students to clean-up each others mistakes would be a good one. You could use OWL to monitor edits in an area as well:http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OWL_(OpenStreetMap_Watch_List) Keep right can be used to look for mistakes as well: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Keep_right Additionally I would suggest making sure students run the validator plugin in JOSM before they upload their data. thx for the feedback will try to put all, we are working for a tutorial for this, our way of tutorial, and we also use learn osm. my experience with student every year, they will return , we call them mentor, that will do watch and review . new student usually the biggest mistake and can remove data.. and several of them, never report esp when delete an information F Best, -Kate On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: Frans, there have been other projects working with highschool students to map in OSM. The problems and mistakes made can be cleaned up by the community and there are tools that the teacher could use to monitor who is doing what. Since there is a user account associated with each student you could even associate their edits with a grade if you wanted to. can give me the glue? how to implement it here? F Best, -Kate On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 23:02, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: last month, all our server move to the heart of the IIX, so all people will access faster because only 1 hop from ISPs . I understand that it will be faster to reach the server, that makes it perfect for local tile server and planet extracts mirror, but I don't see any technical/economical reasons for a local copy of the API for uploading changesets.. Uploads of changesets to an unloaded API server might be faster, but edit conflicts are going to drive you insane, so unless it's 10x faster and 10x cheaper to use a local upload server then don't do it. Is it really slow to upload changesets from Indonesia? -- /emj ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OWL Implementation
hi all Kate, i put this OWL in new thread because i get the source code, but right now, i believe that the contribution model is direct to OSM central. that mean OWL must be inside OSM.org, but it is experimental project i got this code https://github.com/zerebubuth/openstreetmap-watch-list may be can glue? -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mirror Strategy Question
What do you want to do: 1. apply diffs from OpenStreetMap to your local 18 GB planet file? still learning, how it work... 2. redistribute that 18 GB planet file within Indonesia? yes. 3. produce an Indonesia data extract that has all data for Indonesia and that other people can download? that is my idea, i will try to promote to GIS vocational highschool , make them official contribute 4. produce diffs for distribution that *other* people in Indonesia can then download from your site and apply to their own local Indonesia file? i wish can create it, i believe this is the idea that in another thread for contribution model.. right now, we just use osm.org so anyone just download from osm website rather our server. 5. ...? Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model
+ 1 . Frans could lead the community to correct all those pranks(if done) made by the kid , provided that all kid usernames are monitored . ok. i will work on it right now 55 students what in my bootcamp are working on OSM, using LearnOSM material :) i will collect their username, and will learn how to monitor their contribution, stay tune ... any procedure to monitor? F and there are tools that the teacher could use to monitor who is doing what. Since there is a user account associated with each student you could even associate their edits with a grade if you wanted to. Grade with edit sounds nice ;) Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri http://look-pavi.blogspot.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mirror Strategy Question
we are testing :).. i can see that deploying database is very slow F On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 12/07/11 11:30, Frans Thamura wrote: 3. produce an Indonesia data extract that has all data for Indonesia and that other people can download? that is my idea, i will try to promote to GIS vocational highschool , make them official contribute There are several tools you can use for that. The most commonly used is Osmosis. You will have to make a polygon file that describes the cutting boundary (e.g. the one attached below), then you can cut Indonesia from your planet file with osmosis --read-pbf planet.osm.pbf --bp file=indonesia.poly --write-pbf indonesia.osm.pbf Then if you update your planet.osm.pbf, you can again use Osmosis to derive a diff between the old indonesia.osm.pbf and the new indonesia.osm.pbf, and make that diff available to your downloaders. Note that all this is only for normal files, and not for database and API and so on - you would be offering an Indonesia file for download, not API access to a database. Bye Frederik polygon 1 9.594773E+01 6.519293E+00 9.276481E+01 5.206835E+00 1.027505E+02 -8.327828E+00 1.232210E+02 -1.160655E+01 1.323276E+02 -8.641955E+00 1.409950E+02 -9.569642E+00 1.410126E+02 -9.257823E+00 1.410082E+02 -6.169678E+00 1.410126E+02 -2.566397E+00 1.404965E+02 -1.939047E+00 1.292901E+02 3.324019E+00 1.267747E+02 4.658980E+00 1.190637E+02 4.161586E+00 1.188332E+02 4.414538E+00 1.185705E+02 4.285381E+00 1.181416E+02 4.215412E+00 1.178383E+02 4.198219E+00 1.176233E+02 4.193986E+00 1.175024E+02 4.205274E+00 1.173956E+02 4.281464E+00 1.172495E+02 4.373165E+00 1.165395E+02 4.404166E+00 1.158602E+02 4.380058E+00 1.156612E+02 4.173388E+00 1.155479E+02 3.911527E+00 1.155548E+02 3.604769E+00 1.154965E+02 3.301354E+00 1.153695E+02 3.094426E+00 1.152083E+02 3.042688E+00 1.150058E+02 2.801209E+00 1.149269E+02 2.376776E+00 1.147005E+02 2.231817E+00 1.145221E+02 1.513726E+00 1.139113E+02 1.482649E+00 1.136300E+02 1.306535E+00 1.131119E+02 1.489555E+00 1.130845E+02 1.568974E+00 1.128575E+02 1.621343E+00 1.123674E+02 1.600050E+00 1.121272E+02 1.420492E+00 1.120929E+02 1.185665E+00 1.116914E+02 1.075151E+00 1.111974E+02 1.106233E+00 1.108337E+02 1.023346E+00 1.105695E+02 9.266410E-01 1.101372E+02 1.275455E+00 1.097701E+02 1.589692E+00 1.096843E+02 1.803760E+00 1.096603E+02 2.059227E+00 1.095299E+02 2.252526E+00 1.054407E+02 1.391704E+00 1.043153E+02 1.231244E+00 1.040188E+02 1.217430E+00 1.038185E+02 1.173225E+00 1.035797E+02 1.200853E+00 1.034314E+02 1.214667E+00 1.030911E+02 1.501979E+00 1.023939E+02 1.971537E+00 1.014414E+02 2.559672E+00 1.006619E+02 3.158571E+00 9.594773E+01 6.519293E+00 END END ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM Logo, which one the right one?
hi all i just hacking the osm logo (develop using inkspace, isnt it?), now ichange and make it AI. i believe AI is important for people that want to use it for designbanner, etc. i love to share it to all of you.. i got the 101010101 with zoomer glass (magnificier glass) ininkspace svg edition.. and several bugs in countour (green area), and several in street/river.. anyone know who is the logo master ? i see in inkspace edition, the logo like moving out from the border.is this the real logo, but i got the pdf, all area, street, countourtrimmed with border - see the PDF. which one is the right logo?-- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Logo, which one the right one?
Inkscape produce image when export to pdf. That is the problem come, in inkscape and in pdf from export, the design different. I has modified the inkscape edition in ilustrator, put in space.meruvian.org/logos. But need to confirm the design. I use for printing purpose here. On Dec 8, 2011 12:37 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Frans Thamura wrote: i just hacking the osm logo (develop using inkspace, isnt it?), now ichange and make it AI. Illustrator's SVG import is famously buggy (and I say that as someone who generally likes Illustrator very much). Your best bet is to use a tool with a better understanding of SVG, export to PDF, and then load that in Illustrator. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-Logo-which-one-the-right-one-tp7070979p7071347.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model
hi all my idea about this program, because we teach contributor, and they are start from 15 years old. every of them must contribute to the map server, and if the map data is not ok, or they remove the data.. i believe that will be nightmare, if hundreds student do mistake. but .. i think also wasting time, if we must redo what they did www.facebook.com/meruvian to know what will we do? F On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:11 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: 2) Post-process the diff files to change the id of any new elements to a negative value. This is simply a matter of multiplying the id by -1 if the element's version attribute is 1. Naive question here: so the OSM copy ends up with negative numbers? Isn't that bad? Also, in any case, you end up with different IDs in the two databases, no? Or do you then also update the ID in the source database to be negative as well, and then reset the id counter? Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model
my osmosa.net server is dedicated 8 core with 16GB data, 100MBPs bandwidth international, 1GB bandwidth inside indonesia my idea right now, want to make all indonesian, which we are inside our private internet exchange called IIX. and i am usually strong in education program, and interest to bring OSM to direct education. so, kids will play around with OSM, and if we allow JOSM direct update to OSM.org, i believe disaster will come, for a kids that naughty.. i am new in OSM infrastructure, that why i am asking to this mailing list.. the tutorial and program, has just start , but how to create good contributor that will be another problem :) F On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: I have been thinking alot about this model. Frederik has already mentioned some of the real problems you will have with merging data. There is alot of work to do on this topic, we can talk about details if you wish. If you want to donate some server resources we can talk about hosting some programs I am working on. mike On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: hi all talking about contribution model and distributed environment i believe this is good for OSM, esp to make OSM load in center server less, esp after GMAp become commercial. people will use it and integrator will use it.. second one (integrator) will bring more rush. the use of API will increase. of course for pre-contribute server will be amazing, because local community/chapter can work with it, and submit to the main center after approve and validate the content. sound like new architecture in peer-to-peer world? F ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model
Are there any technical reasons for having a local upload server in Indonesia, or is it only a social one? yup, we have Indonesia Internet Exchange and this server in the heart of the IIX.. i believe 15 years ago, hongkong, singapore try to make bad thing to this country, they sell 2-4x more expensive so one of local ISP (indo.net) linking the ISP and create a local Internet, and called IIX now. and now.. all game server, local dotcom, implement on this IIX and the ISP give it free to anyone here, so we have dedicated free, no loop to global.. i believe got award, as the best backbone implementation in Asia Pasific (several years ago). last month, all our server move to the heart of the IIX, so all people will access faster because only 1 hop from ISPs . Has edit local and then mass upload really been a good model in the past, I think I've heard of it in Georgia(?), Kibera, Gaza etc? But not sure. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model
our server server UP OS Ubuntu 11.10 HDD 1T x 2 (RAID 1) Memory 8GB (wait the 8GB, in order) mesin DELL POWEREDGE 2950 lokasi rack 2051 -- Frans Thamura (曽志胜) Shadow Master and Lead Investor Meruvian. Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider. Mobile: +628557888699 Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id) FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian Website: http://www.meruvian.org We grow because we share the same belief. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: Are there any technical reasons for having a local upload server in Indonesia, or is it only a social one? yup, we have Indonesia Internet Exchange and this server in the heart of the IIX.. i believe 15 years ago, hongkong, singapore try to make bad thing to this country, they sell 2-4x more expensive so one of local ISP (indo.net) linking the ISP and create a local Internet, and called IIX now. and now.. all game server, local dotcom, implement on this IIX and the ISP give it free to anyone here, so we have dedicated free, no loop to global.. i believe got award, as the best backbone implementation in Asia Pasific (several years ago). last month, all our server move to the heart of the IIX, so all people will access faster because only 1 hop from ISPs . Has edit local and then mass upload really been a good model in the past, I think I've heard of it in Georgia(?), Kibera, Gaza etc? But not sure. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
