Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB
If StatsCan is going to gather more than the just building data under the same licence, that would be sweet! The other data sets from Airdrie it would be nice to import, eventually, are address points, neighbourhood and quadrant boundaries, park benches and picnic tables, and city maintained fences. --Joshua On 2019-04-23 10:18, john whelan wrote: I'd check to see if it is included in the Stats Canada data first. If not then the buildings will be available in the Microsoft data which is correctly licensed. The open data licenses are a mine field. Stats is looking a releasing more municipal Open Data under the Federal Government license. Cheerio John On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 11:58, Joshua Kenney mailto:kenney...@hotmail.com>> wrote: If I can obtain explicit permission from the city, would I still need to wait for the LWG approval? --Joshua On 2019-04-22 16:03, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > Welcome to OSM, and thank you for your contributions! > > To answer your first question: the non-building data sets (parks, > address points, bus stops, etc) are not currently importable without > further effort: we would have to get that exact licence (with text > including "City of Airdrie") approved by the OSM Licensing Working > Group. I don't know if the LWG would object to the attribution > requirements, possibly not, but the approval itself might take quite a > while anyway, as lawyer things don't move fast. > > --Jarek > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 15:42, Joshua Kenney > mailto:kenney...@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> Hello everybody! >> Relatively new mapper here. I've been working on mapping my home town, and >> a couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months. >> >> I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets available >> under an Open Data Licence: >> >> http://data-airdrie.opendata.arcgis.com/pages/our-open-licence >> The licence terms look straight forward enough, are there any additional >> steps I need to take to confirm compatibility with OSM? >> >> One of the datasets includes building footprints. Would importing that get >> in the way of the import of the national data? Where can I access the >> national data to compare the quality? >> >> --Joshua >> >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB
Thanks for that update on the current status of the building import! I've checked the Stats Canada site, and they do indeed have the up-to-date building data from Airdrie (although stripped of the height and elevation tags). I seem to be the only active mapper in Airdrie, is it possible for me to move ahead with importing that part of the data? I'd certainly look for more mappers to discuss with if I decide to move on to more of Alberta. --Joshua On 2019-04-22 15:15, john whelan wrote: For building footprints there are two sources of open data that are correctly licensed. One is Microsoft's building footprints and the other is the Stat Can released data. The Stats Canada data is basically the municipal data released under the federal government's licence. I suggest you first check with James and ask him if your city's data is in the Stat Can data set. The next step having sorted out a source of open data that has an approved licence is to work out a process to include the data. There is a single import of the Stat Can buildings in progress. However a Toronto mapper took exception to a million buildings being added mainly in the West of Canada and asked the DWG to remove them. A group of three mappers are looking at ways to "cleanse" the data using open source software. Once they have arrived at an agreed acceptable solution then I assume the Canada wide building import will continue in some way. So you can hang on or you can submit your own import plan. To do this the local mappers have to be in agreement. In Ottawa this meant we met over coffee. Then you need to formally write up an import plan in the wiki. Submit it to the import mailing list and answer any queries they may have. In this case Nate will probably say it is already covered in the current Canada wide import plan so why introduce yet another plan. It also has to be listed somewhere or other as an import. It also has to be discussed in this mailing group. The City of Ottawa was kind enough to adopt the municipal version of the federal government's open data licence. It took about five years from start to finish to get them to be nice and adopt it. It has been formally approved by the legal working group. If you can get your city to adopt the same licence great. In Ottawa it meant we could bring in bus stops etc. Any other licence should either be approved by the Legal Working Group or you can put your own interpretation on it. If challenged at a later date your imported data could be removed so I don't recommend this route. In short if you have a couple of local mappers in agreement that they would like to import the data, and if it is available via Stat Can and they find the data quality acceptable then ask to be permitted to import it on this mailing list. James maybe able to assist. Only if this route is not available should you think about doing something else. Cheerio John On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 3:42 PM Joshua Kenney, mailto:kenney...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello everybody! Relatively new mapper here. I've been working on mapping my home town, and a couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months. I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets available under an Open Data Licence: http://data-airdrie.opendata.arcgis.com/pages/our-open-licence The licence terms look straight forward enough, are there any additional steps I need to take to confirm compatibility with OSM? One of the datasets includes building footprints. Would importing that get in the way of the import of the national data? Where can I access the national data to compare the quality? --Joshua ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB
If I can obtain explicit permission from the city, would I still need to wait for the LWG approval? --Joshua On 2019-04-22 16:03, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > Welcome to OSM, and thank you for your contributions! > > To answer your first question: the non-building data sets (parks, > address points, bus stops, etc) are not currently importable without > further effort: we would have to get that exact licence (with text > including "City of Airdrie") approved by the OSM Licensing Working > Group. I don't know if the LWG would object to the attribution > requirements, possibly not, but the approval itself might take quite a > while anyway, as lawyer things don't move fast. > > --Jarek > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 15:42, Joshua Kenney wrote: >> Hello everybody! >> Relatively new mapper here. I've been working on mapping my home town, and >> a couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months. >> >> I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets available >> under an Open Data Licence: >> >> http://data-airdrie.opendata.arcgis.com/pages/our-open-licence >> The licence terms look straight forward enough, are there any additional >> steps I need to take to confirm compatibility with OSM? >> >> One of the datasets includes building footprints. Would importing that get >> in the way of the import of the national data? Where can I access the >> national data to compare the quality? >> >> --Joshua >> >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB
Hello everybody! Relatively new mapper here. I've been working on mapping my home town, and a couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months. I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets available under an Open Data Licence: http://data-airdrie.opendata.arcgis.com/pages/our-open-licence The licence terms look straight forward enough, are there any additional steps I need to take to confirm compatibility with OSM? One of the datasets includes building footprints. Would importing that get in the way of the import of the national data? Where can I access the national data to compare the quality? --Joshua ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
