[OSM-talk] OSM Carto stylesheet vs Release osm2pgsql 1.3.0

2020-07-29 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)

On 7/28/2020 4:39 AM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote:

Further changes:

  * The pgsql output now looks for lua script relative to the
|style.json| file.
This is a breaking change. Users might have to change the file
names of
their lua scripts in the style files.

Does anyone know if changes need to be made to the OpenStreetMap Carto 
stylesheet or is it already compatible with this breaking change?


I confess that I run a planet-wide tile server with the OSM Carto 
stylesheet and using osm2pgsql to apply updates but I have NO idea just 
what is in the stylesheet and how it all works with osm2pgsql.  I've put 
in the documented commands and it "just works", at least pending this 
question.


Lynn (D)

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Carto not updating

2020-06-28 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/971999

On 6/28/2020 8:23 AM, Ture Pålsson wrote:



27 juni 2020 kl. 17:20 skrev Marc M. :

Hello,

Le 27.06.20 à 17:04, ET Commands a écrit :

Is something wrong with the OSM Carto servers?

one diff freeze the update
sequenceNumber=4082799
timestamp=2020-06-26T19:17:02Z
ppl on #osm-dev are working on this.

Does anyone have the osm ID of the geometry that tripped things up? Seems like 
a good test case. :-)



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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Carto not updating

2020-06-27 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Where is #osm-dev?  I'd like to listen in as my updates are also 
stalling with osm2pgsql ramping up to 100% while processing relations.


Lynn (D) - Running a planet-wide tile server with updates...  (or trying 
to!)


On 6/27/2020 11:20 AM, Marc M. wrote:

Hello,

Le 27.06.20 à 17:04, ET Commands a écrit :

Is something wrong with the OSM Carto servers?

one diff freeze the update
sequenceNumber=4082799
timestamp=2020-06-26T19:17:02Z
ppl on #osm-dev are working on this.

Regards,
Marc

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Re: [OSM-talk] Minutely update server slow?

2019-04-20 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Hm, traced the planet.openstreetmap.org back to 
ironbelly.openstreetmap.org and see this on their munin pages:


From 
https://munin.openstreetmap.org/openstreetmap.org/ironbelly.openstreetmap.org/index.html


Looks like something is ramping up in apache and TCP networking along 
with whatever Chrony's "Root dispersion" means.  Disk space usage is 
also climbing on the root file system, but that might be increasing 
apache logs?


Apache accesses

Disk usage in percent

Utilization per device

TCP

Chrony Tracking Stats

Lynn (D)

On 4/20/2019 2:03 PM, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:


I run a personal tile server for the entire planet and have it 
configured with minutely updates downloaded by osmosis.  Over the past 
few days, I've noticed that my updates are falling behind and 
subsequently noticed in the osmosis.log file that it is taking a LONG 
time to download 4-6 hours of minutely diffs. This usually took 5-10 
minutes, but recently it takes 45 minutes to an hour.  And sometimes 
osmosis times out completely.


Here's my osmosis configuration.txt file if that helps.


# The URL of the directory containing change files.
baseUrl=https://planet.openstreetmap.org/replication/minute

# Defines the maximum time interval in seconds to download in a 
single invocation.

# Setting to 0 disables this feature.
maxInterval = 21600


Anyone else seeing slow minutely diff downloads?

Lynn (D)

PS.  Here's the munin rdnerd Data import lag daily and weekly graphs:

Data import lag

Data import lag


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Re: [OSM-talk] Minutely update server slow?

2019-04-20 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)

I don't see how that relates to minutely updates on a personal tile server?

On 4/20/2019 2:13 PM, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:

what about open street cam .org
*From:* Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
*Sent:* Saturday, April 20, 2019 1:03 PM
*To:* OpenStreetMap ; openstreetmap/osm2pgsql
*Subject:* [OSM-talk] Minutely update server slow?

I run a personal tile server for the entire planet and have it 
configured with minutely updates downloaded by osmosis.  Over the past 
few days, I've noticed that my updates are falling behind and 
subsequently noticed in the osmosis.log file that it is taking a LONG 
time to download 4-6 hours of minutely diffs.  This usually took 5-10 
minutes, but recently it takes 45 minutes to an hour.  And sometimes 
osmosis times out completely.


Here's my osmosis configuration.txt file if that helps.


# The URL of the directory containing change files.
baseUrl=https://planet.openstreetmap.org/replication/minute

# Defines the maximum time interval in seconds to download in a 
single invocation.

# Setting to 0 disables this feature.
maxInterval = 21600


Anyone else seeing slow minutely diff downloads?

Lynn (D)

PS.  Here's the munin rdnerd Data import lag daily and weekly graphs:

Data

Data


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[OSM-talk] Minutely update server slow?

2019-04-20 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
I run a personal tile server for the entire planet and have it 
configured with minutely updates downloaded by osmosis.  Over the past 
few days, I've noticed that my updates are falling behind and 
subsequently noticed in the osmosis.log file that it is taking a LONG 
time to download 4-6 hours of minutely diffs.  This usually took 5-10 
minutes, but recently it takes 45 minutes to an hour. And sometimes 
osmosis times out completely.


Here's my osmosis configuration.txt file if that helps.


# The URL of the directory containing change files.
baseUrl=https://planet.openstreetmap.org/replication/minute

# Defines the maximum time interval in seconds to download in a single 
invocation.

# Setting to 0 disables this feature.
maxInterval = 21600


Anyone else seeing slow minutely diff downloads?

Lynn (D)

PS.  Here's the munin rdnerd Data import lag daily and weekly graphs:

Data import lag

Data import lag

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Re: [OSM-talk] Outperforming TomTom

2013-09-12 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)

On 9/12/2013 5:09 AM, Lester Caine wrote:

Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Since the majority of sat nav's are now smart devices, why can't 
they all be
reporting back the average speed where they are so we can 
automatically map

the current traffic hot spots?


That data is already available for sale from mobile network operators 
- that is
why you don't see much interest in having navigation devices provide 
feedback:
every mobile device is already providing ample sampling. Of course 
that doesn't

help the free world very much...


That is why what I'm thinking is the 'free' version ;)


I don't know how open their data is, but have you heard of waze?  I just 
stumbled onto it yesterday.


http://www.waze.com/

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Interested in all things GPS and tracking



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Re: [OSM-talk] Size of installed Database?

2013-08-31 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
I have my full planet database coupled with the flatnodes file on a pair 
of SSDs.  One is 128GB and the other is 256GB and they're VERY close to 
not being large enough. I've got the rendering tables on one and the 
update (forget the proper names) tables on the other.  I'm looking to 
swap out the 128GB with a 256GB and hopefully split the rendering tables 
between the spindles with the corresponding update tables on the 
opposite spindle.


Munin (http://tinyurl.com/6v8lvvc) shows my gis database at 272GB, but 
that doesn't include the 18GB flatnodes file (that's growing steadily) 
for a total consumption of 290GB.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 8/31/2013 1:58 PM, TorstenMohr@schleim wrote:

Hello,

i'm about to install the latest planet.osm and i'd like to install it on an
SSD.

The bzipped XML file is approximately 31 GB of size, but how much space will i
need on an SSD for the PostgreSQL database?

I haven't bought an SSD yet and i'd like to make sure that the database will
fit on the SSD.


It would be very kind if somebody could tell me how much size an installation
takes on disk and how old their installation is (if it is not actual).


Thanks for any hints
Torsten


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Re: [OSM-talk] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-25 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
But the Settings screen shot shows Editor vs Editor with Satellite 
vs Satellite only - no editing vs Mapnik only - no editing.


Also, the Clear Cache screen has entries for OSM Data, Bing Aerial 
Tiles, and Mapnik Tiles and the text implies that where ever you've 
viewed is cached locally, possibly allowing offline use, albeit maybe 
not easy to pre-load?


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 1/25/2013 2:42 PM, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote:

Whoops, sorry. It says editor quite clearly.. Should read emails b4 
replying...
From the go,
-Jaakko
Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel
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Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta

-Original Message-
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:34:15
To: Jeff Meyerj...@gwhat.org
Cc: talk...@openstreetmap.org; talk...@openstreetmap.org; OpenStreetMap US 
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Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-Planet

2012-09-15 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)

  
  
I'm getting an open error on the
  .torrent file from Vuze. I have the planet downloaded already and
  was trying to set up a seed. It says:
  
  
  
  Error reading torrent file  ANNOUNCE_URL malformed
  ('node://140.211.15.128:6989' (interesting lack of close
  parenthesis there, too). Anyone got any ideas or an alternate
  source for the .torrent file?
  
  I've got the PBF planet already seeding using the .torrent from
  
  http://openstreetmap.us/torrents/planet-120912.osm.pbf.torrent
  
  Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ
  
  On 9/14/2012 4:26 PM, Toby Murray wrote:


  On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

  
Note that the PBF planet is still being copied / generated.

  
  
Looks like PBF generation just finished. It is still working on the .md5

I see a torrent[1] has gone up with the new osm.bz2 planet... will we
get one for pbf too?

[1] http://openstreetmap.us/torrents/planet-120912.osm.bz2.torrent

Toby

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[OSM-talk] Zoom 14 gray vs green?

2012-06-12 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Ok, I've got zero editing experience, but have been using and exploring 
OSM for some time now.  Can someone lead me by the nose as to what might 
be causing zoom level 14 and only 14 to be gray instead of green for the 
National Park?


http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.5585lon=-83.5005zoom=14layers=M

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


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Re: [OSM-talk] Zoom 14 gray vs green?

2012-06-12 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)

On 6/12/2012 1:50 PM, Frank Steggink wrote:

On 12-6-2012 19:43, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:
Ok, I've got zero editing experience, but have been using and 
exploring OSM for some time now.  Can someone lead me by the nose as 
to what might be causing zoom level 14 and only 14 to be gray instead 
of green for the National Park?


http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.5585lon=-83.5005zoom=14layers=M

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


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The rendering date of the tiles was April 12. I've requested a 
rerendering of this meta tile by marking it dirty, and now those are 
green again.
Normally tiles of level 13+ should be rerendered automatically on 
changes. But perhaps this didn't happen, because the area is quite 
large, so the metatile falls entirely within the park. (Not checked 
though.)



Ok, that would explain why the rendering date was current by the time I 
tracked down the individual tile file and did the /status check.  I was 
headed in to verify that (once I remembered the feature) and was going 
to do my own /dirty to see if it would clear up, but you got there 
before I did.


Thanks for helping out and I'll see if I can remember to try that next 
time before posting here.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS.  Yes, the tile is green now for me also!


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Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Possibly using some 3rd party source of elevation data by coordinate 
(like the Shuttle Radar Topography Mission data from 
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/) and if the ele=0 tag is on a location 
where the average terrain around the coordinate is substantially 
different than zero would be a way to flag the bad vs the good data?


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

On 5/19/2012 12:09 PM, Thomas Davie wrote:
So what you're saying is I know there's broken data there, I'll fix 
this by deleting good data.  That doesn't sound like a good plan to 
me in any way shape or form.


Bob

On 19 May 2012, at 15:28, Worst Fixer wrote:


Hello.

Most of ele=0.0|0|0.000 tags were produced by bad import 
scripts or automatical GPS track conversion software.


I propose removal not all ele=0.0|0|0.000. All that had 
source:ele tag were preserved.


2012/5/19 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl mailto:carti...@xs4all.nl

Can you explain in plain English what kind of problem you see
with the
ele=0 tag?

On 05/19/2012 03:57 PM, Worst Fixer wrote:
 Hello, all.

 I ask you to review my planned mechanical edit.

 Main changed tag is ele=0.

 While doing this edit, I also want clean other tag. Also is_in
tag was
 parsed into a set of more detailed tags.

 I also created overview.html that might help your review.

 https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzI7ljRzQhp4VnFPVkhZa096LWM

 If you see something bad in this, please explain what exactly
is bad in
 this edit (not all edit is bad!).

 Also I want you suggest ways to improve this edit if it needs to.

 If no good and valid responses come until 2012-05-22, I will
upload this.

 If you want do some other big mechanical edits, but have no time or
 enthusiasm to do it, write me in person.

 WorstFixer, twitter: @worstfixer


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Re: [OSM-talk] License change/redaction affecting objects geometry

2012-04-12 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Any help in identifying areas that should be eye-balled and possibly 
cleaned up would be welcome help indeed.  It seems a small bit to attach 
a tag to any affected ways or relations from which members have been 
redacted.  This will be especially helpful when the editing tools catch 
up to show the tags presence and/or highlight what could use attention.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

On 4/12/2012 5:01 AM, Pieren wrote:

Hi,

The rebuild team is warning that the relicensing (redaction script)
will unsurprisingly affect many objects geometry like ways loosing
nodes, intersections with unconnected ways, self-intersecting
polygons, roundabouts not round, buildings not square anymore, etc..
([1]).
The question is to insert in the rebuild script some kind of reports
or logs about such affected objects or not. First, I think it has to
be discussed widely with the community, not only in a small group (we
have enough conspiracy noises in this project).
Then, I think that the best option would be to add a specific tag
which could facilitate the remapping process for the crowd. The tag
should be enough self-explanatory for all, including newcomers and
removed once the issue is fixed.
Another option is to set-up some monitoring of the affected objects
and consider them as 'fixed' as soon as they are touched after the
relicensing (but that could be insufficient imho).
Last option is to do nothing since we already have many quality
assurance tools ([2]) monitoring the contributions.

Pieren


[1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/rebuild/2012-April/000199.html
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_Assurance

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Re: [OSM-talk] Old Server planet is up

2012-04-03 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)

http://osm-torrent.torres.voyager.hr/files/planet-120401.osm.bz2.torrent

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

On 4/3/2012 12:52 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:

   http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet-120401.osm.bz2.md5

Is that going to be torrented?  I would think many people want a copy...


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Re: [OSM-talk] automated abbreviation changes?!

2012-03-23 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
IMHO, here in the US we have the USPS which has published standardized 
street naming conventions specifically using the abbreviations.  It 
would seem to me that these official street names are what should 
stick and the expansions of them should not be happening.  Not to 
mention how much more crowded the map labels would become.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

On 3/23/2012 8:36 AM, Mikel Maron wrote:

Hi

User chdr (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/chdr) seems to be running 
a script to automatically replace street name abbreviations with the 
full word.
so 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW becomes 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue 
Northwest. Which is not the way anyone ever writes street names here 
in DC.


Anyone else aware of this? Opinions? Should this be stopped?

-Mikel
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron


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Re: [OSM-talk] automated abbreviation changes?!

2012-03-23 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)

On 3/23/2012 9:04 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:

On 23/03/2012 13:47, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:

On 3/23/2012 8:36 AM, Mikel Maron wrote:
User chdr (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/chdr) seems to be 
running a script to automatically replace street name abbreviations 
with the full word.
so 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW becomes 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue 
Northwest. Which is not the way anyone ever writes street names here 
in DC.
IMHO, here in the US we have the USPS which has published 
standardized street naming conventions specifically using the 
abbreviations.  It would seem to me that these official street 
names are what should stick and the expansions of them should not be 
happening.  Not to mention how much more crowded the map labels would 
become.

I'm new to this problem, but those possible strategies spring to my mind:
- Record only the abbreviated name and let the user expand it using 
his favourite rules if he wants.
- Record only the canonical expanded name and let the user abbreviate 
it using his favourite rules if he wants.
- Record both the canonical expanded name and the abbreviated name, 
let the user choose which one he wants.


Would a name:abbreviated tag make sense ?

Is the expanded name the canonical one ?


I'm not familiar enough with OSM or mapping terminology to know which is 
canonical, but my address is:


USPS: 521 Waterman Ln SE
Full: 521 Waterman Lane SouthEast

But I've never, ever written it in the full form and even the 
city-supplied street sign shows Waterman Ln.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS.  For non-US residents, USPS = United States Postal Service

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Re: [OSM-talk] automated abbreviation changes?!

2012-03-23 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)

On 3/23/2012 9:40 AM, Tom Hughes wrote:

On 23/03/12 12:36, Mikel Maron wrote:


User chdr (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/chdr) seems to be running a
script to automatically replace street name abbreviations with the full
word.
so 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW becomes 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest.
Which is not the way anyone ever writes street names here in DC.


Well the normal rule in OSM is that we write names unabbreviated 
because it's easier for a user to abbreviate automatically then to 
expand automatically.


That said certain abbreviations are so common in the US that the names 
are essentially never written in full and those possibly should be 
left alone.




Hence http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Name_finder:Abbreviations#English

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


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Re: [OSM-talk] automated abbreviation changes?!

2012-03-23 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)

On 3/23/2012 11:00 AM, Kay Drangmeister wrote:


Lynn wrote:


my address is:

USPS: 521 Waterman Ln SE
Full: 521 Waterman Lane SouthEast

But I've never, ever written it in the full form and even the
city-supplied street sign shows Waterman Ln.


http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GBword1=%22waterman+ln%22word2=%22waterman+lane%22 

this looks like it is almost a draw (181:150). So never ever seems 
exaggerated. :-)


Nope, note the I in that statement.  I have NEVER written it in full 
form.  Lane, yes.  SouthEast NEVER.  Consider:


http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GBword1=waterman+ln+seword2=waterman+lane+southeast

But I'm dropping out of this discussion having learned of the OSM 
standard and being made re-aware of the difference between the data 
and a rendering of the data.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


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Re: [OSM-talk] Group relation proposal

2012-03-22 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)

On 3/22/2012 2:27 PM, Robert Scott wrote:

On Thursday 22 March 2012, LM_1 wrote:

I have created a new proposal for group relation (type). It is
intended to reduce tagging duplication and make it easier to map dense
public transport areas by grouping ways that are used by multiple
transport lines (not having to add the same group to multiple route
relations).
The proposal is here:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Group_Relation

IMO this would make life significantly more painful for data consumers.



+1 or 1,000 from me!  Especially as more developers move to being 
data/API consumers rather than tile server retrieve-and-display.


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


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Re: [OSM-talk] Windows OpenStreetMap Server

2012-02-21 Per discussione Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
And if  you plan to run a full planet OSM tile server, you better have 
LOTS of RAM and seriously FAST disk drives!


I managed to get the planet imported into a 24GB VMware Ubuntu VM spread 
across 3 physical spindles with LVM but all on a Windows 7 64 bit 
host..  By the time the planet was downloaded and imported, it was 
already 8.3 DAYS behind.


I got the osmosis/osm2pgsql job running (Minutely Mapnik) and it's now 
just about 1 day behind, but the import was finished on January 25 and 
it is now February 20.  Yes, it has taken nearly a MONTH to get and 
apply the diffs in 6 hour chunks.  At least I could drop the VM from 
24GB to 7GB for the catchup phase!


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

On 2/21/2012 10:02 PM, Toby Murray wrote:

Step 1: Install Virtualbox
Step 2: Install Ubuntu inside of Virtualbox
Step 3: Follow linux documentation to install your server

I know there are some people running OSM related servers out there but
they are rare and documentation will be sparse and out of date. Also,
you haven't said what kind of OSM database you are trying to install.
I'm guessing you want a tile rendering server? That seems to be the
most common. In this case, setting up the database is only one part of
the process. Getting Mapnik to run on windows is going to be its own
chore after you get the database itself set up. Again, probably not
impossible but unless you already know a thing or two about how things
work, it isn't going to be easy.

For what it's worth, I did find this in the dev mailing list archives.
Not sure if it is what you want though.
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2012-January/024239.html

Toby


On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Armandasantos@gmail.com  wrote:

Someone already installed OpenStreetMap database on a windows server?
I searched and I only found instructions how to do this in Linux.
Any link to documentation that explains how to install OSM on windows
server?
Thanks

Em 20 de fevereiro de 2012 17:13, yvecaiyve...@gmail.com  escreveu:


I think it is, however most of the documentation available is dedicated to
Ubuntu / Debian.
Yves

Le 20/02/2012 17:51, Armanda a écrit :

Is that possible to install an OpenStreetMap database on a windows server?
Thanks

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