Re: [talk-ph] Mapping all lanes of a toll plaza

[Ervin Malicdem]

Unless there is an "island" that separates them outside the toll booth
building, I believe creating a separate way for that purpose makes it too
cluttered. I second ":lanes" tagging scheme. In addition, we can place
separate nodes for each toll booth instead as what was done in Cavitex and
MCX.

Regards,

Ervin M.
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motherland.
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Rally de Leon  wrote:

>
> ...in which case, go for the ":lanes" tagging scheme (but it looks
> complicated -- too many forking segments). Can we experiment on a wide toll
> plaza? let's see how it renders
>
> +1 if it renders the segments nicely, :-) else lets the delay (for later)
> and use the original 1 center line approach
>
> besides, putting too many forking lanes (tagged as motorway) on wide toll
> plazas may unnecessarily increase the total number of kilometers
> (distorting the actual length) of that particular road; although this can
> be solved by relations.
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Rally de Leon 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer one (1) center line for each group or class (less clutter) eg.
>>> 1 for those prepaid auto-debit lanes, 1 for car/cash, 1 for trucks/PUB;
>>> maybe this can help the lane-assist feature in car navigation.
>>>
>>
>> That would mean 9 lines for Cavitex
>> 1. Cash (Class 1)
>> 2. Exact Toll
>> 3. Cash (any class)
>> 4. EasyDrive
>> 5. E-TAP and EasyDrive
>> 6. E-TAP loading and cash
>> 7. E-TAP and cash
>> 8. Emergency and cash
>> 9. Wide vehicles
>>
>> Theoretically, we can still put information about various toll lanes even
>> with just a single center line using the ":lanes" tagging scheme:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes
>>
>
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[talk-ph] Mapping all lanes of a toll plaza

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello,

Does the community think mapping individual lanes of a toll plaza is best
practice? See the SLEX Nichols Toll Plaza for an example:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/14.51881/121.02819

Personally, I prefer mapping just the center line of the tollway and just
adding the lanes=* tag to it. There's also the proposed area:highway=* tag
(already with rendering support in a 3rd-party map) for mapping the actual
area of the highway:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/area:highway

~Eugene
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapping all lanes of a toll plaza

[Rally de Leon]

I prefer one (1) center line for each group or class (less clutter) eg. 1
for those prepaid auto-debit lanes, 1 for car/cash, 1 for trucks/PUB; maybe
this can help the lane-assist feature in car navigation.



On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Does the community think mapping individual lanes of a toll plaza is best
> practice? See the SLEX Nichols Toll Plaza for an example:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/14.51881/121.02819
>
> Personally, I prefer mapping just the center line of the tollway and just
> adding the lanes=* tag to it. There's also the proposed area:highway=* tag
> (already with rendering support in a 3rd-party map) for mapping the actual
> area of the highway:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/area:highway
>
> ~Eugene
>
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapping all lanes of a toll plaza

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Rally de Leon  wrote:

> I prefer one (1) center line for each group or class (less clutter) eg. 1
> for those prepaid auto-debit lanes, 1 for car/cash, 1 for trucks/PUB; maybe
> this can help the lane-assist feature in car navigation.
>

That would mean 9 lines for Cavitex
1. Cash (Class 1)
2. Exact Toll
3. Cash (any class)
4. EasyDrive
5. E-TAP and EasyDrive
6. E-TAP loading and cash
7. E-TAP and cash
8. Emergency and cash
9. Wide vehicles

Theoretically, we can still put information about various toll lanes even
with just a single center line using the ":lanes" tagging scheme:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapping all lanes of a toll plaza

[Rally de Leon]

...in which case, go for the ":lanes" tagging scheme (but it looks
complicated -- too many forking segments). Can we experiment on a wide toll
plaza? let's see how it renders

+1 if it renders the segments nicely, :-) else lets the delay (for later)
and use the original 1 center line approach

besides, putting too many forking lanes (tagged as motorway) on wide toll
plazas may unnecessarily increase the total number of kilometers
(distorting the actual length) of that particular road; although this can
be solved by relations.

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Rally de Leon  wrote:
>
>> I prefer one (1) center line for each group or class (less clutter) eg. 1
>> for those prepaid auto-debit lanes, 1 for car/cash, 1 for trucks/PUB; maybe
>> this can help the lane-assist feature in car navigation.
>>
>
> That would mean 9 lines for Cavitex
> 1. Cash (Class 1)
> 2. Exact Toll
> 3. Cash (any class)
> 4. EasyDrive
> 5. E-TAP and EasyDrive
> 6. E-TAP loading and cash
> 7. E-TAP and cash
> 8. Emergency and cash
> 9. Wide vehicles
>
> Theoretically, we can still put information about various toll lanes even
> with just a single center line using the ":lanes" tagging scheme:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes
>
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