Re: [Talk-transit] Deleting relations

2009-08-10 Thread Richard Mann
Thanks. I figured it might be the Is it time to confuse myself by trying to
use two different editors scenario.

Richard

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:

  I couldn’t find a way in Potlatch. What I did was:

 a)  In Potlatch add a dummy node to the relation

 b)  Download the area containing the dummy node in JOSM

 c)   Delete the relation in the relations list in JOSM

 d)  Upload changes

 e)  Delete the dummy node (I used Potlatch but could also have used
 JOSM as both were open – I had to refresh Potlatch to be aware of the JOSM
 changes first though).



 I hope you don’t mind me deleting it.



 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/193015



 Ed



 *From:* talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:
 talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] *On Behalf Of *Richard Mann
 *Sent:* 10 August 2009 01:54
 *To:* osm
 *Subject:* [Talk-transit] Deleting relations



 I created a relation 193015 for Pad-Reading infrastructure, not realising
 that someone had already done so. 193015 has no members, but I can't see any
 obvious way of deleting it (in Potlatch). Is it possible?



 Richard

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Re: [Talk-transit] Deleting relations

2009-08-10 Thread Ed Loach
Yes, it does get confusing using two editors. I pressed U in
Potlatch this morning to try and unselect things like I do in JOSM
and suddenly all the deleted ways where I was mapping appeared. I
switched to View and back to Edit to sort out that mistake. But each
has different strengths and I use whichever one I feel most suited
for the task (this morning I used JOSM to follow my trip from
Clacton to Haverhill and back via Catterwade to check the roads were
all aligned to the average of all the public traces (or in the NPE
lanes, that they aligned at all – I also found two lanes that should
have connected to the main road but weren’t). I also used JOSM to
add a sportsground I visited at the weekend as I find it easier to
use to add all the POIs, use Q to orthogonalise rectangles and so
on.

 

But this is off topic. Perhaps I should mention I added two bus
stops (one with shelter) which I’ll probably have to merge when the
import occurs. 

 

Ed

 

From: talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Mann
Sent: 10 August 2009 10:08
To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Deleting relations

 

Thanks. I figured it might be the Is it time to confuse myself by
trying to use two different editors scenario.

 

Richard

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Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

2009-08-10 Thread Cartinus
On Monday 10 August 2009 09:10:15 Jochen Topf wrote:
 The infrastructure route is something different from the moving vehicles
 forming a route. They are two different concepts, so they deserve their
 own keys. A bicycle route or walking route is more like an infrastructure
 route, there are signs on the way. Its a physically existing thing. The
 moving vehicle route (which we called a line) is more ephemeral.

To me signs have nothing to do with infrastructure. For me the infrastructure 
are the roads themselves. So to me a cycleroute is a moving vehicle route.

From this follows that introducing line relations is not consistent at all, 
because then we have a different type of relation for public transport moving 
vehicle routes and private transport moving vehicle routes.

-- 
m.v.g.,
Cartinus

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