Re: [Talk-transit] Summary of Public Transport Proposal Criticism - a real example from Zürich
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Michael von Glasow mich...@vonglasow.com wrote: On 02/03/2011 12:04 PM, Richard Mann wrote: ... something else (railway=tram_station) should go on the centroid as a courtesy tag. I would in fact tend towards using public_transport=stop_position, as suggested by Dominik, given that it's already being used. I don't think public_transport=stop_position is a particularly obvious tag (except as part of a wider scheme), so I'd probably mention both and see which we can persuade people to render. I've been attempting to order a relation using P2 (I don't recommend trying it yourself yet - the process needs streamlining). I managed to sort the nodes in a two-directions-with-loops relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/85299 and got a reasonable line-diagram, once I'd added forward_stop and backward_stop: http://78.46.81.38/api/sketch-route?85299 I think this confirms that line diagrams will work fine with stops beside the way. Richard ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Summary of Public Transport Proposal Criticism - a real example from Zürich
On 02/04/2011 12:09 PM, Richard Mann wrote: I've been attempting to order a relation using P2 (I don't recommend trying it yourself yet - the process needs streamlining). I managed to sort the nodes in a two-directions-with-loops relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/85299 and got a reasonable line-diagram, once I'd added forward_stop and backward_stop: if I may just comment on the relation: I would start and end at the terminus (which seems to be The Oval) - that way the relation represents the longest way a passenger can travel (assuming services don't normally end at some point in the loop), which I think is most intuitive. I would also use stop rather than forward_stop and backward_stop for the roles since the outward and return directions of a spoon route are somewhat hard to tell apart. (Unless one stop in the loop is formally designated as the terminus where services routinely end.) http://78.46.81.38/api/sketch-route?85299 I think this confirms that line diagrams will work fine with stops beside the way. In fact - as I understand it, the tool ignores ways completely and just examines stop members and their order. As far as I know, retrieving the stops of a line on openbusmap works the same way. Michael ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
