Re: [Talk-us] NHD data changes

2012-05-08 Thread James Umbanhowar
On Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:19:36 PM Paul Norman wrote:
 I've been looking at the NHD data from the USGS site and have noticed a few
 recent changes from how they were described on the wiki.
 
 1. The viewer has changed. http://viewer.nationalmap.gov/viewer/nhd.html
 will bring up a map you can use to download NHD data. This viewer does not
 work in Chrome but does work in IE. Subregions are pre-staged downloads,
 the others will take some time before you can download.
 

Firefox also works.

 Subregions can be directly downloaded from
 ftp://nhdftp.usgs.gov/DataSets/Staged/SubRegions/PersonalGDB/HighResolution
 /
 
 Most subregions are available as a new NHD 931v210 file but some are still
 being generated.
 
 2. NHD data is now available only as File Geodatabases (File GDBs, .gdb)
 and Personal Geodatabases (Personal GDBs, .mdb). My understanding is the
 default builds of QuantumGIS and GDAL on Windows can open Personal GDBs.
 
 On linux gdal can be compiled with drv_mdb or the pgeo driver can be used
 for Personal GDBs, or the filegdb driver can be used for File GDBs. This is
 moderately technical.
 

I was able to download a .shp file from the viewer.  It had changes in it date 
in 2012, so I assume that it is current.

James

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Re: [Talk-us] WTF happened to Bing's imagery of Mackinaw City, MI?

2012-05-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/**edit?editor=potlatch2lat=45.**
 78lon=-84.73zoom=16http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch2lat=45.78lon=-84.73zoom=16

 For some reason, the city is blacked out, but the black only extends to
 the shoreline.

 I get the same thing with both Potlatch2 and JOSM.

Clifford
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Re: [Talk-us] WTF happened to Bing's imagery of Mackinaw City, MI?

2012-05-08 Thread James Mast

Wow, this is messed up.  I just took a look @ Google's imagery and it isn't 
blacked out.  Looking at it, I didn't see any reason for it to be blacked 
out.. http://g.co/maps/yxrkg So, it must mean that somebody in Bing is 
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Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-08 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:
 On 5/1/2012 11:49 PM, Anthony wrote:

  That assumes that the TIGER tags will always be present to assist with
   proper automatic expansion.

 I'm not sure what you mean, because I am not making that assumption at
 all.


  You mentioned use of the history to access the TIGER tags.

Yes, I said if a bot is smart enough to go through the history tags,
then this *does* provide an advantage over data consumers doing it
themselves.

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Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-08 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
 2) My human error rate estimation of 1/1000 seems entirely reasonable.
 Think typos, or misreading. I'm sure we see error rates that high now
 in OSM and we find them acceptable. A computer that's acting
 conservatively will actually produce far lower error rates!

But its error rates are potentially much more annoying.  Doctor
Martin Luther King Bolevard is one thing.  Drive Martin Luther King
Boulevard is another.  The latter will be much more difficult to find
at a later date and flag for review.

Maybe you won't make that particular error, but you're going to have
to be really careful to avoid making any errors like it.  And relying
on the TIGER tags may or may not help.  I wouldn't be surprised if
many of the TIGER tags themselves are screwed up, based on the kinds
of mistakes I've seen in TIGER data.

Anthony

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Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-08 Thread Anthony
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
 Doctor Martin Luther King Bolevard is one thing.  Drive Martin Luther King
 Boulevard is another.

And if we're going to make so many mistakes (1/1000 means thousands of
mistakes), I'd rather it just be left as Dr Martin Luther King Blvd.

Yes, we can't stop people from making mistakes.  But we can refuse to
allow thousands of mistakes to be added, for the sake of removing
abbreviations which aren't hurting anyone in the first place.

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