Re: [Talk-us] State ref tags on ways: Use of unique ISO/ANSI/USPS 2-letter state codes in RELATIONS as well as WAYS?
On 16:04 2014-03-11, Peter Davies wrote: I thought I would make my proposal stand out a bit more by adding words to the title. :-O There are some weird things, like Nebraska's state law that requires NDOR to have a state road link to every community of a 100 people or more. I've changed some Link 80F ref tags to NE 80F Link and Spur nnX tags to NE nnX Spur without having time to do the whole state. AZ has its Loop 101 and Loop 202 freeways for which I would advocate refs AZ Loop 101 and AZ Loop 202. Texas also has many weird qualifiers on minor state routes but as I've never contracted there for 511 I'm not totally familiar with them. Peter As others have mentioned, we already use unique two-letter state abbreviations as part of relations' network tags. I created a bunch of network=US:OH:LOG:Zane route relations last night (Zane Twp., Logan Co.) and I'm intent on keeping the ways' ref tags a bit shorter than that. For all I know, Ohio's DOT could be an outlier, but they use SR 123 notation exclusively, including on variable message signs [1] and at their traffic website OHGO [2]. I've firmly of the opinion that ways' ref tags should not always be considered uniquely identifiable. For something like a traffic reporting application, ways' ref tags should be at most a fallback in the absence of route relations. On the other hand, less qualified refs may be more useful in narrated directions: Turn left at Link 80F would be preferable to Turn left at NE 80F Link. Why bother telling me what state I'm in as I approach the intersection? It's unnecessary to cram more qualifiers and a rigid syntax into a single field when our data model has much more appropriate facilities for this information. Insisting on uniformity on ways' ref tags only invites data consumers to make poor assumptions. There's a CA 50 in Cantabria, Spain, after all. [3] That said, I don't find a particularly strong case for leaving bare numbers in ways' ref tags. At least stevea's example of California county routes does already include a network identifier (the G in G2). [1] https://www.dot.state.oh.us/Divisions/Operations/Traffic/FAQs/PublishingImages/DMS_Carillon.jpg [2] http://www.ohgo.com/ [3] http://osm.org/way/4843509#layers=Q -- m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] new regional mailing list: talk-us-newyork
a new regional mailing list has been set up for discussions of mapping in New York State: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us-newyork i hope to see some NY mappers there in the near future. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] FW: Report of Explosion, Building Collapse in Manhattan
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Russell Deffner russdeff...@gmail.comwrote: Anyone want to individually figure out the building and update in OSM? Did it in this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21065388 Buildings: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/265792217 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/265792216 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] FW: Report of Explosion, Building Collapse in Manhattan
I saw smoke from my apartment, but I was going to wait to go over there until the smoke cleared and they'd handled any hazards. - Serge On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Russell Deffner russdeff...@gmail.comwrote: Anyone want to individually figure out the building and update in OSM? =Russ Russell Deffner russell.deff...@hotosm.org The Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ *Feed:* NBC News Top Stories *Posted on:* Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:52 AM *Author:* NBC News Top Stories *Subject:* Report of Explosion, Building Collapse in Manhattan Authorities are responding to reports of an explosion and collapse in Manhattan. http://share.feedsportal.com/share/twitter/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fnews%2Fus-news%2Freport-explosion-building-collapse-manhattan-n50786t=Report+of+Explosion%2C+Building+Collapse+in+Manhattan http://share.feedsportal.com/share/facebook/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fnews%2Fus-news%2Freport-explosion-building-collapse-manhattan-n50786t=Report+of+Explosion%2C+Building+Collapse+in+Manhattan http://share.feedsportal.com/share/linkedin/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fnews%2Fus-news%2Freport-explosion-building-collapse-manhattan-n50786t=Report+of+Explosion%2C+Building+Collapse+in+Manhattan http://share.feedsportal.com/share/gplus/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fnews%2Fus-news%2Freport-explosion-building-collapse-manhattan-n50786t=Report+of+Explosion%2C+Building+Collapse+in+Manhattan http://share.feedsportal.com/share/email/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fnews%2Fus-news%2Freport-explosion-building-collapse-manhattan-n50786t=Report+of+Explosion%2C+Building+Collapse+in+Manhattan http://da.feedsportal.com/r/191801213722/u/191/f/663303/c/35002/s/38174c0c/sc/20/rc/1/rc.htm http://da.feedsportal.com/r/191801213722/u/191/f/663303/c/35002/s/38174c0c/sc/20/rc/2/rc.htm http://da.feedsportal.com/r/191801213722/u/191/f/663303/c/35002/s/38174c0c/sc/20/rc/3/rc.htm http://da.feedsportal.com/r/191801213722/u/191/f/663303/c/35002/s/38174c0c/a2.htm View article...http://feeds.nbcnews.com/c/35002/f/663303/s/38174c0c/sc/20/l/0L0Snbcnews0N0Cnews0Cus0Enews0Creport0Eexplosion0Ebuilding0Ecollapse0Emanhattan0En50A786/story01.htm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] FW: Report of Explosion, Building Collapse in Manhattan
Ian, are you going to manually survey the location to see if there's any secondary damage? - Serge On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Russell Deffner russdeff...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone want to individually figure out the building and update in OSM? Did it in this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21065388 Buildings: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/265792217 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/265792216 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] FW: Report of Explosion, Building Collapse in Manhattan
Just dropping the global HOT community from the thread; please continue amongst yourselves... and reach out to me or HOT if needed. =Russ -Original Message- From: Serge Wroclawski [mailto:emac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:18 AM To: Ian Dees Cc: Russell Deffner; hot; OSM US Talk Subject: Re: [Talk-us] FW: Report of Explosion, Building Collapse in Manhattan Ian, are you going to manually survey the location to see if there's any secondary damage? - Serge On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Russell Deffner russdeff...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone want to individually figure out the building and update in OSM? Did it in this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21065388 Buildings: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/265792217 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/265792216 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Event Invite: Intro to Openstreetmap March 29 Lawrence Creates On March 29 at 18:00-21:00
Intro to Openstreetmap March 29 Lawrence Creates On March 29 at 18:00-21:00 at Lawrence Creates we will be organizing a intro to openstreetmap.org Location https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2480338498 512 E 9th St. (9th and NJ), Lawrence, KS 66044-66044 Lawrence United States of America All are welcome. https://sites.google.com/site/flosokaks/events/introtoopenstreetmapmarch29lawrencecreates Any experienced OSM editors to help mentor would be great to have. -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://www.flossk.org Saving Wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
