[Talk-us] Peculiar values for natural key in California
I have just been looking through the long tail of natural values and natural=K2156 stuck out like a sore thumb. These seem all to be nodes imported around 2009 roughly around Salinas : http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9hM. I'd appreciate if someone more local could take a look at these and sort them out. Jerry Clough___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New York, Ellis Island Boundary
This is correct, the island is part of NY, but the water is part of NJ, when they made the island bigger, the new land was in NJ. Similar to how Delaware has the entire Delaware Bay in its boundaries. They added some fill to the NJ side, and now there's a piece of Delaware connected to New Jersey: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/39.6142/-75.5635 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finns_Point On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Luis Villa l...@lu.is wrote: Possibly useful context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_v._New_York On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:30 AM Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 5/10/15 11:57 AM, Richard Welty wrote: On 5/10/15 11:31 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, puzzled about http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37573502#map=18/40.69986/-74.03910 is this really part of today's political boundary, then (historical) should perhaps be removed from the name. And is there any significance to the funny shape (an owl sitting on a branch?) or should it rather be aligned with the coastline? this looks like a carve out, a tiny enclave of NYS/NYC surrounded by New Jersey. i'll look at the newer TIGER data in a little bit and see what i can see there. now that i have thought about it, Ellis Island is mostly fill. the political boundary likely matches the original waterline of the island and it was simply never changed. as it was operated by the Federal government, there was probably little motivation to do so. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New York, Ellis Island Boundary
Hi, On 05/10/2015 06:35 PM, Luis Villa wrote: Possibly useful context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_v._New_York That's one of the things that makes me love this hobby/profession so much. Quirks! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] NYC High Line is Wonky on OSM
Friends, I was attempting to do some pedestrian routing on the High Line (the elevated park in NYC, see Wikipedia for background) and noticed some oddities about how it was mapped on OSM. Quickly, this is a former elevated train viaduct that has been converted into a popular park in Manhattan. Since this is a popular area, I thought I'd ask the community first. Things I've noticed: 1. There is a 'building=yes' way for the entire elevated portion, including many of the supports that hold the platform up. This is pretty cool, and probably looks neat in 3D. There are some building overlaps, where the line goes through some buildings. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37054313 1a. The building also has the park tagging, which doesn't show up on the map when tagged to the same way (apparently). 2. There are two parallel ways on the northern part of the park, one for the former railway, another for the path. I believe that these should be merged or at least share points. The former railway IS the pedestrian path, so no need for parallel ways, right? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/46481094 2a. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/305761607 3. Stairs like this should connect to the street. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/305761606 4. The 'highway=pedestrian' portion is not tagged as a bridge, which it is, arguably. But then, if the viaduct is a 'building', is it actually a bridge? I think it should be tagged as a bridge for cartography purposes. 4a. The 'highway=pedestrian' way does not have a name. The building does, but that doesn't render well. Named ways should be named, right? 5. There are several 'highway=pedestrian' areas like this one. Is there a better tag for open space like this? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/277945794 6. Things get really crazy with the building passages. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/277885773 7. There are a few oddities about the paths extending out from this node, all these crossing ways are hard to comprehend. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2823299563 Local mappers have clearly spent a lot of time on this, anyone have any feedback about how this could be mapped better, if at all? Best, Elliott ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Duplicate nodes in Delaware
Hi, On 05/12/2015 12:57 AM, Paul Norman wrote: This is currently being reverted. It may take some time, given the size of the changesets. Reverted in changesets 31020612, 31021138, 31022607, 31022118, 31021597, 31022951. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New York, Ellis Island Boundary
On 5/11/15 11:55 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: I agree, the historical boundary should be removed, but we need to be sure to show what's in what state. It's quite a little mess. i think the only problem is that the word historical is there. deleting the tags on the way would be sufficient. the way itself is shared by a lot of boundary relations and should not be removed. i have it loaded up in JOSM right now, but will refrain from uploading changes for the moment. i'll pull the trigger if there is a consensus. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New York, Ellis Island Boundary
I agree, the historical boundary should be removed, but we need to be sure to show what's in what state. It's quite a little mess. - Serge On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, puzzled about http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37573502#map=18/40.69986/-74.03910 is this really part of today's political boundary, then (historical) should perhaps be removed from the name. And is there any significance to the funny shape (an owl sitting on a branch?) or should it rather be aligned with the coastline? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Peculiar values for natural key in California
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:17 AM, Jerry Clough - OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I have just been looking through the long tail of natural values and natural=K2156 stuck out like a sore thumb. These seem all to be nodes imported around 2009 roughly around Salinas : http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9hM. That's a Tiger feature class of Government Center. http://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/data/tiger/tgrshp2009/TGRSHP09AF.pdf http://taginfo.openstreetmap.com/search?q=K2165#values It's a bad import, but a small one. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
