[Talk-us] Southern California mappers plan to map island

[Jonathan Schleuss]

Hey gang,

We're having our own little Isle of Wight on Santa Catalina Island later this 
month.

Right now we have 32 folks saying they'll attend a weekend mapping/Mapillary 
adventure to the island which is about an hour's ferry ride from Los Angeles. I 
expect closer to 20 will actually go.

Any one have suggestions beyond what's planned?

Most buildings have already been imported through the L.A. County Building 
Import. And I recently imported the 1,100 addresses so that we could verify 
them on the ground.

What's currently planned:

- Address cleanup/businesses: About 1,100 addresses need to be verified. 
Several more need to be added. All those imported in Avalon got a 
maptimela:reviewed=no tag for verification. Will need to make sure teams work 
on separate streets. (maybe this should be split in two?) Move address points 
to main entrance of structure (or entrance associated with address).
- Botanic garden: Add plants and trails using mobile apps or paper maps
- Mapillary: Will need to divide up city to add to Mapillary. Will have five 
360 cameras.
- Fire hydrant check: could be imported and verified during the trip.
- Benches, waste bins, ATMs, pay phones, bike parking, drinking fountains, 
decorative water fountains: is this too menial?
- Trees: again, too menial? Could get into species and type depending on 
group's knowledge. Might be handy for the city government.
- Historical monuments: hoping for a list of important places from the island's 
museum.
- Tourist attractions: could be culled from the list on OSM wiki...but may 
interfere with the business or historical group
- Verify/coding/central command: could be stationed at the campground to watch 
edits and provide a second set of eyes for verification

Here's the event page:
http://www.meetup.com/MaptimeLA/events/233538372/

We also have a draft of a sticker. Any thoughts? 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295925/catalina-map-camping-sticker.png

Suggestions and ideas are welcome.

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Re: [Talk-us] San Louis Obispo CA area - Chimney Wildfire - OSM US Tasking Manager Project

[Jonathan Schleuss]

Mike and all,

Great questions! I'll let Blake answer the other question, but I figured I 
could chime in on the first, since I was about to message the group anyway.

We've got another series of tasks [1] to improve roads near the Blue Cut fire 
[2], which has caused the evacuation of more than 80,000 people. A lot of the 
area has roads mostly untouched since the 2007 TIGER data was added. Several 
still have the tiger:reviewed=no tag.

Blake was very kind to add another series of task for this new fire. Please 
jump in if you're available. I can not promise that the data will be 
immediately used, but we at the Los Angeles Times are making a lot of maps of 
the region (mostly zoomed out). [3] Since the fire is quite bad we may 
eventually locate areas severely damaged or destroyed by the fire. An improved 
map is invaluable. This is also a good example of a crowd-sourced quickly fixed 
map for emergencies in the U.S.

Thanks to everyone who edited and validated near the Chimney wildfire!

Please don't hesitate to ask if you have more questions.

cheers,
Jon Schleuss

[1] http://tasks.openstreetmap.us/project/61
[2] http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/4962/
[3] 
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-updates-wildfire-season-where-is-the-blue-cut-fire-1471382347-htmlstory.html



On Aug 17, 2016, at 08:36 PM, Mike Thompson  wrote:

Blake,

It is great to see OSM being used in disaster response within the US.  

1) Will there be more such tasks, either associated with this fire, or with 
other events?
2) Are there other cases where OSM has been used like this in the US? I am 
scheduled to give a talk about OSM to the Wyoming GIS Conference and it would 
be great to cite some additional such examples.

Mike

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:41 AM, OSM Volunteer stevea 
 wrote:
Thank you for setting this up, Blake.  I've never done a HOT task before, and 
since this is my backyard, I dove right in.  And it was FUN!  (BTW, it is San 
Luis Obispo).

A couple/three years ago I made contact with Joe Larson, a SLO-county based 
firefighter and OSM volunteer who used County GIS data to add all buildings 
(and most if not all associated address data) to SLO.  He and his team also 
completed TIGER updating of roads.  (These are still not perfect, as many roads 
are tagged tiger:reviewed=yes, which is superfluous and can be deleted).  Way 
to go!

But as is true of any fire:  it's great to be prepared!  (Good maps with excellent road 
and building data).  Smart to add swimming pools, too.  In the half-dozen or so tasks I 
did, I also added some small (sub-1-acre) natural=water "ponds" which were 
usually at the confluence of two small streams.  With the drought, I'm not sure they are 
there, though.  The imagery layer used here is excellent, especially at very high zooms.

Good work, everybody, now all we need to do is finish validation.

SteveA
California


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Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Kansas City addresses from maps.kcmo.org

[Jonathan Schleuss]

Hi,

I'm kind of curious about this. Why not import those property lines? I'm not 
arguing for them, because it seems like a lot of work. But I note that in 
cities such as Fresno, they are in the map as landuse=residential. What if we 
add all the buildings, all the trees, every bench? Why not add property 
boundaries? I'm thinking 2030 here.

cheers,
Jon

On Jul 29, 2016, at 03:04 PM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:

Hi,

On 07/29/2016 03:42 AM, Clifford Snow wrote:
Thanks for pointing out my lapse. You are correct. I've used parcel
boundaries for parks a number of time.

Nonetheless (in order not to confuse the original poster) let's
reiterate that property lines themselves do not belong in OSM; only
where they can be used to deduce the bounds of something we *do* want in
OSM will they find their way into the database. We will not map
individual property lines in e.g. a residential neighbourhood (much less
import them).

Bye
Frederik

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[Talk-us] Way to message a bunch of users at once?

[Jonathan Schleuss]

Hi all,

Is there a way to email multiple users at once? Prior to each local event I 
copy/paste a markdown file into openstreetmap.org over and over again to 
contact local mappers. It would save me so much time to email them all at once. 
Is there anyway to do that? Or does anyone have tips for other local organizers?

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Re: [Talk-us] Join us for another import party at the L.A. Times June 25

[Jonathan Schleuss]

Sorry if this is duplication: didn't know if my last email went through.

On Jun 30, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Michael Reichert <naka...@gmx.net> wrote:

Hi,

Am Fri, 17 Jun 2016 22:20:46 + schrieb Jonathan Schleuss:
The Los Angeles Times will host another import party to push the "Great
L.A. County Import" forward. We've imported more than half a million
buildings with the great help of locals and the folks from Mapbox.

Did each participant use a separate account for this import?

Yes. We have some users who didn't have a separate account, but most are here:
https://github.com/osmlab/labuildings/issues/40
And inside the "stats" pages under each HOT task here: 
http://labuildingsimport.com
 


My focus is to use this import strengthen the Southern California OSM
community. But, the project is open to all. If you're in the area,
please join us.

Do you really believe that this helps the local community? A healthy map 
has a strong community and a strong community consists out of people who 
look after their neighbourhood on the map (i.e. keep data up to date).


I do. I've hosted four import events and reached out to a ton of local editors. 
Work still needs to be done. Let me know if you have suggestions on how to 
strengthen the community further.
 


Meetup even page Import guidelines Tasking manager I've also been
working to improve our language on why we're doing this. Feedback and
more ideas would be greatly appreciated!

Why are we doing this?

• To improve our map! More data will allow more users to create projects
and do analysis on a variety of things. How many units are located
within 1,000 feet of a freeway? What's the average building age in a
neighborhood? What's the tallest building on Sunset Boulevard? The data
will tell you.

• To catch up with other cities! New York has buildings. Seattle has
buildings. San Francisco. Portland. Even Bakersfield has buildings. L.A.
County should too!

• Because a big earthquake is coming. Free and open data will assist
first responders. And later it will allow folks to update the buildings
with tags showing whether they have been destroyed, are dangerous or
have been red-tagged.

Why do buildings have to be at OSM? Is there any problem which prevents 
you and others to use a free-licensed third party source for building 
data if you have/want to create an emergency map?


No problems. The buildings will improve the map and will allow a redudant and 
maybe better supply of data in the event of a major disaster. For instance, if 
Los Angeles is hit with a large earthquake, will the county's GIS servers be 
available? Will there be power. Many unknowns here and crowd-sourcing the 
disaster's effects seems like a good move. Then anyone can download and make 
their own custom map. For instance, I could update my neighborhood with 
services and distribute printed maps if power/internet is out. Buildings will 
improve a block-by-block map.
 


• To encourage more edits. Once buildings are in the map, people will be
able to orient themselves to the shapes, making it easier to add more
data, like names or businesses.

Adding POIs also works without buildings on the map. You still have 
aerial imagery (i.e. Bing). Apart from offline editors like OsmAnd and 
MAPS.ME, you have an aerial image available at all those editors.


Yes, true. And Los Angles loves the strip mall, which is one building with many 
POIs. We're looking at importing active businesses and other items here: 
https://github.com/socal-osm

Thanks for comments, Michael.

Jon
 


Best regards

Michael


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Re: [Talk-us] Join us for another import party at the L.A. Times June 25

[Jonathan Schleuss]

Thanks, Robert.

I do have some structural information about some types of earthquake-risk buildings. We 
have a database of "dingbats" that Los Angeles city is mandating be retrofitted 
or proved safe over the next few years. These are apartment buildings with parking 
underneath the dwelling spaces, which are supported by small poles. A lot of these 
collapsed during the last major quake in the 90s.

Adding this has come up in meetings before. I haven't spent too much time 
thinking about it. I'd love any ideas and suggestions.

Database: http://graphics.latimes.com/soft-story-apartments-needing-retrofit/
Story: 
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-quake-risk-20160415-story.html
New github repo to track this idea: https://github.com/socal-osm/earthquake-risk

Jon

On Jun 30, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Jonathon,

This looks great, it’s fantastic to see the LA Times leading on this work. 
Adding buildings to LA is super cool. Having grown up in suburbanized Atlanta I 
know it’s a lot harder to wander about and add buildings than in, say, New York 
or Berlin. 

Quick question: do you all have any structural information about the buildings 
related to earthquake safety? If so I’d be interested in what tagging schema 
you’re using for them. I work with OSM for disaster management in my day job so 
I’m always keeping an eye out for good ideas from others.

Keep it up and don’t let the usual import haters get you down.

- Robert


On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:37 PM Rihards <ric...@nakts.net> wrote:
On 2016.06.30. 17:58, Michael Reichert wrote:

Hi,

Am Fri, 17 Jun 2016 22:20:46 + schrieb Jonathan Schleuss:

The Los Angeles Times will host another import party to push the "Great
L.A. County Import" forward. We've imported more than half a million
buildings with the great help of locals and the folks from Mapbox.


Did each participant use a separate account for this import?


My focus is to use this import strengthen the Southern California OSM
community. But, the project is open to all. If you're in the area,
please join us.


Do you really believe that this helps the local community? A healthy map
has a strong community and a strong community consists out of people who
look after their neighbourhood on the map (i.e. keep data up to date).


a good import motivates local mappers. when they see that the map is
kinda there but a pub, shop or housenumber is missing, it easier for
them to start.
if they see blank area, they go "why bother".
building outlines are very hard to collect for amateur mappers, and it
is a large amount of work even with good sources.

i'd like to say thank you to everybody who has done a proper, careful
building import (no overlaps with existing buildings, no nodes on
straight sections, orthogonalised etc :) ) - i know it was a lot of work.
...
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[Talk-us] What should we do for wildfires?

[Jonathan Schleuss]

The Erskine Fire [1] has burned more than 46,000 acres and killed two. It 
destroyed 200 structures. The perimeter of the fire is huge. 

What's the right response from OpenStreetMap?

Should we go in and check roads? Add buildings? What if they've been destroyed? 
Addresses? Shelters? Other items? Is this more a role for the HOT group? I checked the 
talk-us archives, but didn't find a lot of "wildfire" discussion and I'd love 
to know what you all think is an appropriate response. There's some good background on 
the 2013 Colorado Wildfire Season [3]. There's also a preemptive take with Portuguese 
Wildfire Mapping [4]. We could probably find places inside the U.S. that are at a high 
risk and task those areas out. California has a shapefile. [5] 

I figured I'd open it up for discussion. Please reply with your thoughts.

cheers,
Jon Schleuss

I'm a reporter and graphic artist at the Los Angeles Times. I got into 
OpenStreetMap about a year ago thanks to at MaptimeLA event taught by techlady 
and Data411. I use maps in my work almost every day. Currently, hacking on the 
Great L.A. County Building Import [5].

[1] http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/4806/
[2] http://www.fire.ca.gov/fire_prevention/fire_prevention_wildland_statewide
[3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2013_Colorado_Wildfire_Season
[4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Portuguese_Wildfire_Mapping
[5] http://labuildingsimport.com/

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[Talk-us] Join us for another import party at the L.A. Times June 25

[Jonathan Schleuss]

Hi all,

The Los Angeles Times will host another import party to push the "Great L.A. County 
Import" forward. We've imported more than half a million buildings with the great 
help of locals and the folks from Mapbox. 

My focus is to use this import strengthen the Southern California OSM 
community. But, the project is open to all. If you're in the area, please join 
us. 

Meetup even page
Import guidelines
Tasking manager
I've also been working to improve our language on why we're doing this. 
Feedback and more ideas would be greatly appreciated!

Why are we doing this?

• To improve our map! More data will allow more users to create projects and do 
analysis on a variety of things. How many units are located within 1,000 feet 
of a freeway? What's the average building age in a neighborhood? What's the 
tallest building on Sunset Boulevard? The data will tell you.

• To catch up with other cities! New York has buildings. Seattle has buildings. 
San Francisco. Portland. Even Bakersfield has buildings. L.A. County should 
too! 

• Because a big earthquake is coming. Free and open data will assist first 
responders. And later it will allow folks to update the buildings with tags 
showing whether they have been destroyed, are dangerous or have been red-tagged.

• To improve the Los Angeles Times maps. The Times has been using and 
contributing to OpenStreetmap for the last four years. A large portion of their 
interactive web maps are based on the Quiet LA tiles. And the Times has used 
OSM data to do a lot of maps, including more than 500 maps printed in the 
newspaper (with an OSM credit, of course).

• To encourage more edits. Once buildings are in the map, people will be able 
to orient themselves to the shapes, making it easier to add more data, like 
names or businesses.

cheers,

Jon Schleuss



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