Re: [Talk-us] Anyone want to team up to work on Austin, Texas (was LA and other license changeover challenged areas)
On 3 February 2012 06:00, Toby Murray wrote: > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: >> On 2 February 2012 19:28, Martijn van Exel wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:02 AM, andrzej zaborowski >>> wrote: On 31 January 2012 18:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > Looks like about 4% of Austin was balrog-kun; I'm in the process of > tagging > that odbl=clean right now per his previous request. I don't believe I made any non-automatic edits in TX, and those are already considered clean by the license plugins. Note also that if you use odbl=clean you need to make sure other edits in the history are ODbL-clean and as far as I know there's no general way to do that. >>> >>> Are they also considered clean on >>> http://odbl.poole.ch/usa-20111208-20120201-poly.html ? There's still a >>> whole lot of 'dirty' edits by you on there. >> >> 82k ways, so yes, looks like some of the name expansion changesets are >> still counted dirty. Simon Poole mentioned on IRC something may be a >> little off in his latest stats. > > Well I just found 8 TIGER name expansion changesets that have a total > of ~113,000 ways in them and weren't listed on the changeset override > page because they didn't have the bot=yes tag. Technically some of these are 100% manual edits. Cheers ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Anyone want to team up to work on Austin, Texas (was LA and other license changeover challenged areas)
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > On 2 February 2012 19:28, Martijn van Exel wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:02 AM, andrzej zaborowski >> wrote: >>> On 31 January 2012 18:51, Paul Johnson wrote: Looks like about 4% of Austin was balrog-kun; I'm in the process of tagging that odbl=clean right now per his previous request. >>> >>> I don't believe I made any non-automatic edits in TX, and those are >>> already considered clean by the license plugins. >>> >>> Note also that if you use odbl=clean you need to make sure other edits >>> in the history are ODbL-clean and as far as I know there's no general >>> way to do that. >>> >> >> Are they also considered clean on >> http://odbl.poole.ch/usa-20111208-20120201-poly.html ? There's still a >> whole lot of 'dirty' edits by you on there. > > 82k ways, so yes, looks like some of the name expansion changesets are > still counted dirty. Simon Poole mentioned on IRC something may be a > little off in his latest stats. Well I just found 8 TIGER name expansion changesets that have a total of ~113,000 ways in them and weren't listed on the changeset override page because they didn't have the bot=yes tag. I have added them: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quick_History_Service/Changeset_Lists#balrog-kun_bot_edits_with_missing_bot_tag Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Anyone want to team up to work on Austin, Texas (was LA and other license changeover challenged areas)
On 2 February 2012 19:28, Martijn van Exel wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:02 AM, andrzej zaborowski > wrote: >> On 31 January 2012 18:51, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Looks like about 4% of Austin was balrog-kun; I'm in the process of tagging >>> that odbl=clean right now per his previous request. >> >> I don't believe I made any non-automatic edits in TX, and those are >> already considered clean by the license plugins. >> >> Note also that if you use odbl=clean you need to make sure other edits >> in the history are ODbL-clean and as far as I know there's no general >> way to do that. >> > > Are they also considered clean on > http://odbl.poole.ch/usa-20111208-20120201-poly.html ? There's still a > whole lot of 'dirty' edits by you on there. 82k ways, so yes, looks like some of the name expansion changesets are still counted dirty. Simon Poole mentioned on IRC something may be a little off in his latest stats. > If they're not and they > should be, what can we do to have this page reflect reality better? I'm afraid there's a whole lot that can be done to make it reflect reality better. For starters the page mentions ODbL in the first line while in fact the stats are based on CT-accpetance which is largely orthogonal to ODbL compatibility. Accepting current CT version only confirms to osmf that the data you uploaded is compatible with the current license. You can't derive ODbL-compatibility from that alone. Cheers ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Anyone want to team up to work on Austin, Texas (was LA and other license changeover challenged areas)
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:02 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > On 31 January 2012 18:51, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Looks like about 4% of Austin was balrog-kun; I'm in the process of tagging >> that odbl=clean right now per his previous request. > > I don't believe I made any non-automatic edits in TX, and those are > already considered clean by the license plugins. > > Note also that if you use odbl=clean you need to make sure other edits > in the history are ODbL-clean and as far as I know there's no general > way to do that. > Are they also considered clean on http://odbl.poole.ch/usa-20111208-20120201-poly.html ? There's still a whole lot of 'dirty' edits by you on there. If they're not and they should be, what can we do to have this page reflect reality better? Best, -- martijn van exel geospatial omnivore 1109 1st ave #2 salt lake city, ut 84103 801-550-5815 http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Anyone want to team up to work on Austin, Texas (was LA and other license changeover challenged areas)
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Toby Murray wrote: >> Well I'm making my way down I-35 from Dallas to Waco right now, >> processing data I collected over Christmas and license cleaning at the >> same time. I would be happy to keep going and do some license cleaning >> on down to Austin, especially on the interstates. The city itself is >> indeed a pretty big mess :( Looks like mostly one user who has >> explicitly declined. > > > Looks like about 4% of Austin was balrog-kun; I'm in the process of tagging > that odbl=clean right now per his previous request. hmm? All of balrog-kun's name expansion edits are already considered clean by license tools. There is no need to tag them as odbl=clean. If one of the changesets got missed, it should be reported. Are you sure balrog-kun wasn't just the *last* editor and david lynch is the one making the object dirty? Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Anyone want to team up to work on Austin, Texas (was LA and other license changeover challenged areas)
On 31 January 2012 18:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > Looks like about 4% of Austin was balrog-kun; I'm in the process of tagging > that odbl=clean right now per his previous request. I don't believe I made any non-automatic edits in TX, and those are already considered clean by the license plugins. Note also that if you use odbl=clean you need to make sure other edits in the history are ODbL-clean and as far as I know there's no general way to do that. Cheers ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Anyone want to team up to work on Austin, Texas (was LA and other license changeover challenged areas)
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Toby Murray wrote: > > Well I'm making my way down I-35 from Dallas to Waco right now, > processing data I collected over Christmas and license cleaning at the > same time. I would be happy to keep going and do some license cleaning > on down to Austin, especially on the interstates. The city itself is > indeed a pretty big mess :( Looks like mostly one user who has > explicitly declined. Looks like about 4% of Austin was balrog-kun; I'm in the process of tagging that odbl=clean right now per his previous request. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Anyone want to team up to work on Austin, Texas (was LA and other license changeover challenged areas)
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Thea Aldrich wrote: > Hey Ya'll, > Does anyone want to work together to fix up Austin, Texas? I know the city > like the back of my hand (I grew up there, went to UT, etc) but there is too > much work for one person... > Thea Well I'm making my way down I-35 from Dallas to Waco right now, processing data I collected over Christmas and license cleaning at the same time. I would be happy to keep going and do some license cleaning on down to Austin, especially on the interstates. The city itself is indeed a pretty big mess :( Looks like mostly one user who has explicitly declined. Tonight I already remapped a bunch of nodes on a creek through the city. The way was clean, just a bunch of dirty nodes. Anyway, I'm wondering if places like this might be candidates for TIGER re-imports? The problem of course being that we don't really have easy to use tools to replace data in place. I just tried converting Travis county to .osm using the tag translation that Phil Gold talked about back in January. Unfortunately ogr2osm is kind of messy in some places since it creates relations and overlapping ways , particularly for highway routes but also for other random roads. So I'm not sure if this is the best way to do it. If someone wants to take a look, feel free. And feel free to remap things in Austin from it to help Thea out! Beware that this is a somewhat large file (20 MB) and JOSM will want a lot of memory to open it and it will still be slow to render if you are zoomed out very far. Turning on wireframe mode will help with rendering. http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/travis_tx.osm I will look at it some more and hopefully do some remapping myself but my time is somewhat limited. Toby Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Anyone want to team up to work on Austin, Texas (was LA and other license changeover challenged areas)
Hey Ya'll, Does anyone want to work together to fix up Austin, Texas? I know the city like the back of my hand (I grew up there, went to UT, etc) but there is too much work for one person... Thea ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
