Re: [Talk-us] Fixing shorelines

2012-12-14 Thread Phil! Gold
* Eric H. Christensen e...@christensenplace.us [2012-12-13 21:54 -0500]:
 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 02:23:52PM -0500, Phil! Gold wrote:
  If you use JOSM, the ContourMerge plugin is very helpful here.
 
 Thanks for the advice.  I've tried that technique and it seems to have
 done what I wanted but I'm withholding judgment until I actually see the
 results on the website.

That might take a while.  The data used to render coastlines is generated
irregularly on approximately a monthly basis.  You can take a look at an
area a little ways north where I've done the same thing:
http://osm.org/go/ZZfHNr1i .

 I've not been very impressed by the TIGER roadway data in my little town

Yeah.  The TIGER data for Anne Arundel County was really horrid at the
time of the import.  I've cleaned up a bunch of it in the northwest corner
of the county (areas near BWI, Fort Meade, and Laurel), but there's a lot
left to do.

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Re: [Talk-us] Fixing shorelines

2012-12-14 Thread Phil! Gold
* Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org [2012-12-13 12:58 -0800]:
 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
  I use tilestache to go between
  JOSM's tile underlays and the ArcGIS REST interface).
 
 Do you have a pointer to any docs of how to do this?

It's pretty simple.  You use tilestache's URL template provider to proxy
requests to the REST server.  It works as long as the server supports the
web mercator projection, which might be under any of the SRIDs 900913,
102113, 102100, 3785, or 3857.  (The last is the current official code
from EPSG.)  Here's what I use for Anne Arundel County's orthoimagery:

{
  layers: {
AAOrtho2010: {
  provider: {
name: url template,
template: 
http://gis-world.aacounty.org/ArcGIS/rest/services/Ortho2010/MapServer/export?f=imagebboxSR=102113bbox=$xmin,$ymin,$xmax,$ymaxsize=$width,$heightformat=png24;
  },
  preview: {
lat: 38.974,
lon: -76.595,
zoom: 10
  }
}
  }
}

For their vector-based data, I add `transparent=true` so I can overlay it
on aerial imagery:

AABasemap: {
  provider: {
name: url template,
template: 
http://gis-world.aacounty.org/ArcGIS/rest/services/Basemap/MapServer/export?f=imagebboxSR=102113imageSR=102113transparent=truebbox=$xmin,$ymin,$xmax,$ymaxsize=$width,$heightformat=png;
  },
}

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Re: [Talk-us] Fixing shorelines

2012-12-14 Thread Jeff Meyer
Muchas gracias!


On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:

 * Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org [2012-12-13 12:58 -0800]:
  On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
   I use tilestache to go between
   JOSM's tile underlays and the ArcGIS REST interface).
 
  Do you have a pointer to any docs of how to do this?

 It's pretty simple.  You use tilestache's URL template provider to proxy
 requests to the REST server.  It works as long as the server supports the
 web mercator projection, which might be under any of the SRIDs 900913,
 102113, 102100, 3785, or 3857.  (The last is the current official code
 from EPSG.)  Here's what I use for Anne Arundel County's orthoimagery:

 {
   layers: {
 AAOrtho2010: {
   provider: {
 name: url template,
 template: 
 http://gis-world.aacounty.org/ArcGIS/rest/services/Ortho2010/MapServer/export?f=imagebboxSR=102113bbox=$xmin,$ymin,$xmax,$ymaxsize=$width,$heightformat=png24
 
   },
   preview: {
 lat: 38.974,
 lon: -76.595,
 zoom: 10
   }
 }
   }
 }

 For their vector-based data, I add `transparent=true` so I can overlay it
 on aerial imagery:

 AABasemap: {
   provider: {
 name: url template,
 template: 
 http://gis-world.aacounty.org/ArcGIS/rest/services/Basemap/MapServer/export?f=imagebboxSR=102113imageSR=102113transparent=truebbox=$xmin,$ymin,$xmax,$ymaxsize=$width,$heightformat=png
 
   },
 }

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Re: [Talk-us] Fixing shorelines

2012-12-13 Thread Josh Doe
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Eric H. Christensen 
e...@christensenplace.us wrote:

 I just moved to the Deale, Maryland area and am working on cleaning up the
 Tiger data and mapping as many POI as I can.  I found that the shoreline
 here, though, is very rough.  Along the Chesapeake Bay the TIGER/LineĀ® 2008
 Place Shapefiles appears to outline the separation of water and land quite
 well but is labeled as an administrative boundary.  The water boundary is
 sourced from PGS and does a good job in some areas but lacks much detail
 that the other provides.

 Is there a good way to make the PGS-sourced data match the Tiger data in
 certain areas to improve the accuracy?


I've seen the same thing, but on the Virginia side. I don't think there's a
magical solution, but a rather hard one. I've painstakingly manually merged
nodes, deleted ways, and modified relations so where appropriate there is a
single way referenced by the admin boundary and tagged as coastline. Very
painful and slow going, especially so when you might have to deal with
multiple relations and other messy connections.

-Josh
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Re: [Talk-us] Fixing shorelines

2012-12-13 Thread Jeff Meyer
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:

 I use tilestache to go between
 JOSM's tile underlays and the ArcGIS REST interface).


Do you have a pointer to any docs of how to do this?

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Re: [Talk-us] Fixing shorelines

2012-12-13 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:

  I use tilestache to go between
 JOSM's tile underlays and the ArcGIS REST interface).


 Do you have a pointer to any docs of how to do this?


If you spot any imagery or data you'd like to glean from an ArcGIS web
interface, please let me know as I'm more than happy to proxy it through
the OSM US server.
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Re: [Talk-us] Fixing shorelines

2012-12-13 Thread Eric H. Christensen
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 02:23:52PM -0500, Phil! Gold wrote:
 * Eric H. Christensen e...@christensenplace.us [2012-12-11 21:24 -0500]:
  Is there a good way to make the PGS-sourced data match the Tiger data in 
  certain areas to improve the accuracy?
 
 If you use JOSM, the ContourMerge plugin is very helpful here.  You can
 select nodes on each of the TIGER and PGS ways near where they diverge
 from each other and then drag the coastline onto the administrative
 boundary.  Be aware that both the TIGER and PGS imports periodically split
 ways to keep them from getting too long, so you might have to do the
 merging in several places along the full length of the overlap.

Thanks for the advice.  I've tried that technique and it seems to have done 
what I wanted but I'm withholding judgment until I actually see the results on 
the website.

 Even the TIGER data isn't perfect (though it's far better than PGS, at
 least in Maryland), so what I like to do it use the JOSM
 ImproveWayAccuracy plugin to align the administrative boundary to aerial
 imagery and then use the ContourMerge plugin to overlap the coastline
 ways.  If there's no administrative boundary, I just use the
 ImproveWayAccuracy plugin on the coastline ways directly.

Another great tool.

 On a side note, Anne Arundel County is kind enough to put their geodata
 into the public domain, plus they've got an ArcGIS REST server at
 http://gis-world.aacounty.org/ArcGIS/rest/services/ .  I find their
 basemap, parcel, and orthoimagery layers to be very useful (although JOSM
 can't use them directly, as far as I know; I use tilestache to go between
 JOSM's tile underlays and the ArcGIS REST interface).

I haven't seen that data before but will have to take a look at what's there.  
I've not been very impressed by the TIGER roadway data in my little town so 
I've been slowly making changes or verification that the data is correct.  I 
just moved here so I'm just getting started on this project.

-Eric


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[Talk-us] Fixing shorelines

2012-12-11 Thread Eric H. Christensen
I just moved to the Deale, Maryland area and am working on cleaning up the 
Tiger data and mapping as many POI as I can.  I found that the shoreline here, 
though, is very rough.  Along the Chesapeake Bay the TIGER/LineĀ® 2008 Place 
Shapefiles appears to outline the separation of water and land quite well but 
is labeled as an administrative boundary.  The water boundary is sourced from 
PGS and does a good job in some areas but lacks much detail that the other 
provides.

Is there a good way to make the PGS-sourced data match the Tiger data in 
certain areas to improve the accuracy?

If you'd like to see what I'm talking about take a look at the area around 
N38.7773972 W76.543262.

Thanks.

-- Eric

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