Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute, NE2
On Fri May 31 23:48:45 UTC 2013, Paul Norman penorman at mac.com wrote: The full text of the DWG recommendation to the board is available at http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/File:DWG_NE2_Turn_Restriction_dispute.pdf but the executive summary is as follows: I missed this thread until now, so sorry for the late comment. I'm disappointed that the above recommendation didn't acknowledge that NE2 has done good work. I would say that on the whole his contributions in terms of data are definitely a net positive, including a great deal of geometry improvement, addition of new roads, etc. However I don't fundamentally disagree with the recommendation because of the communication problems, I just wish it didn't dismiss the thousands of hours of good work he has done. I hope he can be reconciled at some point and return to contributing. -Josh ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute, NE2
On 6/12/2013 7:53 AM, Josh Doe wrote: I'm disappointed that the above recommendation didn't acknowledge that NE2 has done good work. I would say that on the whole his contributions in terms of data are definitely a net positive, including a great deal of geometry improvement, addition of new roads, etc. +1 - He got many of the major Interstate, US and state highway relations and routing connectivity in order. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute, NE2
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 08:34:18 -0400 From: nice...@att.net To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute, NE2 On 6/12/2013 7:53 AM, Josh Doe wrote: I'm disappointed that the above recommendation didn't acknowledge that NE2 has done good work. I would say that on the whole his contributions in terms of data are definitely a net positive, including a great deal of geometry improvement, addition of new roads, etc. +1 - He got many of the major Interstate, US and state highway relations and routing connectivity in order. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us I'll 2nd what both Mike and Josh have to say. -James ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute, NE2
Well, on the flip side, there's also been some serious damage from torquing the primary and trunk tags on an indiscriminate nationwide basis that's still in the process of being fixed two years later. On Jun 12, 2013 8:49 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I had some positive email exchange with him years ago, but I must admit back then we had the same opinion on what it was about. Maybe he is not the most social person on the planet, but maybe this block gave him some time to rethink how to solve problems together with others (as I agree this is an important point in a community crowdsourced project like osm is) and that sometimes you have to make compromises and cannot always have every detail like you personally would have to. Anyway, his contributions are impressive, he's been active in OSM almost every single day since he joined the project in 12/2009 and he's #61 for nodes, #22 for ways and #5 for relation contributions (according to Pascal Neis' service: http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?NE2 )! cheers, Martin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute, NE2
After a delay the DWG and OSMF have reached conclusions on the case involving a turn restriction dispute between Paul Johnson and NE2 that was referred to it by Paul Johnson, NE2, and multiple other members of the community. This decision took an extended amount of time due to the investigation and multiple bodies the decision went through. The final decision has been endorsed by the OSMF board. The decision has been made to ban NE2. This is not a decision that was taken lightly. This is an indefinite ban. The full text of the DWG recommendation to the board is available at http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/File:DWG_NE2_Turn_Restriction_dispute.pdf but the executive summary is as follows: NE2 is a user in Florida who tends to be in edit wars with others and is involved in many arguments. There was an edit war over a turn restriction earlier this year, which was referred to the DWG by NE2, the other person involved in the dispute, and members of the US community. NE2's behavior in this dispute was consistent with his past behavior and shows an inability to work with others on what is a crowd-sourcing project. The DWG has recommending/requesting an indefinite (not infinite) ban. This covers both his NE2 and NE3 accounts. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
