Re: [Talk-us] What's protecting the map?
On 09.06.19 22:36, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 1:23 PM Nuno Caldeira > mailto:nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> But what happens if the Foundation is taken over by people with >> commercial interests? >> >> * You still own the rights to any data you contribute, not the >> Foundation. In the new Contributor Terms, you license the >> Foundation to publish the data for others to use and ONLY >> under a free and open license > > This got me thinking, particularly considering the license change a few > years ago and what a fiasco that was. What's protecting the map here? > What's to stop a prolific contributor from taking their ball and going > home, to the overall detriment of the map? I wouldn't call the licence change a fiasco. It was a painful and intense process, but it was almost surprisingly successful - at least that was my personal impression. Even more, the licence change and the new contributor terms sought to avoid the problem where any individual contributor could decide to hold the project hostage, or harm it - intentionally or not. From https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Contributor_Terms : "You hereby grant to OSMF a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable licence to do any act that is restricted by copyright, database right or any related right over anything within the Contents, whether in the original medium or any other. These rights explicitly include commercial use, and do not exclude any field of endeavour." (there's much more on the page) > To be clear, this /is not something I am going to to/. For the sake of > playing Devil's advocate, what is to stop me from, after nearly a > decade, taking my data and going home? This would leave a roughly 400 > kilometer wide hole centered in Tulsa, some serious breakage in metro > Portland and thousands of pockmarks around the world. If I were to pull > out and take my data with me, it would swiss cheese the map.-- Rihards ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] What's protecting the map?
One who wanted to take his datal and go home would have to present/manufacture evidence that the data was taken from a source with a closed/incompatible license. From: Ian Dees Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 12:45 PM To: Paul Johnson Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [Talk-us] What's protecting the map? On Sun, Jun 9, 2019, 15:38 Paul Johnson mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org> > wrote: On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 1:23 PM Nuno Caldeira mailto:nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com> > wrote: But what happens if the Foundation is taken over by people with commercial interests? * You still own the rights to any data you contribute, not the Foundation. In the new Contributor Terms, you license the Foundation to publish the data for others to use and ONLY under a free and open license This got me thinking, particularly considering the license change a few years ago and what a fiasco that was. What's protecting the map here? What's to stop a prolific contributor from taking their ball and going home, to the overall detriment of the map? To be clear, this is not something I am going to to. For the sake of playing Devil's advocate, what is to stop me from, after nearly a decade, taking my data and going home? This would leave a roughly 400 kilometer wide hole centered in Tulsa, some serious breakage in metro Portland and thousands of pockmarks around the world. If I were to pull out and take my data with me, it would swiss cheese the map. What does "taking my data and going home" mean? You've already given OSMF a license to use the data you've contributed so far, so there wouldn't be any reason for OSMF to remove the data from a legal perspective. I suppose you could go around and delete the data you've contributed, but that would likely be considered vandalism and your changes reverted. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] What's protecting the map?
On Sun, Jun 9, 2019, 15:38 Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 1:23 PM Nuno Caldeira > wrote: > >> But what happens if the Foundation is taken over by people with >> commercial interests? >> >>- You still own the rights to any data you contribute, not the >>Foundation. In the new Contributor Terms, you license the Foundation to >>publish the data for others to use and ONLY under a free and open license >> >> > This got me thinking, particularly considering the license change a few > years ago and what a fiasco that was. What's protecting the map here? > What's to stop a prolific contributor from taking their ball and going > home, to the overall detriment of the map? > > To be clear, this *is not something I am going to to*. For the sake of > playing Devil's advocate, what is to stop me from, after nearly a decade, > taking my data and going home? This would leave a roughly 400 kilometer > wide hole centered in Tulsa, some serious breakage in metro Portland and > thousands of pockmarks around the world. If I were to pull out and take my > data with me, it would swiss cheese the map. > What does "taking my data and going home" mean? You've already given OSMF a license to use the data you've contributed so far, so there wouldn't be any reason for OSMF to remove the data from a legal perspective. I suppose you could go around and delete the data you've contributed, but that would likely be considered vandalism and your changes reverted. > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
