Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

2007-01-11 Thread TJ Olsen
I'M alive, or at least i think i am *checks pulse*. Oh yes ok alls good i'm 
not dead yet, i mean i could end up dead but thats another  issue for no 
other dayoh its 5 27 i am meant to be in the lobby  meeting a friend to go 
to a show in 3 minutes, so i  should probably hit alt in combination with 
the letter s. But not before encouraging you all to listen to my shift on 
college radio mondays 3-6 am


tj
- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.



Just a joke about not asking if my code works.  The code is for the task
of validating user input, and trying to catch all the ways a user could
make mistakes, or try and trip up my programming.  For example, think
about a form on a website that asks for your first name.  The name can't:
-- contain punctuation other than period and apostrophe
-- contain numbers other than roman numerals
-- be shorter than 2 characters
-- be blank
-- be a space, tab, or other blank character
-- be longer than about 25 characters (for a first name)

Now what if it wants an email?  It must:
-- not have spaces
-- include an at symbol
-- include at least one period after the at symbol
-- have at least two letters and no numbers after the last period in the
address
-- not include any international characters or punctuation other than
period, underline, dash, and plus

And I haven't even started in on countries, dates, etc.  Consider that
most websites have hundreds of places where a person could type
something or enter some kind of data (usernames, passwords, search
strings, dates, times, numbers, email addresses, IM addresses, comments,
etc) .  Now consider that every kind of bad data needs a specific error
message for what went wrong so the user knows how he/she screwed up.
That's what I've spent all day doing: checking all forms of user input
on a website I'm writing, and writing error messages for every possible
kind of bad input I could dream up for each kind of data.  How long can
a subject be?  How short?  How long should passwords be?  What if
usernames have spaces?  What sorts of punctuation can be entered into a
search form?  If punctuation is entered into a search form, does an
error need to be shown, or can it just be automatically rremoved, and
the search continue?  Must web addresses start with http://?  What about
ftp addresses?  How long can a web address be?  What characters can it
contain?  What characters must it contain, and how many?  Does any of
that apply to ftp addresses, if ftp addresses are allowed in the first
place?  Can comment and other text boxes contain html?  What kind of
html?  What about JavaScript?  As you can see, I am slowly, and ever so
carefully, going completely and irrecoverably insane.  Those questions
are all rhetorical by the way; I've answered all the ones I need
answered.  Was just throwing out random examples.  This public service
announcement has been brought to you by the coalition against writing
your own website from scratch.  Thank you for reading, and have a good
night.
Rosie Morales wrote:

Hi Sam! Yay code! What for? And what does Snoopy have to do with
anything? I am suddenly happier now. That is all.
- Original Message - From: Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.



Hi Rosie!  Hi Derek!Hi talk2!  Hi!
I, also, am around.  Busy as all hell, but around.  Wrote several
hundred lines of code today.  Go me!  What do you mean, do they work?
Don't ask questions, snoopy.
Rosie Morales wrote:

And I'm just saying hi because I haven't written to this list in a
very long time. Although most of you know i'm around. Need I say that
I love college? I think I'm going to update my lj. I feel inspired. Hi
derek! lol

- Original Message -
*From:* derek Lane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* talk2 mailto:talk2@AndreLouis.COM
*Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2007 7:43 PM
*Subject:* The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

So I just thought you should know that I am back at gwu and that
it's annoying.
Nothing bad mind, just that it's annoying just because I said so,
and break is, for the most part, over.




--
Samuel Proulx
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cell phone: 1-416-520-4383
laptop phone: 1-425-606-3231
http://fastfinge.livejournal.com
It is far more impressive when others discover your good qualities
without your help.



Did you miss a message?  Well, don't.
http://www.mail-archive.com/talk2%40andrelouis.com/
has it for you.  Never miss a Talk2 message again.




Did you miss a message?  Well, don't.
http://www.mail-archive.com/talk2%40andrelouis.com/
has it for you.  Never miss a Talk2 message again.




--
Samuel Proulx
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cell phone: 1-416-520-4383
laptop phone: 1

RE: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

2007-01-11 Thread Darren Duff
Well, I for one am sertenly alive and kicking, and have just joined this
fine list!


Darren Duff.

Assistive Technology Instructor

Phone: (678)936-6113

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

skype ID: duffman31279 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TJ
Olsen
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:29 PM
To: talk2
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


I'M alive, or at least i think i am *checks pulse*. Oh yes ok alls good i'm 
not dead yet, i mean i could end up dead but thats another  issue for no 
other dayoh its 5 27 i am meant to be in the lobby  meeting a friend to go 
to a show in 3 minutes, so i  should probably hit alt in combination with 
the letter s. But not before encouraging you all to listen to my shift on 
college radio mondays 3-6 am

tj
- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


 Just a joke about not asking if my code works.  The code is for the 
 task of validating user input, and trying to catch all the ways a user 
 could make mistakes, or try and trip up my programming.  For example, 
 think about a form on a website that asks for your first name.  The 
 name can't:
 -- contain punctuation other than period and apostrophe
 -- contain numbers other than roman numerals
 -- be shorter than 2 characters
 -- be blank
 -- be a space, tab, or other blank character
 -- be longer than about 25 characters (for a first name)

 Now what if it wants an email?  It must:
 -- not have spaces
 -- include an at symbol
 -- include at least one period after the at symbol
 -- have at least two letters and no numbers after the last period in 
 the address
 -- not include any international characters or punctuation other than 
 period, underline, dash, and plus

 And I haven't even started in on countries, dates, etc.  Consider that 
 most websites have hundreds of places where a person could type 
 something or enter some kind of data (usernames, passwords, search 
 strings, dates, times, numbers, email addresses, IM addresses, 
 comments,
 etc) .  Now consider that every kind of bad data needs a specific error
 message for what went wrong so the user knows how he/she screwed up.
 That's what I've spent all day doing: checking all forms of user input
 on a website I'm writing, and writing error messages for every possible
 kind of bad input I could dream up for each kind of data.  How long can
 a subject be?  How short?  How long should passwords be?  What if
 usernames have spaces?  What sorts of punctuation can be entered into a
 search form?  If punctuation is entered into a search form, does an
 error need to be shown, or can it just be automatically rremoved, and
 the search continue?  Must web addresses start with http://?  What about
 ftp addresses?  How long can a web address be?  What characters can it
 contain?  What characters must it contain, and how many?  Does any of
 that apply to ftp addresses, if ftp addresses are allowed in the first
 place?  Can comment and other text boxes contain html?  What kind of
 html?  What about JavaScript?  As you can see, I am slowly, and ever so
 carefully, going completely and irrecoverably insane.  Those questions
 are all rhetorical by the way; I've answered all the ones I need
 answered.  Was just throwing out random examples.  This public service
 announcement has been brought to you by the coalition against writing
 your own website from scratch.  Thank you for reading, and have a good
 night.
 Rosie Morales wrote:
 Hi Sam! Yay code! What for? And what does Snoopy have to do with 
 anything? I am suddenly happier now. That is all.
 - Original Message - From: Samuel Proulx 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:31 PM
 Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


 Hi Rosie!  Hi Derek!Hi talk2!  Hi!
 I, also, am around.  Busy as all hell, but around.  Wrote several 
 hundred lines of code today.  Go me!  What do you mean, do they 
 work? Don't ask questions, snoopy. Rosie Morales wrote:
 And I'm just saying hi because I haven't written to this list in a 
 very long time. Although most of you know i'm around. Need I say 
 that I love college? I think I'm going to update my lj. I feel 
 inspired. Hi derek! lol

 - Original Message -
 *From:* derek Lane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* talk2 mailto:talk2@AndreLouis.COM
 *Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2007 7:43 PM
 *Subject:* The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

 So I just thought you should know that I am back at gwu and that
 it's annoying.
 Nothing bad mind, just that it's annoying just because I said so,
 and break is, for the most part, over.



 --
 Samuel Proulx
 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cell phone: 1-416-520-4383
 laptop phone: 1-425-606

RE: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

2007-01-11 Thread Darren Duff
Great!!! Just what I wanted to hear! lol!


Darren Duff.

Assistive Technology Instructor

Phone: (678)936-6113

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

skype ID: duffman31279 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Maria L
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:04 PM
To: talk2
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


congratulations Darren.  You've just taken the big step into hopeless 
insanity.  lol

And now, why does my Outlook Express window say central European at the top?

Help!

Maria

- Original Message - 
From: Darren Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


Well, I for one am sertenly alive and kicking, and have just joined this
fine list!


Darren Duff.

Assistive Technology Instructor

Phone: (678)936-6113

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

skype ID: duffman31279

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TJ
Olsen
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:29 PM
To: talk2
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


I'M alive, or at least i think i am *checks pulse*. Oh yes ok alls good i'm
not dead yet, i mean i could end up dead but thats another  issue for no
other dayoh its 5 27 i am meant to be in the lobby  meeting a friend to go
to a show in 3 minutes, so i  should probably hit alt in combination with
the letter s. But not before encouraging you all to listen to my shift on
college radio mondays 3-6 am

tj
- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


 Just a joke about not asking if my code works.  The code is for the 
 task of validating user input, and trying to catch all the ways a user 
 could make mistakes, or try and trip up my programming.  For example, 
 think about a form on a website that asks for your first name.  The 
 name can't:
 -- contain punctuation other than period and apostrophe
 -- contain numbers other than roman numerals
 -- be shorter than 2 characters
 -- be blank
 -- be a space, tab, or other blank character
 -- be longer than about 25 characters (for a first name)

 Now what if it wants an email?  It must:
 -- not have spaces
 -- include an at symbol
 -- include at least one period after the at symbol
 -- have at least two letters and no numbers after the last period in 
 the address
 -- not include any international characters or punctuation other than 
 period, underline, dash, and plus

 And I haven't even started in on countries, dates, etc.  Consider that 
 most websites have hundreds of places where a person could type 
 something or enter some kind of data (usernames, passwords, search 
 strings, dates, times, numbers, email addresses, IM addresses, 
 comments,
 etc) .  Now consider that every kind of bad data needs a specific 
 error message for what went wrong so the user knows how he/she screwed 
 up. That's what I've spent all day doing: checking all forms of user 
 input on a website I'm writing, and writing error messages for every 
 possible kind of bad input I could dream up for each kind of data.  
 How long can a subject be?  How short?  How long should passwords be?  
 What if usernames have spaces?  What sorts of punctuation can be 
 entered into a search form?  If punctuation is entered into a search 
 form, does an error need to be shown, or can it just be automatically 
 rremoved, and the search continue?  Must web addresses start with 
 http://?  What about ftp addresses?  How long can a web address be?  
 What characters can it contain?  What characters must it contain, and 
 how many?  Does any of that apply to ftp addresses, if ftp addresses 
 are allowed in the first place?  Can comment and other text boxes 
 contain html?  What kind of html?  What about JavaScript?  As you can 
 see, I am slowly, and ever so carefully, going completely and 
 irrecoverably insane.  Those questions are all rhetorical by the way; 
 I've answered all the ones I need answered.  Was just throwing out 
 random examples.  This public service announcement has been brought to 
 you by the coalition against writing your own website from scratch.  
 Thank you for reading, and have a good night. Rosie Morales wrote:
 Hi Sam! Yay code! What for? And what does Snoopy have to do with 
 anything? I am suddenly happier now. That is all.
 - Original Message - From: Samuel Proulx 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:31 PM
 Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


 Hi Rosie!  Hi Derek!Hi talk2!  Hi!
 I, also, am around.  Busy as all hell, but around.  Wrote several 
 hundred lines of code today.  Go me!  What do you mean, do they 
 work? Don't ask questions, snoopy. Rosie Morales wrote:
 And I'm just

Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

2007-01-11 Thread Samuel Proulx
Well, that would depend on what email client you're using, now wouldn't
it? 

By the way, that message was a one-liner.
But this message is not.
Darren Duff wrote:
 What? how the crap do I change that! arhrhrhrg!


 Darren Duff.

 Assistive Technology Instructor

 Phone: (678)936-6113

 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 skype ID: duffman31279 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Samuel Proulx
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:16 PM
 To: talk2
 Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


 Because that's the encoding that Derren writes in.  His mail client
 apparently believes he needs to write Icelandic and other strange
 characters.  Time waste: I never knew about FRNK radio.  I just tuned in
 now...what a complete and total waste of time.  Wow.  These people all lose.
 No, seriously.  All of them.  livejournal.com/radio. 
 Maria L wrote:
   
 congratulations Darren.  You've just taken the big step into hopeless 
 insanity.  lol

 And now, why does my Outlook Express window say central European at 
 the top? Help!

 Maria

 - Original Message - From: Darren Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:27 PM
 Subject: RE: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


 Well, I for one am sertenly alive and kicking, and have just joined 
 this fine list!


 Darren Duff.

 Assistive Technology Instructor

 Phone: (678)936-6113

 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 skype ID: duffman31279

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
 Of TJ Olsen
 Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:29 PM
 To: talk2
 Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


 I'M alive, or at least i think i am *checks pulse*. Oh yes ok alls 
 good i'm not dead yet, i mean i could end up dead but thats another  
 issue for no other dayoh its 5 27 i am meant to be in the lobby  
 meeting a friend to go
 to a show in 3 minutes, so i  should probably hit alt in combination with
 the letter s. But not before encouraging you all to listen to my shift on
 college radio mondays 3-6 am

 tj
 - Original Message - From: Samuel Proulx 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:11 PM
 Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


 
 Just a joke about not asking if my code works.  The code is for the 
 task of validating user input, and trying to catch all the ways a 
 user could make mistakes, or try and trip up my programming.  For 
 example, think about a form on a website that asks for your first 
 name.  The name can't:
 -- contain punctuation other than period and apostrophe
 -- contain numbers other than roman numerals
 -- be shorter than 2 characters
 -- be blank
 -- be a space, tab, or other blank character
 -- be longer than about 25 characters (for a first name)

 Now what if it wants an email?  It must:
 -- not have spaces
 -- include an at symbol
 -- include at least one period after the at symbol
 -- have at least two letters and no numbers after the last period in 
 the address
 -- not include any international characters or punctuation other than 
 period, underline, dash, and plus

 And I haven't even started in on countries, dates, etc.  Consider 
 that most websites have hundreds of places where a person could type 
 something or enter some kind of data (usernames, passwords, search 
 strings, dates, times, numbers, email addresses, IM addresses, 
 comments,
 etc) .  Now consider that every kind of bad data needs a specific 
 error message for what went wrong so the user knows how he/she 
 screwed up. That's what I've spent all day doing: checking all forms 
 of user input on a website I'm writing, and writing error messages 
 for every possible kind of bad input I could dream up for each kind 
 of data.  How long can a subject be?  How short?  How long should 
 passwords be?  What if usernames have spaces?  What sorts of 
 punctuation can be entered into a search form?  If punctuation is 
 entered into a search form, does an error need to be shown, or can it 
 just be automatically rremoved, and the search continue?  Must web 
 addresses start with http://?  What about ftp addresses?  How long 
 can a web address be?  What characters can it contain?  What 
 characters must it contain, and how many?  Does any of that apply to 
 ftp addresses, if ftp addresses are allowed in the first place?  Can 
 comment and other text boxes contain html?  What kind of html?  What 
 about JavaScript?  As you can see, I am slowly, and ever so 
 carefully, going completely and irrecoverably insane.  Those 
 questions are all rhetorical by the way; I've answered all the ones I 
 need answered.  Was just throwing out random examples.  This public 
 service announcement has been brought to you by the coalition against 
 writing your own website from scratch.  Thank you for reading

Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

2007-01-11 Thread Maria L

Oh scary.
why Livejournal.com radio by the way?  did you get it to work or 
something?Line 3

and 4

Maria
- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.



Because that's the encoding that Derren writes in.  His mail client
apparently believes he needs to write Icelandic and other strange
characters.  Time waste: I never knew about FRNK radio.  I just tuned in
now...what a complete and total waste of time.  Wow.  These people all
lose.  No, seriously.  All of them.  livejournal.com/radio.
Maria L wrote:

congratulations Darren.  You've just taken the big step into hopeless
insanity.  lol

And now, why does my Outlook Express window say central European at
the top? Help!

Maria

- Original Message - From: Darren Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


Well, I for one am sertenly alive and kicking, and have just joined this
fine list!


Darren Duff.

Assistive Technology Instructor

Phone: (678)936-6113

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

skype ID: duffman31279

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of TJ
Olsen
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:29 PM
To: talk2
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


I'M alive, or at least i think i am *checks pulse*. Oh yes ok alls
good i'm
not dead yet, i mean i could end up dead but thats another  issue for no
other dayoh its 5 27 i am meant to be in the lobby  meeting a friend
to go
to a show in 3 minutes, so i  should probably hit alt in combination with
the letter s. But not before encouraging you all to listen to my shift on
college radio mondays 3-6 am

tj
- Original Message - From: Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.



Just a joke about not asking if my code works.  The code is for the
task of validating user input, and trying to catch all the ways a user
could make mistakes, or try and trip up my programming.  For example,
think about a form on a website that asks for your first name.  The
name can't:
-- contain punctuation other than period and apostrophe
-- contain numbers other than roman numerals
-- be shorter than 2 characters
-- be blank
-- be a space, tab, or other blank character
-- be longer than about 25 characters (for a first name)

Now what if it wants an email?  It must:
-- not have spaces
-- include an at symbol
-- include at least one period after the at symbol
-- have at least two letters and no numbers after the last period in
the address
-- not include any international characters or punctuation other than
period, underline, dash, and plus

And I haven't even started in on countries, dates, etc.  Consider that
most websites have hundreds of places where a person could type
something or enter some kind of data (usernames, passwords, search
strings, dates, times, numbers, email addresses, IM addresses,
comments,
etc) .  Now consider that every kind of bad data needs a specific error
message for what went wrong so the user knows how he/she screwed up.
That's what I've spent all day doing: checking all forms of user input
on a website I'm writing, and writing error messages for every possible
kind of bad input I could dream up for each kind of data.  How long can
a subject be?  How short?  How long should passwords be?  What if
usernames have spaces?  What sorts of punctuation can be entered into a
search form?  If punctuation is entered into a search form, does an
error need to be shown, or can it just be automatically rremoved, and
the search continue?  Must web addresses start with http://?  What about
ftp addresses?  How long can a web address be?  What characters can it
contain?  What characters must it contain, and how many?  Does any of
that apply to ftp addresses, if ftp addresses are allowed in the first
place?  Can comment and other text boxes contain html?  What kind of
html?  What about JavaScript?  As you can see, I am slowly, and ever so
carefully, going completely and irrecoverably insane.  Those questions
are all rhetorical by the way; I've answered all the ones I need
answered.  Was just throwing out random examples.  This public service
announcement has been brought to you by the coalition against writing
your own website from scratch.  Thank you for reading, and have a good
night.
Rosie Morales wrote:

Hi Sam! Yay code! What for? And what does Snoopy have to do with
anything? I am suddenly happier now. That is all.
- Original Message - From: Samuel Proulx
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.



Hi Rosie!  Hi Derek!Hi talk2!  Hi!
I, also, am around

Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

2007-01-09 Thread Nick
Sam, I can't wait to see that once it's finished.  That's a shitload of 
coding that I would never, ever, ever be able to do because it'd tair my 
head apart.
- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.



Just a joke about not asking if my code works.  The code is for the task
of validating user input, and trying to catch all the ways a user could
make mistakes, or try and trip up my programming.  For example, think
about a form on a website that asks for your first name.  The name can't:
-- contain punctuation other than period and apostrophe
-- contain numbers other than roman numerals
-- be shorter than 2 characters
-- be blank
-- be a space, tab, or other blank character
-- be longer than about 25 characters (for a first name)

Now what if it wants an email?  It must:
-- not have spaces
-- include an at symbol
-- include at least one period after the at symbol
-- have at least two letters and no numbers after the last period in the
address
-- not include any international characters or punctuation other than
period, underline, dash, and plus

And I haven't even started in on countries, dates, etc.  Consider that
most websites have hundreds of places where a person could type
something or enter some kind of data (usernames, passwords, search
strings, dates, times, numbers, email addresses, IM addresses, comments,
etc) .  Now consider that every kind of bad data needs a specific error
message for what went wrong so the user knows how he/she screwed up.
That's what I've spent all day doing: checking all forms of user input
on a website I'm writing, and writing error messages for every possible
kind of bad input I could dream up for each kind of data.  How long can
a subject be?  How short?  How long should passwords be?  What if
usernames have spaces?  What sorts of punctuation can be entered into a
search form?  If punctuation is entered into a search form, does an
error need to be shown, or can it just be automatically rremoved, and
the search continue?  Must web addresses start with http://?  What about
ftp addresses?  How long can a web address be?  What characters can it
contain?  What characters must it contain, and how many?  Does any of
that apply to ftp addresses, if ftp addresses are allowed in the first
place?  Can comment and other text boxes contain html?  What kind of
html?  What about JavaScript?  As you can see, I am slowly, and ever so
carefully, going completely and irrecoverably insane.  Those questions
are all rhetorical by the way; I've answered all the ones I need
answered.  Was just throwing out random examples.  This public service
announcement has been brought to you by the coalition against writing
your own website from scratch.  Thank you for reading, and have a good
night.
Rosie Morales wrote:

Hi Sam! Yay code! What for? And what does Snoopy have to do with
anything? I am suddenly happier now. That is all.
- Original Message - From: Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.



Hi Rosie!  Hi Derek!Hi talk2!  Hi!
I, also, am around.  Busy as all hell, but around.  Wrote several
hundred lines of code today.  Go me!  What do you mean, do they work?
Don't ask questions, snoopy.
Rosie Morales wrote:

And I'm just saying hi because I haven't written to this list in a
very long time. Although most of you know i'm around. Need I say that
I love college? I think I'm going to update my lj. I feel inspired. Hi
derek! lol

- Original Message -
*From:* derek Lane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* talk2 mailto:talk2@AndreLouis.COM
*Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2007 7:43 PM
*Subject:* The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

So I just thought you should know that I am back at gwu and that
it's annoying.
Nothing bad mind, just that it's annoying just because I said so,
and break is, for the most part, over.




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cell phone: 1-416-520-4383
laptop phone: 1-425-606-3231
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2007-01-08 Thread Rosie Morales
Hi Sam! Yay code! What for? And what does Snoopy have to do with anything? I 
am suddenly happier now. That is all.
- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.



Hi Rosie!  Hi Derek!Hi talk2!  Hi!
I, also, am around.  Busy as all hell, but around.  Wrote several
hundred lines of code today.  Go me!  What do you mean, do they work?
Don't ask questions, snoopy.
Rosie Morales wrote:

And I'm just saying hi because I haven't written to this list in a
very long time. Although most of you know i'm around. Need I say that
I love college? I think I'm going to update my lj. I feel inspired. Hi
derek! lol

- Original Message -
*From:* derek Lane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* talk2 mailto:talk2@AndreLouis.COM
*Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2007 7:43 PM
*Subject:* The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

So I just thought you should know that I am back at gwu and that
it's annoying.
Nothing bad mind, just that it's annoying just because I said so,
and break is, for the most part, over.




--
Samuel Proulx
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cell phone: 1-416-520-4383
laptop phone: 1-425-606-3231
http://fastfinge.livejournal.com
It is far more impressive when others discover your good qualities without 
your help.




Did you miss a message?  Well, don't.
http://www.mail-archive.com/talk2%40andrelouis.com/
has it for you.  Never miss a Talk2 message again. 




Did you miss a message?  Well, don't.
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has it for you.  Never miss a Talk2 message again.


Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

2007-01-08 Thread Samuel Proulx
Just a joke about not asking if my code works.  The code is for the task
of validating user input, and trying to catch all the ways a user could
make mistakes, or try and trip up my programming.  For example, think
about a form on a website that asks for your first name.  The name can't:
-- contain punctuation other than period and apostrophe
-- contain numbers other than roman numerals
-- be shorter than 2 characters
-- be blank
-- be a space, tab, or other blank character
-- be longer than about 25 characters (for a first name)

Now what if it wants an email?  It must:
-- not have spaces
-- include an at symbol
-- include at least one period after the at symbol
-- have at least two letters and no numbers after the last period in the
address
-- not include any international characters or punctuation other than
period, underline, dash, and plus

And I haven't even started in on countries, dates, etc.  Consider that
most websites have hundreds of places where a person could type
something or enter some kind of data (usernames, passwords, search
strings, dates, times, numbers, email addresses, IM addresses, comments,
etc) .  Now consider that every kind of bad data needs a specific error
message for what went wrong so the user knows how he/she screwed up. 
That's what I've spent all day doing: checking all forms of user input
on a website I'm writing, and writing error messages for every possible
kind of bad input I could dream up for each kind of data.  How long can
a subject be?  How short?  How long should passwords be?  What if
usernames have spaces?  What sorts of punctuation can be entered into a
search form?  If punctuation is entered into a search form, does an
error need to be shown, or can it just be automatically rremoved, and
the search continue?  Must web addresses start with http://?  What about
ftp addresses?  How long can a web address be?  What characters can it
contain?  What characters must it contain, and how many?  Does any of
that apply to ftp addresses, if ftp addresses are allowed in the first
place?  Can comment and other text boxes contain html?  What kind of
html?  What about JavaScript?  As you can see, I am slowly, and ever so
carefully, going completely and irrecoverably insane.  Those questions
are all rhetorical by the way; I've answered all the ones I need
answered.  Was just throwing out random examples.  This public service
announcement has been brought to you by the coalition against writing
your own website from scratch.  Thank you for reading, and have a good
night. 
Rosie Morales wrote:
 Hi Sam! Yay code! What for? And what does Snoopy have to do with
 anything? I am suddenly happier now. That is all.
 - Original Message - From: Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: talk2 talk2@AndreLouis.COM
 Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:31 PM
 Subject: Re: The Talk2 List This list has been dead.


 Hi Rosie!  Hi Derek!Hi talk2!  Hi!
 I, also, am around.  Busy as all hell, but around.  Wrote several
 hundred lines of code today.  Go me!  What do you mean, do they work?
 Don't ask questions, snoopy.
 Rosie Morales wrote:
 And I'm just saying hi because I haven't written to this list in a
 very long time. Although most of you know i'm around. Need I say that
 I love college? I think I'm going to update my lj. I feel inspired. Hi
 derek! lol

 - Original Message -
 *From:* derek Lane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* talk2 mailto:talk2@AndreLouis.COM
 *Sent:* Monday, January 08, 2007 7:43 PM
 *Subject:* The Talk2 List This list has been dead.

 So I just thought you should know that I am back at gwu and that
 it's annoying.
 Nothing bad mind, just that it's annoying just because I said so,
 and break is, for the most part, over.



 -- 
 Samuel Proulx
 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cell phone: 1-416-520-4383
 laptop phone: 1-425-606-3231
 http://fastfinge.livejournal.com
 It is far more impressive when others discover your good qualities
 without your help.



 Did you miss a message?  Well, don't.
 http://www.mail-archive.com/talk2%40andrelouis.com/
 has it for you.  Never miss a Talk2 message again. 



 Did you miss a message?  Well, don't.
 http://www.mail-archive.com/talk2%40andrelouis.com/
 has it for you.  Never miss a Talk2 message again.



-- 
Samuel Proulx
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cell phone: 1-416-520-4383
laptop phone: 1-425-606-3231
http://fastfinge.livejournal.com
Butterflies taste with their feet.



Did you miss a message?  Well, don't.
http://www.mail-archive.com/talk2%40andrelouis.com/
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