Re: To stand, or not??
On a slightly more serious note than the fish scheme, I think that remembering songs takes a different approach from many learning tasks, particularly if you are all singing harmony and are not free to change any words as you go along and the spirit hits you. For learning most things, it's enough to get the basic concepts and understand them and you can use memory tags to help you, but with a song you have to get it absolutely perfect and with no time to think about it. That means that techniques like mind mapping and so on are not really appropriate, unless you are trying to learn the overall structure of something like a story song, rather than the detailed words. Everyone has their method, but I think ultimately you have to sit down and learn each line and verse with a piece of paper - read, recite and test yourself with the paper turned over, then when you practice with your friends really notice where you are not sure and learn it again. Memory works in cycles, so it does help to learn something, then to go back to it a couple of hours later, the following morning, two days time and so on: there is a process whereby material goes from short term to medium and long term memory and you can speed it up by recycling. Best On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:43 AM, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.auwrote: Morning All, We had our performance on Sat night and I did two short brackets with different teams. The first stint was a blast and my accompaniment needed no music so we ripped through it without a hitch. The second stint was with a different guitar and a fiddle and the guitarist had his lyrics on the floor. In the tune that he sang he was not pitching too well. I believe he was so worried about reading the words that his mind wasn’t where it should’ve been, but that’s the way it goes, it was still fun but a more inhibited effort on his part. Better next time. We played a few traditional tunes and several Louvin numbers which have harmonies. I found that a lot of the groups had good pickers but weak vocals. The jam is once a month so we aim to learn new tunes for each performance until the number steadily grows. It was interesting to see that most other groups had music stands and it seemed to be the norm. Out of interest, I read about How To Improve Your Memory and they talk about Goal Setting, Mind Mapping, Mind Mechanics and so on. I wonder if there are any school teachers that are in this group, and are there any special techniques to apply to music? I’m pretty hopeless with names on first encounter because I take in the description and features of a person, always forgetting the seemingly most important thing, the name! When I make a conscious effort to remember their name, attribute something to it, it works…but I usually forget to do this, it’s not a habit. How ironic. I better start using my Mind Tools better. H On Jul 4, 12:20 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: I have to tell you all that our guitarist invented a new mnemnonic technique based on using fish to remember the order of the verses: for example 'two dollar bill': *L*obster (Lost all my money..) *C*od (Cloudy in the west..) *D*ogfish (Dark and it's raining..) *H*ake (Homesick and lonesome...) *B*ass (Black smoke a rising..) My question is whether he should be institutionalised, or whether some kind of medication would sort him out... On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:11 PM, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.auwrote: Thanks Everyone, terrific feedback. I hope my guitarist comes through tomorrow night, I'll keep y'all informed. There is a tune where I kept confusing the verses, and in Take Your Shoes Off Moses the Fiddle asked what the word Smite meant. After several comments, laughter, discussion etc, I then always remembered that word to be in the 2nd verse and it stuck like glue. I also used to be a bit lazy with I Don't Believe You've Met My Baby (Louvin) and after deciding to learn it properly, I began rehearsing without paper and then started singing in the shower and in the car, which did the trick. I started to imagine the plot to the story and Bingo. But my poor family :-) Chef, that RS link sums it all up . . . . now what was I sayin' . . . . HK On Jul 3, 10:03 pm, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote: The Foggy Memory Boysgreat name, great concept...sure would love to see one of your ...efforts, sounds like lots of fun for all. On Jul 3, 5:24 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: It seems as if a lot of Tater folk have a band going - why don't we share songs videos and so on? I'd be interested to hear what everyone's doing - seems like there are a lot of creative people here, and that people are applying their mandolin to some different styles. How about it? Robin On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Val Mindel
Re: To stand, or not??
Hey Robin, Recycling...that sounds like practice :-) I like it. Cheers from chilly Sydney...Holstein On Jul 6, 5:27 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: On a slightly more serious note than the fish scheme, I think that remembering songs takes a different approach from many learning tasks, particularly if you are all singing harmony and are not free to change any words as you go along and the spirit hits you. For learning most things, it's enough to get the basic concepts and understand them and you can use memory tags to help you, but with a song you have to get it absolutely perfect and with no time to think about it. That means that techniques like mind mapping and so on are not really appropriate, unless you are trying to learn the overall structure of something like a story song, rather than the detailed words. Everyone has their method, but I think ultimately you have to sit down and learn each line and verse with a piece of paper - read, recite and test yourself with the paper turned over, then when you practice with your friends really notice where you are not sure and learn it again. Memory works in cycles, so it does help to learn something, then to go back to it a couple of hours later, the following morning, two days time and so on: there is a process whereby material goes from short term to medium and long term memory and you can speed it up by recycling. Best On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:43 AM, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.auwrote: Morning All, We had our performance on Sat night and I did two short brackets with different teams. The first stint was a blast and my accompaniment needed no music so we ripped through it without a hitch. The second stint was with a different guitar and a fiddle and the guitarist had his lyrics on the floor. In the tune that he sang he was not pitching too well. I believe he was so worried about reading the words that his mind wasn’t where it should’ve been, but that’s the way it goes, it was still fun but a more inhibited effort on his part. Better next time. We played a few traditional tunes and several Louvin numbers which have harmonies. I found that a lot of the groups had good pickers but weak vocals. The jam is once a month so we aim to learn new tunes for each performance until the number steadily grows. It was interesting to see that most other groups had music stands and it seemed to be the norm. Out of interest, I read about How To Improve Your Memory and they talk about Goal Setting, Mind Mapping, Mind Mechanics and so on. I wonder if there are any school teachers that are in this group, and are there any special techniques to apply to music? I’m pretty hopeless with names on first encounter because I take in the description and features of a person, always forgetting the seemingly most important thing, the name! When I make a conscious effort to remember their name, attribute something to it, it works…but I usually forget to do this, it’s not a habit. How ironic. I better start using my Mind Tools better. H On Jul 4, 12:20 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: I have to tell you all that our guitarist invented a new mnemnonic technique based on using fish to remember the order of the verses: for example 'two dollar bill': *L*obster (Lost all my money..) *C*od (Cloudy in the west..) *D*ogfish (Dark and it's raining..) *H*ake (Homesick and lonesome...) *B*ass (Black smoke a rising..) My question is whether he should be institutionalised, or whether some kind of medication would sort him out... On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:11 PM, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.auwrote: Thanks Everyone, terrific feedback. I hope my guitarist comes through tomorrow night, I'll keep y'all informed. There is a tune where I kept confusing the verses, and in Take Your Shoes Off Moses the Fiddle asked what the word Smite meant. After several comments, laughter, discussion etc, I then always remembered that word to be in the 2nd verse and it stuck like glue. I also used to be a bit lazy with I Don't Believe You've Met My Baby (Louvin) and after deciding to learn it properly, I began rehearsing without paper and then started singing in the shower and in the car, which did the trick. I started to imagine the plot to the story and Bingo. But my poor family :-) Chef, that RS link sums it all up . . . . now what was I sayin' . . . . HK On Jul 3, 10:03 pm, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote: The Foggy Memory Boysgreat name, great concept...sure would love to see one of your ...efforts, sounds like lots of fun for all. On Jul 3, 5:24 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: It seems as if a lot of Tater folk have a band going - why don't we share songs videos and so on? I'd be interested to hear what everyone's
Re: Obscure Monroe Tunes
Terry sweet list Any body know where a person could find Baltimore Breakdown Blue Goose Blues for Casey California forrest Fire Dead waltz Golden West Lady of Blueridge Lochwood Milenburg Joy Nanook of the North Old lonesome waltz Old Grey Mare Came Tearing out of the Wilderness Old Lonesome Waltz Old Tennessee River Pilgrims knob Real foot Reel Stone Coal Texas Lone Star Tokyo Moonlight Waltz White Horse Breakdown Wolf Trap Blues Woodstock Hornpipe I guess the next part of the mystery is what's the story behind them! Adam On Jul 5, 4:50 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: Pete wrote this I thought Baker wrote this, but I just read the liner notes to Bakers Dozen. Says Monroe wrote it. The longest running NW BG festival is Darrington Washington. You look out from the stage to White Horse Mountain. The rumor was Baker wrote the tune on the spot, but I never believed it. then Clyde wrote My Texas roots tell me it doesn't matter if it's true as long as it's a good story. See you in the woods, Pete. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle - 96. White Horse Breakdown (?)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: To stand, or not??
Robin, that is spot on with what I read about such things...but you filled it in ...makes good sense to me. It did take a lot of recycling for me to learn those four set of two line verses Even colder in Hobart... On Jul 6, 8:32 pm, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.au wrote: Hey Robin, Recycling...that sounds like practice :-) I like it. Cheers from chilly Sydney...Holstein On Jul 6, 5:27 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: On a slightly more serious note than the fish scheme, I think that remembering songs takes a different approach from many learning tasks, particularly if you are all singing harmony and are not free to change any words as you go along and the spirit hits you. For learning most things, it's enough to get the basic concepts and understand them and you can use memory tags to help you, but with a song you have to get it absolutely perfect and with no time to think about it. That means that techniques like mind mapping and so on are not really appropriate, unless you are trying to learn the overall structure of something like a story song, rather than the detailed words. Everyone has their method, but I think ultimately you have to sit down and learn each line and verse with a piece of paper - read, recite and test yourself with the paper turned over, then when you practice with your friends really notice where you are not sure and learn it again. Memory works in cycles, so it does help to learn something, then to go back to it a couple of hours later, the following morning, two days time and so on: there is a process whereby material goes from short term to medium and long term memory and you can speed it up by recycling. Best On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:43 AM, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.auwrote: Morning All, We had our performance on Sat night and I did two short brackets with different teams. The first stint was a blast and my accompaniment needed no music so we ripped through it without a hitch. The second stint was with a different guitar and a fiddle and the guitarist had his lyrics on the floor. In the tune that he sang he was not pitching too well. I believe he was so worried about reading the words that his mind wasn’t where it should’ve been, but that’s the way it goes, it was still fun but a more inhibited effort on his part. Better next time. We played a few traditional tunes and several Louvin numbers which have harmonies. I found that a lot of the groups had good pickers but weak vocals. The jam is once a month so we aim to learn new tunes for each performance until the number steadily grows. It was interesting to see that most other groups had music stands and it seemed to be the norm. Out of interest, I read about How To Improve Your Memory and they talk about Goal Setting, Mind Mapping, Mind Mechanics and so on. I wonder if there are any school teachers that are in this group, and are there any special techniques to apply to music? I’m pretty hopeless with names on first encounter because I take in the description and features of a person, always forgetting the seemingly most important thing, the name! When I make a conscious effort to remember their name, attribute something to it, it works…but I usually forget to do this, it’s not a habit. How ironic. I better start using my Mind Tools better. H On Jul 4, 12:20 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: I have to tell you all that our guitarist invented a new mnemnonic technique based on using fish to remember the order of the verses: for example 'two dollar bill': *L*obster (Lost all my money..) *C*od (Cloudy in the west..) *D*ogfish (Dark and it's raining..) *H*ake (Homesick and lonesome...) *B*ass (Black smoke a rising..) My question is whether he should be institutionalised, or whether some kind of medication would sort him out... On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:11 PM, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.auwrote: Thanks Everyone, terrific feedback. I hope my guitarist comes through tomorrow night, I'll keep y'all informed. There is a tune where I kept confusing the verses, and in Take Your Shoes Off Moses the Fiddle asked what the word Smite meant. After several comments, laughter, discussion etc, I then always remembered that word to be in the 2nd verse and it stuck like glue. I also used to be a bit lazy with I Don't Believe You've Met My Baby (Louvin) and after deciding to learn it properly, I began rehearsing without paper and then started singing in the shower and in the car, which did the trick. I started to imagine the plot to the story and Bingo. But my poor family :-) Chef, that RS link sums it all up . . . . now what was I sayin' . . . . HK On Jul 3, 10:03 pm, ljt lj...@intas.net.au
Re: To stand, or not??
well I have to deal with the fish guitarist who has a photographic memory of sorts and objects to the word 'in' being substituted for the word 'on' On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:16 PM, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote: Robin, that is spot on with what I read about such things...but you filled it in ...makes good sense to me. It did take a lot of recycling for me to learn those four set of two line verses Even colder in Hobart... On Jul 6, 8:32 pm, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.au wrote: Hey Robin, Recycling...that sounds like practice :-) I like it. Cheers from chilly Sydney...Holstein On Jul 6, 5:27 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: On a slightly more serious note than the fish scheme, I think that remembering songs takes a different approach from many learning tasks, particularly if you are all singing harmony and are not free to change any words as you go along and the spirit hits you. For learning most things, it's enough to get the basic concepts and understand them and you can use memory tags to help you, but with a song you have to get it absolutely perfect and with no time to think about it. That means that techniques like mind mapping and so on are not really appropriate, unless you are trying to learn the overall structure of something like a story song, rather than the detailed words. Everyone has their method, but I think ultimately you have to sit down and learn each line and verse with a piece of paper - read, recite and test yourself with the paper turned over, then when you practice with your friends really notice where you are not sure and learn it again. Memory works in cycles, so it does help to learn something, then to go back to it a couple of hours later, the following morning, two days time and so on: there is a process whereby material goes from short term to medium and long term memory and you can speed it up by recycling. Best On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:43 AM, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.auwrote: Morning All, We had our performance on Sat night and I did two short brackets with different teams. The first stint was a blast and my accompaniment needed no music so we ripped through it without a hitch. The second stint was with a different guitar and a fiddle and the guitarist had his lyrics on the floor. In the tune that he sang he was not pitching too well. I believe he was so worried about reading the words that his mind wasn’t where it should’ve been, but that’s the way it goes, it was still fun but a more inhibited effort on his part. Better next time. We played a few traditional tunes and several Louvin numbers which have harmonies. I found that a lot of the groups had good pickers but weak vocals. The jam is once a month so we aim to learn new tunes for each performance until the number steadily grows. It was interesting to see that most other groups had music stands and it seemed to be the norm. Out of interest, I read about How To Improve Your Memory and they talk about Goal Setting, Mind Mapping, Mind Mechanics and so on. I wonder if there are any school teachers that are in this group, and are there any special techniques to apply to music? I’m pretty hopeless with names on first encounter because I take in the description and features of a person, always forgetting the seemingly most important thing, the name! When I make a conscious effort to remember their name, attribute something to it, it works…but I usually forget to do this, it’s not a habit. How ironic. I better start using my Mind Tools better. H On Jul 4, 12:20 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: I have to tell you all that our guitarist invented a new mnemnonic technique based on using fish to remember the order of the verses: for example 'two dollar bill': *L*obster (Lost all my money..) *C*od (Cloudy in the west..) *D*ogfish (Dark and it's raining..) *H*ake (Homesick and lonesome...) *B*ass (Black smoke a rising..) My question is whether he should be institutionalised, or whether some kind of medication would sort him out... On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:11 PM, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.auwrote: Thanks Everyone, terrific feedback. I hope my guitarist comes through tomorrow night, I'll keep y'all informed. There is a tune where I kept confusing the verses, and in Take Your Shoes Off Moses the Fiddle asked what the word Smite meant. After several comments, laughter, discussion etc, I then always remembered that word to be in the 2nd verse and it stuck like glue. I also used to be a bit lazy with I Don't Believe You've Met My Baby (Louvin) and after deciding to learn it properly, I began
Re: Speaking of Ed Haley....
That's typcially the only thing I will seek for download--just out of print items. Otherwise I feel guilty for taking money from the players I enjoy. Well, that and live stuff. I make no apologies there. No reason for all that music to just disappear into the ether. Still feel like I should be sneaking for whatever reason... From: ljt lj...@intas.net.au To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 9:54:20 AM Subject: Re: Speaking of Ed Haley Seems to me it might be... On Jul 6, 5:29 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: same here in Spain - these sites log your ip address and can pretty much tell where you are these days, unless you connect through a proxy address in the states (people will sell you such things I believe). I don't know what the copyright status would be for Ed Haley - old recordings on an out of print cd... is file sharing ok for that? On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:28 AM, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote: This thread brings up the big picture question I have. What mp3 sites sell to Australians? If one uses a google address can they tell ..where you are from? I think the answer is yes..re rego for the groups thing and g. address. I have tried to purchase mp.3s and every time ...get the message ..not available in your country. I don't use my google address for that though. Well, I did once..and there was no joy. I am tempted to begin to just ask for files from others...which goes against what I feel is right..to be sure the artist gets the money ..for what they do. I would appreciate it...then if fellow Aussies would clue me in..what sources do you use to access mp.3 products on the net. Hat in hand here in Tassie. On Jul 6, 1:40 am, Brad Floyd jess_and_b...@hotmail.com wrote: try this one.http://mp3.rhapsody.com/ed-haley you'll have to copy and paste, I don't know how to make a link On Jul 4, 10:14 pm, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote: I too tried, they said the tune was not available in my country, nor the usa. On Jul 5, 7:41 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, but Europeans not apparently welcome! On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried here? http://www.mp3.com/albums/314170/summary.html?tag=albums;title;recent... On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.netwrote: ...I'm on the hunt for him tonight. Been looking high and low but nowhere to be found on the interwebs. Anyone willing to throw me a bone...or maybe a download, in this case? Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: workshop in houston
If it was during the weekday then I would probably be able to find a way to make it. If you brought him to Dallas, then I am sure that Charley's Guitar shop would host, and you might get more people. I would sure love to get a workshop with him. -Rek On Jul 3, 9:15 am, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys any of you near, houston enough to come in for a workshop... with Senor Long. I contacted David last night and I am trying to get enough folks in to make a worthwhile workshop! July the 12th 2 hour workshop Lemme know, Adam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: To stand, or not??
Holstein, I've worked with a number of people who use music stands in some capacity or the other. Laying papers on the floor is not really an attractive option if after every song the band is all staring down at the floor for the next song(and considering the age of most everyone I work with, squinting and an audible what's that say next?)and is not necessarily the best solution. Yea, the EC tour has music stands until everyone remembers what's next. Of course, there is no shortage of bands using music stands, just not much of it in string bands, eh? Hartford used a stand, either a regular music stand or a small stand that more resembled a tray that clipped to the mic stand. The trick for Hartford was to turn the stand nearly flat so that he could look down on it without it showing so much. In other words, the stand lies nearly flat so that the only thing that really shows is the shelf/lip the material sits on. The presence of the stand can be played down a lot and it becomes nearly invisible if the overall presentation does not include fumbling around with the stand but in lively presentation of the material at hand. Sure, it's better to know the material by heart so that it can just be belted out, but I don't think anyone is going to crucify you if you use and extra piece of equipment to get through the gig. You might try finding one of those old snazzy music stands like the brass bands used with your band logo on it. I've used one with David Long quite a bit and it becomes part of the whole presentation/look. Do what you have to, boss. Taterboy On Jul 6, 5:32 am, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.au wrote: Hey Robin, Recycling...that sounds like practice :-) I like it. Cheers from chilly Sydney...Holstein On Jul 6, 5:27 pm, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: On a slightly more serious note than the fish scheme, I think that remembering songs takes a different approach from many learning tasks, particularly if you are all singing harmony and are not free to change any words as you go along and the spirit hits you. For learning most things, it's enough to get the basic concepts and understand them and you can use memory tags to help you, but with a song you have to get it absolutely perfect and with no time to think about it. That means that techniques like mind mapping and so on are not really appropriate, unless you are trying to learn the overall structure of something like a story song, rather than the detailed words. Everyone has their method, but I think ultimately you have to sit down and learn each line and verse with a piece of paper - read, recite and test yourself with the paper turned over, then when you practice with your friends really notice where you are not sure and learn it again. Memory works in cycles, so it does help to learn something, then to go back to it a couple of hours later, the following morning, two days time and so on: there is a process whereby material goes from short term to medium and long term memory and you can speed it up by recycling. Best On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:43 AM, The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.auwrote: Morning All, We had our performance on Sat night and I did two short brackets with different teams. The first stint was a blast and my accompaniment needed no music so we ripped through it without a hitch. The second stint was with a different guitar and a fiddle and the guitarist had his lyrics on the floor. In the tune that he sang he was not pitching too well. I believe he was so worried about reading the words that his mind wasn’t where it should’ve been, but that’s the way it goes, it was still fun but a more inhibited effort on his part. Better next time. We played a few traditional tunes and several Louvin numbers which have harmonies. I found that a lot of the groups had good pickers but weak vocals. The jam is once a month so we aim to learn new tunes for each performance until the number steadily grows. It was interesting to see that most other groups had music stands and it seemed to be the norm. Out of interest, I read about How To Improve Your Memory and they talk about Goal Setting, Mind Mapping, Mind Mechanics and so on. I wonder if there are any school teachers that are in this group, and are there any special techniques to apply to music? I’m pretty hopeless with names on first encounter because I take in the description and features of a person, always forgetting the seemingly most important thing, the name! When I make a conscious effort to remember their name, attribute something to it, it works…but I usually forget to do this, it’s not a habit. How ironic. I better start using my Mind Tools better. H On Jul 4, 12:20 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: I have to tell you all that our guitarist invented a new mnemnonic technique based on using
Re: To stand, or not??
Val, Just got trifocalsHELP. Putater On Jul 2, 7:52 pm, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote: The sheet flat on the stage for prompting purposes is a good tip for songs that have lyrics that are easy to screw up, but it seems like learning the words is a fairly early and necessary step along the way to getting on top of a song, getting it performance ready. I too have failing-memory issues at times, but going over problem words immediately before a gig seems to work, and I'm much happier not having to try to read something while on stage...particularly since the advent of trifocals, which do really disturbing things to lines of type, especially at critical moments. I do better with my aging memory. On Jul 2, 1:42 pm, Pat Murphree phreem...@comcast.net wrote: Our band chose the name The Foggy Memory Boys so we can get away with things like forgotten lyrics and other screw-ups. It also excuses the use of stands. Murph - Original Message - From: The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.au To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 4:58:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: To stand, or not?? Thought I might throw this out there. The new group I’m in is having a little trouble remembering lyrics to our tunes at this stage, and we’ve got a performance on Sat night. Because we’re only doing up to six tunes, I suggested we shouldn’t have a music stand in sight. I think it looks more professional not to have a stand and you should know your music. Right or not so? Perhaps if we were doing several sets it might be a different story. I noticed a photo of EC and Co. on his recent tour with music stands on stage. It’s obviously acceptable to do this and I wonder if that was for a full show which is what it looked like. Any opinion or rule of thumb you guys go by? HK --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: To stand, or not??
A guy I work with recently got some of those and looks for all the world to have developed the palsy in his neck. I gather it's tough to decide which lens to look through. From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 3:05:59 PM Subject: Re: To stand, or not?? Val, Just got trifocalsHELP. Putater On Jul 2, 7:52 pm, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote: The sheet flat on the stage for prompting purposes is a good tip for songs that have lyrics that are easy to screw up, but it seems like learning the words is a fairly early and necessary step along the way to getting on top of a song, getting it performance ready. I too have failing-memory issues at times, but going over problem words immediately before a gig seems to work, and I'm much happier not having to try to read something while on stage...particularly since the advent of trifocals, which do really disturbing things to lines of type, especially at critical moments. I do better with my aging memory. On Jul 2, 1:42 pm, Pat Murphree phreem...@comcast.net wrote: Our band chose the name The Foggy Memory Boys so we can get away with things like forgotten lyrics and other screw-ups. It also excuses the use of stands. Murph - Original Message - From: The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.au To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 4:58:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: To stand, or not?? Thought I might throw this out there. The new group I’m in is having a little trouble remembering lyrics to our tunes at this stage, and we’ve got a performance on Sat night. Because we’re only doing up to six tunes, I suggested we shouldn’t have a music stand in sight. I think it looks more professional not to have a stand and you should know your music. Right or not so? Perhaps if we were doing several sets it might be a different story. I noticed a photo of EC and Co. on his recent tour with music stands on stage. It’s obviously acceptable to do this and I wonder if that was for a full show which is what it looked like. Any opinion or rule of thumb you guys go by? HK --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Obscure Monroe Tunes
Terry, It's about time your got off'a your ass and helped out. TB On Jul 6, 9:20 am, Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote: The ones with a * were recorded by Bill (some were live shows). Most of them are on the Bear Box sets. Some of them are on the Uncle Pen Album and some on the Master of Bluegrass album. The ones with # were on a Jimmy Campbell album. Bill played part of the tunes and I think Tater played part of them. I think the name of it was Young Opry Fiddler, but I'm not sure. Tater may know how to find the rest of them and the stories behind them. I don't. --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Obscure Monroe Tunes To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 8:48 AM Terry sweet list Any body know where a person could find Baltimore Breakdown Blue Goose * Blues for Casey #...Jimmy Campbell California forrest Fire Dead waltz *..Bear Box Sets Golden West * Lady of Blueridge *Master of Bluegrass Lochwood *..Master of Bluegrass Milenburg Joy * Bear Box Sets Nanook of the North...James Bryan did it on his fiddle album (no mando) Old Grey Mare Came Tearing out of the Wilderness *Uncle Pen Album Old Lonesome Waltz.Butch Robbins Grounded Centered and Focused Album, Tater played mando. Old Tennessee River #.Jimmy Campbell Pilgrims knob Real foot Reel Stone Coal * Texas Lone Star *...Bear Box Sets Tokyo Moonlight Waltz White Horse Breakdown Wolf Trap Blues Woodstock Hornpipe # ..Jimmy Campbell I guess the next part of the mystery is what's the story behind them! Adam On Jul 5, 4:50 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: Pete wrote this I thought Baker wrote this, but I just read the liner notes to Bakers Dozen. Says Monroe wrote it. The longest running NW BG festival is Darrington Washington. You look out from the stage to White Horse Mountain. The rumor was Baker wrote the tune on the spot, but I never believed it. then Clyde wrote My Texas roots tell me it doesn't matter if it's true as long as it's a good story. See you in the woods, Pete. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle - 96. White Horse Breakdown (?)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Obscure Monroe Tunes
I've got tape/CD recordings of most all of these tunes, but not here at the house. I've got a friend making an FTP site for it all. There's another that's floating around...Let's Get Close Together Blues. Sounds a lot like Tombstone Junction but better, IMO. I have CA Forest Fire but in a couple pieces. There are a number of these tunes in pieces on the Monroe on the Bus recordings that are floating around such as Reelfoot Reel, Nanook of the North, Pilgrim's Knob. There is a tune, Cedars of Lebanon that's a dandy, but I can't find my copy of it. I had at one time, a copy of Scrooge in it's infancy. Pretty interesting what it turned into. Tater On Jul 6, 9:20 am, Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote: The ones with a * were recorded by Bill (some were live shows). Most of them are on the Bear Box sets. Some of them are on the Uncle Pen Album and some on the Master of Bluegrass album. The ones with # were on a Jimmy Campbell album. Bill played part of the tunes and I think Tater played part of them. I think the name of it was Young Opry Fiddler, but I'm not sure. Tater may know how to find the rest of them and the stories behind them. I don't. --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Obscure Monroe Tunes To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 8:48 AM Terry sweet list Any body know where a person could find Baltimore Breakdown Blue Goose * Blues for Casey #...Jimmy Campbell California forrest Fire Dead waltz *..Bear Box Sets Golden West * Lady of Blueridge *Master of Bluegrass Lochwood *..Master of Bluegrass Milenburg Joy * Bear Box Sets Nanook of the North...James Bryan did it on his fiddle album (no mando) Old Grey Mare Came Tearing out of the Wilderness *Uncle Pen Album Old Lonesome Waltz.Butch Robbins Grounded Centered and Focused Album, Tater played mando. Old Tennessee River #.Jimmy Campbell Pilgrims knob Real foot Reel Stone Coal * Texas Lone Star *...Bear Box Sets Tokyo Moonlight Waltz White Horse Breakdown Wolf Trap Blues Woodstock Hornpipe # ..Jimmy Campbell I guess the next part of the mystery is what's the story behind them! Adam On Jul 5, 4:50 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: Pete wrote this I thought Baker wrote this, but I just read the liner notes to Bakers Dozen. Says Monroe wrote it. The longest running NW BG festival is Darrington Washington. You look out from the stage to White Horse Mountain. The rumor was Baker wrote the tune on the spot, but I never believed it. then Clyde wrote My Texas roots tell me it doesn't matter if it's true as long as it's a good story. See you in the woods, Pete. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle - 96. White Horse Breakdown (?)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Speaking of Ed Haley....
Brad! Is it really you? I thought you had moved to Siberia. TBug On Jul 5, 10:40 am, Brad Floyd jess_and_b...@hotmail.com wrote: try this one. http://mp3.rhapsody.com/ed-haley you'll have to copy and paste, I don't know how to make a link On Jul 4, 10:14 pm, ljt lj...@intas.net.au wrote: I too tried, they said the tune was not available in my country, nor the usa. On Jul 5, 7:41 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote: thanks, but Europeans not apparently welcome! On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Mark Seale mark.se...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried here? http://www.mp3.com/albums/314170/summary.html?tag=albums;title;recent... On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.netwrote: ...I'm on the hunt for him tonight. Been looking high and low but nowhere to be found on the interwebs. Anyone willing to throw me a bone...or maybe a download, in this case? Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: To stand, or not??
Well I've just been reading Richard Dawkins and how the eye has evolved 20 times independently. Shame that in our species it didn't do a very good job- perhaps I should look into some squid genes: I'm sick of this business of being forty something. Let's get a collective 20 year refund - I think the tatergroup should have some clout where it counts.. On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Steve Cantrell sec...@bellsouth.net wrote: A guy I work with recently got some of those and looks for all the world to have developed the palsy in his neck. I gather it's tough to decide which lens to look through. -- *From:* mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com *To:* Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Monday, July 6, 2009 3:05:59 PM *Subject:* Re: To stand, or not?? Val, Just got trifocalsHELP. Putater On Jul 2, 7:52 pm, Val Mindel vmin...@gmail.com wrote: The sheet flat on the stage for prompting purposes is a good tip for songs that have lyrics that are easy to screw up, but it seems like learning the words is a fairly early and necessary step along the way to getting on top of a song, getting it performance ready. I too have failing-memory issues at times, but going over problem words immediately before a gig seems to work, and I'm much happier not having to try to read something while on stage...particularly since the advent of trifocals, which do really disturbing things to lines of type, especially at critical moments. I do better with my aging memory. On Jul 2, 1:42 pm, Pat Murphree phreem...@comcast.net wrote: Our band chose the name The Foggy Memory Boys so we can get away with things like forgotten lyrics and other screw-ups. It also excuses the use of stands. Murph - Original Message - From: The Holstein Kid st...@senatorgroup.com.au To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 4:58:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: To stand, or not?? Thought I might throw this out there. The new group I’m in is having a little trouble remembering lyrics to our tunes at this stage, and we’ve got a performance on Sat night. Because we’re only doing up to six tunes, I suggested we shouldn’t have a music stand in sight. I think it looks more professional not to have a stand and you should know your music. Right or not so? Perhaps if we were doing several sets it might be a different story. I noticed a photo of EC and Co. on his recent tour with music stands on stage. It’s obviously acceptable to do this and I wonder if that was for a full show which is what it looked like. Any opinion or rule of thumb you guys go by? HK --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Obscure Monroe Tunes
You had me rare Monroe FTP site. From: mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 3:16:32 PM Subject: Re: Obscure Monroe Tunes I've got tape/CD recordings of most all of these tunes, but not here at the house. I've got a friend making an FTP site for it all. There's another that's floating around...Let's Get Close Together Blues. Sounds a lot like Tombstone Junction but better, IMO. I have CA Forest Fire but in a couple pieces. There are a number of these tunes in pieces on the Monroe on the Bus recordings that are floating around such as Reelfoot Reel, Nanook of the North, Pilgrim's Knob. There is a tune, Cedars of Lebanon that's a dandy, but I can't find my copy of it. I had at one time, a copy of Scrooge in it's infancy. Pretty interesting what it turned into. Tater On Jul 6, 9:20 am, Terry Bullin tbull...@yahoo.com wrote: The ones with a * were recorded by Bill (some were live shows). Most of them are on the Bear Box sets. Some of them are on the Uncle Pen Album and some on the Master of Bluegrass album. The ones with # were on a Jimmy Campbell album. Bill played part of the tunes and I think Tater played part of them. I think the name of it was Young Opry Fiddler, but I'm not sure. Tater may know how to find the rest of them and the stories behind them. I don't. --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mando Chef saltydogli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Obscure Monroe Tunes To: Taterbugmando taterbugmando@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 8:48 AM Terry sweet list Any body know where a person could find Baltimore Breakdown Blue Goose * Blues for Casey #...Jimmy Campbell California forrest Fire Dead waltz *..Bear Box Sets Golden West * Lady of Blueridge *Master of Bluegrass Lochwood *..Master of Bluegrass Milenburg Joy * Bear Box Sets Nanook of the North...James Bryan did it on his fiddle album (no mando) Old Grey Mare Came Tearing out of the Wilderness *Uncle Pen Album Old Lonesome Waltz.Butch Robbins Grounded Centered and Focused Album, Tater played mando. Old Tennessee River #.Jimmy Campbell Pilgrims knob Real foot Reel Stone Coal * Texas Lone Star *...Bear Box Sets Tokyo Moonlight Waltz White Horse Breakdown Wolf Trap Blues Woodstock Hornpipe # ..Jimmy Campbell I guess the next part of the mystery is what's the story behind them! Adam On Jul 5, 4:50 pm, mandoho...@comcast.net wrote: Pete wrote this I thought Baker wrote this, but I just read the liner notes to Bakers Dozen. Says Monroe wrote it. The longest running NW BG festival is Darrington Washington. You look out from the stage to White Horse Mountain. The rumor was Baker wrote the tune on the spot, but I never believed it. then Clyde wrote My Texas roots tell me it doesn't matter if it's true as long as it's a good story. See you in the woods, Pete. Clyde Clevenger Just My Opinion, But It's Right Salem, Oregon Old Circle - 96. White Horse Breakdown (?)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taterbugmando group. To post to this group, send email to taterbugmando@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to taterbugmando+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/taterbugmando?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
