Re: grounded, centered, focused

2010-03-12 Thread Robin Gravina
It's just great: you could build a house on tracks like 'I'd like to be over
yonder', and the double mandolin on 'My Father's Footsteps' is just
perfectly phrased, down to the little chokes.
Undeniably a good start to the day


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well I bought it as promised, an easy way to get the music quick. I'll
 listen tomorrow with luck. Difficult to spend 7 euros more wisely

 2010/3/11, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
  Wait a minute, was Campbell on the recording? Shizzle, I forgot.
  Anyway, Bill was playing *a* fiddle...No, not Baker, sounded more like
  Brother Birch.
  Tbug
 
  On Mar 11, 1:18 pm, Mike Terry mterry2...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey Mike, what did Bill sound like on the fiddle? Was he playin the
  Kenny Baker type stuff or just playin the melody? Wow, i bet that was
  quite a moment.
 
  On Mar 11, 9:08 am, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Awesome. Thank you Mike.
 
   erik
 
   On Mar 11, 8:17 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Erik,
I think the whole thing started out as a Robins' recording, but when
he got here he communicated with Monroe and Bill basically decided
 to
come to the session, so the direction of the whole thing changed. I
was there originally to keep Bill 'on track' because he was
 beginning
to forget some of the songs we did. Funny, because I didn't really
know a few of them that well at the time.
 
We all sat LA style as you put it. Most of it was done in the
 middle
of one room without the benefit of baffles. No rhythm tracks and
layering, just all of us batting it out. On the duet stuff, I sat
right across from Bill, say within 8-10 feet. Sure, I was nervous.
 But
I learned more those couple days about Bill's right hand than I had
 in
decades previous. It became obvious quickly that I had to match his
tremolo to make the duet blend, not only the speed of it, but the
feel, the 'lope'. Bill wouldn't even play Tanyards, couldn't
remember it. He told Butch to let me play it. I told him I didn't
think I could do a better job of it than he could. He said, I know
so, so I shut up. Nothing like being put on the spot by the
 Bossman.
Buddy Spicher was on that cut too, I believe.
 
Bill came to the session dressed in a suit and one of his Stetsons.
All the rest of us came ragged out in tee shirts and jeans. The old
school guys came to the studio dressed up and ready for 'work'. A
 few
of the girlfriends came along. Of course Bill flirted with them. I
remember one of the days everybody piled out for lunch and left. I
didn't go for some reason. After hanging out in the break area for a
while I went back into the studio and slipped up on
Monroe playing Campbell's fiddle, playing Muleskinner Blues real
quiet. I listened a little bit and then said, I didn't know you
played the fiddle, Bill. He did one of those moves a possum will do
when he's wanting to be invisible..you don't see me, you don't
see me...; he put the fiddle down really slow and turned clean
 around
in the chair and just sat there like he'd been that way all along.
 
All in all it was sort of a whacky project. Randy Howard played some
pretty spectacular 'contest' style solos, Dewey Farmer did his
psychedelic hotrod style mandolin, Buddy Spicher brought integrity
 to
the tunes, Butch ran around keeping it moving along despite all the
rest of us giving him a fun-loving hard time.
 
I reckon it was the first time I'd worked with Butch and certainly
with Bill. Seems like we did another batch of tunes someplace else,
the one that included ...Over Yonder. I don't know where any of
 that
stuff went.
Tbug
 
On Mar 10, 10:24 am, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought my first-ever download MP3 record (welcome to 2010
 Erik!) and it was Butch Robins' record. It's really cool. I'm
 pretty
 sure I can tell which tracks have just Mike on them, but boy, the
 Monroe-Compton duets are really slick. Hard to tell where one
 starts
 and the other stops. I like Butch's banjo playing and singing a
 whole
 lot too, which is great, since I basically got the record for the
 mandolinin' on it. A number of cuts I can't wait to share with my
 banjo player (Doin' My Time and Short'nin' Bread, to name two).
 
 Mr. C--great work on that disc. If you have a notion and a few
 minutes
 to talk about it, I'd appreciate hearing some stories. If you need
 a
 question or two I'll pitch some at you. Was this the first time
 you
 worked with Bill and/or Butch? Did you and Monroe sit right next
 to
 each other and play together? Where you nervous? Do you still play
 two
 of my favorite new tunes, My Father's Footsteps or I'd Like to
 Be
 Over Yonder, ? Was disc recorded Nashville Style or LA Style?
 
 

F12

2010-03-12 Thread Robin Gravina
Hey all you taterbuggers
I have stumbled across a 1961 Gibson F12 going for around 1500 bucks. I
haven't had a look at it, but it's apparently mint. Is this potentially a
good deal, assuming that it sounds like a mandolin and not like a brick?
Best
Robin

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Re: F12

2010-03-12 Thread mistertaterbug
Robin,
Definitely a good deal price wise. But be prepared for it to sound
like a brick. G
Mister Encouragement

On Mar 12, 3:49 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all you taterbuggers
 I have stumbled across a 1961 Gibson F12 going for around 1500 bucks. I
 haven't had a look at it, but it's apparently mint. Is this potentially a
 good deal, assuming that it sounds like a mandolin and not like a brick?
 Best
 Robin

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Re: F12

2010-03-12 Thread Robin Gravina
I guess I'll just have to play it then! Apparently it's been sitting,
brick-like, in its case for many years. Oh yes, and there is the small
detail that I don't have the money!



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:20 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Robin,
 Definitely a good deal price wise. But be prepared for it to sound
 like a brick. G
 Mister Encouragement

 On Mar 12, 3:49 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey all you taterbuggers
  I have stumbled across a 1961 Gibson F12 going for around 1500 bucks. I
  haven't had a look at it, but it's apparently mint. Is this potentially a
  good deal, assuming that it sounds like a mandolin and not like a brick?
  Best
  Robin

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Re: F12

2010-03-12 Thread Robin Gravina
But then again, it never stopped me before


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ah, a minor detail certainly.
 TBug

 On Mar 12, 9:36 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
  I guess I'll just have to play it then! Apparently it's been sitting,
  brick-like, in its case for many years. Oh yes, and there is the small
  detail that I don't have the money!
 
  On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:20 PM, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Robin,
   Definitely a good deal price wise. But be prepared for it to sound
   like a brick. G
   Mister Encouragement
 
   On Mar 12, 3:49 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all you taterbuggers
I have stumbled across a 1961 Gibson F12 going for around 1500 bucks.
 I
haven't had a look at it, but it's apparently mint. Is this
 potentially a
good deal, assuming that it sounds like a mandolin and not like a
 brick?
Best
Robin
 
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Re: grounded, centered, focused

2010-03-12 Thread erik berry
Oh I know it. I think I've listened to it a few dozen times already. A
really good record.

erik

On Mar 12, 3:01 am, Robin Gravina robin.grav...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's just great: you could build a house on tracks like 'I'd like to be over
 yonder', and the double mandolin on 'My Father's Footsteps' is just
 perfectly phrased, down to the little chokes.
 Undeniably a good start to the day

 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Robin Gravina 
 robin.grav...@gmail.comwrote:



  Well I bought it as promised, an easy way to get the music quick. I'll
  listen tomorrow with luck. Difficult to spend 7 euros more wisely

  2010/3/11, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com:
   Wait a minute, was Campbell on the recording? Shizzle, I forgot.
   Anyway, Bill was playing *a* fiddle...No, not Baker, sounded more like
   Brother Birch.
   Tbug

   On Mar 11, 1:18 pm, Mike Terry mterry2...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hey Mike, what did Bill sound like on the fiddle? Was he playin the
   Kenny Baker type stuff or just playin the melody? Wow, i bet that was
   quite a moment.

   On Mar 11, 9:08 am, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:

Awesome. Thank you Mike.

erik

On Mar 11, 8:17 am, mistertaterbug taterbugmu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Erik,
 I think the whole thing started out as a Robins' recording, but when
 he got here he communicated with Monroe and Bill basically decided
  to
 come to the session, so the direction of the whole thing changed. I
 was there originally to keep Bill 'on track' because he was
  beginning
 to forget some of the songs we did. Funny, because I didn't really
 know a few of them that well at the time.

 We all sat LA style as you put it. Most of it was done in the
  middle
 of one room without the benefit of baffles. No rhythm tracks and
 layering, just all of us batting it out. On the duet stuff, I sat
 right across from Bill, say within 8-10 feet. Sure, I was nervous.
  But
 I learned more those couple days about Bill's right hand than I had
  in
 decades previous. It became obvious quickly that I had to match his
 tremolo to make the duet blend, not only the speed of it, but the
 feel, the 'lope'. Bill wouldn't even play Tanyards, couldn't
 remember it. He told Butch to let me play it. I told him I didn't
 think I could do a better job of it than he could. He said, I know
 so, so I shut up. Nothing like being put on the spot by the
  Bossman.
 Buddy Spicher was on that cut too, I believe.

 Bill came to the session dressed in a suit and one of his Stetsons.
 All the rest of us came ragged out in tee shirts and jeans. The old
 school guys came to the studio dressed up and ready for 'work'. A
  few
 of the girlfriends came along. Of course Bill flirted with them. I
 remember one of the days everybody piled out for lunch and left. I
 didn't go for some reason. After hanging out in the break area for a
 while I went back into the studio and slipped up on
 Monroe playing Campbell's fiddle, playing Muleskinner Blues real
 quiet. I listened a little bit and then said, I didn't know you
 played the fiddle, Bill. He did one of those moves a possum will do
 when he's wanting to be invisible..you don't see me, you don't
 see me...; he put the fiddle down really slow and turned clean
  around
 in the chair and just sat there like he'd been that way all along.

 All in all it was sort of a whacky project. Randy Howard played some
 pretty spectacular 'contest' style solos, Dewey Farmer did his
 psychedelic hotrod style mandolin, Buddy Spicher brought integrity
  to
 the tunes, Butch ran around keeping it moving along despite all the
 rest of us giving him a fun-loving hard time.

 I reckon it was the first time I'd worked with Butch and certainly
 with Bill. Seems like we did another batch of tunes someplace else,
 the one that included ...Over Yonder. I don't know where any of
  that
 stuff went.
 Tbug

 On Mar 10, 10:24 am, erik berry eberr...@gmail.com wrote:

  I just bought my first-ever download MP3 record (welcome to 2010
  Erik!) and it was Butch Robins' record. It's really cool. I'm
  pretty
  sure I can tell which tracks have just Mike on them, but boy, the
  Monroe-Compton duets are really slick. Hard to tell where one
  starts
  and the other stops. I like Butch's banjo playing and singing a
  whole
  lot too, which is great, since I basically got the record for the
  mandolinin' on it. A number of cuts I can't wait to share with my
  banjo player (Doin' My Time and Short'nin' Bread, to name two).

  Mr. C--great work on that disc. If you have a notion and a few
  minutes
  to talk about it, I'd appreciate hearing some stories. If you need
  a
  question or two I'll pitch some at you. Was this the first time
  you
  worked with Bill and/or Butch? Did you and 

RE: F12

2010-03-12 Thread Richard Brown

You might be able to make this mando into a decent instrument with another 
$1500. Gibson really kind of reached their nadir in instrument finishes and 
this f-12 may have may have on of gibson's extra heavy toneguard finishes. 
Some good luthier may have some thoughts of a newfinish, regraduating the top 
or other tricks of the trade that could make the 12 sound better. After all 
the instrument has at least 50 or more year old wood hidden under the heavy 
laquer finish. It is at least worth a good look! also remember that even a 
prewar loar may not sound up to snuff after sitting aroud unplayed for so many 
years.Good luckRSB

From: robin.grav...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:49:25 +0100
Subject: F12
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com

Hey all you taterbuggers
I have stumbled across a 1961 Gibson F12 going for around 1500 bucks. I haven't 
had a look at it, but it's apparently mint. Is this potentially a good deal, 
assuming that it sounds like a mandolin and not like a brick?


Best
Robin






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