note: strange behaviour when fetching mail after system restore from image (old registry)
Hello bats, on Thu, 19. Feb 2004 at 02:36:14 +0100 I wrote: d> I just went to a backup (image) of my system partition that was two d> days old and recognized strange behaviour while fetching mail: Of course, this is probably because of the "last message marker" stored somewhere in the Registry, I assume - but as you can see this is a bad idea.. this "highwater marker" should be stored with the accounts, I propose. Because now, I'm downloading the whole bunch again.. this is bad, but IMHO better not disturb that and Kill Dupes afterwards.. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
strange behaviour when fetching mail after system restore from image (old registry)
Hello bats, I just went to a backup (image) of my system partition that was two days old and recognized strange behaviour while fetching mail: [02:22:48] C: Connected to 127.0.0.1, port 110 [02:22:48] S: +OK POP3 POPFile (v0.20.1) server ready [02:22:48] C: USER xxx [02:22:49] S: +OK May I have your password, please? [02:22:49] C: PASS xxx [02:22:50] S: +OK mailbox has 580 messages (2497411 octets) [02:22:50] C: STAT [02:22:50] S: +OK 580 2497411 [02:22:50] C: LIST [02:22:50] S: +OK mailbox has 580 messages (2497411 octets) [02:22:51] S: 1 3486 [...] [02:22:52] S: 580 4645 [02:22:52] S: . [02:22:52] C: UIDL [02:23:52] S: -ERR no response from mail server [02:23:52] C: TOP 1 1 [02:24:20] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) [...] [02:24:21] S: !!! Socket error: #10054 (0x2746) The "socket error" appeared 585 times while there were only 580 mails. After fetching nothing TB said 580 mails, 580 new. The POPFile log does not say ANYTHING about this session..?! What I also found confusing was that tb said "Retrieiving (sic!) message header #1 (1/580)" for quite a while, though I did not invoke the dispatcher and have no selective download filters. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 2.04.3 test release
Hello all, Wednesday, February 18, 2004, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > [+] More sensible settings for choosing Working Directory what this means please? > [+] THEBAT.INI file in the program directory can be used for automatic > installation on networks Stef, full description of included parametres should be available in this file (because it is not available in help). And IMHO You should create "protocol.ini" in every account as default. With logging turned off and with full description of parametres. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.04.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 2.04.3 test release
Hi Miroslav, MF> if the mail folder '%APPDATA%\BatMail' is selected, the files are still MF> present after the deletion of TB. Good spot. :-) Fixed - it's the uninstallation program's fault. Thank you! -- Cheers, Stefan ..."Some people strengthen the society just by being the kind of people they are." - John W. Gardner pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 2.04.3 test release
Hi Jonathan, JA> Aren't these two considered "new features"? Surely new features should JA> be fully tested before being put into a final release... or did I miss JA> something? Did you see the final release? ;-) Me neither - it's still in works. Because the release date is close, I've been testing it for some hours by myself, so I'm 98% sure everything is fine with these two (2% is enough to delay the release for more testing, though - that's why it's still not declared as an official release). These features can only be tested on the pre-release stage because it's when all files are getting together and installation routine can be tested in full. -- Best regards, Stefan ..."I'm an idealist. I don't know where I'm going, but I'm on my way." - Carl Sandburg pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 2.04.3 test release
On Thursday, February 19, 2004, at 2:09:41 AM, Stefan Tanurkov spewed forth what is to be beheld below: M>> * The selection still causes bugs when expanding threads and scrolling M>> the window at the same time > Well, I've added additional repaint, but I'm not 100% sure it will > help. However, I'm yet to reproduce it for second time - it happened > just once here since you had mentioned it... Take this thread, this long "2.04.3 test release" one. Mark my message (THIS one) as unread. Collapse the thread. Scroll the window up, so that it'd have to scroll down to show my message once you expand the thread. Now hit Ctrl+Right or whatever you have for Next Unread. -- |\ /| \~~~/ \~~~/ | \/ | /\ > < \~/ >
Re[2]: 2.04.3 test release
Dear MaXxX, M> * The column right-click menu still has no info as to what the M> "generic" and "none" things are Well, the menu is all about View Modes... On the other hand, what would be a replacement for (none)? I've made it "No View Mode", but it's not precisely what it really means. No View Mode is still a View Mode :-) M> * The selection still causes bugs when expanding threads and scrolling M> the window at the same time Well, I've added additional repaint, but I'm not 100% sure it will help. However, I'm yet to reproduce it for second time - it happened just once here since you had mentioned it... -- All the Best! Stefan ..."Real love stories never have endings." - Richard Bach pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 2.04.3 test release
On Thursday, February 19, 2004, at 1:19:45 AM, fear chilled people's souls as Jonathan Angliss whispered in a sinister voice: >> [+] More sensible settings for choosing Working Directory >> [+] THEBAT.INI file in the program directory can be used for automatic >> installation on networks > Aren't these two considered "new features"? Surely new features should > be fully tested before being put into a final release... or did I miss > something? I've always thought so, too. But you _did_ miss one thing: TB!'s work schedule does not follow that rule. Too bad, if it did, we'd have a much more stable Bat now. -- |\ /| \~~~/ \~~~/ | \/ | /\ > < \~/ >
Re: 2.04.3 test release
On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 10:44:35 PM, a fearless knight known as Stefan Tanurkov entered the dragon's lair and exclaimed: > I hope it's the last one :-) The sorting works fine, good job (though a small tweak it was :)). The dropdown completion lists are well-aligned now. But: * The column right-click menu still has no info as to what the "generic" and "none" things are * The selection still causes bugs when expanding threads and scrolling the window at the same time -- |\ /| \~~~/ \~~~/ | \/ | /\ > < \~/ >
Re: no message loaded - part 2
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 01:49:44 +0200, Luga wrote: >At opening these letters gives out the message - "no message loaded" >When The bat! will start to understand the given format? It will never. Your letters have a malformed Content-type header- field. In other words: your own .msg files are to blame. In order to be correctly understood by The Bat! the Content-type field should look like this: Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2a44b9bc658196def440be15748efb01" Arjan -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test release.
Hi Stefan, Tuesday, February 17, 2004, 5:14:10 PM, you wrote: ST> Dear Peter, PG>> OK, I realize that the IMAP issues with the attachments are not going PG>> to be fixed, ST> Hmm. Which ones you mean exactly? I was too fast deciding that Synchronize All Messages will solve all the problems. The oldest one is still here: sometimes (yeah, I know it is a bad word) TB! shows random old message when user choose the message from the list in the folder. The only way to restore the functionality is to clear the folder cache. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Connection Center Graphics
Hello bats, on Wed, 18. Feb 2004 at 11:15:53 -0500 Kevin Coates wrote: K> The progress indicator shows up as a solid black circle when K> downloading mail. I presume its supposed to be graphical display. K> I have "Options|Graphical High Color Images" toggled on and using an K> ATI AIW 9800 Pro with 1200x1600 display. Cannot confirm on Radeon 7500, 1600x1200. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: error with checking PGP signature with GnuPG
Hello bats, on Wed, 18. Feb 2004 at 18:06:52 +0200 Stefan Tanurkov wrote: >>> Filed this: >>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002442 MS>> Could you solve this problem? S> No, because it seems to depend on your GPG settings. TB! merely calls S> GPG to perform operations in hope GPG is configured correctly. How do you call gpg for this? AFAIR this worked when I switched to GPG, which could have been around beta 51. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Connection Center Graphics
Hello TBBeta! The progress indicator shows up as a solid black circle when downloading mail. I presume its supposed to be graphical display. I have "Options|Graphical High Color Images" toggled on and using an ATI AIW 9800 Pro with 1200x1600 display. -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v2.04.2 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 (see kludges for my pgp key) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: error with checking PGP signature with GnuPG
Hi Stefan On Wednesday, February 18, 2004 5:06:52 PM you wrote: > No, because it seems to depend on your GPG settings. TB! merely calls > GPG to perform operations in hope GPG is configured correctly. Could you please send me the exact string with all parameters which is calling gpg? -- Best regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 2.04.2 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message list font - different size
Hello bats, on Wed, 18. Feb 2004 at 17:09:26 +0100 MaXxX wrote: >> you encoded your To: line in base64. M> I wonder why. I have no high-ASCII characters in my address... You answered to "Marcus Ohlström" and put his name into your To: header line. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: error with checking PGP signature with GnuPG
Hello bats, on Wed, 18. Feb 2004 at 16:57:48 +0100 Martin Schoch wrote: >> Filed this: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002442 M> Bugnote added today. Thanks. Adding no-default-keyring to gnupg.conf helps, but I wonder what functional sideeffect this has?! -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: bug: incorrect password char for OpenPGP password fields
Hello bats, on Tue, 17. Feb 2004 at 21:03:04 +0100 I wrote: d> the display of '|' instead of standard dots has been fixed for account d> passwords, but still remains for the (de|en)crypting passphrase input d> boxes. Fixed for 2.04.2.. :) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message list font - different size
On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 4:52:04 PM, DAniel hAhler picked up a feather, dipped its tip in ink, and began scribbling: > you encoded your To: line in base64. I wonder why. I have no high-ASCII characters in my address... -- |\ /| \~~~/ \~~~/ | \/ | /\ > < \~/ >
Re[2]: error with checking PGP signature with GnuPG
Hello Martin, >> Filed this: >> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002442 MS> Could you solve this problem? No, because it seems to depend on your GPG settings. TB! merely calls GPG to perform operations in hope GPG is configured correctly. -- Cheers, Stefan I didn't write this; a very complex macro did. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Message list font - different size
Hello bats, on Wed, 18. Feb 2004 at 15:58:14 +0100 MaXxX wrote: CP>>> What could cause this to happen? >> 8 bit characters in message headers. It always has and always will. >> If the default message list display font doesn't support the >> character set required, a near equivalent is used instead. M> However, my message was a reply to Marcus Ohlström (note the umlaut) - M> so his message should've been differently displayed as well. And it M> was not. Odd? With me, both messages are displayed ok and the difference in header encoding I noticed was that Marcus does not encode his From: line, but you encoded your To: line in base64. I use Tahoma font for my messagelist. -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.04.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: error with checking PGP signature with GnuPG
Hi dAniel On Monday, February 2, 2004 12:12:53 AM you wrote: > Filed this: > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002442 Bugnote added today. -- Best regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 2.04.2 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: error with checking PGP signature with GnuPG
Hi dAniel On Monday, February 2, 2004 12:12:53 AM you wrote: >>> gpg: Signature made 01/31/04 19:22:26 using RSA key ID 6F7254D5 >>> gpg: renaming `D:/GnuPG\pubring.gpg' to >>> `D:/GnuPG\pubring.bak' failed: MS>> Confirmed. MS>> When using a GPG key manager there is no problem. > Filed this: > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002442 Could you solve this problem? I think that id could be also a GnuPG problem... Or I found a way to get it work: In the GnuPG configuration gpg.conf file I added the following line no-default-keyring and it works now! -- Best regards, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 2.04.2 on Windows 2000 5.0 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 2.04.2 test release
Hello Stefan Tanurkov, > Please say it's OK to be released :-) HTML Mails are still not correctly redirected. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002558 -- best regards Miroslav Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
SmartBat
Does the quick search in SmartBat do any thing? I suspected it was for searching through the text, but it appears, at this point, to do nothing. Also, are there plans to offer some configurable settings for it? I find that I have different editor needs for mail composing and text handling . . . -- Peace, be well J Allen R Day http://protempore.org The trial lawyers are very politically powerful. But Here in Texas we took them on & got some good medical medical malpractice. -George W. Bush The Bat! 2.04.2, BayesIt! 0.4gm | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: SmartBat woes
Dear Stuart, SH> I worked on a support desk for years and never got the chance to use SH> that line. Well, when I was working on support, I never used that line either. :-) Sure enough, it was a joke. However, I cannot confirm - the record is displayed in the list. -- Cheers, Stefan If you stand up to be counted someone will take your seat. Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: SmartBat woes
On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 3:56:46 PM, Stefan Tanurkov picked up a feather, dipped its tip in ink, and began scribbling: M>> - annoying and confusing ":-)" in the title, seems to suggest that M>> this whole window is a joke > It IS a joke - we've put it there because it sounds like SmartPad. You don't understand, I think. That smiley there seems to suggest that not only the name, but the whole window is a joke, a non-feature, an Easter egg. M>> - unwieldy "left-aligned tabs", unlike anything in TB! > They look ugly at any other location. They look ugly where they are, as well. But at the top they'd at least be consistent. M>> - Event Actions in SmartBat scheduler: M>> - "ConfirmNotify:0;SearchFolders:0;" what is this?? variable M>> dumps inside a program?? > Those parameters maybe useful to see :-) Because each action has its > own set of parameters, it's not very usable to give a column for each > parameter. If parameters are for users to see, then make them look like parameters and not like code: "ConfirmNotify:1;SearchFolders:1" looks much, much better as "Confirm notifications, Search in folders". M>> - Advanced event settings: M>> - "Button-style" tabs this time. Isn't it A BIT much? Left-aligned M>> tabs in the main SmartBat window, top-aligned in event settings, M>> and not button-styled? > We haven't found a better solution yet. Why not regular tabs? M>> - what is "cron format" for a typical Windows user? > Please read the help - the Scheduler section ;-) I know what cron format is, believe me. There is enough screen space here, however, to provide a simple explanation, instead of a cryptic name. M>> - Creating an event at date 31-12-2100 causes its time to be not M>> displayed at all in the event list > Don't do that then. ;-) No, you go fix your program. ;-) M>> - entering a multi-line description causes control chars to be M>> displayed in the events list > This is a bit odd, but let's leave it for the next release. Maybe > we'll have better idea for that.. :-) It's not "a bit odd", it's a big hairy ugly bug. How about just truncating the description to the first #10 character, for the event list display... -- |\ /| \~~~/ \~~~/ | \/ | /\ > < \~/ >
Re: SmartBat woes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M>> - Creating an event at date 31-12-2100 causes its time to be not M>> displayed at all in the event list ST> Don't do that then. ;-) I worked on a support desk for years and never got the chance to use that line. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.04.2 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm SE PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com I used to work in a blanket factory, but it folded. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: "Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com"; iQA/AwUBQDN/9NttnLhkydF1EQK2sACfT18FxI0vNvGEojxgPFaCDegfXroAnivL 1kPGyBGbcG8PgA2fNi979e73 =ACdU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
