Re: Missing feature in NFS

2004-09-13 Thread Maurice Snellen
On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 18:28 (which was Wednesday,
September 8, 2004 at 17:28 where I am) 9Val wrote:

MS I still dearly miss the option to be able to (ctrl+)drag-n-drop my
MS filters to copy/move them. Can we please get this back?

 It  is  still there but needs Alt pressed to start drag (like d'n'd of
 folders in main window)

OK, Alt+Drag works for moving them, but Ctrl+Alt+Drag now makes the
dragged filter a subfilter of the one I drop it on.

What I really need is an 'in-place' copy, i.e. copy the filter
_without_ having it end up at the bottom of the list. The list for
this particular account has hundreds of filters that are sorted
alphabetically which differ only slightly (the filters sort
virus-alerts into per-virustype folders) and having to drag them back
into place is extremely unwanted. The previous behaviour of being able
to ctrl-drag a filter to copy it to the location it was dropped was
much easier.

Furthermore, while working on this I noticed something else: because I
don't normally drag something into place if the destination isn't
visible, I used Ctrl+Up to move the filter into place. If you keep
these keys depressed in a sufficiently long list of filters, I noticed
that TB! spends so much time re-painting the criteria-frame, that
before it gets a chance to update the tree of filters, another move is
noticed. This leads to the situation that the tree of filters looks
like an empty control with TB! frantically trying to keep the filter
criteria displayed, causing one to no longer be able to know where you
are in the list, and thus when to release the Up-key. It would be more
logical if while the Ctrl+Up is kept depressed, TB! would update only
the tree of filters and leave the criteria frame alone. Moreover,
since I'm only _moving_ the filter and not changing anything in it,
there is no point in repainting that frame anyway.

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TB to run off a USB flash drive

2004-09-13 Thread Foster, Graham
Hello tbbeta

  I'd like to see some version of TB be able to be run directly off a
  USB flash device, then I can carry all my e-mail around in my
  pocket. Anyone support this future feature request?
  https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3611
  
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Re: TB to run off a USB flash drive

2004-09-13 Thread Foster, Graham
Hello Bernd

 The question is, why does TheBat still use registry-settings? Without
 this and using relative pathes in every part of the program it would
 be no problem...
Obviously I agree with this - and it would make backup / restore far
simpler too, However, it seems that unless someone logs something in
BugTracker, these suggestions could get lost. If you support the
request (and I assume you do), then please endorse / second the
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Re: S/MIME check mark still there in AB after deleting certificates

2004-09-13 Thread Martin Sebald
Hi Alexander!

 I don't understand. I was talking about one single person in the address
 book, let's call the person Alexander Leschinsky. This person/entry has a
 S/MIME certificate under Certificates. The check mark for Cert in the
 address book overview is active for this entry. Now I delete all
 certificates out of this entry, the person Alexander Leschinsky has no
 certificates anymore. But the check mark is still set in the overview.
 Ups... I think about different matter - totally different. For your case
 restart of The Bat! can help - AB's stored in memory and The Bat
 overwrite (if needed) files only on exit

Ah you thought about something different. No Problem.

I tried the restart right after deleting the certificate out of the entry.
Did not work, it's still there after days and several restarts and upgrades
of TheBat.

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NFS: folder creation option, please get it back

2004-09-13 Thread Maurice Snellen
Listmembers:

While the NFS now has an option to have the destination folder created
when necessary on the dialog for specifying it, the option to actually
create the new folder then and there has disappeared.

I use this quite often and have always found it an advantage of TB!
over other MUA's that I didn't have to think about creating the folder
before starting on the filter.

While I don't doubt the usefulness of the option to have the folder
auto-created, I like being able to create the folder and specify it's
properties while creating a filter. Can we please get this back?

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Re: TB to run off a USB flash drive

2004-09-13 Thread Bernd Distler
Hi Graham!

Just now (on 09/13/2004 at 12:30) you dropped the lines:

 If you support the request (and I assume you do), then please
 endorse / second the request.

Yes i do. But there is already a wish like this...
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003117
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Re: NFS: folder creation option, please get it back

2004-09-13 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Maurice and list,

On Monday, September 13, 2004 at 11:59:17 GMT +0200 (which was 11:59
where I live) Maurice Snellen wrote (at least in parts) and made these
valuable points on the subject of NFS: folder creation option, please
get it back:

 While I don't doubt the usefulness of the option to have the folder
 auto-created, I like being able to create the folder and specify it's
 properties while creating a filter. Can we please get this back?

I support your suggestion.

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Re: TB to run off a USB flash drive

2004-09-13 Thread Kevin J. Menard, Jr.
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:04:21 +0100, Foster, Graham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello tbbeta
 
   I'd like to see some version of TB be able to be run directly off a
   USB flash device, then I can carry all my e-mail around in my

Although not the best solution to this, I used to use The Batch!
(http://www2.skwire.net/~n0On3/TheBatch/) with reasonable success. 
This is going back 1.5 years though, so I don't if it's been kept up
to date.

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Re: TB to run off a USB flash drive

2004-09-13 Thread Foster, Graham
Hello Bernd


 Yes i do. But there is already a wish like this...
 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003117
Apologies for missing this item.. I did use search for INI file and
registry before submitting the bug. Obviously missed it. I suggest
that Max (or other) updates my entry to RELATE to the earlier one
which also has a great deal of support.

Nice to know that great minds think alike :-)
  
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Re: NFS: folder creation option, please get it back

2004-09-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Maurice!

On Monday, September 13, 2004, 4:59 AM, you wrote:

MS While I don't doubt the usefulness of the option to have the folder
MS auto-created, I like being able to create the folder and specify it's
MS properties while creating a filter. Can we please get this back?

I have not had occasion to need this yet, but I would definitely like
the option to create the new folder, while working on creating the
filter, to be there. I can see, down the road, where I will in the
future be needing this capability. It's a real pain to start doing
something and then have to stop, do the prerequisite elsewhere, then
come back and start over.

I second the request expressed in the subject line.

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Some questions and feature request.

2004-09-13 Thread Fabio Cipparone
Hello,

I have just upgraded to version 3.0 and would like to ask a few questions:

1)I have read on the mailing list that version 3.0 pro will have all the
features of securebat. I have browsed through the menus but could not find any
option to enable encryption. I also took a look to the help file but just
realized that the help file has not been upgraded (when you load the help file
you find written What's new in version 2). Does this mean that you cannot
*yet* use such features that will be added in the future? If the feature is
already available can you please help me find which option I have to check?

2)I have approx 20 accounts on the bat. When an account is created the program
adds under the get new mail icon the name of the account. The accounts are
sorted exactly in the order they were created. However if you lately move the
accounts using alt+left mouse button in the account pane the list under the get
new mail icon does not change accordingly. Any way to change also that list?

BTW it would be useful to have the possibility to create account groups. For
example I check every day certain account and only every week certain other
accounts. Right now I have checked the option ignore check all account requests
for the accounts I check weekly. Once a week I have to select them singularly to
check if new mail is available. If I could create a group weekly accounts
the entire proces would be easier.

3)When I was still using version 2.0 I installed bayesit antispam plugin
(version 04gm). Later on I upgraded bayesit plugin by downloading the zip file of
version 061 and by overwriting the files in the directory under the bat.
As I read in this mailing list one of the new features of version 3.0 is an
upgraded antispam plugin (am I right?). However if I look in options -- plugins
I only find bayesit plugin and the version is still 04gm. Is this normal?

Another question is: If I want to backup the learning ability of the filter
which files do I have to save? and how do I have to proceed to restore such
files?

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Re: NFS: folder creation option, please get it back

2004-09-13 Thread Mic Cullen
At 07:22 [GMT-0500] on Monday September 13 (actual time - 8:22pm on Monday in
Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:

[snips]

MS While I don't doubt the usefulness of the option to have the folder
MS auto-created, I like being able to create the folder and specify it's
MS properties while creating a filter. Can we please get this back?

Mary I have not had occasion to need this yet, but I would definitely like
Mary the option to create the new folder, while working on creating the
Mary filter, to be there. I can see, down the road, where I will in the
Mary future be needing this capability. It's a real pain to start doing
Mary something and then have to stop, do the prerequisite elsewhere, then
Mary come back and start over.

If that was the case, I'd agree, but it isn't. You can tell it to auto-create,
and it works fine. (I did it this morning for a new filter.)

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Re: NFS: folder creation option, please get it back

2004-09-13 Thread Maurice Snellen
On Monday, September 13, 2004 at 20:30 (which was Monday, September
13, 2004 at 14:30 where I am) Mic Cullen [MC] wrote:

MC If that was the case, I'd agree, but it isn't. You can tell it to auto-create,
MC and it works fine. (I did it this morning for a new filter.)

The auto-created folder will have the default settings that any newly
created folder has (unread on ticker, no clean up, no limits, no
viewmode).

Your method would require me to create the filter with auto-create
active, then do a refilter and after the folder got created go to it's
properties and change them to what I wanted them to be in the first
place.

Also note that the option to create a new folder while in the process
of defining a filter existed in OFS, therefore I consider removing
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Re: NFS: folder creation option, please get it back

2004-09-13 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Mic!

On Monday, September 13, 2004, 7:30 AM, you wrote:

MC If that was the case, I'd agree, but it isn't. You can tell it to
MC auto-create, and it works fine. (I did it this morning for a new
MC filter.)

Suppose you want to give the folder a different name, once created. Is
that possible?

I've made only four filters under the NFS to this point. I know that I
should begin to practice with it more. So I'll go make a new one and
see how this auto-create function goes.

I can't believe how much less timid I'm getting about unfamiliar
software in the last three months. I'm writing calmly to you about
playing with filters and my heart isn't skipping a single beat and I'm
not even tempted to begin eating a chocolate bar for breakfast!

It's the wonderful support on this list that's changing me. :)

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Re: NFS: folder creation option, please get it back

2004-09-13 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Monday, September 13, 2004, at 11:59:17 [UTC+0200] (Monday, September
13, 2004 11:59 my local time) Maurice Snellen wrote:

 While the NFS now has an option to have the destination folder created
 when necessary on the dialog for specifying it, the option to actually
 create the new folder then and there has disappeared.

Please tell me from where this option disappeared? I have it in both
Create filter... dialogs (in main menu Special and in context menu
of message list). The button near the Move to the folder field is the
same as in old filter system. You have the possibility to define all
folder properties when using this button.

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Re[3]: 3.0.0.11 - NFS: References header field not working

2004-09-13 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Stuart,
Monday, September 13, 2004, 12:23:54 PM, you wrote:

M Just out of curiosity, was my 4 mids theory in the right
M direction?

 Unfortunately no

MO Ha, I knew it! :-)

 Anyway, it's good to know it is fixed and that we don't have to look
 for any other theory.

MO Indeed, especially since we, at least I, didn't have a clue.

SC I was just about to confirm your findings when I read 9Val's reply. Oh
SC well at least its fixed.

It appears to be working correctly with 3.0.0.14.

Looks like it was: [-] NFS : References weren't unpacked before
filtering.

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Re: NFS - how do I create a filter for old messages?

2004-09-13 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Maurice Snellen

-
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, at 17:39:05 [GMT +0200] (which was 8:39 AM where
I live) you wrote:

 You can't do that with a filter. As you 'pondered' yourself: what
 would trigger the filter to run?

It depends on how one looks at it. There are several mail clients that
trigger a rule when the folder is opened, closed or a new message
arrives (by a move operation). IMO, that is how rules should be
triggered. TB appears to not work that way (at least it doesn't for
me).

 You can use the main folder's deleting settings to do what you are
 trying to create a filter for. Go to the folder's properties and have
 it delete the messages after 30 days. Then go to the 'Deletion' tab.
 Check the option 'Use folder-specific deletion settings'.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available

2004-09-13 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Monday, September 13, 2004, 19:12, 9Val wrote:

 Here is a short list of changes:
 [-] NFS : References weren't unpacked before filtering

Confirmed as fixed, thanks!

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HTML Error (Was Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available)

2004-09-13 Thread Duncan Strand

Didn't see this in the previous beta:

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List of shortcut keys

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available

2004-09-13 Thread ArchY
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Re: HTML Error (Was Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available)

2004-09-13 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Duncan Strand

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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, at 18:47:30 [GMT +0100] (which was 10:47 AM where
I live) you wrote:

 Didn't see this in the previous beta:

 Invalid HTML !
 Please forward this message to developers. 
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 EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00403EEF in module
 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 028B1000

Same here, the HTML errors are back (running IMAP).

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Re: HTML Error (Was Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available)

2004-09-13 Thread Krzysztof Kudlacik
On 2004-09-13 (19:47), you wrote:
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Confirmed :[

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Re: Beta 11: NFS Flaws Not Addressed in This Beta!

2004-09-13 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 13-Sep-04 11:06am -0400, 9Val wrote:

BM A manual filter that sets message as read does not update
BM the folder list count of unread messages.

 IMAP/POP?

POP

I just checked this with beta 14.  My Read filter is
manual only by hotkey (Ctrl-Alt-X) and ONLY marks the
message as read (as an alternate to Ctrl-M).

My Ctrl-Alt-X marks the message as read but fails to change
the count in the folder window.  Your Ctrl-M does both.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available

2004-09-13 Thread Daniel Friedmann
Hello 9Val

on Monday, September 13, 2004 at 19:12:08 you wrote:

 The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available from

They're back again... :-(

Invalid HTML !
Please forward this message to developers. 
Thanks. 
EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00403EEF in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of 
address 04B4E000

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available

2004-09-13 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Crafted from The Desk on location in the Quality Lab.
Hello 9Val,

Monday, September 13, 2004, 1:12:08 PM, you wrote:

 The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available from
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/


This version downloaded and install with no problems.

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Re: Beta 11: NFS Header Field Test - Please Try

2004-09-13 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 13-Sep-04 10:38am -0400, 9Val wrote:

BM Sender tests should have failed.

 Fixed.

Thanks!  It works fine.

BM Delivery-To

 Can't reproduce

Of course, I meant to write Delivered-To.  I just checked
again with Beta 14.  In my TBBeta folder I checked to make
sure that the message tested contained:

Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And checked to make sure the filter said:

Header field - Delivered-To: contains [EMAIL PROTECTED]

All the other test filters were triggered, but not this one.
As I was checking and double checking, I noticed that of all
the header fields in the drop down box, only this one ends
in a ':'.  Is it possible the TB! is trying to find:

Delivered-To::

(Note the double colon.)

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Re: TB3.0.0.11 - Address Picker Buttons (English Language) Still Corrupt

2004-09-13 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello Avi,

The address picker buttons are working (for me) at last in TB 3.0.0.14

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available

2004-09-13 Thread Nick Andriash
On Monday, September 13, 2004, at 11:28:39 AM, 9Val wrote:

 The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available from
 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

I still seem to be having trouble with that darn CC. Again, CC reports 16
messages on Server, and although it reports that 16 messages are being
downloaded, none actually arrive on my Computer. I have to invoke the CC
another 2 or 3 times to actually have all the messages downloaded.

FYI, I leave my messages on the Server if that makes any difference.


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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available

2004-09-13 Thread Terry G. Munson
Hello Nick,

Monday, September 13, 2004, 11:30:24 AM, you wrote:

 FYI, I leave my messages on the Server if that makes any difference.

I also left my messages on the server.  Just for fun I changed the
setting to delete messages.  When I downloaded messages the number
downloaded didn't match the number that the CC reported as downloaded.

The messages were deleted from the server.

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Re: Beta 11: NFS Header Field Test - Please Try

2004-09-13 Thread 9Val
Hello Bill,  

BM As I was checking and double checking, I noticed that of all
BM the header fields in the drop down box, only this one ends
BM in a ':'.  Is it possible the TB! is trying to find:

BM Delivered-To::

BM (Note the double colon.)

Hmm, try to use Delivered-To (note without any colon)

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available

2004-09-13 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Monday, September 13, 2004, 20:30, Nick Andriash wrote:

 I still seem to be having trouble with that darn CC. Again, CC
 reports 16 messages on Server, and although it reports that 16
 messages are being downloaded, none actually arrive on my Computer.
 I have to invoke the CC another 2 or 3 times to actually have all
 the messages downloaded.

 FYI, I leave my messages on the Server if that makes any difference.

So do I (for two days) without ever seeing the same problem. FWIW.

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Re: Where filter action order might matter a lot? + suggestion!

2004-09-13 Thread Boris Anders
Hello 9Val,

Monday, September 13, 2004, 23:10 you wrote at 
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hmm, could any programmer live without variables? ;)
 Done.
Are you leaving Pranayama-zone?

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Re: Where filter action order might matter a lot? + suggestion!

2004-09-13 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

 Hmm, could any programmer live without variables? ;)
 Done.

No. And neither without beer. I owe you a few already ;-)

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Re: Where filter action order might matter a lot? + suggestion!

2004-09-13 Thread MaXxX
On Monday, September 13, 2004, at 11:20:33 PM, MaXxX spewed forth what
is to be beheld below:

 So, another tiny little request: please make the variable assignment
 parse macros... Please please... :)

... And another suggestion, perhaps simplifying things?

Condition:
 [Template/Variable] [..] [is/isn't/etc.]

If you make it work on template strings, choosing variable and
entering blahvar would work just like choosing template and
entering %_blahvar... but, oh, think of the possibilities...

 [Template] [%DATE=ddd] [is] [Sat]- filtering on Saturdays...

 [Template] [%ANYPLUGINMACRO...] [is] [anything...]
- filtering with plugins...

I am SO drooling.

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Re: Beta 11: NFS Header Field Test - Please Try

2004-09-13 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

 Items  in  drop-down  can  be edited easily, so it is not necessary to
 have header field or to create custom for filtering

Good to know, I never even thought about editing there. Are you sure it
works? ;-)

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Re: SPAM filter not working

2004-09-13 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Monday, September 13, 2004, 5:32 PM, you wrote:

M No. What you can do even better is to include X-Text-Classification:
M as a new header in Options/Preferences/Message Headers and then it will
M be available to use it in your filter this way:

so now I don't have kludges to deal with, and I can make it a message
field, nice!

M   Message field - X-Text-Classification - contains - spam

I'll set it up!

M When you add the new header in Preferences, enter it with the colon (:)
M in display as... and _without_ the colon in RFC name.

I have some that have colons in BOTH, should I change them all what
is the significance with/without??

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Re: SPAM filter not working

2004-09-13 Thread MAU
Hello Paul,

 I have some that have colons in BOTH, should I change them all what
 is the significance with/without??

Use no colon for RFC name. Otherwise filter will be looking for
X-header:: with two colons and will not find it.

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A story about duplicated messages living on the server

2004-09-13 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
Hello all!

Could anybody make the test of the server/TB combination? First, create
message to yourself and put your address also in Bcc field. Then send it to
your POP3 server, set The Bat! to leave messages on it and try to receive
mail periodically, simultaneously observing what happens.

During first connection to my server The Bat! received two messages
addressed to me. Both were identical (including Message-Id) because of Bcc
field contents. Every next connection gave me one new message identical with
originally received ones. There were two identical messages on the server
and The Bat! continuously received one of them, even showing it as new in
Mail Dispatcher window. There were several similar tests made, using Outlook
Express, Mozilla Messenger and Sylpheed (on Linux box). All these mail
clients received two original messages and then no more.

The problem is probably caused by wrong interpretation of UIDL command
results by The Bat!. Some servers create different UIDL-s for two identical
messages, but there are servers which create identical UIDL-s in such cases.
An example of POP session log is attached. I sent two test messages to
myself with my address in Bcc and The Bat! found new ones each time.

Sometimes this may be very frustrating if an user has Inbox overloaded with
identical messages. Of course, I know that sending Bcc to myself seems
stupid, but this happened not only to me in real mailing.

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(Using The Bat! v3.0.0.14 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4
with BayesIt! 0.6.21)[23:01:16]  C: Connected to server.domain.pl, port 110
[23:01:16]  S: +OK Cubic Circle's v1.31 1998/05/13 POP3 ready server_identifier
[23:01:16]  C: USER temp
[23:01:16]  S: +OK temp selected
[23:01:16]  C: PASS *
[23:01:16]  S: +OK Congratulations!
[23:01:16]  C: STAT
[23:01:16]  S: +OK 4 3574
[23:01:16]  C: LIST
[23:01:16]  S: +OK 4 messages (3574 octets)
[23:01:16]  S: 1 871
[23:01:16]  S: 2 871
[23:01:16]  S: 3 916
[23:01:16]  S: 4 916
[23:01:16]  S: .
[23:01:16]  C: UIDL
[23:01:16]  S: +OK But remember to DELETE messages REGULARLY
[23:01:16]  S: 1 1274fda44403
[23:01:16]  S: 2 1274fda44403
[23:01:16]  S: 3 1690e9ea7103
[23:01:16]  S: 4 1690e9ea7103
[23:01:16]  S: .
[23:01:16]  C: RETR 1
[23:01:16]  S: +OK 871 octets
S: message 1 header  body follows
[23:01:16]  S: .
[23:01:16]  C: RETR 2
[23:01:16]  S: +OK 871 octets
S: message 2 header  body follows
[23:01:16]  S: .
[23:01:16]  C: RETR 3
S: message 3 header  body follows
[23:01:16]  S: .
[23:01:16]  C: RETR 4
[23:01:16]  S: +OK 916 octets
S: message 4 header  body follows
[23:01:16]  S: .
[23:01:16]  C: QUIT
[23:01:16]  S: +OK Was it as good for you, as it was for me?  (clean as a baby)
[23:02:16]  C: Connected to server.domain.pl, port 110
[23:02:16]  S: +OK Cubic Circle's v1.31 1998/05/13 POP3 ready server_identifier
[23:02:16]  C: USER temp
[23:02:16]  S: +OK temp selected
[23:02:16]  C: PASS *
[23:02:16]  S: +OK Congratulations!
[23:02:16]  C: STAT
[23:02:16]  S: +OK 4 3574
[23:02:16]  C: LIST
[23:02:16]  S: +OK 4 messages (3574 octets)
[23:02:16]  S: 1 871
[23:02:16]  S: 2 871
[23:02:16]  S: 3 916
[23:02:16]  S: 4 916
[23:02:16]  S: .
[23:02:16]  C: UIDL
[23:02:16]  S: +OK But remember to DELETE messages REGULARLY
[23:02:16]  S: 1 1274fda44403
[23:02:16]  S: 2 1274fda44403
[23:02:16]  S: 3 1690e9ea7103
[23:02:16]  S: 4 1690e9ea7103
[23:02:16]  S: .
[23:02:16]  C: RETR 2
[23:02:16]  S: +OK 871 octets
S: message 2 header  body follows
[23:02:16]  S: .
[23:02:16]  C: RETR 3
[23:02:16]  S: +OK 916 octets
S: message 3 header  body follows
[23:02:16]  S: .
[23:02:16]  C: QUIT
[23:02:16]  S: +OK Was it as good for you, as it was for me?  (clean as a baby)
[23:03:16]  C: Connected to server.domain.pl, port 110
[23:03:16]  S: +OK Cubic Circle's v1.31 1998/05/13 POP3 ready server_identifier
[23:03:16]  C: USER temp
[23:03:16]  S: +OK temp selected
[23:03:16]  C: PASS *
[23:03:16]  S: +OK Congratulations!
[23:03:16]  C: STAT
[23:03:16]  S: +OK 4 3574
[23:03:16]  C: LIST
[23:03:16]  S: +OK 4 messages (3574 octets)
[23:03:16]  S: 1 871
[23:03:16]  S: 2 871
[23:03:16]  S: 3 916
[23:03:16]  S: 4 916
[23:03:16]  S: .
[23:03:16]  C: UIDL
[23:03:16]  S: +OK But remember to DELETE messages REGULARLY
[23:03:16]  S: 1 1274fda44403
[23:03:16]  S: 2 1274fda44403
[23:03:16]  S: 3 1690e9ea7103
[23:03:16]  S: 4 1690e9ea7103
[23:03:16]  S: .
[23:03:16]  C: RETR 2
[23:03:16]  S: +OK 871 octets
S: message 2 header  body follows
[23:03:16]  S: .
[23:03:16]  C: RETR 3
[23:03:16]  S: +OK 916 octets
S: message 3 header  body follows
[23:03:16]  S: .
[23:03:16]  C: QUIT
[23:03:16]  S: +OK Was it as good for you, as it was for me?  (clean as a baby)
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Re: A story about duplicated messages living on the server

2004-09-13 Thread Nick Andriash
On Monday, September 13, 2004, at 3:19:48 PM, Zygmunt wrote:

 The problem is probably caused by wrong interpretation of UIDL command
 results by The Bat!.

The problems I've been having with TB Beta's 0.8 through 0.14 not
downloading messages from the Server, may be related. My problem seems to be
that TB forgets what messages it's already downloaded, and in other cases it
just steadfastly refuses to download them even when they are new.


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Re: HTML Error (Was Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available )

2004-09-13 Thread Michael Geyer
Hi Duncan and list,

On Monday, September 13, 2004 at 18:47:30 GMT +0100 (which was 19:47
where I live) Duncan Strand wrote (at least in parts) and made these
valuable points on the subject of HTML Error (Was Re: The Bat!
3.0.0.14 Post Release is now available ):



 Didn't see this in the previous beta:

confirmed for 3.0.0.11

 Invalid HTML !

confirmed for 3.0.0.14

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Re: SPAM filter not working

2004-09-13 Thread Scott Guthrie
Hello Paul,

Monday, September 13, 2004, 4:45:30 PM, you wrote:

M   Message field - X-Text-Classification - contains - spam

PC I'll set it up!

M When you add the new header in Preferences, enter it with the colon (:)
M in display as... and _without_ the colon in RFC name.

PC I have some that have colons in BOTH, should I change them all what
PC is the significance with/without??


FWIW Paul, I had bad luck with header when NFS first came on line,
and mine (which works) looks like this:

Message Source - contains - X-Text-Classification: spam

However, I may have been using the colon when I tested the header
option.

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