Returning to non encrypted state.

2005-01-05 Thread Dean

Hello,

 I was just wondering if any one had tried to return to a
 non-encrypted state after they had used the ver. 3.0.2.10 in the
 encrypted mode?

 I was going to use the regular Tools  backup. Then reinstall TheBat!
 Will I be able to use the backup since it will be in the encrypted
 state?

 Just curious as I'm about to move to a new machine and want to make
 sure I have all my options.

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Re: Returning to non encrypted state.

2005-01-05 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Wednesday, January 5, 2005, at 03:19:26 [UTC-0600] (Wednesday,
January 5, 2005 10:19 my local time) Dean wrote:

  I was going to use the regular Tools  backup. Then reinstall TheBat!
  Will I be able to use the backup since it will be in the encrypted
  state?

The backup copy is not encrypted until you use backup with password
option. Even then you may restore all data working either in encrypted
or unencrypted mode of The Bat!, because encrypted message base does not
depend on encrypted backup copy. I tried this successfully several times
in 3.02.10.


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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Thomas Fernandez  everyone else,

on 05-Jan-2005 at 02:23 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote:

 However, I need the account level filters only to makr the messages with
 something so I know which account they were first sent to, before being
 moved to the folders that they share, so I know which account to reply
 from. I chose to try colour groups.

Wouldn't it be possible to pick the original TO information in a %IF
clause and automagically determine the correct account to use for the
reply?

Something like...

%IF(%OTOADDR=[EMAIL PROTECTED],%ACCOUNT=germany,%ACCOUNT=intl)%-

...in your reply template?

Just an idea.

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Re: Change password with On The Fly Encryption

2005-01-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello hggdh,

  A reminder of what hggdh on TBBETA typed on:
  04 January 2005 at 23:08:53 GMT +0100

h If I am correct, then what you propose could not work.

 Your not correct as I've just done the very thing I suggested and had no
 trouble at all.

 I transferred my OTFE installation from WinXP to my Linux box after first
 creating a backup. When I first ran it it asked if I wanted OTFE and I
 said no.

 So I converted an OTFE install into a non OTFE install restoring from a
 backup created with the OTFE install... If you follow.

 My suggestion will work as it worked perfectly for me.


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Re: Returning to non encrypted state.

2005-01-05 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Dean,

  A reminder of what Dean on TBBETA typed on:
  05 January 2005 at 09:36:51 GMT +0100

D  I was just wondering if any one had tried to return to a
D  non-encrypted state after they had used the ver. 3.0.2.10 in the
D  encrypted mode?

 I have, see my previous posts.


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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 02:23, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

BA Yes, I can confirm this behavior, but can't say whether this is a
BA bug or wanted. But I think this is wanted, because if a filter
BA matches a message, filtering stops (if not [X] Continue processing
BA with other filters is set).

 I just tested it and it works as you described on my home computer.

 However, this is not what I want. When the first common filter
 catches, I don't want the other 100 or so common filters tested.
 simply because it takes minutes and on occasion, makes TB choke on it
 (tried it).

Create a parent filter matching all messages and make your common
filters subfilters of this catch-all-filter. Make sure Continue
processing with other filters is ticked for the parent filter.

When a filter matches, TB! should stop processing filters within the
same sub filter group but continue through other filters below the
parent filter. I have not tested this with common filters, but it works
with account level filters and it seems to be exactly what you want.

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Re: Returning to non encrypted state.

2005-01-05 Thread Dean
Hi Tony,
 Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 4:37:50 AM, you wrote:

TB  I have, see my previous posts.

Thanks guys, evidently one of my servers must have gone down with all
the snow that's falling around us.  I received double the normal
amount of email and the entire thread where your message was located
came in this am (my time;)  Pretty much answered everything I wanted
to ever know;)

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Re[3]: Problem starting The Bat!

2005-01-05 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello James,
Tuesday, January 4, 2005, 11:00:53 PM, you wrote:

AdG Well, judging from screenshot1, this SPX thingy may have something
AdG to do with it.

JO As a side topic... I may be mistaken, but given the icon and where
JO this 'splash' is placed I believe the SPX program is what he used to
JO make the screen captures.

Yes, it is a new screen capture program I am trying. The graphic was
not in the original. I have no idea how it new to add it to the email,
but it didn't do it on the second graphic.

As for the Beta I am using, it is the last beta listed on the beta
page, but I will see if I can track down 3.0.2.10.

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Antispam Bayes Filter Plugin 2.0.1 (Open Source)

2005-01-05 Thread Achim Winkler
Hello,

i released a bugfixed version of the Bayes Filter Plugin to kill some
strange bugs of v2.0.0. I hope you will enjoy it.

- Added: edit button for the regular expression filter
- Added: loading of included regular expression filter lists (see 
B_INCLUDE_LIST feature) 
- Improved: usage of new boost library (v1.31 to v1.32) 
- Improved: usage of new PCRE library (v4.5 to v5.0) 
- Improved: speed of the regular expression filter 
- Bugfix: exception in RegExpFilter::ScoreMail function if the received mail 
has no body 
- Bugfix: exception in TBPtest::TBP_GetSpamScore function if the received mail 
has no body 
- Bugfix: DNS-Blacklist filter was not working 
- Bugfix: memory leak within the regular expression filter 
- Bugfix: many exceptions in different functions if you use more than one 
mailaccount 

Your can download the setup file from my homepage or you can use the
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Happy new year!

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Re: Antispam Bayes Filter Plugin 2.0.1 (Open Source)

2005-01-05 Thread Foster, Graham
Hello Achim
 i released a bugfixed version of the Bayes Filter Plugin to kill some
 strange bugs of v2.0.0. I hope you will enjoy it.
Mmmh - couple of points
a) The version number still reads 2.0.0?
b) the macro to give the version name still doesn't work
.. I'm sure I've just installed it though.
  
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Re[2]: Antispam Bayes Filter Plugin 2.0.1 (Open Source)

2005-01-05 Thread Francis Dhumes
Hello Graham,

FG a) The version number still reads 2.0.0?

On mine, the version number is 2.0.1 after automatuc update (The Bat!
must be closed)
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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread George Mitchell
Marcus Ohlström wrote:

MO Create a parent filter matching all messages and make your common
MO filters subfilters of this catch-all-filter. Make sure Continue
MO processing with other filters is ticked for the parent filter.

Nice idea.  If only common sub-filters worked:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021

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Re: Antispam Bayes Filter Plugin 2.0.1 (Open Source)

2005-01-05 Thread Krzysztof Kudacik
2005-01-05|16:45  you wrote:
 a) The version number still reads 2.0.0?

Not confirmed.

 b) the macro to give the version name still doesn't work

Not confirmed - see footer.

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Re: Problem starting The Bat!

2005-01-05 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:08:21 -0600, Stuart Cuddy wrote:

As for the Beta I am using, it is the last beta listed on the
beta page, but I will see if I can track down 3.0.2.10.

Take a look at:

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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Alexander,

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:01:57 +0100 GMT (05/01/2005, 17:01 +0700 GMT),
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK Wouldn't it be possible to pick the original TO information in a %IF
ASK clause and automagically determine the correct account to use for the
ASK reply?

No, because the address into which the email arrives is often one of
many TO addresses, or in the CC, or even only BCC.

ASK Just an idea.

Thanks for your idea, though.

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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marcus,

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:49:30 +0100 GMT (05/01/2005, 17:49 +0700 GMT),
Marcus Ohlström wrote:

MO Create a parent filter matching all messages and make your common
MO filters subfilters of this catch-all-filter. Make sure Continue
MO processing with other filters is ticked for the parent filter.

I don't understand your idea. What would the parent filter filter on?

If you mean that I should filter on the on the Recipient address, this
won't work, as the account addresses are often not mentioned, for
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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello list,

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:23:11 +0700 GMT (05/01/2005, 08:23 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF I need to be able to reply from the account that the mail was
TF originally sent to, though. Maybe I am think along the wrong track.
TF Does anybody have an idea how I could do what I want?

I think this would work: If the account-level filters were processed
before the common filters, what I need to do could be accomplished.
Would anybody else find this useful, and should I put it in the wish
list as an option?

Another idea is an optional setting in the common filters continue
processing with account filters, so that only those, and not the
other common filters, are processed when a match is found. Any
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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ!

Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 18:03, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
 Another idea is an optional setting in the common filters continue
 processing with account filters, so that only those, and not the
 other common filters, are processed when a match is found. Any
 seconders?

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Re: Antispam Bayes Filter Plugin 2.0.1 (Open Source)

2005-01-05 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Achim,

Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 3:38:38 PM, you wrote:

 Hello,

 i released a bugfixed version of the Bayes Filter Plugin to kill some
 strange bugs of v2.0.0. I hope you will enjoy it.

 Your can download the setup file from my homepage or you can use the
 update function of the plugin.

I dunno if you noticed but I cannot seem to get the macros to work :(

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Re[2]: Antispam Bayes Filter Plugin 2.0.1 (Open Source)

2005-01-05 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Sean,

Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 9:45:08 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Achim,

 Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 3:38:38 PM, you wrote:

 Hello,

 i released a bugfixed version of the Bayes Filter Plugin to kill some
 strange bugs of v2.0.0. I hope you will enjoy it.

 Your can download the setup file from my homepage or you can use the
 update function of the plugin.

 I dunno if you noticed but I cannot seem to get the macros to work :(

 Sean

Fixed my problem :)

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Re: Antispam Bayes Filter Plugin 2.0.1 (Open Source)

2005-01-05 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Sean!

On Wednesday, January 5, 2005 at 10:45:08 PM you wrote:

 I dunno if you noticed but I cannot seem to get the macros to work :(

Do you mean the Update program? I couldn't make it work correctly at
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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 I think this would work: If the account-level filters were processed
 before the common filters, what I need to do could be accomplished.
 Would anybody else find this useful, and should I put it in the wish
 list as an option?

No, please. The problem is that Common filters are still buggy. Otherwise
you could easily do what you wish.

 Another idea is an optional setting in the common filters continue
 processing with account filters, so that only those, and not the
 other common filters, are processed when a match is found. Any
 seconders?

Again no, please.  As soon as the bug(s) described in:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021

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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread George Mitchell
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF If the account-level filters were processed before the common
TF filters, what I need to do could be accomplished. Would anybody
TF else find this useful, and should I put it in the wish list as an
TF option?

It's already there:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3494

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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello George,

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:47:45 -0800 GMT (06/01/2005, 06:47 +0700 GMT),
George Mitchell wrote:

TF If the account-level filters were processed before the common
TF filters, what I need to do could be accomplished. Would anybody
TF else find this useful, and should I put it in the wish list as an
TF option?

GM It's already there:

GM https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3494

Thanks. I added another bugnote. Very disturbing is that it hasn't
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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:11:10 +0100 GMT (06/01/2005, 06:11 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 I think this would work: If the account-level filters were processed
 before the common filters, what I need to do could be accomplished.
 Would anybody else find this useful, and should I put it in the wish
 list as an option?

M No, please. The problem is that Common filters are still buggy. Otherwise
M you could easily do what you wish.

How can I do what I want to do with subfilters in common filters?
Please describe. Keep in mind that once the message has been moved to
the appropriate country folder by the common folder, there is no
indication any more which account it arrived in. Well, in many cases
at least, in other cases there is the address in the TO field, but not
always so that's not reliable.

 Another idea is an optional setting in the common filters continue
 processing with account filters, so that only those, and not the
 other common filters, are processed when a match is found. Any
 seconders?

M Again no, please.  As soon as the bug(s) described in:

M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021

This describes that subfilters in common filters should work. I don't
think this is related to my problem.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

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Wunder, si isch jo d' ganz Nacht dusse gsi.

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Re: Common vs account filters

2005-01-05 Thread George Mitchell
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:11:10 +0100 GMT (06/01/2005, 06:11 +0700
TF GMT), MAU wrote:

M No, please. The problem is that Common filters are still buggy.
M Otherwise you could easily do what you wish.

TF How can I do what I want to do with subfilters in common filters?
TF Please describe.

Marcus Ohlström described the technique pretty clearly in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED].

As I understand the problem, you have a lot of complicated common
filters.  Since the common filters are evaluated before account
filters, you have to specify continue processing other filters for
each common filter in order to get to the account filters.  So, every
message gets evaluated by every common filter, and this overwhelms
TB!.  Correct?

If so, you could prevent this by having a single common filter with
the special matching condition Any message.  It would have continue
processing other filters checked.  All of your current existing
common filters would become sub-filters of this one, and each
sub-filter would have continue processing other filters unchecked.

By definition each incoming message would match the common filter, so
TB! would begin evaluating the sub-filters.  This would continue until
one was matched.  At this point evaluation of all remaining
sub-filters would abort, and since the parent filter allowed
subsequent filters, the account filters would be evaluated.

If only common sub-filters worked.

M Again no, please.  As soon as the bug(s) described in:

M https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4021

TF This describes that subfilters in common filters should work. I don't
TF think this is related to my problem.

This is a bug I think Ritlabs really needs to fix.  Filtering is a
pretty key feature, and a part of it simply doesn't work.  It's not
like this is an elusive bug.

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