Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello MAU, Thanks for taking the time! Not wanting to steal your time, but if you got one spare minute maybe you would like to explain briefly what the different TB virtual folders we can see there are used for and how you set those up to do what you want... OK, here we go. *Reply on TBBeta* Is a VF looking at (and only at)TBBeta real folder for messages with Colour Group 'Reply' (i.e. Filter = Colour is Reply). [...] So I guess you use a keyboard shortcut to color a message? *Watch TBBeta* Once a Watch folder is created to 'look in one or more folder' (TBBeta folder only in my case), you can go to into that folder messages list, select a message, right click on it and, on the context menu, select 'Specials/Watch replies in' and then the name of the Watch folder. Thought so. I have a similar folder here. One thing I always notice is that when I already marked a message to be watched, and I want to mark a second message, the checkmark is already there in the context menu. I have to uncheck it, and then go into the context menu again and re-check it to have the message appear in the watching folder...do you see the same? *To me* This one is a normal VF just looking for messages in TBBeta that are assigned to colour group 'R2me' (replies to me). Thats an interesting concept. Maybe I'll try that some day! And that's basically all. Feel free to ask is something is still unclear. Everything clear...and something learned again! Thanks a lot. -- Martin TB! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
HTML message missing some text
The attached message (created in Evolution) is missing some text in the HTML
version displayed by The Bat - basically, all text between PREBLOCKQUOTE
tags is missing.
--
Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/
No matter which direction you start, it's always against the wind coming back.
-- Andrew's Canoeing Postulate
[The Bat! v3.61.13 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1]
---BeginMessage---
Hello World: The Evolution of a Programmer
High School / Junior High School
10 PRINT HELLO WORLD
20 END
First Year in College
program hello(input, output)
begin
writeln('Hello World');
end
Senior Year in College
(defun hello
(print
(cons 'Hello (list 'World')
)
)
)
New Professional
#include stdio.h
void main(void)
{
char *message[] = { Hello, World };
int i;
for (int i=0; i2; i++)
printf(%s, message[i]);
printf(\n);
}
Seasoned Professional
#include iostream
#include cstring
class String {
private:
int size;
char* ptr;
public:
String() : size(0), ptr(new char('\0')) {}
String(const String s) : size(s.size) {
ptr = new char[size+1];
strcpy(ptr, s.ptr);
}
~String() {
delete [] ptr;
}
friend ostream operator (ostream, const String);
String operator =(const char*);
};
ostream operator (ostream stream, const String s) {
return (stream s.ptr);
}
String
String:: operator =(const char* chrs) {
if (this != chrs) {
delete [] ptr;
size = strlen(chrs);
ptr = new char[size+1];
strcpy(ptr, chrs);
}
return (*this);
}
int main()
{
String str;
str = Hello World;
cout str endl;
return (0);
}
Master Programmer
[
uuid = (2573F8F4-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820)
]
library LHello {
// bring in the master library
importlib(actimport.tlb);
importlib(actexport.tlb);
// bring in my interfaces
#include pshlo.idl
[
uuid (2573F8F5-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820);
]
cotype THello {
interface IHello;
interface IPersistFile;
};
};
[
exe, uuid (2573F890-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820)
]
module CHelloLib {
// Some code related header files
importheader(pshlo.h);
importheader(shlo.hxx);
importheader(mycls.hxx);
// Needed typelibs
importlib(actimp.tlb);
importlib(actexp.tlb);
importlib(thlo.tlb);
[
uuid(2573F891-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820),
aggregatable
]
coclass CHello {
cotype THello;
};
};
#include ipfix.hxx
extern HANDLE hEvent;
class CHello : public CHelloBase {
public:
IPFIX(CLSID_CHello);
CHello(IUnknown *pUnk);
~CHello();
HRESULT __stdcall PrintSz(LPWSTR pwszString);
private:
static int cObjRef;
};
#include thlo.h
#include pshlo.h
#include shlo.hxx
#include mycls.hxx
int CHello:cObjRef = 0;
CHello::CHello(IUnknown *pUnk) : CHelloBase(pUnk) {
cObjRef++;
return;
}
HRESULT __stdcall CHello::PrintSz(LPWSTR pwszString) {
printf(%ws\n, pwszString);
return(ResultFromScode(S_OK));
}
CHello::~CHello(void) {
// when the object count goes to zero, stop the server
cObjRef--;
if( cObjRef == 0 )
PulseEvent(hEvent);
return;
}
#include pshlo.h
#include shlo.hxx
#include mycls.hxx
HANDLE hEvent;
int _cdecl main (
int argc,
char * argv[]
) {
ULONG ulRef;
DWORD dwRegistration;
CHelloCF *pCF = new CHelloCF();
hEvent = CreateEvent(NULL, FALSE, FALSE, NULL);
// Initialize the OLE libraries
CoInitiali, NULL);
// Initialize the OLE libraries
CoInitializeEx(NULL, COINIT_MULTITHREADED);
CoRegisterClassObject(CLSID_CHello, pCF, CLSCTX_LOCAL_SERVER,
REGCLS_MULTIPLEUSE, dwRegistration);
// wait on an event to stop
WaitForSingleObject(hEvent, INFINITE);
// revoke and release the class object
CoRevokeClassObject(dwRegistration);
ulRef = pCF-Release();
// Tell OLE we are going away.
CoUninitialize();
return(0);
}
extern CLSID CLSID_CHello;
extern UUID LIBID_CHelloLib;
CLSID CLSID_CHello = { /* 2573F891-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820 */
0x2573F891,
0xCFEE,
0x101A,
{ 0x9A, 0x9F, 0x00, 0xAA, 0x00, 0x34, 0x28, 0x20 }
};
UUID LIBID_CHelloLib = { /* 2573F890-CFEE-101A-9A9F-00AA00342820 */
0x2573F890,
0xCFEE,
0x101A,
{ 0x9A, 0x9F, 0x00, 0xAA, 0x00, 0x34, 0x28, 0x20 }
};
#include pshlo.h
#include shlo.hxx
#include clsid.h
int _cdecl main (
int argc,
char * argv[]
) {
HRESULT hRslt;
IHello *pHello;
ULONG ulCnt;
IMoniker * pmk;
WCHAR wcsT[_MAX_PATH];
WCHAR wcsPath[2 * _MAX_PATH];
// get object path
wcsPath[0] = '\0';
wcsT[0] = '\0';
if( argc 1) {
mbstowcs(wcsPath, argv[1], strlen(argv[1]) + 1);
wcsupr(wcsPath);
} else {
fprintf(stderr, Object path must be specified\n);
return(1);
}
// get print string
if(argc 2)
mbstowcs(wcsT, argv[2], strlen(argv[2]) + 1);
else
wcscpy(wcsT, LHello World);
printf(Linking to object %ws\n, wcsPath);
printf(Text String %ws\n, wcsT);
// Initialize the OLE libraries
hRslt = CoInitializeEx(NULL,
AV without any apparent reason
Hallo tbbeta, I started TB with the focus on a message that I read several times before without problems, so the error was most likely due to a downloaded message: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 00404C8B in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 00E0. --- OK --- My log was saying: ,- [ ] | 21-10-2005, 11:49:36: FETCH - 6 messages in the mailbox, 6 new | 21-10-2005, 11:49:37: FETCH - Received message from Luann [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 1319 bytes, subject: Mike sent these two nude girls | 21-10-2005, 11:49:37: FETCH - Received message from %s, size: %d bytes, subject: %s | 21-10-2005, 11:49:37: FETCH - Received message from 3 | 21-10-2005, 11:49:37: FETCH - Received message from 4 | 21-10-2005, 11:49:37: FETCH - Received message from 5 | 21-10-2005, 11:49:37: FETCH - Received message from 6 | 21-10-2005, 11:49:37: FETCH - received message from 1 | 21-10-2005, 11:49:38: FILTER - Message from Luann [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subject Mike sent these two nude girls scored 99, qualified as JUNK MAIL | 21-10-2005, 11:49:38: FETCH - received message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1319 bytes), URL: msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | 21-10-2005, 11:49:38: FETCH - received message from 3 | 21-10-2005, 11:49:38: FETCH - received message from 4 | 21-10-2005, 11:49:38: FETCH - received message from 5 | 21-10-2005, 11:49:39: FETCH - received message from 6 `- The second part of the log (with the filters that have been triggered) starts with a different first message (I called it '1') but that message was from the same mailinglist and there was nothing special about it. Neither in the message as stored in TB's message base nor as stored in the archive of my mail server. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] message was caught by BayesIt and that explains the additional 'FILTER' log line. -- Groetjes, Roelof KEYBOARD - An instrument used for entering errors into a computer. The Bat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpQcaIuQYnW6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.61.13 Bug displaying QP characters in headers
Hello , there's really a bug with display of QP in headers. Severals examples: Example 1 === 8 === header (Ctrl+Shift+K) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?The_Bat_-_test_avec_accent_=E9_test_avec_accent?= === 8 === display in header pane Objet: The_Bat_-_test_avec_accent_é test avec accent === 8 === Example 2 === 8 === header (Ctrl+Shift+K) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tenor=2C_commission_s=E9curit=E9=2C_entrez_dans?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_la_ronde_=21=21=21?= === 8 === display in header pane Objet: Tenor, commission sécurité, entrez dans_la_ronde_!!! === 8 === Example 3 === 8 === header (Ctrl+Shift+K) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9cision du Conseil d=92Etat sur le CNE : premi=E8re r=E9action de FO?= === 8 === display in header pane Objet: Décision du Conseil d?Etat sur le CNE : première réaction de FO === 8 === Example 4 === 8 === header (Ctrl+Shift+K) From: V=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=ro G [EMAIL PROTECTED]=== 8 === display in header pane De: éro Gineste [EMAIL PROTECTED] === 8 === The bug is not located in one header type, and is not only located on germans umlaüts ! -- Regards, Francismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP rev 2600 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello Leif, On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, at 10:10:02 [GMT -0600] (which was 12:10:02 PM in NY, USA) Leif Gregory wrote: Hello Michael, Thursday, October 20, 2005, 9:49:40 AM, you wrote: John Doe Users don't even know that TheBat! exists! TheBat! is an email-client for experienced users who search for it and buy a licence being conscious about its functions and features. That would be a very incorrect statement. Mary Bull... Front and center please. Mary came to TB with very little knowledge of how e-mail and the internet worked. I think part of the point Michael was making is that there are many who come to TB for its power user features not it's security features. I am one of those. And even while I understand the security issues, there is still a nagging feeling that the lack of built-in offsite image handling is a limitation. Personally, I wouldn't recommend TB to someone who I felt needed to be protected from all the Internet baddies they didn't understand. If they cannot understand the threats, how can they understand TB? Internet 101 before Internet 102. In the same way, I wouldn't recommend a tank to a new driver for protection. Bad analogy? Tank Owning Teen: Gee Dad, why can't I turn right and left smoothly like all my friends who have regular cars? Security Dad: Don't you worry your pretty little head about all that turning right and left nonsense; those vehicles are for dads who are clueless and care not for their childrens' safety. Tank Owning Teen: This owner's manual is from 1902! Security Dad: Documentation is a security risk. -- Best regards, James Senick The Bat! v.3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Windows XP Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Security Dad: Documentation is a security risk. ROFL -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.61.13 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Why do people pay to go up tall buildings and then put money in binoculars to look at things on the ground? pgpRzL3FyCwrQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello Leif, On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, at 12:13:25 [GMT -0600] (which was 2:13:25 PM in NY, USA) Leif Gregory wrote: Be a part of the solution. 1. When a message comes in that contains outside images it should be checked against a whitelist. snip 2. Do we only accept file references to an actual image and not a page designed to display an image? snip 3. We'd need to tie into the anti-virus snip All these assume that the solution will involve TB deciding what will and what will not be displayed. I think the nice thing about the way TB is now is that I can view the message without risk first, then double-click the attachment afterward. I don't want TB deciding what I can't see anymore than I want OE deciding that I see everything. What about a message pane toggle that is off by default for every message. Once the user confirms that they want to take the risk, the click the toggle. They could also click OK on a warning alert. The resulting message opens in a tab like the TXT, HTML tabs there are now. Moving to another message toggles back to default. A registry hack or ini file edit could exist for those wanting the toggle to default to ON. And they could disable the warning. Usually, the html messages that I need or want are those I have received many times before. Most of them are from me actually. If one were to spoof one of these messages, I would know while viewing it in the default secure mode. -- Best regards, James Senick The Bat! v.3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Windows XP Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hi James, On Friday, October 21, 2005, 3:39:40 PM: What about a message pane toggle that is off by default for every message. Once the user confirms that they want to take the risk, the click the toggle. They could also click OK on a warning alert. The resulting message opens in a tab like the TXT, HTML tabs there are now. Moving to another message toggles back to default. That's the idea we are talking about. At least that's what I want. Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Bücher haben Ehrgefühl. Wenn man sie verleiht, kommen sie nicht mehr zurück. (Theodor Fontane) pgph2CljcrhIn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello rmorris, On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:48:42 -0500 GMT (21/10/2005, 11:48 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rrgc If I wanted outlook,opera,firefox,the Becky,pegaus I would have them rrgc as my sole e-mail client. I want THE BAT! to first and foremost to be rrgc secure=sure you give a little up but the piece of mind that comes with rrgc it is awesome!!! Good, then don't activate the requested feature. It won't hurt you if I do. I like TB for its flexibility, not for its nannying. -- Cheers, Thomas. Stossseufzer eines Malers: Schon wieder eine Woche verstrichen! Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Connection Center visual bug (was: The Bat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) is now available)
Hello BWMarcotte, On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 05:01:03 -0400 GMT (20/10/2005, 16:01 +0700 GMT), BWMarcotte wrote: B With the connection center there is an error where the word bytes B at the end of the individual email download progress bar get cut off B depending on the size of the email. It appears that this field is set B for left justify not right justify. B bugtrack #5203 Confirmed. The full URL is https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5203 -- Cheers, Thomas. Hit any user to continueeSigns Your Co-Worker Is A Hacker: Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
OT: Re[2]: Offsite Images
Hello James, Friday, October 21, 2005, 7:16:06 AM, you wrote: Personally, I wouldn't recommend TB to someone who I felt needed to be protected from all the Internet baddies they didn't understand. If they cannot understand the threats, how can they understand TB? Internet 101 before Internet 102. Really? So you'd advocate the use of Outlook or Outlook Express because it's easy? Wow... In the same way, I wouldn't recommend a tank to a new driver for protection. Bad analogy? I got to shoot at a tank once during M-79 (40mm grenade launcher) qualifications. Nothing like seeing an HE (High Explosive) round go off on the top of a tank. grin http://www.diddybop.demon.co.uk/blooper.htm Tank Owning Teen: Gee Dad, why can't I turn right and left smoothly like all my friends who have regular cars? Turn? You don't turn in a tank. You run everything over! grin Security Dad: Documentation is a security risk. Egads! Security through obscurity is no security at all. -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Society is like a stew. If you don't keep it stirred up,\myou get a lot of scum on top. - Edward Abbey Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Offsite Images
10/21/2005 10:03 AM Hi James, On 10/21/2005 James Senick wrote: JS If 99% of the world JS didn't use crap like OE, perhaps those companies would learn to JS write. How true! People live up to what is expected. Quality improves when the bar is raised...not lowered. I appreciate your input. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.09 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Offsite Images
10/21/2005 10:10 AM Hi James, On 10/21/2005 James Senick wrote: JS What about a message pane toggle that is off by default for JS every message. Once the user confirms that they want to take the JS risk, the click the toggle. They could also click OK on a JS warning alert. The resulting message opens in a tab like the JS TXT, HTML tabs there are now. Moving to another message toggles JS back to default. You can have this feature right now: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/E-mail/E-mail-Clients/Foxmail.shtml -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.09 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Offsite Images
10/21/2005 10:06 AM Hi rmorris, On 10/21/2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rrgc If I wanted outlook,opera,firefox,the Becky,pegaus I would have them rrgc as my sole e-mail client. I want THE BAT! to first and foremost to be rrgc secure=sure you give a little up but the piece of mind that comes with rrgc it is awesome!!! Amen! -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.09 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hi Paul, On Friday, October 21, 2005, 4:14:42 PM: What about the other features of TheBat! ? To show how silly your way of arguing is: You can have this feature right now: Yeah. You can have the feature of a perfect and secure eMailClient. Just like you want it - right out of the 80s. Try pine. you see? Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Wer nicht mehr liebt, und nicht mehr irrt, der lasse sich begraben. (Goehte) PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht! pgp6DCMtb0RCK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F7 - Something thats driving me nuts!
Hello Peter, On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 22:05:29 +0200 GMT (03/10/2005, 03:05 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: PH The F7 - search - window is unclosable in my environment (OTFE IKEY). PH The folder in question contains less than 400 messages. The search PH operations should be finished in a few seconds ... PH To see what I mean I've made a screen video (approximately 400KB, WMV). PH It's located here: http://www.meinemail.net/pics/tb_f7_nuke.wmv Nice video. PH Confirmations? Kind of. The X close-button had no function, everything else worked. The search stopped after two seconds or so after I hit Stop, don't know why it took so long. Maybe the search was finished? No OTFE here. -- Cheers, Thomas. WE LEARN that the Acme ultrasonic dog whistle warns purchasers: This product will be ineffective if your dog is deaf. Well, well, well. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello Paul, http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/E-mail/E-mail-Clients/Foxmail.shtml Interesting to see the bottom of that page (MOST POPULAR DOWNLOADS IN THIS CATEGORY ( E-mail Clients )), where TB is third just behind OE and Thunderbird, both of them freeware :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.13 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello Martin, Thanks for taking the time! You know you now owe me a beer, don't you? ;-) *Reply on TBBeta* Is a VF looking at (and only at)TBBeta real folder for messages with Colour Group 'Reply' (i.e. Filter = Colour is Reply). [...] So I guess you use a keyboard shortcut to color a message? No, I'm quite mouse oriented and use very few keyboard shortcuts. Anyway, in this specific case and some other similar ones I use a Read filter. When I mark a message as Read (which I do manually with Space key) the Read filter is triggered and, if the message is flagged, it is assign to 'Reply' colour group and flag is cleared. *Watch TBBeta* Once a Watch folder is created to 'look in one or more folder' (TBBeta folder only in my case), you can go to into that folder messages list, select a message, right click on it and, on the context menu, select 'Specials/Watch replies in' and then the name of the Watch folder. Thought so. I have a similar folder here. One thing I always notice is that when I already marked a message to be watched, and I want to mark a second message, the checkmark is already there in the context menu. I have to uncheck it, and then go into the context menu again and re-check it to have the message appear in the watching folder...do you see the same? I haven't been using these watch folder much lately, but yes, I know there are some issues with them (there were also in the past). I just haven't taken the time t analyse and log a report in BT. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.13 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Offsite Images
Hello James, Thursday, October 20, 2005, 10:05:50 PM, you wrote: Actually, IIRC, it was only the fear of it making TB insecure that got the feature shot down. I recall the final conclusion being that there was no danger. Not the same case here, however. It was that users had to rely on people like me to ensure that the server wasn't compromised and serving up things that were not rogues or emoticons. While some people on this list would put their trust in me to ensure that my server remained secure, others would not. I think the true issue for the pro side is that they have a use for offsite images being displayed and feel they don't need to be protected by what amounts to annoyances. Imagine if TB simply blocked all attachments from being opened directly...one just has to jump through a few hoops to get screwed. Same here. It does (well, not all). Ever tried to open a .PIF or .SCR or .EXE directly from within TB? You have to save it first, then open it from that location. Just remember that even with proof of security the roguemoticon feature failed to make the cut. There wasn't proof of security. The weak link was my server and if it would serve up automatic downloads that were not roguemoticons or smileys. One last note, after wanting this feature for several years I've found that very few of the images in html email added much to the message content. If they did, I was already on my way to the site anyway. One of the few exceptions to this are those html emails that are all one spliced image. If 99% of the world didn't use crap like OE, perhaps those companies would learn to write. True enough. I can't think of one single HTML e-mail I've received where images actually enhanced the information content. Let me restate that... An HTML e-mail that was properly authored. I get HTML e-mail all the time from my bank, PHP Classes, the CDC etc. The images comprise of their logo, and advertisements. The latter I can do without, especially the webbugs. -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations? Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Re[2]: Offsite Images
Hello Leif, On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, at 08:11:12 [GMT -0600] (which was 10:11:12 AM in NY, USA) Leif Gregory wrote: Friday, October 21, 2005, 7:16:06 AM, you wrote: Personally, I wouldn't recommend TB to someone who I felt needed to be protected from all the Internet baddies they didn't understand. If they cannot understand the threats, how can they understand TB? Internet 101 before Internet 102. Really? So you'd advocate the use of Outlook or Outlook Express because it's easy? Wow... Not at all. I just recommend that people learn a bit about what they're doing. Basically I suggest that people learn basic math before using a calculator. But people listen to marketing first. I only make suggestions when people are ready to listen. That's why I'm broke :) In the same way, I wouldn't recommend a tank to a new driver for protection. Bad analogy? I got to shoot at a tank once during M-79 (40mm grenade launcher) qualifications. Nothing like seeing an HE (High Explosive) round go off on the top of a tank. grin Me too but only with those rounds that went with a poof of purple smoke. The live rounds were a...umm, security risk. :) -- Best regards, James Senick The Bat! v.3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Windows XP Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Offsite Images)
Hello Paul, Friday, October 21, 2005, 8:06:05 AM, you wrote: How true! People live up to what is expected. Quality improves when the bar is raised...not lowered. I appreciate your input. I'm deadhorsing the issue, and the reason I chose Paul for the mod message is because he's on my side so the opposition won't feel like I'm deadhorsing them because I don't want to hear their comments. We'll all just have to agree to disagree and see what RITLabs decides to do with it because regardless of how loudly we each howl, they'll have the final say. This deadhorse applies to the entire Offsite Images threads. We can take it to TBOT though. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Paul. ' This topic has gone way off / too long / too heated and I am forced to pronounce it dead in fairness to the purpose and other members of the list. Please take it off-list or to TBOT. For anyone unfamiliar with Dead Horse policy, DEAD means DEAD. NO REPLIES to the list, only off-list or on TBOT. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org I don't have a solution but I admire the problem. Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.13 Bug displaying QP characters in headers
Hello Francis Dhumes everyone else, on 21-Okt-2005 at 14:12 you (Francis Dhumes) wrote: there's really a bug with display of QP in headers. Severals examples: Summary: Quoted printable subjects decoding bug http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5199 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Prediction is having the ability to prove that you are right when saying that which you really aren't sure of. -- Todd H. Knight Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Offsite Images
10/21/2005 10:47 AM Hi Michael, On 10/21/2005 Michael Schneider wrote: MS you see? I do seeI'm not sure about you... -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.09 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello Paul, On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, at 10:14:42 [GMT -0400] (which was 10:14:42 AM in NY, USA) Paul Van Noord wrote: JS The resulting message opens in a tab like the JS TXT, HTML tabs there are now. Moving to another message toggles JS back to default. You can have this feature right now: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/E-mail/E-mail-Clients/Foxmail.shtml Yes, and I DO have it right now. But I don't like to switch to a semi-useless email client for only a handful of emails. I used to try though--forwarding those I wanted to see to Becky. Nevertheless, this isn't a solution. This is an alternative. -- Best regards, James Senick The Bat! v.3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Windows XP Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Double Sounds
Hello Steven, On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:57:11 -0400 GMT (06/10/2005, 20:57 +0700 GMT), Steven P Valliere wrote: SPV I have 'Play sound when new mail arrives' checked for SPV the account, and the sound file set to a WAV containing SPV two seconds of total silence. SPV I have a few filters set to move a message to a folder, SPV then to play a sound. SPV Strangely, when some of those filters fire, I hear TWO SPV sounds. I see this hasn't been replied to for a while. Maybe that's because others are as confused as I am: Are you hearing the sound of silence *and* another sound? -- Cheers, Thomas. Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hi Paul, Am Friday, October 21, 2005, 4:49:18 PM, schriebst du: I do seeI'm not sure about you... Then you're not sure about yourself. I just used your line of arguments ;) Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Filmgesetz 5: Alle Einkaufstüten enthalten mindestens ein Baguette. PGP oder S/MIME-Verschlüsselung erwünscht! pgpIMj1lsm6qc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Search function broke
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 20-Okt-2005 at 22:41 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: anybody confirm? Sorry, no. I just searched all folders for the string 480 messages from your message, I clicked on select all in the folder options of the search window, and it started searching my folders from the inbox of the first account until it eventually found your message in the tbbeta folder, where I stopped the search manually. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) All words are pegs to hang ideas on. -- Henry Ward Beecher Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello MAU! On Friday, October 21, 2005, 9:33 AM, you wrote: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/E-mail/E-mail-Clients/Foxmail.shtml Interesting to see the bottom of that page (MOST POPULAR DOWNLOADS IN THIS CATEGORY ( E-mail Clients )), where TB is third just behind OE and Thunderbird, both of them freeware :) I did notice that, also! The Bat! is still the e-mail client that I unhesitatingly recommend to friends and relatives, as the very best choice of all. It works for basic e-mail right out of the box; and for coping with its many evolving features, there's TBUDL. And TBBETA. And Me, Mary the Wonder Bat-Woman! ;) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Offsite Images)
Hello Leif, A reminder of what Leif Gregory on TBBETA typed on: Friday, October 21, 2005 at 08:47:55 GMT -0600 I'm deadhorsing the issue, Thank you so much! The terms Paint dry and Grass grow were gradually becoming more appealing. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.61.13 Echo (Beta) on a G5 iMac Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Double Sounds
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 21-Okt-2005 at 16:51 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: Are you hearing the sound of silence *and* another sound? Hu? How would I know if I hear nothing or the sound of silence? :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Between the great things we cannot do, the danger is that we shall do nothing. -- Adolph Monod Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello Sebastian Murawski everyone else, on 20-Okt-2005 at 22:25 you (Sebastian Murawski) wrote: I noticed that Thunderbird has a ice feature that I cannot (but would like to) find in TB: When an HTML email is displayed that contains graphics from EXTERNAL locations (i.e. they were not attached to the email), it shows them with the 'broken image' icon and offers a 'Show Images' button in the message header. http://republika.pl/konrad_sz/tb/files/html350_xmp.txt http://republika.pl/konrad_sz/tb/files/html350_wget.txt Author: Konrad Szkudlarczyk Anyone cares to explain what these filters really do? I don't speak regex. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I liked the opera very much. Everything but the music. -- Benjamin Britten on Stravinsky's The Rakes's Progress Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Offsite Images)
Hello Leif! On Friday, October 21, 2005, 9:47 AM, you wrote: This deadhorse applies to the entire Offsite Images threads. We can take it to TBOT though. I want to apologize. I replied to MAU's comments on this thread before Comcast offered me your message DeadHorsing the discussion. Just wanted you to know that I didn't deliberately ignore your mod message. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello Paul Van Noord everyone else, on 20-Okt-2005 at 20:02 you (Paul Van Noord) wrote: Please do not tamper with one of the significant positives of the TB for the sake of convenience or pleasure. SH FFS, it's a tool! It is /supposed/ to be convenient! At what price I'll file a new wish this afternoon. Links in messages shouldn't be clickable. I really mean it. They could lead to dangerous websites. This is a serious security threat that TB should not support. Furthermore, the message viewer windows and/or panes should be rendered as graphics, so that text like malicious links can't be copied and pasted to other windows. And the TB screen should under no circumstances be anything else but the frontmost application, and in exclusive fullscreen mode, to avoid people typing the URL they see into another window. The user should need to write down the URL by hand onto a piece of paper, so that he must quit TB and only then can start his web browser to type in the URL manually again. Thinking about it, I'll file another wish. TB should not download messages at all. This is the most secure email client ever. No, wait! It shouldn't even START! Thats much better. If you find irony and sarcasm, you may keep it. :-P -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Time is the random wind that blows down the long corridor, slamming all the doors. -- John D. MacDonald Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Offsite Images
10/21/2005 11:17 AM Hi Alexander, It is sad to lose my respect for you, especially in this manner. Someday I hope you are afforded the opportunity to work with many people from different cultures in many parts of the world, especially those whose very life is threatened by the insecurity of email communication yet are in a situation where email is their only viable method of communication as other methods are even more insecure. Take Care, Paul === Original Message Below === Received From: Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Paul Van Noord everyone else, on 20-Okt-2005 at 20:02 you (Paul Van Noord) wrote: Please do not tamper with one of the significant positives of the TB for the sake of convenience or pleasure. SH FFS, it's a tool! It is /supposed/ to be convenient! At what price I'll file a new wish this afternoon. Links in messages shouldn't be clickable. I really mean it. They could lead to dangerous websites. This is a serious security threat that TB should not support. Furthermore, the message viewer windows and/or panes should be rendered as graphics, so that text like malicious links can't be copied and pasted to other windows. And the TB screen should under no circumstances be anything else but the frontmost application, and in exclusive fullscreen mode, to avoid people typing the URL they see into another window. The user should need to write down the URL by hand onto a piece of paper, so that he must quit TB and only then can start his web browser to type in the URL manually again. Thinking about it, I'll file another wish. TB should not download messages at all. This is the most secure email client ever. No, wait! It shouldn't even START! Thats much better. If you find irony and sarcasm, you may keep it. :-P -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Time is the random wind that blows down the long corridor, slamming all the doors. -- John D. MacDonald Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello Leif Gregory everyone else, on 20-Okt-2005 at 22:30 you (Leif Gregory) wrote: A double-click, two quick clicks and you have the ability to see the HTML message in all its blazing glory. There is no way to show an HTML message in all its blazing glory if such a message contains both inline and remote images, this has been discussed on TBUDL and here. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Our political leaders are unenlightened and corrupt, but with rare exceptions, political leaders have always been unenlightened and corrupt. (Tom Robbins, in Jitterbug Perfume) Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.61.13 Bug displaying QP characters in headers
Hello Alexander, Summary: Quoted printable subjects decoding bug http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5199 Not only subjects: I didn't notice the comment of Zygmunt. Sorry for traffic. -- Regards, Francismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP rev 2600 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
TB should not download messages at all. This function is already there; just enable IMAP. This is the most secure email client ever. No, wait! It shouldn't even START! Thats much better. This was a standard feature a while back, they took it out! -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.61.13 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame. pgpWeq0CXws2n.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
It is sad to lose my respect for you, especially in this manner. Someday I hope you are afforded the opportunity to work with many people from different cultures in many parts of the world, especially those whose very life is threatened by the insecurity of email communication yet are in a situation where email is their only viable method of communication as other methods are even more insecure. Fortunately this thread has been DeadHorsed because that kind of comment is /really/ likely to get right up my nose and press my 'raving bloody mad rant' button. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.61.13 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. I don't do drugs. I get the same effect just standing up fast. pgpU84CiFsiGG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: hang on
Maybe because they devoted much development effort to just fixing bugs so it would be 'flawless' and not enough to new and apparently useless features? I think Tony's point is that even with Mulberry's clear sense of direction, a structured and announced development vision and a willingness to interact with the company's customers (which included some sizeable academic institutions) it still couldn't find the volumes it needed to survive. On that basis it's difficult to see how Ritlabs could hope to achieve a dramatically increased market share for TB! -- Regards, Clive Taylor TheBat!:3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Windows XP: Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello Michael Schneider everyone else, on 21-Okt-2005 at 15:45 you (Michael Schneider) wrote: That's the idea we are talking about. At least that's what I want. If thats the case, don't sign the wish for a whitelist. :) The only way an address based whitelist can be made secure is by the use of pgp or smime signatures, like allow remote images from this address if the message has a signature that verifies as valid/ok. Do we need a new wishlist item for a show me a warning and then show me the remote images button, or does it already exist? :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I don't mind going nowhere as long as it's an interesting path. Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello Hendrik Oesterlin everyone else, on 20-Okt-2005 at 23:22 you (Hendrik Oesterlin) wrote: The one who needs remote images displayed can just click on the html attachement and the images are loaded by an application specialised in managing this. For the n-th time: NO! You can view an HTML message ONLY correctly in an external viewer if they do not contain inline images at the same time! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) It is far harder to kill a phantom that to kill a reality. -- Virginia Woolf Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello Paul Van Noord everyone else, on 21-Okt-2005 at 17:21 you (Paul Van Noord) wrote: It is sad to lose my respect for you, especially in this manner. Dito. Someday I hope you are afforded the opportunity to work with many people from different cultures in many parts of the world, especially those whose very life is threatened by the insecurity of email communication yet are in a situation where email is their only viable method of communication as other methods are even more insecure. Especially on mondays. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The effort to reconcile science and religion is almost always made, not by theologians, but by scientists unable to shake off altogether the piety absorbed with their mother's milk. -- H. L. Mencken Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello Leif Gregory everyone else, on 21-Okt-2005 at 16:43 you (Leif Gregory) wrote: There wasn't proof of security. The weak link was my server and if it would serve up automatic downloads that were not roguemoticons or smileys. Any PGP key server could be compromised to download malware instead of keys, yet TB features a verify key button that could lead you into downloading foreign content to your machine. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I suspect that most of us get old without growing up, and that inside every adult (sometimes not very far inside) is a bratty kid who wants everything his own way. (Bill Watterson) Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Offsite Images)
Hello Alexander, Friday, October 21, 2005, 10:12:30 AM, you wrote: Dito. Again, this thread has already been deadhorsed. Take it offline or to TBOT where a thread has already started under the same subject line. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Alexander. ' This topic has gone way off / too long / too heated and I am forced to pronounce it dead in fairness to the purpose and other members of the list. Please take it off-list or to TBOT. For anyone unfamiliar with Dead Horse policy, DEAD means DEAD. NO REPLIES to the list, only off-list or on TBOT. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org EMBARASSMENT: Spitting out the car window when it isn't open. Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: If thats the case, don't sign the wish for a whitelist. :) Ah, that's splittings hairs :-D Any possibility to view remote images if I want to would be a step forward. Clicking on a button for each message or draging the sender on a whitelist... Michael - -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D Glück ist ein Stuhl, der plötzlich dasteht, wenn man sich zwischen zwei andere setzen will. (George Bernard Shaw) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDWRd0wSeWjeWf1Q0RAp3zAJ9occ8/kw2Ae48Mmy0UAR1s5U/tfQCfRLwf ej15/aHE+p9Ry64JioSYd4U= =fK76 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: HTML message missing some text
Hello Jernej Simoncic everyone else, on 21-Okt-2005 at 12:15 you (Jernej Simoncic) wrote: The attached message (created in Evolution) is missing some text in the HTML version displayed by The Bat - basically, all text between PREBLOCKQUOTE tags is missing. I think this should be forwarded directly to the HTML guru in the Ritlabs team, IIRC its Vitalie Vrabie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) And there's a dreadful law here - it was made by mistake, but there it is - that if anyone asks for machinery, they have to have it and keep on using it. -- E. Nesbit Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: Offsite Images)
Hello Leif Gregory everyone else, on 21-Okt-2005 at 18:27 you (Leif Gregory) wrote: Dito. Again, this thread has already been deadhorsed. Take it offline or to TBOT where a thread has already started under the same subject line. Please allow a little grace period between modding and re-modding. I saw your MOD message too late. Besides that, I'm not on TBOT. Sorry. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The struggle for knowledge has a pleasure in it like that of wrestling with a fine woman. -- Lord Halifax Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hi All, The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#0005205) A crash when replying to HTML mail [-] (#0005207) wrong characters in some dialogs and menus [-] (#0005206) Abstract error on change of view mode [-] (#0003862) subject with \ at the start could be displayed wrong -- 9Val Current beta is 3.61.13 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Friday evening, Alexander wrote something like this: Author: Konrad Szkudlarczyk Anyone cares to explain what these filters really do? I don't speak regex. :) I think that you speak German so try to read this: http://www.batboard.net/index.php?showtopic=4974 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello 9Val, 9 [-] (#0003862) subject with \ at the start could be displayed wrong Seems to fix the http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5199 bug. All headers with QP displays correctly here. -- Regards, Francismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v.3.61.14 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello 9Val! On Friday, October 21, 2005, 12:19 PM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Up and running well. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hi 9Val, The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available from: Headerfields with umlauts are still crippled. see attached picture Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Liebst du etwas - lasse es los. Kehrt es zurück, ist es dein. Bleibt es fort, hat es dir nie gehört. (unbekannt) cap.bmp Description: Windows bitmap pgprKGu7IH3DK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello again, 9 [-] (#0003862) subject with \ at the start could be displayed wrong FD Seems to fix the http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5199 bug. FD All headers with QP displays correctly here. Precision: seems only. Fixed *only* in subject and only for sujects on *one* line. Example: === 8 === header Subject: Re: [Federation Jumeaux Et Plus] local + chgt de pr =?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=sidente du 49 === 8 === Subject display Sujet: ésidente du 49? === 8 === with v.3.61.14 -- Regards, Francismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v.3.61.14 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello Michael, MS Headerfields with umlauts are still crippled. MS see attached picture If you look at the headers (Ctrl+Shift+K), do you notice that the subject is splitted on two lines ? The sample of umlaüts send to this list displays correctly here, but subject is on one line only. -- Regards, Francismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v.3.61.14 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hi Francis, On October 21, 2005, 8:27:10 PM: If you look at the headers (Ctrl+Shift+K), do you notice that the subject is splitted on two lines ? The sample of umlaüts send to this list displays correctly here, but subject is on one line only. No, in my example there was only one letter in front of the ü. The header-entry is: Subject: B=?iso-8859-1?B?/A==?=cher zum Verkauf And I'm still wondering where this character, TheBat! shows after the subject, comes from. regards, Michael -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D TheBat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) - Windows XP (Service Pack 2 Build 2600) Filmgesetz 56: In Horrorfilmen finden halbnackte Zerstückelungsopfer nie den sicheren Weg in die Freiheit, sondern immer das einzige Zimmer, aus dem es keinen Ausweg gibt. pgpZZjATNRmfz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello Michael, Subject: B=?iso-8859-1?B?/A==?=cher zum Verkauf And I'm still wondering where this character, TheBat! shows after the subject, comes from. Incorrect decoding. The /A== represents 3 byte using ASCII characters. That extra square is a non-displayable character, ascii code 0-31 or above 127. (If you check the net for MIME encoding, you can decode what /A means. = is used for signaling end of encoding.) -- Vili Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Offsite Images
Alexander S. Kunz wrote on 22/10/2005 at 03:08:40 +1100 subject Offsite Images : Hello Hendrik Oesterlin everyone else, on 20-Okt-2005 at 23:22 you (Hendrik Oesterlin) wrote: The one who needs remote images displayed can just click on the html attachement and the images are loaded by an application specialised in managing this. For the n-th time: NO! You can view an HTML message ONLY correctly in an external viewer if they do not contain inline images at the same time! I have explained this already in the Bugtracker http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1780 : Or for displaing both embedded and external images maybe a one-boutton-feature will be useful to export a message to mht-format (same content as eml but other extension) and open it in IExplorer. As discussed in Beta-list around mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oct.2004 There is really no need to code a new way to display messages with external images. -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber-IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 215599852 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YIM moimeme666fr - AIM moimeme666fr TheBat! 3.60.07 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 on Windows 2000 ___ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.13 Echo (Beta) is now available
Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VV if it's reproducible, please file up a bt issue and attach the VV example. Done; https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5205 See also https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5195 5205 seems to be the result of an attempted fix for 5195 maybe ? -- Mike Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: help file
Hello Peter, On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:12:06 +0200 GMT (12/10/2005, 00:12 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: MM Please also send the file to Michal Kosinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] PM Folder template? Or a new bug? ;-) Judging from the subject line, a rather exciting new development. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Here, Outlook Express, run this program. Okay, stranger. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Search function broke
Hello Alexander, On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:55:18 +0200 GMT (21/10/2005, 21:55 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: anybody confirm? ASK Sorry, no. I just searched all folders for the string 480 messages from ASK your message, I clicked on select all in the folder options of the search ASK window, and it started searching my folders from the inbox of the first ASK account until it eventually found your message in the tbbeta folder, where ASK I stopped the search manually. I'll install a later beta and try again. Just downloaded .16. -- Cheers, Thomas. What to not say to the nice policeman: Hey, can you give me another one of those full body cavity searches? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Can *anyone* explain tabs?
Hello Gene, On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you have defined colour group named Other? All, Unread and Virtual are default and self-explained tab names, but other tabs have names of respective colour groups. If you coloured any folder then the tab of colour group name appears. Assign this folder to colour group none and this tab will disappear. GK Thanks a million times... that was the case. And I'll add my thanks too because the generic group I mentioned earlier contained only four folders which, when reassigned to none as a Colour Group, meant that the tab was automatically removed and I now have left just the three default tabs. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0.543.5722 (431) and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Search function broke
Hello Thomas, On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:41:09 +0700 GMT (22/10/2005, 06:41 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF I'll install a later beta and try again. Just downloaded .16. OK, I lied: I downloaded .14 not .16. And I cannot reproduce the problem any more, so it seems to have been fixed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Gluehlampen brennen heller, wenn man sie vor dem Einschrauben aus der Verpackung nimmt. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F7 - Something thats driving me nuts!
Hello Peter, On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:01:50 +0200 GMT (21/10/2005, 23:01 +0700 GMT), Peter Hampf wrote: PH Since you are the first one who replied after 19 days, I guess that either PH nearly nobody is using the search function or we are the only ones with PH problems ... . The X-close button doesn't work while search is under way, but the Stop button works fine now. I think they have fixed it. -- Cheers, Thomas. 10. A computer program will always do what you tell it to do, but rarely what you want it to do. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Umlauts in headers (was: The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) is now available)
Hello Francis, On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:27:10 +0200 GMT (22/10/2005, 01:27 +0700 GMT), Francis Dhumes wrote: FD If you look at the headers (Ctrl+Shift+K), do you notice that the FD subject is splitted on two lines ? The sample of umlaüts send to this FD list displays correctly here, but subject is on one line only. I just got this one: shft-ctrl-K: Subject: TOP7 - Dinge, die im siebten Jahr =?ISO-8859-1?Q?h=E4tten_schi?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ef_gehen_k=F6nnen?= Yes, two lines. What I see in the header pane is: hätten schief gehen können This is an improvement over beta .12, because that one replaced the blanks with underscores. However, the first part of the subject is missing, half of the first line. -- Cheers, Thomas. What to not say to the nice policeman: Hey, can you give me another one of those full body cavity searches? Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Old flicker problem back (was: Header problem, v3.60.05)
Hello Vili, On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:16:51 +0200 GMT (28/08/2005, 22:16 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: It's a fraction of a second, I always only saw flickering (since 3.60.02). Now that you say the picture appears twice for a little moment and if I really concentrate, I confirm this is the case here too, and that is what my eyes perceive as flickering. V Anyone confirms? Confirmed. V Thx. It was gone for a while, but the problem is back over here. I think it restarted with 3.61.12. -- Cheers, Thomas. My old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, You're next! They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.61.14 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.14 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
